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BIS forecasts ageing population could halve real house prices in NZ in the next 40 years

Bank for International Settlements forecasts ageing of populations in developed countries such as NZ will drag on real house prices over the next 40 years.
By Bernard Hickey
The Basel-based Bank for International Settlements (BIS) has forecast that the ageing of populations in developed economies could act as a significant drag on real house prices and other asset prices over the next 40 years as an ageing population sells assets built up in previous years to live on the proceeds.
The BIS, which acts as a type of central bank for central banks, forecast that real house prices in New Zealand could be almost halved by 2050 because of the effects of an ageing population, while real prices could fall 35% in Australia and more than 50% in Ireland.
BIS economist Elod Takats made the forecasts for 22 developed countries in a paper titled 'Ageing and Asset prices'. It is also available in full here.
"Individuals borrow when young, and in their middle ages they repay these debts and also save for old age," Takats said in the paper, which included freshly compiled statistics showing how real house prices had changed over the last 40 years.
Takats found that the demographics of younger populations had helped boost house prices and asset prices in the last 10-20 years, but that this tailwind was now turning into a headwind for asset prices.
"The young save for old age by buying assets, while the old sell assets to finance retirement. This asset transfer can happen directly or through institutions such as pension funds. In this setting, the change in the relative size of asset buyers (the young) and sellers (the old), have consequences for asset prices," Takats said.
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"In particular, the asset purchases of a large working age generation, such as the baby boomers in the United States, drives asset prices up. Conversely, if the economy is ageing, ie the subsequent young generation is relatively smaller, then asset prices decline. In the last 30 years, during the active years of the baby boomer generation, asset prices have increased massively," he said.
"Asset prices propelled by the boomers’ savings will be under pressure when this large generation retires and starts to sell its assets to the relatively smaller subsequent generation."
Takats statistics show that real house prices almost doubled in New Zealand in the last decade, making them the fastest growing in the developed world between 2000 and 2007. Australia's surge over 2008 and 2009 took it into the lead after 2007.

"The estimates suggest that real house prices will face substantial headwinds over the next forty years due to ageing. Though the results do not imply absolute real price declines, they suggest that in the next forty years house prices in advanced economies will face a more difficult environment than in the past forty years," he said.
Here is the chart showing the forecasts for how big the demographic headwind for house prices will be in 2010-2050 (dark bars), while the estimated demographic tailwind from 1970 to 2010 is shown in the lighter coloured bars.

Takats said the tailwind or headwind forecast did not necessarily result in real price falls or rises, given other factors could drive prices.
"The United Kingdom experienced one of the highest price gains in spite of the tiny negative demographic contribution. Italy and Korea enjoyed strong house price growth in spite of substantial demographic headwinds. This illustrates the strong role of other, non-demographic factors. In particular, the graph shows that demographic headwinds do not necessarily translate into real house price declines," he said.
Here are the real price results for all 22 countries in the dark bars with the demographic effect in the light bars.
New Zealand had a small tailwind over 1970 to 2010, but its real price rise was much stronger.

Headwinds and Tailwinds
Takats said two trends could either soften the headwind of the ageing population or make it worse.
Baby boomers may choose to work longer rather than retire, which would soften the blow. Pensions could also be cut, which would intensify the headwind as pensioners sell their assets more aggressively to pay for their retirement and healthcare.
"First, advances in technology and health are likely extend working age and redefine old age in the future. Though the analysis treats everybody over 65 years as old, working age could be extended in the future, as workers remain healthy longer and physically demanding jobs are replaced by more knowledge intensive jobs." Takats said.
"Second, old age entitlement, such as pensions and health care benefits, are likely to be cut in most advanced economies. Private corporations, facing intense competitive pressures, have already phased out of defined benefit pension plans – and replaced them with much less generous defined contribution systems," he said.
"In the government sector ageing related entitlement spending is currently set on an unsustainable path. Hence, lowering old age government benefits seems to be inevitable," he said.
"Consequently, the next old generation might have to run down their assets in old age more aggressively than previous old generations as their private and public entitlements would be much less generous. This would exacerbate the negative impact of ageing on asset prices."
Takats said the estimated ageing impact was relatively mild in the United States with around 80 basis points per annum headwinds. The drag was estimated to be much larger in most of continental Europe and in Japan.
"This finding is at the high end of earlier empirical estimates, but does not constitute an asset price meltdown. It is important to reiterate that the findings do not imply absolute real house price declines, as real house prices are affected by many other factors which could well compensate for the demographic headwinds."
Takat said one implication of the impact of ageing on asset prices was that public and private pension systems would struggle to meet their promises.
"Public, pay-as-you-go pension system benefits are becoming increasingly unsustainable as fewer workers are supposed to support increased number of retirees in the near future," he said.
"This paper highlights that private pension schemes face very similar challenges as ageing reduces asset prices."
Financial stability
These headwinds for asset prices may also affect financial stability.
"Advanced economies, households, private institutions and the public, have accumulated substantial debt in the past few years. The results of the paper suggest that the assets financed by this debt could come under long run pressure. In particular, long run asset price headwinds could complicate the unwinding of leveraged financial positions," Takats said.
He said the results of the paper were also relevant when thinking about the sustainability of government debt.
"Two ageing related effects on government fiscal positions are well-understood. First, ageing will increase government expenditures, especially pension and health care spending. Second, ageing will slow economic growth as labor supply growth slows and in many cases reverses. Both of these factors will exacerbate government debt sustainability challenges."
Long run interest rates to rise
Takats said his paper highlighted a third negative effect.
"Lower asset prices imply that long run interest rates will face upward pressure in the future. These higher long term interest rates would make debt sustainability even more challenging," he said.
"In sum, this paper found that ageing is likely to affect future asset prices substantially negatively, though asset price declines, let alone a meltdown, are unlikely. The impact seems to be strong enough to think about its implications in pension provision, financial stability and government debt sustainability."
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So....the long decline is set
So....the long decline is set to become a familiar scene...not good news for OllyN!...
Something missing from this
Something missing from this analysis is the usual cunning plan to import a younger demographic from countries without this age-group bulge. Will be very interesting to see how it pans out. I can't think of any historical precedent of a population so skewed towards older people. We're in uncharted waters.
Don't need to import
Don't need to import youngsters. There are plenty of older renters on this site who will keep the PIs going.
You forgotten to mention rich
You forgotten to mention rich Chinese suckers like Chen & Co from Natural Diary buying houses to live in if their bid for crafar is successful....Heck except the old guys has to face his Asian neighbours every day driving in his Benz.
Thanks Bernard for another
Thanks Bernard for another entirely irrelevant load of theoretical garbage. You truely are the FOX News of the anti property movement. Bravo.
Actually the BIS make the
Actually the BIS make the rules. I'd have a listen to them if I were you. Basle 3 might be being watered down at the moment, but Basle 4 will be what? And here's a part of their thinking.
Anti-property movement??? Do
Anti-property movement??? Do they have a secret handshake and sleeper agents in every real estate office in the world, waiting for their orders from the conspiracy leaders in their secret volcano hide-out somewhere in Mt Eden?
An anti-property movement is a figment of your imagination. People aren't anti property. They're anti credit and hysteria-fuelled bubble. There's a difference.
Knock, knock........knock.
Knock, knock........knock. "The fat man walks alone". It on for tonight; AMI Stadium.
I'll alert our comrades in
I'll alert our comrades in Alpha Cell IV.
roger ......that... Kakapo /
roger ......that... Kakapo / Nick I'll alert Big B the target has tumbled our game.....mop up and deny everything.
Will Mao be there?
Will Mao be there?
Yes. VI Lenin as well
Yes. VI Lenin as well
Should only be a year and
Should only be a year and B.H. will be justifying his "Fresh" idea and giving us a 20 point plan as to why the market will fall between 5% over the next month give or take 5% each way. Give it up mate just because your house is a pile of junk and not worth what you paid for it does not imply that the rest of the world in in the same boat as you.
-Some countries will be
-Some countries will be better off than others.
-Migration is a vital supporting pillar of the housing market value
-When there are more people leaving the planet than arriving in the planet...asset devaluation across all markets look
I am not selling, will leave
I am not selling, will leave that to my childrens children, my rents will more than cover my needs.
I hate people leaving house
I hate people leaving house totheir children simply because this will keep inflating the house price, that the reason why the house is so expensive, and this will let your kid in $50k income liing in a $1m housem, that will make people feel uncomfortbal like BH.
time frames... "Banks and
time frames...
"Banks and households are saving quickly enough to retire most of their excessive debt within a decade. "
Not its "excessive" debt....and only excessive debt...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/opinion/07phelps.html?_r=1
and this is a short recession?
yeah right
Look at Japan. You can buy a
Look at Japan. You can buy a 3 bedroom house there for less than half the cost of 1989.
It's all demographically driven. I'd listen to what the article says. Real Estate might be stuffed as an investment altogether for a generation. You can make money from rent, but expect it to be a lower return than what you are used to, because rents FOLLOW the overall economy. To get the highest return, you have to buy in the bad part of town, just like in the last Depression. But I wouldn't buy just yet, because I think property is going to get a whole lot cheaper in the next couple of years.
For now I leave you with a blog on the devastation in the US: http://bubblemeter.blogspot.com/2006/07/ventana-condo.html
and www.patrick.net
Oi Happy Renter, you seem
Oi Happy Renter, you seem sadder by the day. Is the reality dawning on you.?
Shouting about it wont make the property market collapse you know.
Interesting and probably
Interesting and probably true. It will mean more people living on the streets below poverty level, and we know that some 80% of immigrants leave after about three years. They feel like misfits in NZ and feel unwelcome. 40% of skilled kiwis have already left and are not coming back. Pensions already below poverty level (despite creative accounting to show the opposite). Will that leave NZ in the world gutter.
I am an immigrant, I suppose
I am an immigrant, I suppose many ppl leave their home country thinking NZ or anywhere else is better, it often isnt....I came here 15 years ago and stayed...the ones who Ive talked to who stayed are realistic...IMHO...
Leave? there is no where to go, we are looking at 10~30 years of grief and strife world wide, watch kiwis come home.
State pensions have never been high, I fail to see why ppl dont provide extra for themselves and then whine when all they get is the basics...
The world is heading for the "gutter"..but this depends on your defination of gutter...
NZ is food rich...and of small enough population to be self-sustaining....get used to the idea that future generations will live something like the Amish...and they seem pretty happy...
regards
I agree with you...I am born
I agree with you...I am born & bred in NZ and am amazed that some folk in NZ think we have poverty/gutter living...we are not even close to those living in 3 world countries, even for those folk unfortunate enough to be hitting hard times with no work and loosing their homes...we have amazing community supports set up in NZ and WINZ (not the greatest to deal with but better than actually living in the gutter)
We have options in NZ - in a lot of other countries people have zero options/opportunities other than to beg on the streets or sell themselves or their children.
I am emensley grateful to be living in NZ and this report does not bother me a bit.
Well here's a news flash for
Well here's a news flash for the Monday morning 90 at 9... residential foreclosures overtook business and property portfolio's....... Bank'y boys... giving MOM N POP THE Boot in droves...............if unemployment or even job sharing to reduce lay off's increases even modestly this slip will become an avalanche.
We live in your world.... but you can no longer live in our house........you understand..
Why listen to the BIS, the
Why listen to the BIS, the central bank for central banksters, these guys are part of the easy money philosophy that created the bubbles.
Maybe they should stop distracting from the huge mess the FED created in the US and world banking system and start sorting themselves out, if thats at all possible.
Can't compare with Japan,
Can't compare with Japan, they are a anti-immigration society and do not depend on immigration of younger people to sustain the working age population. May be simliar case for Australia as their natural resources are already stretched to the limit due to water availability and limited land for agriculture. However, NZ is different and would still be able to receive plenty of young immigrants to replace the aging population.
Interesting that David
Interesting that David Goldman comes to more or less the same conclusion, (demographic ageing is deflationary) years ago, in a paper to Cantor Fitzgerald clients.
35% real drop in house prices
35% real drop in house prices requires house price inflation to average 1.083% below CPI inflation over 40 years - therefore it is quite possible to have nominal growth but a real decrease in house prices.... just food for thought!
If we keep importing people,
If we keep importing people, as some of you suggest , you fail to realize they are generally non-skilled workers which can only get low paying jobs!! And the smart ones are asset stripped basically when they enter the country. How are they ever going to afford the overpriced housing market here lol. Based on this I fail to see how exactly imports are they going to "prop up" the market.
Im on above the median income, no kids, no major debts and I wouldnt dream of sinking my money into a house. I get far more enjoyment out of using my money, instead of paying hundreds of thousands in interest to some ausi bank. if you want to save for your retirement, housing isnt the way anymore, a good old savings plan (kiwisaver or whatever you decide) is more suitable and more secure than something you will find harder and harder to sell.
I think the scary thing for the baby boomers is that im not alone in my thinking. All of my young professional friends have the same view. So when my generation can afford to buy houses, we probably wont. Then watch the house prices pop like the bunch of over-inflated bunch of ballons that they are.
No new building permits,Good
No new building permits,Good trades men leave for better opportunities, successive govts. lent money to those who fled the country with unpaid loans. House prices will not come down but rent will be unaffordable.Then another property boom will start in 15 to 20 years time.We have only three years plan unlike some asian countries very long term plans.we can not & shall not look past our noses. Do not believe in honest days work but expect more & more.We are on a fairly level sliding slope and still there is time to make long term commitments, less borrowins ,try to be self sufficiant.Character building right from the the very young age,so on & forth.Time to wake up to do something for our future generations.
But I thought one couldn't
But I thought one couldn't lose on property?