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US Fed prints money, heightens inflation fears
Bernard Hickey details the key news overnight, including the US Federal Reserve's plan to print money through bond buybacks. The Bank of Japan also announced a money printing plan. IBM is in talks to buy Sun Microsystems for US$6.5 billion. IBM has 1,000 staff here, while Sun has about 120.
The Fed is now a
The Fed is now a synonym for collective insanity. The US will soon find their standard of living permanently dented as their currency collapses, and interest rates rise to combat the hyper-inflation of another government bubble.
Why would anyone hold US dollars in the face of policies like this?
If the US dollar does collapse at some time over the next two years, what happens to our dairy trade/Fonterra?
they will still need milk
they will still need milk for their coffee!
Mark As I see it
Mark
As I see it they have no alternative, they have to slow the rate of collapse so that the hoi polloi can mentally catch up, The unintended consequence is that they have financed and been unable to suppress the rotteness of the perpetrators (ala AIG Bonus scandal, Sir Fred Goodmans pension etc) which is making the great unwashed very ugly
The alternative would be mass (and i mean MASS) unemployment, social disorder (riots) and widespread systematic collapse this year, as is I don't think this will happen until next year
Neven
I've never held with the
I've never held with the blackmail argument Neven - give me money or I'll take it. The only fix to this is to allow the free market to correct it. Look at what they are doing to themselves long term otherwise: this time, they're risking everything won since the Declaration of Independence, because with their debt they are approaching collapse, and inflating yet another short term bubble just makes the process from this point, surely, the quicker.
They need a ruthless 1980's styled Douglas plan, nothing else can save them (or us). Yes that's hard, but that's the price of having Governments run our lives - it always will end in tears.
And the AIG bonuses are just a smokescreen - it's not that the bonuses should have been paid, it's that the Government should never have conducted the bailout. Of the AIG bailout, 64% of those monies ended up paid to various corporates throughout Europe, mainly Germany and Swizterland. So the bialout had more in common with money laundering than anything else, on the back of the efforts of US taxpayers.
Let's hope the RBNZ and
Let's hope the RBNZ and NZ Treasury are on top the situation. All open unhedged short NZD/USD currency pair positions should be closed and USD reserves exchanged for other currencies.
Stephen: which currencies? And I
Stephen: which currencies?
And I also meant my first question as a serious one: 'If the US dollar does collapse at some time over the next two years, what happens to our dairy trade/Fonterra?' Do they just switch to trading in the Euro, or other currency? What happens in the period leading to such a change?
Can anyone predict what will
Can anyone predict what will happen to the rest of the world, and in particular New Zealand if the US has high or extremely high inflation? Will we in turn get high inflation as a result?
Mark Fair point. Hard assets
Mark
Fair point. Hard assets will be the only option.
John R.
We certainly will import inflation. And this will present the opportunity for business to pass outsize price increases on to the consumer. Further reducing the citizen's ability to pay down his own debts and that of the government.
Peonage is the way forward.
dazza, Mark, If the US
dazza, Mark,
If the US has a low dollar a large US dairy industry will become a very price effective export competitor. Under that scenario none of the milk in world coffee is likely to be NZ milk. Long term there will be a greatly reduced NZ dairy trade. Fonterra won't be there in its current form, but that is independent of recessions or the USD.
In the medium term, the local value of existing forward contracts for dairy products in USD will decline. Dairy payouts will fall even further.
The higher recent NZD/USD will have already dropped the NZD value of dairy commodities.
PeterR I pasted these from
PeterR
I pasted these from the trade me community site http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=3426214...
1400 a month How did Wrightson get there money this is going to get really ugly if the USA continues to depreciate I agree with you its getting very tough to see a way forward.
here are the comments;
My Fonterra statement was really sad this month too! A whole $1400 going into the bank LOL!
That $1400 won't cover the gst bill but will pay half our our employee's wage for the coming month... Or maybe the PAYE bill... Thank god for savings aye!! Even our farm owner is complaining, this month is the lowest milk payment he has EVER had in his entire career. Next month will only be slightly better. I'm not complaining though! Definitely not complaining as our budget is still on track & I knew this was gonna be a bad month. Everyone is struggling a bit though since there are normally higher payments starting to come through from advance increases which have not happened this year. I'm soooo glad right now that we are split calving! We will have a good payment coming our way on 20th of June even if they don't increase the payout.
At peak
We have 450. Right now we have about 170 milking. You will notice that I said I have $1400 going into my bank account. It was more but RD1 comes out before anything else so at least the power & telephone have been paid & last month's petrol bill.
Do the maths
Compared to the 2006/07 season costs are getting up to 20% higher. A $5.10 payout this season compared to the $4.46 of 2006/07 is only 14.3% higher. Therfore comparativly $5.10 is not such a good payout.
Everyone take a deep breath.
Everyone take a deep breath.
The BOE, BOJ and the Swiss are already implementing QE measures and their currencies havent collapsed (corrected yes, collapsed no). Similarily, after a healthy period of correction the USD will again return to favor once fear/panic re-enters the market (possibly around 1Q09 reporting time).
USD collapse and subsequent inflation is preconditioned on two factors (a) that the Fed can print dollars faster than the rate of debt and credit destruction (which I believe is ~3.5 Trilion to date - one hell of a headstart) and (b) there must be a market for the extra debt (again, not likely with employment rates likely to continue to deteriorate and households already significantly overleveraged) - remember, money NOT circulating in the market (ie. sitting idle in a bank vault) is NOT inflationary.
Despite the best efforts of the Fed to inflate away their problems, I believe we are entering a period of global deflation as opposed to (hyper)-inflation.
I do hope you're right,
I do hope you're right, Scott! But sadly I fear your closing comment is going to win out in the end.
ie: "....the best efforts of the Fed to inflate away their problems."
Scott, Agree entirely with your
Scott,
Agree entirely with your logic. The scale of asset deflation is close to the size of GDP, and inflation requires a willingness to take on debt.
Lower exchange rates though are being expected by most countries (NZ especially) to save their economies. Exchange rates are relative, so for every country gaining another has to lose. For today at least, NZ's hope has been trumped by the US.
I reckon that printing money
I reckon that printing money will cause high inflation (perhaps I am biased because I lived in Serbia and Zimbabwe, world leaders in self destruction by printing presses; gives new meaning to "ink mightier than the sword", eh?).
It would be interesting to read some predictions of impact on NZ if this does happen. Will high inflation in US/UK/Japan push inflation in NZ up too? What would low US$ and high US inflation mean for NZ exports, imports, interest rates, etc... Can AUS/NZ currency be seen as safehaven instead of a risky investment, thus pushing it even higher?
Back @ Janet - Didnt
Back @ Janet - Didnt work for the Japanese in the 1990's and Im not sure why the US would be any different. Maybe someone with a cultural studies background could argue differently.
Back @ PeterR - I believe the US is our no. 3 or no. 4 export destination so the strength of NZD/USD is of less importance to our exporting sector than say, the strength of NZD/AUD (no. 1 export destination). But you are right, it will be very interesting to see how this global race to devalue will play out. I heard that the BOE was discussing ways in which they could undermine the pound. Im not talking about lowering interest rates or QE etc, Im talking about actively creating doubt as to the viability of the currency. Amazing times that we live in.
So does this mean a
So does this mean a rise in inflation on property prices, oil, food, rents and other living costs ? Throughout the world and NZ? ie the money in the bank will it be worthless? And is it better to have your money locked into a "bricks and mortar" asset such as a house? I am wanting to go into business, but if the houseing bubble can be imported from the states can the inflation problem come here too? And will this cause price hikes (living expenses) for Kiwis that already dont earn enough $$ to keep up with the price of lving as it is?
http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-33-is-available!-Growing-Transatla
http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-33-is-available!-Growing-Transatlantic-tensions-on-the-eve-of-the-G20-summit-An-illustration-of-Wall-Street-s-and_a2940.html
"...London's G20 summit at the crossroads: Heading towards a crisis resolved in 3 to 5 years or towards a decade long uncontrolled crisis
According to LEAP/E2020, there are only two options left for the G20 leaders who gather next April 2nd in London: either they rebuild a new international monetary system, creating the conditions for a new global system that involves all the main global players, and reducing the crisis to a maximum of 3 to 5 years; or they strive to prolong the current system, thrusting the world into a decade long tragic crisis starting at the end of 2009..."
and: http://www.leap2020.eu/End-of-2008-The-world-enters-the-dec
and:
http://www.leap2020.eu/End-of-2008-The-world-enters-the-decanting-phase-...
Eva notes: G20 has two
Eva notes:
G20 has two choices as set out above.
I believe the choice to rebuild a new international money system was taken yesterday by the US Federal Reserve when they announced the outright purchase of US Treasury debt.
The integrity of the Fed's balance sheet will be restored while the previous purchases of worthless mortgage securities will be returned to their rightful owners at some point in the future.
The day that transaction stream is enacted, and it may take a while, the existing banking structure will rollover and a new structure will be erected in it's place.
The madness of exploding the Fed's balance sheet with worthless assets as depicted in the following graphic will stop:
http://www.omo.co.nz/historical_aggregate_vs_s&p_500.htm