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Here are my top 10 links from around the Internet at 10am. I welcome your additions and suggestions in the comments below. My apologies for the delay today. The South Canterbury prospectus proved too juicy to ignore. We don't check our spam folders... Dilbert.com 1. Diplock headlock - Fran O'Sullivan delivers a justified bollocking to Securities Commission chairwoman Jane Diplock in her NZ Herald column. She also takes a swipe at the transparency of South Canterbury, which released a statement last night about its new prospectus, but didn't release the prospectus itself immediately.

Much of the public questioning over the complex arrangements behind chairman Allan Hubbard's web of inter-linking companies has come from media in recent months. It was instructive that the press release announcing the move came well before a copy of the prospectus with all the underlying details was put on the website at 6pm yesterday. (SCF's minders are dab hands at exploiting tight media deadlines). Despite the biggest financial bust in two decades which wiped squillions off the value of shareholders' investments worldwide and exposed a lot of shonky practices, Diplock's commission seems to be focused on using its "surveillance cycle" exercises to educate companies about the greater compliance standards they now have to meet under (NZ) International Financial Reporting Standards instead of publicly throwing the book at delinquents. It is a fat lot of good requiring the companies to lift their game next time round. At the very least Diplock should name the companies so that investors can make their own judgments and require the affected companies to reissue any defective statements. The problem is when Diplock first crossed the Tasman to take up her role as the commission's first executive chairperson she was scathing over the "old boys club" that presided over the NZ market. Six years on, she has become part of the club herself: "Duchessed" as they would say in Australia. Many who took part in the recent stakeholder audit of the commission recommended Diplock should kick herself upstairs and bring in a chief executive to run the shop. But that's yet to happen.

2. Vasectomy time - This video from Young and Rubicam Chief Insights Officer John Gerzema at the often excellent TED (Technology Entertainment Design) conference is worth watching. It's 16 minutes long, but Gerzema's insight into the change in US consumption patterns is useful. He talks about a move to 'mindful rather than mindless' consumption as consumers try to become more liquid and deleverage. That comment actually generated applause. His best factoid is that vasectomies have risen 48% in America in the last year. He also talks about the rise of alternative currencies, 'cow pooling', 'carrot mobs' and 'momversations'.

3. 'Break up the banks' -  Bank of England governor Mervyn King apparently wants to break up the 'Too Big to Fail' banks, FTAlphaville reports.

"Never in the field of financial endeavour has so much money been owed by so few to so many. And, one might add, so far with little real reform." That's Bank of England governor Mervyn King, speaking in Edinburgh on Tuesday night. Apparently, we should all stop deluding ourselves that tougher regulation alone might avoid future crises. If something is too big to fail, then it should be reduced in size. "It is hard to see how the existence of institutions that are "too important to fail" is consistent with their being in the private sector. Encouraging banks to take risks that result in large dividend and remuneration payouts when things go well, and losses for taxpayers when they don't, distorts the allocation of resources and management of risk," King said. He's cooled on the "˜living will' idea, which he now believes would require too much regulatory interference. Instead, the governor favours the simple, radical approach of removing the utility aspects of banking from the casino bits.

4. Fun Fieldday - A judge at the Hamilton District court has ordered a dairy farmer convicted of releasing too much effluent to pay a fine and to hold a series of field days for fellow farmers to talk about his failures, Environment Waikato said in this release on Infonews.co.nz HT Peter Hodge via twitter. I'd love to see Allan Crafar do a few Field Days. Entertaining at the very least.

Offending on one occasion involved the highest level of faecal coliforms in effluent that the judge had ever heard off, while another offence involved "the very highest end of carelessness". Judge Smith said the offending would have had a significant effect on water quality in the area in a number of instances. However, Judge Smith accepted most of the offending was the result of inadequate systems rather than deliberate acts. He set the starting point for an appropriate fine as $60,000, but taking into account a range of factors, including Watson's genuine remorse and financially strained circumstances, the judge ordered that Watson attend up to six farmer field days to speak of his experiences in the hope of deterring others from offending, publish a quarter page apology in the Waitomo News, pay a fine of $3000, plus court costs and a solicitor's fee.

5. Funding gap - Zero Hedge has picked up on a very detailed Bank of International Settlements paper about what the US Federal Reserve did in the wake of the Lehman collapse. Essentially, the US Federal Reserve bailed out the rest of the world's central banks by creating up to US$582 billion of dollar swaps, including a small portion to New Zealand. Apparently, the BIS paper shows that there is a US$6 trillion plus funding gap that is as bad now as before the crisis. It could go bang at any minute. HT Andy Blood via Twitter and Andrew Wilson via email.

Here comes the first estimate ever attempted at quantifying the Fed sponsored "Dollar Destructive" moral hazard: the upper bound of the total loss in the case of a major liquidity event occurring with the Fed's complicit bailout on the table would amount to a staggering $6.5 trillion from a dollar duration funding mismatch alone! This is an astounding, unfathomable and untenable number. Yet it is likely the same now as it was at the onset of the Lehman crisis. In a nutshell what happened is that short-term sources to sustain the massive dollar funding mismatch disappeared virtually overnight, and central banks were suddenly facing a toxic spiral of selling increasingly more worthless assets merely to satisfy currency funding needs in an environment where all of a sudden nobody was willing to provide FX swap lines. So what happens next... The Fed Bails Out The World No, that is not an overstatement: had the Fed not stepped in, the rest of the world (which optimistic pundits tend to forget exists in their bubble view of the US market as the one and only) would have simply collapsed as the $6.5 trillion dollar funding gap closed in on itself, causing a indiscriminate selling off of all dollar denominated assets. The implosion of the basis trade would have seemed like a picnic compared to what was about to ensue had the Fed not stepped in to perpetuate the Fiat banking way of life. Why is this critical? We are now back at a time when the only gains in the stock market are at the expense of dollar destruction, with a concomittant funding for dollar denominated assets. In one short year since the collapse of Lehman we have gone back to the same dollar funding risk exposure as was on the books in these days before Dick Fuld's empire unravelled. While whether or not the Federal Reserve stepped beyond its bounds in practically bailing out not just Goldman Sachs, but as this paper has proven, virtually the entire world, is not up to us to decide. However, a critical topic is: have we learned anything from the implications of an unprecedented dollar funding gap, which is likely back to record levels once again? What is obvious is that the Fed's current policy of a weak dollar, contrary to its repeated lies otherwise, is simply enhancing the dollar funding moral hazard: and the breaking point will come sooner or later with disastrous consequences. As the H.4.1 discloses weekly, the Fed's liquidity swaps are now back to almost zero. This means that foreign Central Banks believe they have the FX swap and dollar maturity situation under control. They thought the same before Lehman blew up. And they were wrong. As the DXY continues tumbling ever lower to fresh 2009 lows, the trade de jour is once again the dollar funding one, although unlike before when the Yen was the carry currency of choice, this time it is the dollar itself, positioning banks for the double whammy of not just a dollar funding shock, but one coupled with a potential massive and historic short squeeze. If and when an exogenous event occurs, not even $6.5 trillion in Fed swap lines will be sufficient to bail out the world economy. It is time someone in Congress asks the Chairman all the pertinent questions that evolve from this analysis and how he is prepared to handle its next, much more vicious, and likely terminal, iteration.

6. The big tradeoff - Matt Nolan at TVHE looks at the comments from Bill English about efficiency vs equity in any decision about increasing the GST. He highlights the tradeoffs nicely.

It will be interesting to see exactly what trade-off the government, and society as a whole, is willing to agree upon.

Spoken like a true economist. 7. Growing outrage - Even the raging righties of the world are getting grumpy about the bonuses about to be showered on the bankers of New York and London. London Mayor Boris Johnson unleashes a salvo in The Torygraph.

Most of the MPs I know seem to be in a state of nervous collapse. Some of them are on suicide watch. Some of them face the task of sacking their wives and selling the house, or possibly the other way round. Some face penury. Never has Parliament been subjected to such protracted humiliation at the hands of the people. Then look at the bankers, the bankers whose high-rolling risk-taking triggered the recession that has so exacerbated public rage at MPs. The bankers seem to be waltzing off with a song on their lips and their hands in their pockets "“ at least, their hands would be in their pockets if they were not stuffed with money. And when I say stuffed, I mean bulging, bursting, ballooning with the biggest bonuses you ever saw. London estate agents say they cannot believe the wheelbarrows of dosh that are suddenly crashing through their doors. Savills says the number of buyers from the financial services sector has risen by 48 per cent in the third quarter of this year, purely in the expectation of yet another ginormous Christmas bonus. A knuckle-cracking realtor in Knight Frank's Kensington office says he has never seen anything like it: email after email from the boys and girls at Goldman Sachs. "We did our first Goldman's deal in June," he tells the FT, "and we are now doing five times as many for its employees as for any other bank." George Osborne dropped the hint of a windfall tax in his conference speech. Now, Labour is said to be planning some act of confiscation. How can any politician be expected to oppose such measures, when the banks refuse to learn? If they act now, if they show they understand, if they direct those bonuses now to the good of society, they may be able to avert their comeuppance in the form of tax or regulation. And it is absolutely no use their complaining that they are all paying a price for the bad behaviour of a few: believe me, that is exactly what the MPs think. There may be time to avert a windfall tax, but time is fast running out.

8. We're rich and poor - The problem is New Zealand has an enormous gap between rich and poor. This piece in BusinessWeek from Bruce Einhorn points out that the UN Development Programme has worked out that New Zealand is the 6th most unequal developed economy in the world. Our inquality has increased the most in the world in the last 20 years. Britain is number 7 and Australia is number 9. I wonder whether a large part of this is that over the last decade the richest New Zealanders have avoided paying tax and have benefited most from the property boom. HT Andrew Wilson via email

No. 6 New Zealand Gini score: 36.2 GDP 2007 (US$ billions): 135.7 Share of income or expenditure (%) Poorest 10%: 2.2 Richest 10%: 27.8 Ratio of income or expenditure, share of top 10% to lowest 10%: 12.5 According to the OECD, New Zealand had the biggest rise in inequality among member nations in the two decades starting in the mid-1980s. The country's economy emerged from recession in the second quarter, but with growth of just 0.1%, the central bank is likely to keep interest rates low until well into 2010.

9. Turd in the punchbowl -  Mish over at Global Economic Analysis carries a useful summary of the shellacking that Ben Bernanke got in Congress. It seems that Bernanke has forgotten how he threatened to get rid of Bank of America's management. Also, it seems, then Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson (a former Goldman CEO) described Bank of America the 'turd in the punchbowl'. Eeyeeww. HT Andrew Wilson.

When it comes to memory loss, there is virtually no chance that Bernanke could have forgotten a conversation with Fed Governor Lacker in which Bernanke planned to tell Bank of America that "management is gone". That is not the kind of conversation that anyone forgets, except on purpose. With that in mind "Elective Memory Loss" is a more fitting term.

10. 50 different kinds of stupid - Eric Crampton at Offsetting Behaviour has a rip-roaring look at how our government is subsidising the Rugby World Cup. He does not agree with the approach. Neither do I. Why should taxpayers subsidise the first class travel and gin swilling of a bunch of old dodderers at the International Rugby Board?

As is usual when countries have to bid for events, we promised all kinds of inefficient investments in stadiums from Dunedin to Auckland. These investments neverever ever pay off. They're always a massive waste. The economic literature is overwhelming. Folks here will say "Oh, but here it'll be different". They're wrong. The stadium investments will not pay off. Most of this funding comes from local councils (we're expanding the stadium here in Christchurch), but the national government is kicking in some money for some of the stadiums as well. So I'm paying for Rugby through income tax contributions to stadium development. But it doesn't end there. Read on and weep. Two weeks ago, it emerged that the government-owned and heavily subsidized Maori Television station had put forward the largest bid for Rugby World Cup broadcasting rights. Somewhere around three million dollars. So I was to be paying for rugby at stadiums where I wouldn't attend games and for television broadcasts I wouldn't be watching. But at least it was going to be on a station I don't currently get, so it wouldn't be displacing any shows that I do watch. Then last week the government encouraged a bidding war for broadcasting rights between the different state owned broadcasters where they'd each get a big government subsidy to bid against each other. This is fifty different kinds of stupid.

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As I have harped on

As I have harped on many times , Labour obfuscate the fact that their policies hurt the poor and the working class , the very group they claim to exist for . The disparity between rich and the poor got even wider under their 9 year spendfest . And Australia , under Tory John Howard , remained a more egalitarian society than us .......... Time to admit that you were wrong , Michael ,........... Helen ,.......hmmmm ?

You did read the article

You did read the article Roger Thompson? Australia is not very far in front. At all.

in regard to #8

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n20/runc01_.html

"among rich countries, the more unequal ones do worse according to almost every quality of life indicator you can imagine. They do worse even if they are richer overall, so that per capita GDP turns out to be much less significant for general wellbeing than the size of the gap between the richest and poorest 20 per cent of the population"

How long before the EU

How long before the EU does something to stem the USD decline? tarriffs anyone?

"The euro at $1.50 is a disaster for the European economy and industry"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/638977...

The problem with per-capita splits

The problem with per-capita splits is that the bigger the gap, the bigger the crime rate. If you don't have what you are told (via advertising) you want, and can't earn it, then you either nick it, or trash it.
Which is why '3 strikes and you're out' is Act policy .

It's going to get a lot worse all around, but I'm not sure that won't actually reduce the split (the rich will get proportionately harder hit).

A good primer is 'The Long Emergency'.

Could we offer Boris Johnson

Could we offer Boris Johnson the mayoralty of Auckland? At least he has some wit... and he can go cycling with John Key on the new cycleway

We could swap Banks for Boris.

Roger Thompson: "The disparity between

Roger Thompson: "The disparity between rich and the poor got even wider under their (Labour's) 9 year spendfest "

Got any proof for that Rog?

The income gap is most

The income gap is most pernicious when the costs of living are high. I would like to see that study as well. (eg NZ)

For many, it is nice to see people get rich--as long as they get that way honestly through luck or hard work. The data can always be misleading due to the asymmetry of income. The real question is how bad is it to be poor?

looks like the gini started

looks like the gini started dropping half way through labours reign. I assume it would trail policy by a fair amount. note this is a 20% measure rather the 10% measure used in the article

http://www.socialreport.msd.govt.nz/economic-standard-living/income-ineq...

Don't hold your breath Trev,

Don't hold your breath Trev, the High Comm's job in London fall vacant soon and who knows what nutty ideas are being discussed in the giant cowpat.

"Alan Bollard said a strong

"Alan Bollard said a strong currency isn't an impediment to raising interest rates, suggesting he may be moving closer to increasing borrowing costs" Bloomberg

Re: # 8 The fact

Re: # 8
The fact that so many NZers are on Govt Benefits of some sort is a major factor in the disparity between rich and poor. Being on a benefit effectively freezes your income at that level, while others get richer, promoted, pay increases etc, those on benefits, while getting cost of living increases are effectively stagnant.
So many people in NZ think the govt owes them a living. It is a bit obscene really.
Surely is a drain on the country.

They aint on no benefit

They aint on no benefit RR...they is just getting a wad of money from them fools overseas what Bill English dun gone borrowed it orf. Why, we have us a powerhouse economy RR...an all this new immigrunts are rushing in to join the game of cashing in on the taxfree capital gains in the great property merry go round. Old Mr market, he don't even know where Noddyland is at. You get yourself down to the bank RR and borrow yourself a mighty bundle of loot...and join in the fun.

I would like to think

I would like to think Mervyn King gets his way -- break up the big banks. But I won't be holding my breath. Bank lobbyists must be making a fortune on both sides of the Atlantic

6: "........ get taxed at

6: "........ get taxed at over 90% on any additional income they earn "“ providing a strong disincentive for these people to work additional hours, or do anything to earn additional income."

The assumption is [many] ppl want more income but are prepared to sacrifice their free hours for money....personally I came to NZ for a quality of life. I chose my job based on a life/work balance...I could have stayed in the UK and earned more and worked longer hours, or work for a company in NZ that offers and pays overtime. I dont because I want a life....I want to see my kids in the evening and weekends ie this statement is overly simplistic and not true for many ppl I think ...and therefore in-accurate IMHO.

regards

@RT: total cwap(TM) you cant

@RT: total cwap(TM) you cant take this in that context. Could be that our tax is less progressive than OZ, ergo we need a more progressive tax system. Lets get a say 50% tax over say $150k to start with...clamp down on tax avoidance....dump trusts...

regards

But Beware... A house near

But Beware...

A house near me has been re-vamped 10 times in the years I have lived nearby.

Each time by a quick flick and roller. (Where was the TAXMAN then??.)

One guy went on to BANKRUPT himself, building a MCMANSION with real dough.

And that was in the BOOM times, not BOOMED & BUST...... its gone times.

It may be back.

Ask SCWARTENAGAR...N ...CALIFORNIFICATION..

Pt 8 It must be

Pt 8

It must be the immigrants fault as they're willing to work for a pittance, therefore distorting 'our' wealth. Probably ....

Thx, andrewj. Useful, but distrurbing,

Thx, andrewj. Useful, but distrurbing, articles as always. Maybe this is what Troy was on about yesterday, with his " earthquake is coming - probably as soon as today" post?

It's like watching a massive

It's like watching a massive car crash in very slow motion. Excruciatingly painful.

AndrewJ - Thanks for the

AndrewJ - Thanks for the great links to the articles, very useful and shocking too. It's becoming clearer.
Let's hope that more would be able to read, including our policy makers. Looks like the U turn is nearing each day and could be severe.

It looks like the real

It looks like the real problem is the Asian powerhouses keeping their currencies artificially low. The flow on effects are affecting us all in the west,while keeping inflation down they are making us all uncompetitive to varying degrees .

Hi AndrewJ - For that,

Hi AndrewJ - For that, we could only counter-act and perhaps follow the US strategy. To achieve the balancing act, we have to also seek to devalue our currency and not to lose out on competitiveness. It could be done but I shall leave it to the monetary policy makers.

Hi AndrewJ - Infact, there

Hi AndrewJ - Infact, there are many good ideas in this website which I thought some could be able to counter our currency appreciation. But, it really depends on the policy makers if they are willing to look into the ideas evolve in this blogs. We have no choice but just to share thoughts here and there. Let's hope that they are listening.

4. unbelieveable, hard to believe

4. unbelieveable, hard to believe the judiciary here are so prepared to make excuses. Can the "highest level of carelessness" in terms of effluent management not be a deliberate act? A dairy farmer who doesn't know how to properly dispose of effluent is like a watchmaker who doesn't know how to tell the time. Or am I missing something?

The Aussie $ is going

The Aussie $ is going to drag us into the mire.

Oct. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Australia's central bank signaled it's prepared to keep raising borrowing costs and tolerate further appreciation in the nation's currency to help restrain consumer prices as economic growth strengthens.

A "very expansionary setting of policy was no longer necessary, and possibly imprudent," officials said in minutes of an Oct. 6 meeting, released yesterday in Sydney. Gains in the nation's dollar, the best-performing this month of the 16 most- traded currencies, "may help contain inflation," they said.

The minutes drove Australia's currency above 93 U.S. cents yesterday, the highest level in 14 months, as investors bet Reserve Bank Governor Glenn Stevens will boost the overnight cash rate target next month. Stevens unexpectedly raised the benchmark a quarter point to 3.25 percent this month, becoming the first Group of 20 central banker to increase borrowing costs.
Philip Lowe, assistant governor at the Reserve Bank, said in Sydney this week the nation's currency has gained because Australia has "a high return of capital with a lot of investment."

"We will have a higher average exchange rate than we've had over the past couple of decades," Lowe said on Oct. 19.

Australia's currency has averaged 72 U.S. cents since being floated in December 1983, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. It has surged 53 percent since hitting a five-year low on Oct. 27 last year.

Stevens said last week that experience "counsels against" an approach where policy makers who cut rates rapidly in response to a threat become "too timid to lessen that stimulus in a timely way when the threat has passed."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aM1pl7haN7W4

Am I the only one

Am I the only one who thinks the strong NZ dollar is a good thing? As far as I can see all the benefits that would accrue to exporting sectors of the economy would come at a cost to everyone else. Why not just export less but make real money and real profit from what we do.

Matt and the 39 billion

Matt
and the 39 billion we pay in interest is going to come from??

Troy I think Ive found

Troy
I think Ive found your little problem,its in here somewhere I think.

The Fed Bails Out The World

No, that is not an overstatement: had the Fed not stepped in, the rest of the world (which optimistic pundits tend to forget exists in their bubble view of the US market as the one and only) would have simply collapsed as the $6.5 trillion dollar funding gap closed in on itself, causing a indiscriminate selling off of all dollar denominated assets. The implosion of the basis trade would have seemed like a picnic compared to what was about to ensue had the Fed not stepped in to perpetuate the Fiat banking way of life.

The severity of the US dollar shortage among banks outside the United States called for an international policy response. While European central banks adopted measures to alleviate banks' funding pressures in their domestic currencies, they could not provide sufficient US dollar liquidity. Thus they entered into temporary reciprocal currency arrangements (swap lines) with the Federal Reserve in order to channel US dollars to banks in their respective jurisdictions (Figure 7). Swap lines with the ECB and the Swiss National Bank were announced as early as December 2007. Following the failure of Lehman Brothers in September 2008, however, the existing swap lines were doubled in size, and new lines were arranged with the Bank of Canada, the Bank of England and the Bank of Japan, bringing the swap lines total to $247 billion. As the funding disruptions spread to banks around the world, swap arrangements were extended across continents to central banks in Australia and New Zealand, Scandinavia, and several countries in Asia and Latin America, forming a global network (Figure 7). Various central banks also entered regional swap arrangements to distribute their respective currencies across borders.
And it gets worse: the Fed's printing press single handedly guaranteed the way of life for the UK, the Eurozone and Switzerland with unlimited funding! Whether the Fed was within its rights to bet the American way of life in order to mitigate the stupidity of Europe is a question best left to politicians. And politicians take note: the Fed's actions were to the benefit of "banks around the world including those that have no US subsidiaries or insufficient eligible collateral to borrow directly from the Federal Reserve System."
Why is this critical? We are now back at a time when the only gains in the stock market are at the expense of dollar destruction, with a concomittant funding for dollar denominated assets. In one short year since the collapse of Lehman we have gone back to the same dollar funding risk exposure as was on the books in these days before Dick Fuld's empire unravelled. While whether or not the Federal Reserve stepped beyond its bounds in practically bailing out not just Goldman Sachs, but as this paper has proven, virtually the entire world, is not up to us to decide. However, a critical topic is: have we learned anything from the implications of an unprecedented dollar funding gap, which is likely back to record levels once again? What is obvious is that the Fed's current policy of a weak dollar, contrary to its repeated lies otherwise, is simply enhancing the dollar funding moral hazard: and the breaking point will come sooner or later with disastrous consequences.

AndrewJ, The Kiwi dollar has

AndrewJ,
The Kiwi dollar has skyrocketted and surpassed the performance of the Aussie dollar in the last few hours although both went up. It almost touched the 0.76 level and going strong.

Matt,
without the productive export sector, how would the economy make money? can you share your views with some illustrations/examples? Who knows that you might have the solution that others didn't think about it?

Andrew J lessening the value

Andrew J
lessening the value of the dollar will not solve out debt problems. If we erode the real value of our money then foreign lenders will just demand a much higher intrest rate to avoid taking a hit. Those who are to heavily indebted are in trouble regardless of where the dollar goes.

Even if that is not the case I still do not like the idea of joining everyone else in a race to the bottom. It strikes me as fundementally injust that prudent people should be forced to take unnecessary risk in order to preserve the real value of their money just so the indebeted are shielded from the full consequenses of their actions. I like reading Ambrose Evans Prichard but I can not agree with his prescrption.

Grandy The point of economic

Grandy

The point of economic activity is not to make money but to increase our standard of living. What is the point of exporting huge ammounts of stuff to end up with a pittance in return? That is the logical end result of trying to be a competative through a low value currency. The Japanese exported like crazy in the 1990s and 2000s by keeping the yen low, it got them nowhere.

Matt, Have to agree with

Matt,

Have to agree with you on the erosion of the dollar.

Sadly we are at the tail end of the greatest theft by inflation in modern history. We have had 80+ years of continuous inflation in this country. Check out this article which shows graphically how our degenerate spending on the misguided socialist agendas has destroyed the value of the currency.

Matt I am a supporter

Matt
I am a supporter of a high dollar. I think a high dollar is great,but now we have such a bloody great monkey on our backs in the form of Govt and regulations. On top of this we are facing competition from places we never even thought of before. Chile in Kiwi fruit,watch the huge areas in this country down Kiwi Gold this year. They have lower labor costs and much much lower taxes. How do we keep a first world wealth with 3rd word exports,how do we move to first world economy exports when its bloody near impossible to get past Govt costs and labor laws and on and on. Either way our standard of living is going to get a major hit.

Degenerate? Misguided? Socialist? Destroyed? You

Degenerate? Misguided? Socialist? Destroyed?

You should look for work as a spin doctor. You'd be great!

You're right about being at the 'tail end of the greatest theft in history' though.

We just ripped into the millions of years accumulation of fossil carbon, and chucked it into the air and the oceans. That's a move toward re-creating the Carboniferous period, which our species unfortunately could not exist in.

We're doing it withing 200 years, all-up.

And leaving our children with?

Now THAT's theft....

I looked at investing in

I looked at investing in sealegs. I thought it was a great innovative product but as long as Asian countries keep their currencies artificially low they are going to struggle as Asian countries can thrash us on cost of production.. MMP has given us a culture of whats in it for me and how soon can I get it.
In farming there is a $200 margin in cattle take $400 of the price and believe me it hurts big time.
The problem is we learnt cricket but never even taught the french to play it. We needed to teach the Chinese how to play fairly, they have no concept of the idea what so ever.
We had a chance in the 90's to make real change and we dropped the ball.

Dow Jones down over 130

Dow Jones down over 130 points in last hour of trade. Something's brewing.

Andrew J I agree with

Andrew J

I agree with everything you say and that is part of the reason why I favour a strong dollar. While it will inflict enormous pain on many in the agriculture and horticulture sectors it will force us into reality much quicker. If too many can not keep up their interest payments then there will be forclosures bringing down the price of rural land thus forcing councils to look at their rating system, it is much harder to raise rates when property prices are in decline. Central government will also face much lower tax revenue and sooner or later face a deficit that foreign creditors will not be so keen to finance and thus cuts to bloated govt expenses will be made whether or not they want to do it.

Well that is the theory. Thinking about it a bit more it may just be easier to meet Chile half way

ak / Steven : On

ak / Steven : On Radio Live this morning , Bernard said that the gap between the rich and the poor got wider in the last 10 years , in NZ , ironically under a Labour Government . Their policies appeared to assist the rich to get even richer ............ Ahem . You guys can send the bags of gummy bears ( in lieu of apologies ) to my new desk at BH's office , watch the ugly brown candles ........ Ta !