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90 seconds at 9am: NZ$ firms with A$; Asian central banks intervene to slow US$ fall
Click here for this morning's video.
Bernard Hickey details the key news overnight in 90 seconds at 9am in association with ASB, including news the New Zealand dollar hit 74.5 USc overnight as it rode higher with a strong Australian dollar in the wake of surprisingly strong jobs figures for the lucky country yesterday.
Employment rose 41,000 to 10.8 million, while the jobless rate fell to 5.7% from 5.8%., our sister site interestratenews.com.au reported.
However, the US dollar remains weak too on fears that too much money printing and a weak US economy is devaluing the US dollar.
Asian centrals banks were so worried about the weak US dollar they intervened overnight to buy US dollars and sell their own currencies, given they are dependent on their currencies staying low to help their export sectors. Central banks in Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong all intervened to weaken their own currencies, the FT reported.
Traders said the central bank intervention appeared to be aimed at controlling the pace at which the US dollar declines rather than an attempt to stop Asian currencies appreciating.
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"I don't think this is just notional, but I don't think they are massively intervening either," said Adam Gilmour, a Citigroup managing director who is co-head of the bank's Asia Pacific foreign exchange and derivatives businesses.
"I think they are just trying to slow down the movement. I don't get the impression that anybody is trying to draw a line in the sand."

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Glad I bought commodities and
Glad I bought commodities and not USSA dollars. Wonder what the picture is like for corporate bonds?
"Asian centrals banks were so
"Asian centrals banks were so worried about the weak US dollar they intervened overnight to buy US dollars and sell their own currencies, given they are dependent on their currencies staying low to help their export sectors. Central banks in Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong all intervened to weaken their own currencies,"
Hmmmm, what to do, what to do......
English Uncomfortable With New Zealand Dollar's Surge (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aUs95SrDtqVg
While borrowing costs "will normalize at some stage," English said that by reining in spending, the government "can influence just how far and how fast those interest rates rise."
You see, proof, that a credit/money volume control IS KNOWN to restrain i.rates, and hence exchange rate would also reduce. (Where would the 'carry pressure be? C'mon, be honest.) Classic orthodoxy from Bill E - that of course doesn't impact on banks and their interests, to a major degree. So, suppose we set about "reining in government spending" (eg. sort WFF; major cuts in non-essentials, like NZTE etc; rein in local govt. spending) AND give RBNZ an effective credit/money volume control - which would impact banks - but mean we build and sustain a wider, deeper export mix and develop a stronger productve economy? Would this not also reduce the housing bubble dynamic, intrinsic to our economy, and make housing more affordable?
Who wouldn't want this?
Who wouldn't want these outcomes?
http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2009/07/16/opinion-why-the...
So, the exodus to Australia
So, the exodus to Australia will soon resume.
Time for NZ to adopt
Time for NZ to adopt the gold standard for our currency while the NZD:USD is so high.
Wally can sell his to
Wally can sell his to the govt to start NZ's stash.
No body wants a weak
No body wants a weak Dollar, except the US, heck maybe even the US don't want a weak dollar. How else can you freeload on the rest of the world except by illusion of a strong currency ?? Financing their humongous deficit means the dollar don't get too weak otherwise interest rate will have to go higher...which will finally kill any semblance of their economy strength.
The rest of the world meantime is still fixated with an outdated model of "export for growth"...except they don't have many places to export to anymore. Therefore the rush to "slow" the Dollar decline againsts their own currency.
What is the final result of this policy ?? Gold goes up as investors finally give up on fiat currencies....But wait for the rebound soon....don't get caught by "irrational exuberance" in Gold.
Gold will keep rising because
Gold will keep rising because it is so damn useful and versatile. If things really turn to pus at least you can eat your gold. Or live in it and raise a family. Or grow vegetables in your gold's back yard, (if you're lucky you might even find more gold while digging.) Unlike other things you could exchange your hard earned cash for, gold never, ever falls in value (well maybe there was that one time, at band camp..). And if you don't want to eat your gold or live in it, maybe someone else will pay you real money (that you can give to the barman and he will give you a beer) to live in it. Or someone could borrow your gold and pay you interest. Gotta go buy me some gold, gotta hurry, afraid I'll miss out.
Bernard, David Malpass has an
Bernard,
David Malpass has an interesting opinion on devaluing a country's currency to prosperity.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870329800457445892318694187...
I liked the way you
I liked the way you put it pete!
Eventually the USD has to stop falling ( I dont buy the gold demand story when you have a bad recession)
The US still consumes more than the combined consumption of China,russia a,India and Brazil put together. If their real unemployment is 16% and the rest of the world partly rely on selling goods to US -Is deflation the most likely outcome?
What happens to gold when eventually it has to be sold
Steven gave this excellent link
Steven gave this excellent link yesterday.....the former CEO of RBS puts on a very eloquent show. His view on Gold Vs $US makes sense....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBi9iLspoRc&feature=player_embedded
We are stuffed, stuff that...they'd
We are stuffed, stuff that...they'd pay me in banknotes still wet with ink. The trick is to read the bigger picture. Pete doesn't want to do that, fair enough. Some of us want to protect what we worked for and prevent the thieving govt from destroying it.
My gold investments are in shares. If I wanted the metal in my hands, I would go for rare gold coins.
i'm with you ,wally....which makes
i'm with you ,wally....which makes me feel kinda uncomfortable...buy into the factory that produces the stuff, not the end product!
i bought into newcrest at $A10.18 back in '04 and today they're around $A35 .
also some other OZ stocks i boughtin the same mode are up around 2-300% since purchase.
it's a bit late to buy in now as the horse is out of the stable but if you cherry-pick some good mining stocks you'll do well.
check out IGR on the ASX...it has legs.
Why didn't the RBA and
Why didn't the RBA and RBNZ join in to intervene? Why just leave it to the Asian Central Banks? Is our exports not affected? What's holding us?
Looks like the credit crunch in the US is shifting to Asia like a Financial Currency Tsunami. Is it affecting us or are we always better than others so bad things won't affect us?
Rob, the tough part is
Rob, the tough part is knowing when to flog it. It's real price ought to be way higher than where it is right now. The buggers are screwing the scrum.
@PeterR: The exodus seems to
@PeterR: The exodus seems to consists of truck drivers and other mining workers....ie semi-skilled...going for high pay in tough conditions...money they wouldnt get near here in NZ....no biggee....
@Kin: I think its more relative, no one wants a weaker then them USD...so the USD can half in value as long as the Asian countries keep pace....but they have product to sell, ie a real economy....so I have to ask, how long can they keep intervening when they are structurally sound and the US is almost a basket case...
@chandra: No, the USD doesnt have to stop falling....it can and probably will fall substantially, the suggestion is 50%....to clear 60T in debt they cant pay, they could manage 30T though so its print, print, print....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBi9iLspoRc&feature=player_embedded
"Is deflation the most likely outcome?" if no one is buying TVs then yes those are going to deflate hugely as China etc has ramped up manufacturing capacity to meet the demand of a debt driven economy which no longer exists, ie its too large so they have over-capacity...they cant sack workers or they will riot so this points strongly to significant deflation in "some" goods....Others like food, petrol, electricity and goods with an effective monopoly will increase, maybe significantly....this means even less disposable income for "toys" yet again pointing to deflation.... then there is credit, it was freely available and cheap, lots of interest free deals....these are drying up, so no where for ppl to get substantial money means more deflation on "toys"....then there is as you say 16% un-employment in the USA, a huge market so a huge impact when it collapsed...commercial property in the USA is collapsing as retail has collapsed...
@ Steven "The exodus seems
@ Steven
"The exodus seems to consists of truck drivers and other mining workers"¦.ie semi-skilled"¦going for high pay in tough conditions"¦money they wouldnt get near here in NZ"¦.no biggee"¦."
Employment in the resources states of WA & Qld has dropped by approx/close to 10% each. The pick up in emplyement is in the other states.
Bernard, We have just posted
Bernard,
We have just posted some new gold/silver charts at www.nzgold.org in New Zealand Dollars. Examining these leads to a little 'gold-bug' circumspection because, even with the 'euphoria' of the last week or so gold is only marginally higher in the Kiwi than it was in August and September (the two worst performing months since October 2008). These can be accessed below:
http://www.nzgold.org/nzgoldandsilvercharts.htm
@AlexW, In which case watching
@AlexW, In which case watching these states for a drop in un-employment means we should then see a move back to OZ by NZers...if Im right...but if NZers are over there but get no un-employment then maybe they are not recorded in those figures....its like looking through fog....bloody hard....
If those states remain high un-employment but migration picks up, then that's other states and the skills are in other areas...
That's not fog you're wading
That's not fog you're wading through steven, it's effluent.
The QLD & WA job
The QLD & WA job figures in overall percentages. (5.8% in WA isn't really that bad)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/08/2708810.htm?section=australia
The State Opposition says Queensland has become the unemployment capital of Australia.
Last month, the state's jobless rate rose from 5.5 to 6.3 per cent, in seasonally adjusted terms.
It has not been that high since 2003.
The only other state where unemployment increased was Western Australia.
The jobless rate there increased from 5.4 to 5.8 per cent.
Opposition Leader John-Paul Langbroek says Queensland is the only state with unemployment over 6 per cent.
"This is a state now where we've got nearly 150,000 unemployed people - 40,000 more unemployed since the state election in March," he said.
@wally?
@wally?
@Steven Imagine this : If
@Steven
Imagine this : If every country prints as much as the US to keep parity (China money supply growth is 25% YTD annuaised). What would happen ?
The USD can go down 50% but againsts what currency / commodity if all country keep pace with USD money supply growth?
in a worldwide deflationary scene, asset prices will not go up, but short term speculative assets will be bought and gold will be kept to keep wealth from futher fiat currency depreciation....This is the situation right now. Stocks and equity are high as a speculative bet by banks unwilling to lend but is flush with cash by central banks stimulus....Gold is rising as investors flee from fiat currencies.
The final result when this is all over ?? EITHER : High inflated prices for all assets as we price to accomodate all the money being printed OR lower relative prices after excessive moneytary printing destroys every economy....(aka Japan )
If the world moves saway
If the world moves saway from USD- to either Special Drawing Rights with a basket of currency( proportional weight to the size of economy) or Global dollar(would be difficult but can still happen)-
commodities will then be bought on demand. What happens to the commodities and gold in the event of deflation?
What if other currencies also
What if other currencies also follow US dollar's free fall? would that be fair to achieve balance of trade?
Kin is right. The signal
Kin is right. The signal is clear. Buy commodities and if you own a farm debt free, lucky you. Food is a commodity. The sa
Gold up US$ down because
Gold up US$ down because of one person - wow!?? How sensible is currently the world economy system ? Is there already a hidden massive economical world war for dominance?
please listen:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28091_Page2.html
Pete and Chandra Why pick
Pete and Chandra
Why pick on gold - you can't eat paper or live in it either - the argument you make is specious. Still, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
Just keep repeating to yourself "gold is money". Sooner or later you'll get it.
And do some research - across time the value of gold does not really change in terms of the goods and services a given quantity will procure. What does change is the value of fiat currency.
For example, at the beginning of the 20th century 1oz of gold would by a good quality suit of clothes. Today it will do the same. Same applies to a barrel of oil over the past 60 years. There are numerous other good examples of how gold protects your wealth like nothing else.
And the best thing - governments can't print it.
...and my next question -
...and my next question - how far away are we from the collapse of the monetary system ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWyygiyPbdA
Ah, Yes 'the other russell',(
Ah, Yes 'the other russell',( 5.31pm). But they can take it off you !!!
http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html
@Harriet, Perhaps, but they've got
@Harriet,
Perhaps, but they've got to find it first. Anyway 'they' are already confiscating your wealth through inflation.
"The best way to crush the bourgeoise is between the twin millstones of inflation and taxation"
Lenin
I think the other one
I think the other one is just as true ! Cheers,TOR...
"Life is what happens to you whilst you're busy making other plans"
Lennon
This is begining to sound
This is begining to sound like Stagflation, low demand with inflation.
If the Asian countries are trying to keep the USD up by buying it with their own currency, this will increase the amount of their currency in circulation. Their own form of QE. The premise is that if you keep your currency low, you will get an export lead recovery, but where are the importers?
If they haven't got a way of recycling this extra liquidity our of their domestic economy it will cause inflation.
The USA is controlling the liquidity (in the short term) with the banks redepositing the fund with the Fed. This keeps the liquidity out of the domestic economy.
Japan has their domestic savers and the carry trade. ie pushing their liquidity in to the NZ property market.
China must be pouring liquidity in to its domestic economy (beause the CNY can't be lent to other countries like the Yen) so they can keep buying USD to keep the basically strong CNY declining in step with the USD.
There appears to a gigantic game of double or quit going on. The economy of who ever blinks first is going to implode.
NZ best bet is to keep out, it doesn't even have a table stake, much less enough to play.
As the NZD rises, our foreign debt decreases. Its NZ's best way to do the USA equivalent of inflating away the debt.
Don't get carried away by
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Alex / Bryan : How
Alex / Bryan : How are your breasts ? If you stop tweaking 'em , you'll see this idiot spammer ( above ) has got several shots past the goalie !