I am gonna shout, cos some people are deaf, dumb and BLIND and STUPID and most of em work for YOU.

Here is a simple reason and example why we have to borrow another 40 billion and HIDE it from the Public ...ie TAXPAYERS....... cos they are gonna pay for it.

Take Rodders...as just one example.

Remember this is without PAY,PENSIONS, PERKS,WASTAGE.

One trip overseas.......25K X2 =50K.

Using the MORTGAGE CALCULATOR on this site...

At 7% interest, conservative maybe...who knows..anymore..

(I paid 17% for mine when I had one...maybe you will again....)....read on...

for 25 Years....Because this may never get paid back in RODDERS lifetime...the calculation to borrow this money is

50K x 25 years, at 7% interest = total repayment of $106,017 for that one 50K trip.

YES......$106017.00

It is like a MORTGAGE, with NO BENEFITS.

This was for one trip. NO real BENEFIT and only for RODDERS to take his GIRLFRIEND too cos it is HIS right. (YEAH RIGHT).

Now calculate the TAX TAKE to pay for this LARGESSE, cos it is all at the TAXPAYERS expense, not RODDERS....repeat.......NOT RODDERS.

At the average wage, being very generous, it would take something like 5-6 peoples taxes for one whole year to pay for just this one trip under PAYE.

Due to the COMPOUNDING effect of borrowing and NOT repaying, guess what.

Ya keep paying.

This is a simplistic example, not in any way accurate, just off the top of my PEA BRAIN.

MULTIPLY this example with all the SNOUTS IN THE TROUGH (and they are legion),

We all know who they are, especially if you PAY TAXES, not steal them.

Most of these people are SUPPOSED to be working for US.

IT is the other way around....SUCKERS.

JOHN, reign in the PONIES and yourself, cos I do not intend to PONY up any more.

And in PLAIN ENGLISH too.

It was HELL-EN here...why make it worse.

FISCAL PRUDENCE...my left ...BOLLARDS.

That is why we have problems here in Sunny.... NZ.

Comments please. and not on the strict accuracy of my calculation. It is only a simplistic example.