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Allan Hubbard stepping down as chairman and director as rating cut to B+

South Canterbury Finance owner Allan Hubbard announced late on Friday night he would step down as chairman and director later this year as Standard and Poor's also warned of liquidity problems at the struggling Timaru finance company and cut its credit rating one notch to B+.
The ratings agency also warned it could cut the rating again within 3 months and said South Canterbury's cash on hand of NZ$106 million currently was less than the NZ$150 million it had expected.
Standard and Poor's left South Canterbury's rating at BB earlier this year with a negative outlook, allowing the finance company to stay above the BB threshold necessary for inclusion in the Government's extended deposit guarantee scheme until the end of next year.
Hubbard said he would still attend board meetings and he would assume a new role of President for Life role, which would allow him to be more focused on finding an equity partner.
Fellow Timaru resident and long time director Ed Sullivan also announced his decision to resign at the end of May.
South Canterbury Chief Executive Sandy Maier paid tribute to Hubbard and criticised Standard and Poor's decision to cut South Canterbury's credit rating.
Here is Hubbard's statement below on his decision to stand down.
Allan Hubbard, the Chairman and controlling shareholder of South Canterbury Finance Limited has decided to become President for Life and step aside as a director of the Company.
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The position has been created to reflect his special role and contribution to the Company over several decades, and which continues to endure.
Mr Hubbard indicated at last year’s Annual Meeting of the Company that he intended to step aside as Chairman of the board sometime this year. Moving into his new position as President for Life will enable a greater focus on finding a new equity partner for the Company and assist the drive to improve liquidity.
Commenting on his decision, Mr Hubbard says: “Significant achievements have been made by the board and new management team in the last six months to put the business on a sound footing. I am confident the decisions being taken will restore South Canterbury Finance as a leading provider of finance for business development beyond the traditional banking sector”
“There are two important tasks ahead: to work with the board and management to overcome the short-term liquidity issues that have arisen as an unintended consequence of the initial Crown retail deposit guarantee and secondly to find an equity partner for South Canterbury Finance to achieve an orderly succession and underpin the long term future of the business.”
Mr Hubbard says South Canterbury Finance has impacted the lives of many people over the years by providing resources at crucial times to support their endeavours.
“It is essential to the New Zealand economy that firms such as South Canterbury Finance are able to continue in this role.”
In the years he has chaired South Canterbury Finance, Mr Hubbard has transformed the business from a small local finance company into one of the country’s leading players in the non-banking finance sector.
“The South Canterbury Finance story is remarkable, and a tribute to the dedication of Allan, his wife and co-owner Jean and the people who have worked with him over the years,” Chief Executive Officer Sandy Maier says.
“He has made an enormous contribution by his far-sighted decisions to support the growth of New Zealand’s backbone industries. An acknowledgement of that was the recent presentation of the Ron Cocks Memorial Award for his contribution to the irrigation schemes that are now the basis of much of Canterbury’s wealth. But critically, Allan has used the resources of South Canterbury Finance to help people and to help them achieve their ambitions. He has worked tirelessly for a very long time and he continues to do so despite being in his eighties. This is a change in his role and not a retirement.”
As President for Life, Mr Hubbard will continue to attend South Canterbury Finance board meetings. The directors will convene in the near future to appoint a new Chairman of South Canterbury Finance.
In a separate development, Mr Edward (Ed) Sullivan has announced his retirement as a director of South Canterbury Finance with effect from 31 May 2010. Mr Hubbard thanked Mr Sullivan for his contribution over many years.
Meanwhile, South Canterbury issued a statement about Standard and Poor's decision to cut South Canterbury's rating, criticising several aspects of the decision and reiterating its confidence about a turnaround in its prospects:
South Canterbury Finance Limited today confirmed that the ratings agency Standard & Poor’s has affirmed its short term credit rating of B, removed the Creditwatch Negative outlook and adjusted the long term rating to B+.
The outlook for both ratings has been set at Creditwatch Developing. Commenting on the ratings action, Chief Executive Officer Sandy Maier says Standard & Poor’s goes some way towards acknowledging the progress South Canterbury Finance has achieved but in the Company’s view does not give full credit for the real progress made, particularly the recent momentum in building liquidity.
“The Company started its turnaround months ago and is achieving significant results. Our cash balance has increased substantially, the investor retention rate is improving and the programme to reduce the debenture maturity profile between now and October is proving highly popular with investors and is making excellent progress.”
The programme to manage the maturity profile is being done in two tranches. The first has been very successful with two out of three investors who have responded to date, with debenture investments totaling more than $110 million maturing between now and July, accepting longer dated maturities in advance of maturity.
“In essence Standard & Poor’s are now saying we are not going fast enough. With all due respect to Standard & Poor’s, we believe this misses the point of the turnaround we are pursuing. All along our aim has been to restructure the business in an orderly way to underpin its long term sustainability. Doing so will protect the interests of all investors and stakeholders more effectively than striving to meet the short term goals and expectations of the ratings agency.”
Mr Maier says the ratings downgrade does not affect South Canterbury Finance’s Crown guarantee under the retail deposit guarantee scheme which expires on 31 December 2011, nor does the downgrade constitute a breach of any covenants under South Canterbury Finance’s trust deed or other financial arrangements.
“South Canterbury Finance will continue to focus on the milestones it needs to achieve as it makes further progress towards its traditional role of supporting business growth. We acknowledge this will take time and the Company looks forward to regaining a higher credit rating as our milestones are met.”
Standard and Poor's issued its own statement below, expressing its concerns about South Canterbury's cash on hand:
Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services today lowered its long-term rating on New Zealand finance company South Canterbury Finance Ltd. (SCF) to ‘B+’ from ‘BB’. At the same time, the ‘B+’ rating was removed from CreditWatch Negative, where it was initially placed on March 2, 2010, and placed on CreditWatch Developing. The ‘B’ short-term rating was affirmed.
“The downgrade reflects our view that SCF’s financial profile is not consistent with its previous ‘BB’ rating and the restoration of its financial profile has not been quick or sufficient enough to stave off a downgrade,” Standard & Poor’s credit analyst Derryl D’silva said.
“Despite its relatively weak financial metrics for a ‘BB’ rating, SCF’s ‘BB’ rating was previously supported by strengths around its business profile and the financial flexibility stemming from its key shareholder. In our opinion, however, the balance-sheet-liquidity build-up, to date, has not been as strong as we anticipated; we have observed delays during the past few months. Specifically, we believe that SCF’s exposure to future refinancing risks is no longer tolerable at the previous ‘BB’ rating.”
The ‘B+’ rating, however, is supported by SCF’s recent momentum in building balance-sheet liquidity through: some success in management of forward maturities for June and July; good new debenture inflows; some success in loan resolution proceeds; and some progress in recapitalization plans. Although SCF’s reinvestment experience on forward maturities for June and July is an encouraging 57%, the reduction of refinancing risk for October 2010 has not progressed as quickly as we anticipated.
Additionally, SCF’s cash balance at end-May 2010 is NZ$106 million, which is less than the NZ$150 million we expected mainly due to delays in loan resolution proceeds.
A CreditWatch Developing listing by Standard & Poor’s implies a one-in-two likelihood that the rating may be raised, lowered, or affirmed within the next three months.
The rating could come under downward pressure if general debenture investor support were to materially weaken. Specifically if:
* The momentum of improvement in SCF’s reinvestment experience during May-July 2010 is not maintained in coming months.
* SCF’s management of forward maturities for August, September, and October was not as successful as its efforts to manage forward reinvestment maturities for June and July.
* SCF’s ability to raise new debentures weakened materially from its good experience in recent months.
* SCF’s cash balance did not increase to NZ$150 million by June 2010 and head toward NZ$200 million a few months later.
The rating could also come under downward pressure if:
* The likelihood of success in recapitalization efforts materially diminishes.
* SCF were excluded from the extended government retail deposit guarantee, or events led to problems with respect to its prospectus remaining in the market.
* Support from SCF’s key shareholder Mr. Hubbard materially diminished.
* New credit concerns emerged.
Upward rating prospects would benefit from:
* Continued debenture investor support.
* Ongoing improvement in SCF’s reinvestment experience in future months, such that the reinvestment requirement in October 2010 was to reduce to a level close to the average level of monthly debenture maturities.
* Good new money inflows being maintained.
* Ongoing balance-sheet liquidity being maintained at about NZ$150 million or higher.
* Any recapitalization plans materializing such that they reduced SCF’s liquidity and refinancing risks.
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if sandy maier pulls it off
if sandy maier pulls it off he will be president for life of the Lazarus society.what a tragedy for Hubbard.
11m a week--44 for the
11m a week--44 for the month--for june10 --at what rating does the govt pull the pin on the guarantee--
THE END IS NIGH! BRING OUT
THE END IS NIGH!
BRING OUT YOUR DEAD! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!
(I guess this is his way of weaseling out of covering his investors with his own money, the way he's always promised.)
11 million a week--44 for
11 million a week--44 for june10 --at what rating does the govt pull the pin on the guarantee or do they let it crash + burn?
david hillary ?
I reckon that somebody at the
I reckon that somebody at the very top of govt is waiting until they get their own personal investment returned before tossing the the outfit and everybody else to the wolves.
A sad result for a lifetimes
A sad result for a lifetimes work, but if you think you are helping by lending when nobody else will, what more could you expect?
"Mr Hubbard says South Canterbury Finance has impacted the lives of many people over the years by providing resources at crucial times to support their endeavours."
I think that SCF will impact on many, for many years to come, both on those that have lent to them and those that have borrowed from them.
RIP.SCF.
That is a lovely bit of
That is a lovely bit of sentiment there Stevel but I think you may be giving them too much credit (pardon the expression): In my opinion, it's likely the only people they thought they were helping were themselves.
Sandy the fat lady has
Sandy the fat lady has started singing!!!!!
"allow him to be more focused
"allow him to be more focused on finding an equity partner."
The "equity patner" has been working its way through SCF's back door for some time. The latest events work in its (PGC & Marac's) favour.
Watch for an announcement sooner than later.
As for Hubbard, he lost control of SCF a long time ago - if he ever had control, it just wasn't evident until pressures surfaced in the credit markets. Bad debts are a small part of the equation that can be offset with forward planning and smart management. The red flag was the arrangement SCF had with US investors. The terms reflected a poorly negotiated facility with a vulture investor (Fortress). Not what anyone putting their hard earned savings into SCF should have accepted from a supposedly formidable and stable NZ finance company.
Hubbard is clearly a good hearted man, but it's never smart to keep a sinking ship afloat when it continues to take on water.
He would have been in a strong position to consolidate SCF months ago through M or A but didn't have an exit strategy. It's not a tragedy for Hubbard but a tragedy for every investor that loses a dollar because of SCF's lack of forward planning and poor management.
"Hubbard is clearly a good
"Hubbard is clearly a good hearted man, but it's never smart to keep a sinking ship afloat when it continues to take on water."
You base that on what? Most of those with savings in SCF were saying that SCF "could never fail" even as SCF was failing in front of everyone. They were also telling themselves that Hubbard wouldn't let them down, that he personally guaranteed their money, that he still lived in the same modest house and drove the same modest car as always and therefore was "one of us". And they said that "SCF retained at least as much in liquid capital as it loaned", so their money would always be safe.
When I asked them how they *knew* all these things - had they personally audited SCF's accounts, or seen a report by independent auditors? - they became quite unhappy with the line of questioning.
It was all about *faith*, you see. Faith that their greed for stupendously high FC interest rates would never be penalised in any way, only rewarded.
"You base that on
"You base that on what?"
Knowledge, insight, a lot of experience and a touch of common sense.
"It was all about *faith*, you see."
Emotion. On Hubbard's part and those who invested in SCF.
The problem is with the
The problem is with the belief in Hubbard's goodness is that it effectively precludes him from being a competent businessman. Quite simply put, you cannot be both in the finance industry. Either you get rich or you be nice. Nice guys finish last.
Hubbard got very rich. Many of those who made him wealthy were so-called "mum and dad" investors, who essentially gave him everything they had. Now his company has been revealed to be little more than an empty shell, owing far more than it's worth.
Was he taken for a ride by evil henchmen? If so then he was a very poor businessman (and therefore may well have been a nice guy). However, if any continue to assert that he is a savvy and astute businessman, he must accept all the blame for his company's present predicament, which means he is anything but Jesus's nicer cousin, because SCF didn't get where it is today by being too nice. Unfettered greed and a total disregard for others got it to this point.
@ Larcus Mush sorry but your
@ Larcus Mush sorry but your argument doesn't stack up. If that were so, only the nice guys would have failed, but the fact is the a whole bunch of a$$holes have failed before hubbard. the finance industry is a gigantic failure because it is riven with people whose think they are in control, when they are not.
the fact that someone who genuinely cares for his people had a good go at this terrible industry should be celebrated. the whole "nice guys finish last" ethos is exactly the kind of imbecilic thinking that got us into this mess - it's just a device for abdicating any sense of morality or responsibility.
i feel sorry for you larcus because you cannot see the wood for the trees. tragic
You may not like the fact
You may not like the fact that the finance industry attracts precisely the kind of people most able to succeed within it - the sleazy, every-man-for-himself, do whatever it takes, even if it's not legal, just don't get caught! kind - but it doesn't change the reality of the situation.
Alan Hubbard was a far better actor than most of his peers, although it could be argued that his peers just felt the act to be completely unnecessary, and who's to argue with that?
My point was.. "Hubbard is
My point was..
"Hubbard is clearly a good hearted man," = emotional decisions.
"but it's never smart to keep a sinking ship afloat when it continues to take on water." = lack of any forward planning and poor decison making.
Conclusion = SCF fails.
If you rearrange the letters
If you rearrange the letters from "South Canterbury Finance", you get "A Burnt Franchisee County" Hope there's not too many disenfranchised investors out there with this lot. Get out while the going's good.
Isn't the credit rating
Isn't the credit rating downgrade timely, just shortly after the GG extension was approved. I really do believe that currently all markets are rigged.
Lets not forget here that
Lets not forget here that Hubbard is in his 80s and has failing health...
The time for valedictory speeches is now because he has now given up control on the company by stepping aside as Chair - also his long time side kick Ed Sullivan is also stepping down, so the torch has been passed, so to speak.
With Hubbard out of the way I think you will see a far more aggressive approach taken to getting the company out of the poo... Although as the rating downgrades continue to stench does get stronger....
Dunno about you but I'm about
Dunno about you but I'm about all sympathied-out right now. Making taxpayers prop SCF up some more doesn't appeal at all.
Even if SCF were left to their own devices, why even bother trying to salvage what has been shown to be an utter wreck?
wasn't the downfall of SCF
wasn't the downfall of SCF due to exposure to property developers whereas Hubbard was more into core industries? Ie wasn't it more a matter of young turks (Lachie McLeod?) going after "riches from real estate". I don't think Alan Hubbard would have taken that bait (despite buying a Volkswagen fifty years ago)?
Yet he let it happen. Did he
Yet he let it happen. Did he raise a stink about it? Or even quietly voice concerns? Or did he just rub his hands gleefully and say "money Money MONEY!"?
It is well documented that
It is well documented that Hubbard was gravely ill around three years ago and was out of the loop for approximately a year. It was during this time that McLeod and Sullivan (who effectively lead a weak-kneed board)ventured into the property sector. They foresaw huge profits and hence entered into loans to buy shares in SCF's parent which they are both now defaulting on. Hubbard has put everything in to "stem the tide" but it is too large. Surely now the new SCF directors will see fit to pursue those responsible and seek repayment of their loans.
Nah they'll probably pay them
Nah they'll probably pay them big bonuses.
@RDee: "Hope there's not too
@RDee: "Hope there's not too many disenfranchised investors out there with this lot. Get out while the going's good"
Well, the going isn't looking too good. But then, at least the Govt Guarantee is still in place until the end of next year, so the "mum and dad" investors have not much to worry about.
''Govt Guarantee is still in
''Govt Guarantee is still in place until the end of next year, so the "mum and dad" investors have not much to worry about.''
That pisses me off. Not because I want to see ordinary people suffer or anything but you know they weren't forced to put their money into the company. They did it because they wanted the advertised higher returns. It isn't as if SCF was a bank, they are a finance company with all the associated risks. When you put money into a business and that fails you don't expect the govt to bail you out of it even if there was crookedness involved, because that's what the courts and lawyers are for. You take a calculated risk on these things and sometimes they pay off and sometimes they don't, but you shouldn't expect everyone else to bail you out for your poor decisions.
It's perfectly fine, because
It's perfectly fine, because the majority of those investors have invested solely because of the GG, otherwise they would have invested elsewhere. Essentially it is the gov who are providing those higher returns, due to the money being secured by them. I just worry that there a lot of investors whose money is due to mature after the GG runs out, due to them not understanding the timing of the GG.
Hm. But isn't the GG a NEW
Hm. But isn't the GG a NEW thing?
Most investors have had their money with SCF for yonks right -- way before the GG came along? Yes?
Or no?
If you dove in after the GG then yes it makes sense even though I don't like the motive behind it which is basically to rip-off the taxpayer.
When you make a poor business decision you should be man enough to accept sole responsibility and not suck off the tax teat like some welfare bludger.
The GG was introduced about
The GG was introduced about 18 months ago, so many people who have invested, invested after it was introduced, on an 18 month term. However the GG did give people who invested prior to the GG being introduced, to get their money out.
Toad's Tool, you missed the
Toad's Tool, you missed the point of my statement. Whether it "pisses you off" or not is rather irrelevant and does not change the fact that those investors have not much to worry about, given the Government Guarantee. Did they go for the higher returns? - Sure! Calculated risk? - True as well, BUT their risk assessment would have taken the Guarantee into account! Did those investors make a poor decision? - Personally, I can't see it as one way or the other they'll get their moneys back.
Hang on a minute. I thought
Hang on a minute. I thought these government guarantees was a new thing?
When the investors first piled in there was no guarantee right? Or have I got it wrong?
But that has definitely got to be the bargain of the century if you can put your dosh in for a high rate and if the co fails you still get the money courtesy of el tax-payer!!!
Wish I had thought of it.
:(
Toads Tool: but you shouldn't
Toads Tool:
but you shouldn't expect everyone else to bail you out for your poor decisions.
....
I take it your not Toad of the Green Party (or I'd be advocating a condom for those who seek to go on the dpb).
I think people with Hubbard
I think people with Hubbard managed funds have done allright.
Yes matie it certainly seems
Yes matie it certainly seems that way!
If I had known that the tax payer would pay you out even if the finance co crashed and burned I would of jumped in feet first!!!
They should put GOVT BAIL OUT GUARANTEED AT THE END in their adverts.
there seems to be limit on
there seems to be limit on how much you will get back--250000 after 12 oct 2010 see section 1.7
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/economy/guarantee/retail/qanda/coverage/inde...
Hubbard managed Funds aren't
Hubbard managed Funds aren't Gov't guaranteed.They are privately managed investments.
Oh OK.
Oh OK.
The writing is on the wall
The writing is on the wall now. SCF will be toast once the GG expires in October.
Not so fast anon..a phone
Not so fast anon..a phone call here and a wink there and hey presto SCF receives a 500 million dollar injection of capital from.....wait for it......THE CULLEN FUND. You can count on it!
If they do that, they should
If they do that, they should have done the same for hanover, or other finance companies.
@Price 9:55pm >>I reckon
@Price 9:55pm
>>I reckon that somebody at the very top of govt is waiting until they get their own personal investment returned before tossing the the outfit and everybody else to the wolves.
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BINGO!
so the govt. ends up owning
so the govt. ends up owning some of the best dairy land in new zealand and a whole lot of other high value assets if SCF goes down and they inherit the "farm" after the GG/tee runs out?
so what?
another good SOE is what it would become.....where's the problem.
bad management does not necessarily make a bad company asset base.
The problem is that SCF has
The problem is that SCF has so many fingers in so many South Island pies that if it fails it sends an awful lot of effluent showering in so many directions that are key to the south's economy. Failure would severely dent this end of the country; we're not just talking people losing their savings, bad enough though that is. I believe that's why Key stepped in to help unravel the whole mess. Also, Bill English has an interest in how well Dipton does.
SCF is being bailed out
SCF is being bailed out because troughers like Double-Dipton Billy are protecting their own arses.
They don't give a stuff about anyone else except themselves and their cronies.
If SCF could collapse without burning wee Bludger Bill and his buddies, SCF would have been left to collapse.
my guess is Hubbard knows it
my guess is Hubbard knows it is a goneburger and has stepped down because he doesnt want to be there when the receivers take over.
it appears to me that SCF
it appears to me that SCF will struggle with the new guard who are not seasoned finance company directors and exec's. The realty is that the rating now reflects a one in X chance of default. not quite the spin Mr. Maier has been putting on it. i think the loss of some executives CFO and GM funding will continue to damage the company. The rest were rubbish
This is S+Ps view on b rating;
An obligation rated 'B' is more vulnerable to nonpayment than obligations rated 'BB', but the obligor currently has the capacity to meet its financial commitment on the obligation. Adverse business, financial, or economic conditions will likely impair the obligor's capacity or willingness to meet its financial commitment on the obligation
Per the Reserve
Per the Reserve Bank
http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/finstab/nbdt/creditratings/3914649.pdf
1 in 5 chance of failure.
Statutory Management is the
Statutory Management is the only answer, and luckily SCF already have the right guy in the top job to manage the process.
Keep telling yourself that
Keep telling yourself that and I'm sure you'll get all your money back.
"my guess is Hubbard knows it
"my guess is Hubbard knows it is a goneburger and has stepped down because he doesnt want to be there when the receivers take over."
Alan, if you really think that, you certainly don't know Allan Hubbard at all
i dont think he was given an
i dont think he was given an option - it is interesting that both hubbard and Sullivan have gone when you consider they are the last link to the previous CEO. I can recall many a time when McLeod would state 'we are different from those other finance companies' perhaps the didnt know what that he meant the same.
Oh well another one bites the dust.