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Top 10 at 10: Exodus revealed; Russian debt fears; Dubai chicken games; US default predicted; Dilbert

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Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10am. I welcome your additions and comments below or please email your suggestions for Thursday's Top 10 at 10 to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz Our choices are never sub optimal. Dilbert.com 1. The Exodus - Simon Collins at NZHerald picks up on a couple of studies that appear to show that not only are our best and brightest going to Australia, but also our less skilled, more manual workers. It seems the most skilled NZ migrants go to Europe and the United States. One in seven Maori now live in Australia, compared with one in eight non-Maori New Zealanders. 24% of all tertiary educated New Zealanders now live overseas, an OECD study in 2005 found. When are our politicians going to see an urgent problem to be dealt with? Or will we see our young continue to vote quietly with  one-way tickets.

The two new studies appear to confirm what Mary Power, a professor at Bond University in Queensland, described as a common Australian "myth" that Kiwi migrants tend to be less skilled than average. But the experts do not know whether Australia is more attractive to the less skilled, or whether they go there only because they can't get in to other countries. More highly skilled migrants tend to go to the United States or Europe.

2. Cracking graphic - The New York Times has produced this great graphic of where the sovereign debt timebombs might be hiding. Greece looks much uglier than Dubai. Click on the graphic for a bigger version. HT David via email.

3. Who's next? - The New York Times' Graham Bowley and Catherine Rampell have written an excellent piece on the weight of debt dragging on the global economy and how Dubai's debt problems have refocused attention on the connection between governments and apparently government-backed corporates. Dubai has now cut loose Dubai World, shocking those who thought it was government backed. Russia is most exposed and 'spreads' measuring the risk for corporates vs government debt is rising rapidly.

The most troubling case in Russia is Rusal, the world's largest aluminum company, which owes $16 billion and has been in a standstill on repayment this year while dealing with creditors. A subsidiary of a Russian state aircraft manufacturer defaulted on bonds last autumn despite a presumed sovereign guarantee. In Ukraine, the state energy company, Naftogaz, and a state railroad, have restructured or asked to restructure their debt. "This was a trail that was blazed in this part of the world," said Rory MacFarquhar, an economist at Goldman Sachs in Moscow, referring to governments retreating from implied guarantees of state company debt, as in the case of Dubai World. The Dubai World debt restructuring is already lifting borrowing costs for Russian companies that must repay a total of $20 billion in December, according to Vladimir Tikhomirov, chief economist of UralSib bank in Moscow.

4. Dubai vs Abu Dhabi - It seems Abu Dhabi is playing a big game of chicken with Dubai, while Dubai is itself playing a game of chicken with Dubai World, the New York Times reported. HSBC, Standard Chartered and Barclays are owed a combined US$28 billion. Good luck with that. No doubt some high priced UAE lawyers are about to make a killing.

After Dubai World, the chief investment vehicle for Dubai, set off turmoil in global markets last week, many traders and bankers here had been expecting a reassuring statement from the federal government in Abu Dhabi aimed at stemming unease. Instead, there was a deafening silence, setting off further speculation about a possible rift between this struggling city-state and oil-rich Abu Dhabi. Insiders said Abu Dhabi "” which bailed out Dubai to the tune of $10 billion earlier this year "” might be seeking greater economic or even political control over Dubai as the price of additional succor. As if underscoring the difficult negotiations over rescheduling the debt, the Dubai government reiterated on Monday that it would not guarantee the debt. Although investors knew that Dubai did not officially guarantee the company's debt, the emirate does own Dubai World, and many here have counted on it to guarantee the entity's debts in an emergency. Now that so much of the holdings of Dubai World, mostly real estate, have gone south, niceties like who is legally liable for those loans matter here like never before.

5. Matt Nolan at TVHE has a bone or three (10 actually) to pick with Rod Oram's column in the Sunday Star Times about the need for monetary policy reform. Here's the conclusion.

Ultimately, we can make a case for a change in prudential regulation and tax policy in New Zealand on the basis of our completely different assumptions. However, I don't agree with the blame you have placed on the shoulders of the OCR. Monetary policy is being blamed for a bunch of bad policy both domestically and internationally, blame it does not deserve. It is receiving the blame because it can't really answer back for itself. So lets sit down and try to figure out the real issues that could be hurting New Zealanders, instead of running with the monetary policy scapegoat.

6. It's an emergency - Paul Krugman, who is watched closely by Barack Obama's White House, has made an impassioned plea in the New York Times for an emergency jobs programme in the United States. I like putting the e on the end of program for a US story. Obama is holding a jobs summit on Friday.

It's time for at least a small-scale version of the New Deal's Works Progress Administration, one that would offer relatively low-paying (but much better than nothing) public-service employment. There would be accusations that the government was creating make-work jobs, but the W.P.A. left many solid achievements in its wake. And the key point is that direct public employment can create a lot of jobs at relatively low cost. In a proposal to be released today, the Economic Policy Institute, a progressive think tank, argues that spending $40 billion a year for three years on public-service employment would create a million jobs, which sounds about right. Finally, we can offer businesses direct incentives for employment. It's probably too late for a job-conserving program, like the highly successful subsidy Germany offered to employers who maintained their work forces. But employers could be encouraged to add workers as the economy expands. The Economic Policy Institute proposes a tax credit for employers who increase their payrolls, which is certainly worth trying.

7. A bit whiffy - Marla Singer at Zero Hedge has an interesting and detailed piece about AIG that includes a warning that the US Federal Reserve is facing margin calls by struggling European banks. There is a bit of a whiff of a conspiracy theory buried in there, which I'm always wary of. That's because I'm a cock up theorist rather than a conspiracy theorist. But it's a good read and the detail is curiously worrying.

Will the Fed post collateral if deteriorating credit conditions at AIG (today's -$11 billion insurance default fear news suddenly seems especially daunting if the potential insurance shortfall has an effect on credit ratings) or general credit market issues require it? Or are we missing something significant? By September 30, 2008 AIG had already posted $974 million in collateral for its "Foreign Regulatory Capital" portfolio. What if European banks are hit with more losses from, oh, we don't know, say... Dubai? Deleveraging, risk reduction and credit tightening would have an effect on LIBOR, the Eurobond market and, of course, Eastern Europe. Might not that sort of contagion easily spread to, say, Switzerland, which enjoyed the other side of the carry trade for years by lending Swiss Franc like mad to any Eastern European mortgage borrower who could sign documents? Could it be that the Fed, once again, might have to bail out the world?

8. US default prediction - 'DailyWealth' at The Market Oracle points out the startling fact that the United States needs to borrow US$3.5 trillion next year (30% of US GDP) to roll over short term debt raised this year and pay for next year's deficit. Who will pay? A default is guaranteed, according to a formula from Alan Greenspan (!) HT Troy Barsten via email.

How did we end up with so much short-term debt? Like most entities that have far too much debt "“ whether subprime borrowers, GM, Fannie, or GE "“ the U.S. Treasury has tried to minimize its interest burden by borrowing for short durations and then "rolling over" the loans when they come due. As they say on Wall Street, "a rolling debt collects no moss." What they mean is, as long as you can extend the debt, you have no problem. Unfortunately, that leads folks to take on ever greater amounts of debt... at ever shorter durations... at ever lower interest rates. Sooner or later, the creditors wake up and ask themselves: What are the chances I will ever actually be repaid? And that's when the trouble starts. Interest rates go up dramatically. Funding costs soar. The party is over. Bankruptcy is next. When governments go bankrupt, it's called a "default." Currency speculators figured out how to accurately predict when a country would default. Two well-known economists "“ Alan Greenspan and Pablo Guidotti "“ published the secret formula in a 1999 academic paper. The formula is called the Greenspan-Guidotti rule. The rule states: To avoid a default, countries should maintain hard currency reserves equal to at least 100% of their short-term foreign debt maturities. The world's largest money-management firm, PIMCO, explains the rule this way: "The minimum benchmark of reserves equal to at least 100% of short-term external debt is known as the Greenspan-Guidotti rule. Greenspan-Guidotti is perhaps the single concept of reserve adequacy that has the most adherents and empirical support." The principle behind the rule is simple. If you can't pay off all of your foreign debts in the next 12 months, you're a terrible credit risk. Speculators are going to target your bonds and your currency, making it impossible to refinance your debts. A default is assured. So how does America rank on the Greenspan-Guidotti scale? It's a guaranteed default.

9. Seven stories Barack Obama doesn't want told - This is a bit off the beaten track, but entertaining nevertheless. John Harris at Politico has some insight into the problems Barack Obama is having convincing Americans he's a good president. Essentially, they now think he spends their money on rich Wall St types, loves himself, can't empathise with real Americans, is surrounded by mates from Chicago and is less effective than Nancy Pelosi. I reckon Obama is a liar and a fool. The more I see of his actions, the more certain I am about this.

It's a common theme of Washington buzz that Obama is over-exposed. He gives interviews on his sports obsessions to ESPN, cracks wise with Leno and Letterman, discusses his fitness with Men's Health, discusses his marriage in a joint interview with first lady Michelle Obama for The New York Times. A photo the other day caught him leaving the White House clutching a copy of GQ featuring himself.

10. Utterly irrelevant video - Bohemian rhapsody is butchered again in this 'Bohemian bankruptcy - a Tragedy by Drag Queen'. 'Any way the cash flows doesn't make a difference to me...to me'. HT Eva via the Rates Blog.

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Good to see sovereigns walking

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Good to see sovereigns walking away from their commercial enterprises, it will make creditors think twice about lending to government owned entities. I can't see what trouble the world financial markets could get in if some government owned firm defaults. The creditors take their losses and the world moves on, investors get wiser. No dominos other than other entities who should have got into trouble long before now.

"So how does America rank

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"So how does America rank on the Greenspan-Guidotti scale? "

How does NZ? Anyone better at maths than I?

No. 1. Crikey, it is

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No. 1. Crikey, it is worse than i thought. 24% of tertiary graduates overseas! It is certainly a massive problem in Nelson. My son pointed out to me that the average intelligence of 18 to 45 year olds in Nelson is low. 45 plus is high. In contrast to Wellington where there are lots of bright young things.

It is a scary problem. No wonder we have such a lame ability to generate exciting new business concepts. The impetuous and bright are not here. I thought it was a peculiarly Nelson problem.

A poser leading a bigger

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A poser leading a bigger bunch of posers, just like our own unfortunate choices for Change.

Idiots one and all.

What changes, nothing, except MAGNITUDE.

Bigger debt, bigger problems, bigger failures.

All change no change.

Haha that video in #10

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Haha that video in #10 rocks! ROFL

#10 - Nice guitar in

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#10 - Nice guitar in that clip.
Gibson SG, Heritage Cherry.
Trev would be a happy man if Santa delivered that baby on the 25th!!

<b>CLIMATEGATE LATEST</b> <b>A first? Climategate

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CLIMATEGATE LATEST

A first? Climategate enabled political shift in Australia "“ warmist replaced with sceptic
http://neuralnetwriter.cylo42.com/node/2421?page=9#comment-2339

and the next post.
The following post is titled "Associated Press Still Ignores Climategate".

Maybe not a good source of information Bernard.

#10 - A Slightly better

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#10 - A Slightly better version of Bohenian Rhapsody...>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9jrBg4Lwc

and a great lesson to boot...

5# " A more stable

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5# " A more stable exchange rate means more volatile prices for exporters "
I don't follow that logic , at all.

So I am not alone

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So I am not alone in encouraging my daughters (both) to work in Singapore or HK...
Long term I think it is better than OZ....Seems like they will follow my footpath...
Work in Asia and retire in NZ...but by the time they return ....wonder what it will be like.

It's high time the world get real about "sovereign" debt...The idea that "a country cannot go bankrupt" has already been proven false. The South americans do it regularly..but the US Govt always intervene to save their lenders (mostly US Banks) and so the problem gets swept under the carpet. Perhaps this time around the US is no longer in position to intervene that we will see the real result of "sovereign" default.

@8, the US by definition cannot default...because it's debt is in it's own currency, all it needed to do is "print and pay"...which is why GOLD is rising....even in this latest Dubai scare the dollar barely crept up while the Yen soar....Gold is up again after one day retracement...so much for trust in the US.

@9 Obama is not American...he's a Manchurian

Just in: Professor Phil Jones

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Just in:

Professor Phil Jones has today announced that he will stand aside as Director of the Climatic Research Unit until the completion of an independent Review resulting from allegations following the hacking and publication of emails from the Unit.

same thread.

Yes we have us an

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Yes we have us an exodus....remember the days when some sod asked for the last out to turn off the light...they're baaaaaaack..no worries for the spin merchants in the Beehive..they can work miracles with spin...solve all the problems..hide all the rorts...I expect them to start telling us the exodus is great because it reduces the number on the dole..cuts the number on WFF and best of all they will be sending back money..

Steve....good website, hope that the

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Steve....good website, hope that the Aussie intelligence rubs off here.

@1: Pretty much what I

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@1: Pretty much what I thought....so the less skilled go and are less likely to return...so this is bad how?

Skilled and professionals leave but are more likely to return to have children I would guess.

This mirrors my experience and view.

There I think also a fixation with people leave for the money...usually claimed by ppl who have fixations with money. My experience and view is ppl leave for many reasons, $ maybe but the "wider world" broader life experiences and more "excitement" seem bigger pulls. Later when they age and start to see the crowding, crime filth and other dis-advantages of "exciting" places they dont want to stay and have their children there....

regards

"those with mortgages paid less

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"those with mortgages paid less in interest (down 2.8 per cent) and principal repayments (down 7.1 per cent)" Brian Fallow(herald)...now what do you think it suggests when households had to reduce principal repayments even when interest rates fell.....

And this in The Age

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And this in The Age today following Westpac's rate raising across the Tas...."Banks say they face substantial wholesale funding headaches, particularly in offshore markets still ravaged by the global financial crisis. As well, the cost of short-term funds has crept back up in recent months on rising expectations of official Australian interest rates ratcheting higher".....and the longer the RBNZ plays the game of being last to the starting gate..the higher it will have to raise the ocr...back to the future anyone?

At last we see a

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At last we see a man standing up against this climate change hysteria. God on Tony Abbott. Pity Nick Smith and his cohorts did not have the gonads to stand up to John Key and the Maori Party. I see Key has given away $90,000,000 of our money over the next 3 years just for starters and also God only knows the final amount that has been given to the Maoris.Of the $90,000,000 I would like to know the following: Who gets the money? Where does it end up? Who takes a cut along the way?Will it end up buying arms for African dictators etc? I reckon that the UN is corrupt, always has been and is just a burden on the world. Mind you one of the best wealth redistributers in the world, Helen Clark will be in nirvana and knee deep in this crap. Meanwhile back here in NZ I hear that The Warehouse have told all their suppliers that they will not be paying their accounts for 2 months instead of the usual 1 month.If you dont like it just let them know and they will get a new supplier. Lets concentrate on the problems here in NZ Mr Key!!!

#8 USA will never default

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#8 USA will never default on its debt. They will print the money and pay it off. And they are entitled to do so.

#10. Very good. Bernard, why

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#10. Very good. Bernard, why do you think Obama is a fool and a liar? Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity say the same thing. If you are right that will be the final straw that breaks the USA.

@Steve Netwriter - Fantastic work

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@Steve Netwriter - Fantastic work on the climate gate thread. A voice of moderate reason in choopy waters full of wacko conspiracy theorists! Guys - go and have a look if you haven't already - one of our own is making a global contribution to this debate and posting like a madman to boot....

And now something to make

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And now something to make many steam!!
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=19693

<blockquote> #8 USA will never

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#8 USA will never default on its debt. They will print the money and pay it off. And they are entitled to do so.

Hmmm. Chris Martenson is predicting the US will default.

http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/adjustable-rate-nation/32190

You have to be an enrolled member to see the whole article. What is available for everyone is

US government borrowing has tilted heavily to short-term, adjustable-rate issues.
The very same people who missed the housing crisis have largely ignored or overlooked the current US predicament.
The US government lacks any sort of fiscal restraint. And there's never a good time to cut back.
It has been operating like a subprime, cash-poor borrower, electing to borrow more and more.
The short-term debt used to finance the Treasury Department must be "rolled over" when it comes due, imposing whatever the new interest rate happens to be at that time.
This will trigger a debt spiral, which will cause the US government to go from being insolvent (its current predicament) to bankruptcy (its future condition).
A bankrupt nation has few options, little hope, and a lot of regrets.
To protect against the fallout, buy gold, silver, and productive assets that generate the things people need.

"24% of all tertiary educated

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"24% of all tertiary educated New Zealanders now live overseas, an OECD study in 2005 found.
"

WOW. Would be interested what the percentage of tertiary educated people under 40 would be overseas????? Surely the number can only grow if the proportion is higher among the young.

How many immigrant to NZ

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How many immigrant to NZ are tertiary educated? I would assume a similar number to the 24% who leave?

I'm with you Gibber...now where

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I'm with you Gibber...now where did I hide that kilo of gold yesterday..or was it the day before....I think it was a kilo...dam where's my ...ahrm err..oh yeah pills..why did I want the pills?...and who or what is a Gibber?

''There is investment demand for

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''There is investment demand for gold from everywhere,'' said Frank Lesh, a trader at FuturePath Trading LLC in Chicago. ''The (US) dollar has pushed gold to new highs. Gold is in an uptrend, and there is no sign that the trend will stop.''The Age. ....just thought you folks might want to know!!

@Trev: me too...nice...settled for a

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@Trev: me too...nice...settled for a second hand Korean one for now, that way I can take up busking if this all goes to custard

Think I'd buy a Langcaster though if I was going to spend that much on say a real SG.

@10: love it....best giggle so far today.

regards

@Wally: Gold is almost touching

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@Wally: Gold is almost touching $1200....wonder how high its going....3.5T for next year, guess $1500 is possible.

regards

@Alex: Non aussies coming in

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@Alex: Non aussies coming in have to be mostly degree plus I would assume (I had to be)...

regards

I agree with PK, if

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I agree with PK, if jobs are that essential then huge action is needed now....but I agree even more with Bernard, Obama is proving himself by his [in-]actions (so here comes the second dip in 2010)....just a fool, a court jester even. He had so much promise to actually fix things and has enough voters votes and seats to carry out his mandates....maybe he should be impeached.

regards

@Chris B if this is

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@Chris B if this is your idea of a moderate, well that lays you out as far out.

regards

steven..just read the Bloomberg report

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steven..just read the Bloomberg report out and the USDollar is predicted to keep falling which means gold will keep rising. The long term picture is clouded by that nutcase madjad in Iran. Pity about the moderates in that hellhole. The Russian risk is the big bad bear out there. A criminal state run by a mafia. Massive stupendous bloated debts...at least they have the Siberian goldfields to exploit..

Great, Gold keeps rising........ as

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Great, Gold keeps rising........ as does the NZ Dollar......... so my gold in NZ dollar terms.........oh

@Sam_M That is not necessarily

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@Sam_M

That is not necessarily true. Most precious metals are only at 50% of there relative peaks in terms of NZD/Gold ratios. The USD can still gather strength with central banks buying T-Bills while gold increases as a hedge against Sovereign Default . I see this happening quite a bit over the next few months. So if the kiwi hits $0.80 I see no reason why silver can't still be around $22-25/oz. That is still a win-win.

Gold up solidly over the

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Gold up solidly over the US$1200/oz mark ($1209)
Plenty bad ju ju building up.
What happens when this equity bubble punctures?
Look out below if there is no run to the "safety"of the $US - equities down, dollar down, interest rates, gold and oil up and Ben printing like a maniac.

quote: # Kirsty Says: December

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quote:

# Kirsty Says:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
Steve"¦.good website, hope that the Aussie intelligence rubs off here.
endquote

Thanks, so do I :)

quote
# Chris B Says:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am

@Steve Netwriter "“ Fantastic work on the climate gate thread. A voice of moderate reason in choopy waters full of wacko conspiracy theorists! Guys "“ go and have a look if you haven't already "“ one of our own is making a global contribution to this debate and posting like a madman to boot"¦.

Thanks Chris. I agree totally with the "madman to boot" :)

I suspect you will find

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I suspect you will find Ben and Timmy will hold the Indians off as long as possible David. The gold rise has only just begun. Beware the players who want to cause a drop so they can buy in. Pimco had the cheek to suggest punters buy bonds...nice for those who own the Dubai bonds! Many who say they called the collapse in 08, still cling to their call to avoid equties in 09. Granted the market is way up there, but the only option is leave your dosh in the bank and lose most of it in a collapse or be a friend of Ben's and buy a Treasury promise to pay you back less than you hand over. Of course you could buy property...some cheap stuff going in Dubai. Hey..you might even risk buying Kiwi.

"North Korea redenominated its currency

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"North Korea redenominated its currency for the first time in 50 years and limited how much old money could be traded for new, likely wiping out millions of residents' savings and much of the cash used in market activities frowned upon by its authoritarian government." (wall st J.) just think of saving up all those Won and in a flash the whole lot's gone...haaaaaaaarhaaaahaahaaaha....your 1000 won becomes 10. I wonder if Alan will see any merit in this...could be good for a study trip to NK for someone in the RBNZ....any takers?

Re anthropogenic global warming, I

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Re anthropogenic global warming, I recommend that everyone take the time to watch this:

The Great Global Warming Swindle -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5576670191369613647#

We still need to address our unsustainable ways, but we sure don't need to fund non-soverign global government.

Re tertiary qualified Kiwis moving to OZ, has anyone noticed what it takes to get a tertiary qualification these days? I'd not worry too much.

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Alex Says at 12:14 pm

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Alex Says at 12:14 pm

How many immigrant to NZ are tertiary educated? I would assume a similar number to the 24% who leave?

Why don't you ask a taxi driver the next time you take a cab?

As long as we bring

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As long as we bring in quality (rich?) migrants, the exodus doesn't matter much. People going for their OE will eventually come back with more money and experience to contribute to NZ again.

For the serious student who

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For the serious student who has an attention span greater than that of a 1yr old:
http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2009/12/01/opinion-gareth-...

Yes- the young and educated

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Yes- the young and educated are leaving in droves. The truth is that NZ doesn't like intellectuals, and I think this attitude drives the young/educated away as much as the lack of money/job opportunities. This does not bode well for the future of this country. And as the country becomes stupider and stupider the loss of people who can think will accelerate. A stupid electorate will vote in stupid governments- who with any brains will be able to stand to live here. Such a shame- NZ has so many wonderful natural resources but in the end short sighted policies will destroy this country.

And btw You don't need to be tertiary educated to get into NZ. I know of somone who got in as a teachers aide for special needs children. Surely any Nzer can do this job? I live in an immigration hot spot- from what I see the government has been letting in just about anyone who can speak english (and even the english speaking part of it is going now if you have $500,000). The quality of the people coming in idoes not seem to match the quality of the people we are losing.

Well <b>observered</b> : NZ doesn't

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Well observered : NZ doesn't like intellectuals , which is why I feel so at home here . Australia also , doesn't like intellectuals , which may be why they encouraged me to leave , in 1999 .

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