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Top 10 at 10 to 12: Inside the Allco meltdown; Euro doubts; How to short America; Dilbert

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Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 to 12. I welcome your additions and comments below or please send suggestions for Wednesday’s Top 10 at 10 to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz Our lightbulbs are not creepy. Dilbert.com

1. Allco Warning - It's all coming out now. The chairman of Australia's Allco, which owned Strategic Finance, was warned by its Chief Financial Officer of an impending collapse, it has emerged in court hearings, The Australian reports.

A SENIOR executive of Allco Finance Group warned the company's chairman of a possible "perfect storm brewing" that would result in an "uncontrollable meltdown scenario" one year before the group's collapse, the Federal Court was told yesterday.

A consortium of banks was left owed $660m and one of the contentious deals done in the final 12 months of the company's existence was a $50m loan to a related party, the Allco Partners Trust (APT), whose unitholders included a number of senior Allco executives, and the $330m Rubicon deal that involved two directors. The $50m unsecured loan was not disclosed to shareholders and Allco's liquidators have indicated they think it should be reversed.

It was revealed yesterday that APT had negative assets of $120m; could not meet its bills by the end of the month (in November 2007); it was "largely illiquid"; and it was "near impossible" to predict its cashflow.

2. Euro survival in doubt - Wolfgang Munchau at the FT.com puts his finger on the significance of Germany's moves in the last few days to throw Greece to the IMF, citing constitutional court rulings against supporting other euro nations. Essentially, the euro is stuffed, he is saying.

I have heard suggestions that a deal may still be possible at this week’s European summit, but only if everybody were to agree to Germany’s gruesome agenda to reform the stability pact. That would have to include stricter rules and the dreaded exit clause, under which a country could be forced to leave the eurozone against its will. I am not holding my breath.

But either outcome will mark the beginning of the end of Europe’s economic and monetary union as we know it. This is the true historical significance of Ms Merkel’s decision.

While Greece faces the most acute difficulties, it is not the only member in trouble. There are at least four – Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland – that are probably not in a position to maintain a monetary union with Germany under current policies indefinitely. There may be several more, where the problems are not yet quite so evident. In the presence of extreme current account imbalances and a lack of bail-out or fiscal redistribution mechanisms, a monetary union among such a diverse group of countries is probably not sustainable.

3. 'So bloody lucky' - This AP piece on Yahoo highlights the new commodity boom about to be unleashed in Australia: gas. Here's the links to Jetstar (cheapest NZ$137 for March 31), AirNZ (NZ$331) and Pacific Blue (NZ$279)

Projects being ramped up to tap huge undersea fields off the country's northwest could quadruple Australia's exports of liquefied natural gas in the next few years and turn it into what the country's resources minister has called an "energy superpower."

It will be the next stage of a long boom that has enriched Australia and made it a key supplier of the raw materials underpinning Asia's development -- from the girders in city skyscrapers to the fuel burned to light them.

"We have what the world, and particularly the rapidly growing economies of Asia, want -- iron ore, energy and minerals," said Colin Barnett, the premier of Western Australia state, which is at the heart of the new boom.

The Australian government says Gorgon could generate exports worth AU$300 billion during the next 20 years. And that's just one project. There are at least a half dozen other large gas plans in the works, including Australian company Woodside's $12 billion plan to tap the Browse fields holding an estimated 20 trillion cubic feet of gas.

4. Buffett better than Obama - Bloomberg points out in this cheeky piece that the bond markets now believe that bonds issued by Warren Buffett's AA+ Berkshire Hathaway are worth more and are safer than US Treasuries on AAA.

Two-year notes sold by the billionaire’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in February yield 3.5 basis points less than Treasuries of similar maturity, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Procter & Gamble Co., Johnson & Johnson and Lowe’s Cos. debt also traded at lower yields in recent weeks, a situation former Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. chief fixed-income strategist Jack Malvey calls an “exceedingly rare” event in the history of the bond market.

The $2.59 trillion of Treasury Department sales since the start of 2009 have created a glut as the budget deficit swelled to a post-World War II-record 10 percent of the economy and raised concerns whether the U.S. deserves its AAA credit rating. The increased borrowing may also undermine the first-quarter rally in Treasuries as the economy improves.

“It’s a slap upside the head of the government,” said Mitchell Stapley, the chief fixed-income officer in Grand Rapids, Michigan, at Fifth Third Asset Management, which oversees $22 billion. “It could be the moment where hopefully you realize that risk is beginning to creep into your credit profile and the costs associated with that can be pretty scary.”

5. Bank tax - There's been rumblings for a while about some sort of special tax on banks globally, but the problem has always been getting the US, UK and European governments to agree, otherwise there's a big risk the banks will play regulatory arbitrage tennis and financial centres will eventually compete their rates down to nothing.

But maybe the pollies could get their act together. Here's the New York Times talking about the US and Germany starting to talk along similar lines. I still think it will fall over somewhere, but if it doesn't this will add to pressure higher on retail interest rates globally as banks scramble to recover the profit from somewhere.

U.S. President Barack Obama’s proposal for a direct tax on banks to pay for future bailouts is gathering momentum in Europe, with Germany set to move ahead with its own levy and Britain expected to endorse a similar measure ahead of the Group of 20 meeting next month. The developments leave France as one of the few major Western economies yet to endorse the idea of such a levy.

But while Mr. Obama and Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government seem determined to press ahead, analysts and officials cautioned that a globally coordinated approach would be preferable to deter banks from shifting operations to countries without the extra tax, potentially offsetting its effectiveness. They also stressed that U.S. lawmakers could yet block Washington’s plans to tax banks directly.

6. Australian debt - There's plenty of debt around in Australia. Maybe too much. Here's a useful chart from StubbornMule.net.

7. Confessions of an iron ore salesman - Stern Hu, the Australian citizen who represented Rio Tinto in iron ore sales negotiations in China, has admitted taking bribes in China, the Sydney Morning Herald reports.

Wallpaper to make your head hurt...with zebras HT Moggit


8. New Taxes - Edmund Conway at The Telegraph has suggested many developed economies will have to find new taxes to deal with the fiscal splurges of the last couple of years, along with higher interest rates and the coming pension and health care costs from the baby boomer blowouts. One such idea is stop people claiming interest payments as a taxable expense. Nice idea. Broad, clean and drives de-leveraging. Your view? HT Ross and Andrew via email.

Here’s a prediction: at some point in the next few years Britain, along with the US, and probably most developed economies, will radically overhaul the way we treat debt in the tax system. We will go from favouring debt – allowing companies to offset it against taxes, remove or raise taxes like capital gains tax – and start to squeeze up the taxes on debt interest.

The plans will at first be treated with horror and disdain by some companies, and understandably: the foundations of modern Anglo-Saxon corporate capitalism rest on the notion that one should not be charged taxes on debt interest. So this overhaul will be a gradual thing, but make no mistake, it will be one of the most profoundly important shifts in the way we run our economies in decades.

Now, this is only a prediction. I have had no hint or nudge from either of the main political parties that they are considering this move any time soon, but my suspicion is that this is the way the wind is set to blow. Indeed, George Osborne floated the idea of increasing taxes on debt interest in speech not so long ago.
In a sense it is striking that politicians haven’t yet pounced on this one. After all, (1) our tax system favours debt over equity (in other words, makes it more attractive for companies to raise cash by increasing their leverage), and (2) an immense debt bubble was one of the problems which led to the financial crisis. So I would be surprised if this didn’t become a big talking point in the not-too-distant future.

9. How to short America - Hard to believe, but there's now a healthy little market for people to buy Credit Default Swaps on US sovereign debt. The idea that the United States could default is almost unthinkable. Apparently some people are beginning to think it. Here's a nice Slate article. The key question is who would be left in the rubble to pay out the CDSes. When Lehman collapsed the US government paid out. If the US government collapsed, who would pay out? HT Greg out west via email.

In the long run, CDS only make sense as an asset class if they pay out in the event of default. This is why it's so curious that there is a market—albeit a small one—for credit default swaps on U.S. government debt. After all, if the U.S. government were to default, who would be able to pay the claims?

According to the Bureau of Public Debt, there is $8.15 trillion in U.S. government debt owned by the public. In addition, now that the United States has taken control of the failed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government is formally standing behind the debts of those two entities, which surpass $5 trillion. Now, let's imagine a world in which the U.S. government, lacking the will to tax or cut spending, can't scrape up the cash to stay current on interest payments and can't roll over debt as it matures.

That would trigger a huge decline in the value of treasuries and mortgage-backed securities. The balance sheet of every U.S. financial institution—JPMorgan, Goldman, Citi, your neighborhood bank, the Federal Reserve, money-market funds—would be decimated. There wouldn't be a single solvent bank, insurer, or company in the United States. The large multinational banks, which have significant U.S. operations and plenty of this stuff on their books, would likewise be wiped out. Oh, and foreign holders of U.S. debt—see this list topped by China and Japan—would be toast, too.

In this dystopia, who, precisely, would be able to make good on the insurance sold on U.S. government debt? The last time we had a set of events that were supposed to trigger large-scale payment of credit-default swaps, the system basically shut down. All the investors who bought insurance on financial instruments from AIG got paid off in full only because the U.S. government bailed the company out. Who would bail out the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve?

10. Totally irrelevant video - A cat is not sure what is happening...

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@9: Who would pay out

@9: Who would pay out if the US Govt failed?

The issue is not the quantum of debt that the US Govt has (and it wouldn't all fall due at the same time anyway) - clearly no-one could cover it all, but whether your own specific counter-party would survive and be able to pay YOU out.

Perhaps they should insure their CDS counter-party risk ;-)

@4:

Interesting that Berkshire Hathaway is considered lower risk than the US Govt though.

Alan.

@9 The CDS’s on USD

@9

The CDS’s on USD debt wouldn’t be worth the paper that was printed to look like the fictitious virtual paper it was originally printed on.

@Alan

#4 is the bond vigilantes shooting across the bow of the US’s debt ship.

The government is set to

The government is set to unveil its plans for a major overhaul of the welfare system.

This will be interesting.....a load of BS and spin or the begining of the end for the social welfare Elephant!

@Troy: I think you've rumbled

@Troy: I think you've rumbled them - if this was REAL currency that was actually printed on paper, then we'd be okay. Its all the virtual cash that is the issue!

Imaging the economic activity that would be generated if they were actually printing these in one dollar bills.

The forestry and paper industries would be thriving.

The ink manufacturers would be employing people and investing.

The mint would be paying wages.

I wonder if you haven't hit on the solution to all the world's problems - print more REAL money.

Hurrah - Troy has saved us!!

Alan.

@Alan Could you imagine if

@Alan

Could you imagine if you forced Governments to spend and print only in $1 denominations? The logistics would be so dear that they couldn’t possibly run a deficit. A trillion $1 bills would stack practically to the moon.

That will learn them

Im beginning to like depressions/recessions....it

Im beginning to like depressions/recessions....it clearly exposes the ponzi schemes by so many CEOs, owners, businesses and bankers who, the rabid right said, were worth their salaries.....funny but I haven't heard that line for a while now....

regards

#2 But wasn't the IMF

#2 But wasn't the IMF suggesting Europe set up it's own organised funder of last resort? So, clearly, the IMF hasn't got the capability to bailout perhaps even one or two of these economies.

So the fox in charge of the hen house - doesn't want to know about any more hens.

It might just be the catalyst that turns the tide in favour of the hens.

"print more REAL money." except

"print more REAL money."

except of course that uses crude oil even faster....

regards

@KAte: "favour of the hens."

@KAte: "favour of the hens." huh? isnt this what Greece was hoping for? a never ending bail out by Germany? because Im sure once we had the first load of money passing over they'd be back for more....and more.....no incentive to fix things if someone else is paying....hence the IMF makes sense....its outside the EU....Greece of course is going to go bye bye fast...riots, strikes more elections all to no avail....the ppl brought it on themselves.

regards

D'ya reckon Paula's going to

D'ya reckon Paula's going to be this brave, Wally?

"all public service salaries will be cut by an average of 13.5 per cent, with immediate effect…and will apply to frontline public workers in health, education, transport and local services and also to MPs, Ministers of State and the Attorney-General...."

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/03/22/ireland-imposes-real-cuts-on-b...

"The Government has announced it

"The Government has announced it will toughen criteria for people to receive a benefit.

Prime Minister John Key announced today that the Government would try to encourage beneficiaries to work with making policy changes to start in October.

The key changes are:

* Expectations of part-time work for single parents on the domestic purposes benefit when their child reaches six and for people on the sickness benefit deemed capable of part-time work.

* Allowing Work and Income case managers to cut benefits by half as a sanction, followed by a full suspension then a cancellation.

* Employment benefits limited to a year. Beneficiaries must reapply after a year with a comprehensive work assessment.

* More frequent assessments of people on a sickness benefit, with the first two medical assessments only good for four weeks each, and a compulsory reassessment after 12 months.

More to come."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10633815

steven - what I'm saying

steven - what I'm saying is I think I read soemwhere that if only two of those economies need a bailout - the IMF (the fox) will be broke - and I think this would be great news for the rest of the world (the hens).

In other words, it might force political leaders to abandon the Federal Reserve model
(Bretton Woods system) and go back to the drawing board on international monetary affairs/management.

Greece can't "fix" things, anymore than the US can "fix" things, or NZ for that matter, until we "change" things. And if in the meantime, NZ's leaders cannot rely on an IMF bailout... who knows, perhaps we'll lead the way in terms of that change.

Germany wants to throw Greece

Germany wants to throw Greece to the wolves eh? I agree with you Bernard. Perhaps the Euro was too ambitious an idea. It made sense to ally things, but throwing Greece out does head down the direction of whose worthwhile and not worthwhile. A deal needs to be done or the Euro turns to Eurotrash...
Good pointer on Stern Hu. If he is indeed telling the truth about taking bribes then I guess Governments and Media around the world owe China a bit of an apology. My take is, you do the crime, you do the time. I didn't realise Mr Hu was the head honcho for the Shanghai operations. It does not reflect well on Rio's operations. This event, however, may have shown who are China's friends and who are not.... You can't tell other countries how to do their business..

"print more real money" This

"print more real money"

This reminds me of a scene from The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy (the series/book, not the awful US-made movie). ... The Golgafincham's decide that 1/3 of their population is useless, and needs to be gotten rid of (there's a topic, but I digress), so they send them off into space in a ship, of course with the other 2/3 planet 'soon to follow'. Anyway, after many years of space flight the useless bunch happen to crash land on a planet, which as it turns out, is prehistoric Earth. They set up a community, and one of them, who is an economist declares the leaf, of which there are many, as the local currency. Everyone is immediately fabulously wealthy. Unfortunately, with the planet being covered in trees, there are a great many leaves and this results in an inflated money supply. The solution they come up with in order to save the currency is very clever; massive large scale and widespread deforestation.

@Martinv: I love those books

@Martinv:

I love those books (and the original radio show).

I had forgotten about the leaf-currency.

But hey! The 'Troy Solution' (as it has very recently become known) would involve deforestation on a massive scale, so looks like we've re-invented the wheel which justifies the idea perfectly!

Alan.

Mr Obvious: Just scrap the

Mr Obvious: Just scrap the DPB and similar benefits entirely, provide a universal benefit to everyone that wants it (irrespective of income or assets), and re-deploy all the people checking things at WINZ since the only check would become that you haven't claimed twice.

In one go, we've reduced the marginal rate of tax on the lowest paid in society from around 100% (depending on the rate at which benefits fall as income goes up) to less than 20%.

Mr Naive: Why isn't labour cheering this one on?

Mr Obvious: Because deep down inside many socialists (not all, but many) are actually very selfish, they don't really care about making the poor better off - they only want to make the rich poorer.

Mr Naive: Don't be ridiculous. That's just pure jealousy at work.

Mr Obvious: {Nods} Think about it - what would happen if poor people were better off? They'd stop voting labour, and move to the centre ground.

Mr Naive: So they just want to maintain their voting base and job security.

Mr Obvious: They wouldn't get any other job now would they!

@Kate: Agree....but be careful what

@Kate: Agree....but be careful what you wish for.....it comes around to the argument that the banks were to big to be allowed to fail. Really they should not have been allowed to get to big and then should have been nationalized to stop panic/collapse....so I totally agree, they should have collapsed but you and I at the bottom would have been left with no money for food as the entire Global financial system ceased to exist....that's chaos...

regards

And tightening up ACC. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/34

And tightening up ACC.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/3490797/ACC-rejecting-genuine-cla...

Maybe we'll get those tax cuts after all....

I was wondering if we

I was wondering if we could do away with currency all together and just use credit default swaps instead?

Talk about the end of

Talk about the end of Elephants, about time we got rid of this Property Investor Elephant once and for all; this imported debt monster has all but ruined our country.

Looking forward to the reporting season coming up and seeing how many companies are still carrying assets at fanciful book value and those who have got into the real world and revalued to today's value.

As for Stern Hu if he took any bribes he is not alone as corruption is part of business in China. Stern needs to admit to something so all can save face, get back to business as usual and come home within a few years. I would not be surprised if Rio pay a little "employee compensation" when Stern comes home.

@Sean: surely such a change

@Sean: surely such a change to realistic value would wipe ppl (savings etc) and companies out?

regards

It's just window dressing rc...the

It's just window dressing rc...the Sir Humphreys have made Turkeys of the clowns in the Beehive yet again. To implement Key's welfare cuts will mean many hundreds of extra 'frontline staff' and that means extra pay for fatcat beaurocrats at the top, some new offices and probably a few hundred million on another computer software system.

At last, someone else is

At last, someone else is realisiing the sacred cow is the non taxation of interest. Bread has GST but interest is sacred.

Steven, ain't that the truth.

Steven, ain't that the truth. My thoughts are that the commercial market is in far worse shape than the residential market. I just don't know how some are making it as the cost of having the doors open leaves between 4 and 5pm on Friday to make some profit.

steven, <i>but you and I

steven, but you and I at the bottom would have been left with no money for food as the entire Global financial system ceased to exist

That is only what the powers-that-be would like you to imagine the outcome would have been. Yes, the availability of money might have been disrupted for a spell - as it was in Argentina - and people started bartering.

As a nation made up largely of small business owners and farmers - NZ would fair okay (in my opinion) if barter was forced on the population for a period. The Government would set up emergency food distribution and lots of innovation in local trade would occur if access to bank accounts, were say, frozen for a time.

Most of our energy is provided by State-owned suppliers - so unlikely that energy or water would be cut off into the home. Similarly, public transport might be provided free-of-charge to keep local trade turning.

Sure, we would all start living what we can only imagine a third-world existence might be like, but I think NZers might start talking to and helping out their neighbours if we were plunged into a version of self-sufficiency for a period.

Kate, NZ is being cornered

Kate, NZ is being cornered by the current government, snookered by the previous one. And how are we to be led out of this hole? By digging some substantial ones in our national parks.

"I think NZers might start

"I think NZers might start talking to and helping out their neighbours if we were plunged into a version of self-sufficiency for a period"...fat chance Kate...the neighbours with the new car and boat and house who just came back from overseas holidays...those neighbours!

I would put money on more members of the public doing what the govt do all the time...thieving from those who saved.

Farmers everywhere will be stocking up on ammo and moving stock out of sight of the roads...Jimbo will need eyes in the back of his head to keep track of the steel and the sleepers that walk in the night...the copper on the Beehive roof will peel back like banana skin.

@9 the government won't default

@9 the government won't default the Fed will just buy all the debt like it did recently. They can always print their way out of anything.

@Alan I'm all in favor

@Alan

I'm all in favor of the Leaf-currency solution. I hate trees anyway since they keep moving in front of cars!

BTW Do the voices in your head have different accents?

An $88 million welfare reform

An $88 million welfare reform package has been announced by the Government today to push beneficiaries into work. WINZ expected to need an extra 5000 staff to cope with frontline assessments and plans on hiring beneficiaries due to their greater experience in working the systems.

Oil reserves 'exaggerated by one

Oil reserves 'exaggerated by one third'
The world's oil reserves have been exaggerated by up to a third, according to Sir David King, the Government's former chief scientist, who has warned of shortages and price spikes within years.

Good time to buy gas stations and oil refineries. Not.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7500669...

Wally please tell me that

Wally please tell me that is your dry wit at work there - and not what actually has been announced!

Well, it isn't Monty Python

Well, it isn't Monty Python but it is an increase in Government spending to the tune of $88million under the guise of "Welfare Reform". Unbelievable;

The costs of the changes, through new loans, increases to abatement thresholds and staffing costs, would be $88 million, Ms Bennett said, but Mr Key suggested there would be savings of almost $200 million over the next 10 years just by helping one in 20 single parents with a youngest child older than six into work.

So, borrow a further $88m (a year, I assume?) at interest - in order to (possibly) get a return over 10 years of $200m?

Yes, John Key is definitely a banker.

Deflation here, or just around

I wonder how the USA

I wonder how the USA recovery from the subprime-credit-crisis would have been handled if Barack Obama had given Warren Buffett the job of Treasurey Secretary , instead of Timmy , the guy from Southpark . Timmy ! Timmy !!! Timmeeeeeeee !

Re: oil figures exagerrated by

Re: oil figures exagerrated by a third - it seems the message is finally starting to get through (at least in the UK). This week the UK energy minister had a meeting with top industrialists about peakoil:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/21/peak-oil-summit

quick straw poll time then

quick straw poll time then people. will the new resource utlisation policies of our govt result in headlines like this:

The black marketeers stealing Indonesia’s islands by the boat-load
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7071243.ece
or this:
The country that's got it all - but is still saving for tomorrow
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006/may/20/moneysupplement2

#9 you can't buy a

#9 you can't buy a CDS to cover a USD default.

If you want to short the USD there is only two ways to do it. Which involves buying either Gold and Silver and TAKING PHYSICAL delivery. A gold ETF will be worth $0.

Another very good short for the USD involves a gun and plenty of ammo. In fact the gun and plenty of ammo is probably the best USD short :)

Those two peak oil articles

Those two peak oil articles have something in common - they're not telling us anything new,and they're telling us stuff that wasn't 'new' 20 years ago. Dig that hogwash about it 'only coming to light via the IEA last year! I've been hassling about it - on record - since '86. And I was parroting stuff written 15-25 years earlier than that.

Spare me, media....

Greg out west - if the five-year lead-time mentioned is true, think about the Richard Branson appraisal re peak oil - that mining will be well down the priority list. Probably won't happen.

Branson puts it very well:

Sir Richard Branson, founder of the Virgin Group, whose rail, airline and travel companies are sensitive to energy prices, warned then that the coming crisis could surpass the credit crunch. "The next five years will see us face another crunch: the oil crunch. This time, we do have the chance to prepare. The challenge is to use that time well," he said.

This guvmint is not in his intellectual class.

Bernard, it's always worth <b><a

Bernard, it's always worth reading Spengler (David Goldman) - his thesis is that the US zombie finance chain depends on a carry trade (no Japanese housewives in 'er, this time, but), and this in turn depends on ZIRP. He thinks that the first hint of raised interest rates by a significant central bank will set the dominoes a'tumbling. And guess what India has just done...

Greg out West, well who'd

Greg out West, well who'd you rather be Indonesia or Norway? For a start look at the population difference, actually that's pretty much all you need to know.

Share up the divvies between four million or four hundred million and see what you've got.
I can't understand the Aussies wanting 100,000 immigrants per year, completely mental.

Branson is describing the pickle

Branson is describing the pickle quite accurately, actually a no-brainer .......REALLY.

If we can find oil here it may oil the wheels of commerce for a few more years.

Even make a buck or two selling it to the Chinese to keep their Great Wheel of China...Commerce a-grinding..

Other-wise we might need to invest in sailing ships and gliders ourselves. ...in tandem...oh...and them too...of course..

They do not yet make electric planes in China surprisingly and thankfully.

(Not that I would like to rely on that shon-key lot. Have you seen the wheels come off their bikes & M/cycles, appart-ments and mines..etc and dam their political expedience).

Crafar may get their CHINOISE bail-out.

The poor cows may be bailed-up for the rest of their natural....but I personally do not want to be be-holden to a regime of that un-kind.

The rest of my natural I would prefer to live simply, but hone-stly, rather than under a bail-out by anyone of their ILK.

I personally do not THINK that M-ILK is that dire...though it does keep our farmers in debt.

The NATIONAL interest may not be in the NATIONAL interest....if ya get my drift.

Damned if we do.....dam-ed if we don't.

"Maid" in China is an almost certain ......DEATH SENTENCE....we certainly do not need to import that mantra....any-more than we have to.

I know we have to kow-tow....cos we are as poor as church mice...but their are limits as to how far we have to go.

IMPORTS are NOT always the best way to go, even to save are-souls. (ah phonetics).

THANK YOU.....

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