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Opinion: Housing bubbles: Learning from Houston (updated)
By Hugh Pavletich Updated to include hyperlinks. Mid last year, the satirical website, The Onion, pleaded for "just one more bubble" in "Recession-Plagued Nation Demands New Bubble To Invest In''. A vain hope"¦"¦"¦"¦ Recently Mr Koyo Oseki, executive vice president and head of Asian credit research of Pimco, wrote a most informative article Outlook for Global Finance where he discusses the Japanese Bubble of 1989 and the lessons that can be learnt from that experience. Mr Oseki is very clear in explaining the behavior of housing bubbles and the limited ability of governments to arrest the inevitable process of bubbles deflating. He states "“
"The only cures for asset deflation (mainly real estate assets) are a recovery in property demand via expectations of economic growth and improvement in asset operating profitability. This may sound like a tautology, but in a situation where the economy continues to retreat amid a financial crisis, demand for real estate will not recover until a severe enough drop in prices significantly reduces the downside risk of holding property." "In Japan's case it took 15 years for real estate prices to hit bottom, and it is unlikely that earlier government action might have halted the slide at a higher level. Even if it could have shortened the process and duration of the crisis, the government probably could not have prevented the drop in prices. That is, while government and central bank initiatives, such as liquidity provisions and outright purchases of securitized product, can help temper the disarray in financial markets, there are limits to government's ability to prevent deterioration in the real estate market." The 2009 5th edition Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey, which surveys the 6 countries and 265 major urban markets of the English speaking world, is a useful guide in assessing the extent of the housing bubbles of specific urban markets. Housing should not exceed three times gross annual household incomes. If this does occur - it is a sure sign that there are governance and regulatory failures at the local level - that must be dealt with. This years Demographia Survey identified 87 affordable markets "“ 77 of them in the United States and 10 in Canada. Currently "“ there are none in the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. One of the major affordable urban markets is Greater Houston, an economic powerhouse with near 5.8 million people. This year's Demographia Survey (September quarter 2008 data) found the median house price was $US160,200 with a median gross annual household income of $US55,000, so housing was 2.9 times household income at this time. The September Quarter median house price was a peak as illustrated by the latest Houston Association of Realtors (HAR) Monthly Report, noting that in January 2008, single family homes were $US139,720 and January 2009 $US127,850. Houston has not been immune to the "sub prime slime" "“ and as the latest HAR Report states - it is this factor that's pulling the medians down as the foreclosure stock is being cleared. Houston cannot avoid the fallout from the sheer destruction created by the bubble markets, both within the United States and elsewhere "“ but is in a strong position to withstand the worst of it, as illustrated within this Dallas Federal Reserve Reports of January 2008 and May 2008. Understandably - conditions have eased as outlined within Dallas Fed Houston Update December 2008. US Builder magazine in conjunction with the construction industry researchers Hanley Wood "“ rate Houston the healthiest residential construction market within a recent EcoHome magazine article The Healthiest Housing Markets for 2009. In assessing housing markets the magazine states "“ "To compile these lists, we analyzed the top 75 housing markets in the country. We ranked them based on population trends and job growth, perennial drivers of housing demand. We also examined what's happened with house prices, many of the healthiest markets have managed to hold the line on home values. And finally we considered the rate of building permits, which may be the single best ongoing indicator of builder confidence in a market". The article states that Houston is the "largest home building market in the country" with 42,697 building permits through 2008. The US National Association of Home Builders January 2009 Report State and Local Data: Housing Starts and Building Permits provides detailed data of permitting activity throughout the United States. In assessing permitting activity "“ the best measure is permits per 1000 population. This would suggest that Houston with a population approaching 5.8 million and 42,697 permits had 7.36 permits / 1000 population through 2008. A remarkable achievement, with US bubble markets collapsing. To illustrate "“ if the US overall with its population of 305 million achieved Houston's permitting rate of 7.36 / 1000 "“ 2.244 million new residential permits would have been issued nationally through 2008. At the other end of the spectrum is the "epicenter of the global financial crisis" "“ California "“ where, with a population of 37 million, just 61,220 new residential permits were issued through 2008 "“ a permitting rate of 1.65 / 1000. That's just 22% of the Houston rate on a per thousand population basis. If the United States was issuing new residential permits at the California rate of 1.65 / 1000 "“ just 503,250 permits would have been issued throughout 2008 Throughout 2008 there were 893,000 permits issued and for 2007 - 1.380, 000 permits issued . The latest report from the US Department of Commerce as reported by Bloomberg indicates that permits across the country have nearly reached 2008 California levels at 521,000 on an annual basis. Recently "“ Metrostudy, a leading US construction industry researcher expressed the view that government projections on residential permits were too high (refer Metrostudy Calls Housing Starts Forecasts Too High). For Australia to be permitting at the Houston rate of 7.36 / 1000 at its 2008 rate "“ it would need to reach 154,560; New Zealand 31,648; United Kingdom 448,960; Canada 242,880 and the Republic of Ireland 32,384 residential building permits annually. Policymakers in bubble markets only have too choices "“ Either "“ negligently stand idly by, allowing their construction industries and general employment to collapse "“ and with it "“ tax revenues. Or - learn from Houston and Texas "“ fast. * Hugh Pavletich runs Performance Urban Planning
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WOW ! ! Hugh, 2.9
WOW ! ! Hugh, 2.9 times annual income ??
You bet all the dart boards in the offices of the FIRE (Finance Insurance Real Estate)
industry will have your face on it ! !
But then again, you said the hard truth many Kiwis don't want to know.....
Forbes America’s 25 Strongest Housing
Forbes America's 25 Strongest Housing Markets
January 8, 2009
"Texas markets are most set to benefit. Housing values were rising in many Lone Star State towns until oil futures collapsed and agricultural commodity prices fell. But the bottom doesn't look very deep. Moody's forecasts no change for McAllen and a fall of less than 3% for Dallas, Fort Worth, El Paso, San Antonio and Houston.
"Texas has the best large-state economy in the country right now," says Zandi. "Employment is slowing, but its still growing."
http://www.searchsahomes.net/forbes-americas-25-strongest-housing-markets/
1. Houston, Texas
2008 Total Building Permits: 42,697
"The healthiest markets have many things in common. Most of them are great places to live, either close to the ocean, mountains, or major universities. Most of them didn't have a huge run-up in prices during the boom and aren't experiencing rampant deflation during the bust."
"They like to do things big in Houston. Now the metro area, home to nearly 5.8 million people, can lay claim to being the largest home building market in the country, with 42,697 building permits. The market is still benefiting from an influx of population and jobs and rebuilding in the wake of Hurricane Ike. Employment rose 2.2 percent last year, representing the addition of an incredible 57,000 jobs. Home building activity in Houston has only fallen 31 percent since 2005. Also, existing home prices actually rose in Houston last year, 2.8 percent, to $160,200, still a very affordable level"
http://www.builderonline.com/local-markets/the-healthiest-housing-market...
My apologies for the important
My apologies for the important hyperlinks not being included within the above article. No doubt the busy bees at Interest Co NZ will address this Wednesday morning.
Hugh Pavletich
Houston is a completly flat
Houston is a completly flat city of 5.9 million with a population of 280 million sorounding it. The Country of NZ is very hilly with only 4 million and sorounded by water, comparisons are a bit lopsided don't you think. Houstons population has grown by around 130,000 a year since 2000, with 45,000 new dwellings/year thats 2.8 people per dwelling.
NZ has grown by 35,000/year and we build around 25000 new dwellings each year, thats 1.4 people per dwelling. We are better than Houston in supplying new housing.
The population growth in NZ is declining. In 6 years population is forcast to grow by only 30,000. With current occupation rates of 2.1 people/dwelling we only need to increase dwelling numbers by 15,000/year, thats 10,000 less than in 2007 The construction industry is in decline because we simply do not have the population growth to support it.
It really gets me thinking
It really gets me thinking outside the square, this crisis has seen America lose 3 million Jobs, China 20 million and who knows how many through europe, all because the basic fundamental of property median value not exceeding 3 * median income, is the benchmark of a healthy micro economy.
It seams so logically correct, that as obvious as it is, the prospect of NZ and Aus returning to the historic values frightens me with either the loss of property capital value or rise in inflation.
Hugh, when should I ask my landlord for a rent review as the million dollar room I live in is now only valued at $500,000.
Hugh You state that "Housing
Hugh
You state that
"Housing should not exceed three times gross annual household incomes."
Houses are now on average 100m2 bigger than 20 - 30 years ago. If income has not increased proportionatly then the ratio would be slightly different.
i am not sure of the national average size of houses but based on when I was in construction the average house 25 years ago was 170m2 and an average house of today appears to be about 270m2 which tends to show the ratio needs to be adjusted
"Houses are now on average
"Houses are now on average 100m2 bigger than 20 - 30 years ago. ."
Interesting...
I query this....newer homes, with an attached garage, is this included in the total living area?
where as older homes 90/100m sq the garage is considered separate.
Im not sure how the realestate agents are doing their marketting ???
Further to the above article
Further to the above article - for 2009, according to MetroStudy a leading US construction researcher, Houston expects to get in 20 - 25,000 new family homes and CBRE reports that 11.000 multi units went in during the 4th Qtr - so it is likely through 2009, Houston will put in place 31 - 36,000 total new units through 2009. That represents a build rate per 1000 population of 5.34 to 6.20.
Pretty respectable - with whats going on in the US bubble markets.
Now for the very bad news - California - where the January permitting results as reported by the California Building Industry Association can only be described as a SHOCKER - the worst in recorded history.
The total permits for the month of January were 2007 - annualized just 24,000 or - with a population of 37 million people - a build rate per 1000 people of just 0.64.
The Californians are "hoping" (thats what they live on now - waiting for Federal funds) to get in 56,000 new units during 2009. Keep dreaming.
Bear in mind that through the Depression years of the 1930's the average build rate per 1000 people through that decade was 2.18 / 1000.
Housing bubbles are a great way to decimate housing construction industries, create unnecessary unemplyment and destroy the tax revenue streams.
Hugh Pavletich
Hi everyone, Have updated the
Hi everyone,
Have updated the post to include Hugh's hyperlinks.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Cheers
Alex
Aaron, sadly, rentals have been
Aaron, sadly, rentals have been artificially low because landlords have been looking at capital gains as the main source of income. Rodney Dickens has done some very good analyses of this; he estimated months ago that there is a 42% gap between property prices and rentals; most of which needs to be rectifies by a fall in property prices, but possibly to some extent by a rise in rentals as well.
AllenH, one of the problems we have, is that with restrictions on the supply of land, developers pick and choose what they will do with the available land, to maximise their returns. There is certainly pent-up demand for smaller, cheaper new houses, but nobody building them.
World Bank economist Alain Bertaud did a fascinating study called "The Costs of Utopia", which includes some graphs of housing density in several different cities. The obvious results of the ones with controlled land supplies, is that although larger new homes are initially built at the urban limits, the escalating prices of all properties ultimately result in demand bringing about cross-leasing and infill development closer to the urban limits, contrary to the planners intentions of forcing infill development closer to the centre. The centre becomes simply unaffordable for the most, even at the most intense levels of infill development.
The perverse result of this, is that average commute distances end up higher in such places than in places where land is unregulated, plentiful, and cheap.
It is virtually a rule of thumb that "planning" has worse unintended consequences than the alleged evils it is meant to address.
So, you've got this study,
So, you've got this study, which indicates that land lords have been charging lower rent than was 'market correct' (apparantly because they could make capital gains), and to top it off their alturism (towards their tenants) is sad.
Mean while, in the real world, landlords are no more or less benevolent than anybody else. There is no such thing as a more natural or un-natural market price. There is no natural or un-natural markets, as money is a legal construct so any market behaviour depends on the laws governing the market (including zoning laws).
Do you really think that these free-market economics ideas are how people ought to behave? and that people are letting down economics by not behaving that way. Maybe the theories should describe how markets actually behave instead?
I dont think thats what he
I dont think thats what he said.....(lower than market correct) Landlords Im sure charge the max they think the market will bear.......certainly that has been my experience...
The problem is houses are 50% over-valued.....so to get back to "normal" most house prices have to drop which will wipe many DIY PIs out....some rents may increase but I doubt there will be much of that....and yes as its the "tax free" many ppl have been going for capital gains...indeed the thing to do seems to be load up as much debt to make it look like you have a loss so you get a PAYE refund.....then cash out at the end tax free....logical really....assuming there is no risk......Now ppl who bought 20 years ago are OK.....they are the ones probably trying to talk the market up so they dont lose their paper gains.....because they need more ppl in all the time to keep the prices rising......its a ponzi scheme....
regards
Kieran: "....We are better than
Kieran:
"....We are better than Houston in supplying new housing....."
Sorry, economics does not lie. If that was the case, our houses would be more affordable than theirs, instead of more unaffordable by a factor of 100%. Your statistics are clearly not an "apples for apples" comparison.
As for the constraints of hilly and watery surroundings, why, then, is there any justification for authorities making it even more difficult and expensive to develop and build new homes? Compare the price that land-banking developers pay for farmland beyond the artificially imposed urban limits, and the price they can get for the same land when it is rezoned for residential use. The difference is an unnecessary cost imposition on every final buyer of the new homes and an inflator of the whole market.
Not that the land banking developers are to be blamed for any perceived lack of ethics. They take frightful risks with huge amounts of capital over long periods of time. The temptation and the potential for corruption between them and local authority staff is enormous.
I can think of half a dozen places where we could put another Auckland sized city. Take a look at any good topographical atlas map of NZ. The lack of development nationwide, is in fact forcing more difficult and costly development in places like Wellington, as there are no rapidly and cheaply developing areas taking the pressure off. If the whole of the USA had not had plenty of safety valve areas taking the pressure off the worst bubble areas, their crash would have been unthinkably worse.
If, or when, we in NZ suffer a crash in line with the kind of predictions that follow from an analysis of housing affordability, i.e. a very bad crash, worse than the USA or the UK or practically anywhere except Ireland and Spain (with whom NZ shared housing unaffordability before their recent crashes), we are going to find it harder and harder to avoid these unpalatable conclusions. Unpalatable, that is, to the Green anti-development crowd and the various vested interests that are their hangers-on.
I don't know what economics
I don't know what economics told you, but it was almost certainly lying. Economics is a bit pathological that way.
this is a very Interest--ing
this is a very Interest --ing blogsite
Hugh's central thesis in this
Hugh's central thesis in this article is that to get the economy going we need to ease restrictions on urban boundaries so that farmers can sell to developers and the new houses (supply) will lower the price. Houston is put forward as the best example of a city with a lack of urban planning that allows it to expand (onto surrounding prairie) meaning supply can keep up with demand and builders are busy as houses are affordable (hence a cure for our economic malaise).
At least I think that is the point. If so how does it relate(just for starters) to Shillers chart of historical American house sales values (existing homes). This would suggest something else at work?
http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2009/02/23/heres-an-intere...
Steptoe (Steps) Says: February 25th,
Steptoe (Steps) Says:
February 25th, 2009 at 9:16 am
"Houses are now on average 100m2 bigger than 20 - 30 years ago. ."
Interesting"¦
I query this
.........................
There was an article in the Press about that: interconnecting lounge areas, ensuites, 4 bedrooms etc
Steptoe Taken fron infometrics web
Steptoe
Taken fron infometrics web site
New houses in New Zealand have been getting bigger. Over the last 15 years, the average new house size has increased by 42% (from 140m2 to 195m2).
over 20 - 30 years a 100m2 increase????. Quite possible
My figure of 100m2 was from an architect who no doubt builds on average a larger size of house.
However you look at this, a figure of 42% size increase over 15 years must alter the ratio of home affordability. The ratio of a home being worth 3 times the average income must now be at least 4 x average income
It is folly to rely on historic ratios and base present values on this
Allen H had said average
Allen H had said average houses are now 270m, based on an architect's advice.
I am an architect and I beleive this is an exagerration. 270m2 are certainly not rare, but I would estimate houses of that size would make up no more than 25% of new houses.
I'd say the average new build house would range between 160m2 to 200m2 (incl. garage)
The average in the 1970s was probably around 130-140.
the state houses of the 50s were about 90-100
the old villa I live in is about 120m2
Hi Matt in Ak the
Hi Matt in Ak
the point here is that the ratio of 3 -1 of house price to average income needs to be revised as the average house size has increased.
That the average size of the average house has increased is a proven.
If the ratio is now more than 3 - 1 is it because houses are over priced or that wages are too low
Allenh - well one way
Allenh - well one way to get the ratio closer to 3-1 is to build smaller hosues, say a two storey 120 sq. m house, on smaller sites, say 300 sq m site
Assuming an average seciton price of $750 per square metre in Auckland, and a build cost of say $1800 per square metre, plus council fees etc. we are getting to a price for a new 3 bedroom house around say $470,000
Compare this to a 200 sq. metre house on 500 sq. m, where we are talking well over $700,000!!!!
I have a 3 bedroom 120 sq. m house, two adults and 2 children, more than big enough!!!!
May I suggest a few
May I suggest a few of you go to my website at www.PerfomanceUrbanPlanning.org - and read in particular 071111 dealing with land supply - 080428 How prescriptive planning degrades housing productivity - and 080810 Understanding Housing Bubbles.
The point I would like to focus on now is the catastrophic situation in California - where in a release dated 24 February, the California Building Industry Association CBIA - reported just 2000 permits issued for the month of January. By 12 months - thats an appalling 24,000 and with its population of 37 million - a build rate per 1000 people of 0.64.
Even I didnt think it could get this bad in California.
If United States (population 305 million) crashed to these levels of 0.64 / 1000 - just 195,200 permits would be issued nationally. New Zealand and Ireland - housing construction would crash to about 2,752 annually from the current aenemic 14,000 or north of 30,000 annually as it was back in mid 2004 at the peak (with respect to New Zealand).
The other great disaster of the English speaking world the United Kingdom - is on a par with California - and with the UK population of 61 million - will according to the House Builders Feederation there only get in about 50,000 new residential units in during 2009. The Government is more optimistic - "hoping" for a paltry 100,000 units.
There should be a replacement build rate of 2 to 3 units annually / 1000 population - and then supply for new household formation.
This is why the focus for politicians must be to "allow" people to build affordable housing on the fringes - as fast as possible.
There is no other alternative.
Hugh Pavletich
PhilBest in response to your
PhilBest in response to your post February 25th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I think you have misunderstood me, I agree with you comparisons between Houston and NZ are not "apples with apples" thats the point I was trying to make Invercargill has affordable housing as well, I wonder why? Comparing Houston with California is like comparing invercargill with Auckland. Wait untill the bubble has fully burst in NZ then you will see the true picture.
Incase you haven't noticed America has also suffered a housing bubble as has every other country I can think of, is it because they all have bad urban planning and a undersupply of housing? No, the real reason is because property became the number 1 investment for all the babyboomers nearing retirement on 2 fulltime incomes at the peak of their earning potential, without kids at home who were capable of driving the prices up as they all competed to get on the bandwagon.
I agree with those that say the benchmark of 3 is unrealistic if you look at the historic figures its actually been around 4 since 1970-80 to expect a multiple of 3 just because thats what it was in 1950-70 is crazy, things were alot different back then.
Hugh- The increase in dwelling numbers (from census data) includes replacements. New housing is only needed for population increase. we currently need to build 14,500 new dwellings a year for population growth, we have been building 25,000+ you think we have a house build problem?
Kieran, ".....Comparing Houston with California
Kieran,
".....Comparing Houston with California is like comparing invercargill with Auckland. Wait untill the bubble has fully burst in NZ then you will see the true picture...."
California is leaking population, Houston is gaining faster than anywhere else, yet their house prices remain affordable. There is no comparison between Houston and Invercargill - yet. If Invercargill or any other region positioned themselves as the pro-development, go-ahead region, they too would gain at the expense of the anti-development regions just as Texas has been gaining at the expense of California.
But you seem to agree that we have a bubble in NZ and the results of it bursting will be interesting. But I cannot understand the attitudes of you and so many others on these threads, to the land supply racket. As I said earlier:
As for the constraints of hilly and watery surroundings, why, then, is there any justification for authorities making it even more difficult and expensive to develop and build new homes? Compare the price that land-banking developers pay for farmland beyond the artificially imposed urban limits, and the price they can get for the same land when it is rezoned for residential use. The difference is an unnecessary cost imposition on every final buyer of the new homes and an inflator of the whole market.
Not that the land banking developers are to be blamed for any perceived lack of ethics. They take frightful risks with huge amounts of capital over long periods of time. The temptation and the potential for corruption between them and local authority staff is enormous.
I personally resent the "let them eat cake" attitudes towards the young and first home buyers, that prices them out of home ownership and/or locks them into excessive mortgage or rent slavery, all because, as Hugh is pointing out, they have to pay well into six figures for the patch of dirt that any house sits on, when the low five figures would be perfectly possible looking at overseas experience and at the cost of farmland here in NZ. And all because there is a racket running on land supply that is similar to OPEC's tactics with the supply of oil.
I do wonder whether some commenters are even reading Hugh's works and the Demographia reports and all the other things he links to.
Kieran tells me:
"......In case you haven't noticed America has also suffered a housing bubble as has every other country I can think of, is it because they all have bad urban planning and a undersupply of housing? No, the real reason is because property became the number 1 investment for all the babyboomers nearing retirement on 2 fulltime incomes at the peak of their earning potentia.....".
Having actually read all the Demographia reports, and a lot of other detail on this subject, I have to say Hugh's case is unanswerable. "America" hasn't suffered a housing bubble, States and regions within America have suffered housing bubbles and there is a strong correlation between the size of the various bubbles and the land supply regulation. The affordability index and the rate of the bubble in the USA as a whole, have been dragged down by the great majority of affordable States. If California was a country on its own, it would now be following Iceland and Latvia and Hungary into the hands of the IMF, thanks to their development-killing politics and its various consequences, of which the housing bubble is the pinnacle.
I also suspect that some commenters here have vested interests in keeping land prices high; no, that is a much too weak way to put it; the stench is obvious hundreds of kilometers away.
The similarity with OPEC tactics,
The similarity with OPEC tactics, is that OPEC supplies "enough" oil, same as NZ might have been building "enough" houses by some estimates. But supply has been manipulated so as to ensure that the price is much higher than it would have been. Just as the supply of oil at the higher prices might seem to be "enough" yet there are billions of poorer people who cannot afford it at all; NZ might seem to be building "enough" homes for its population increase and yet have been suffering for years from a housing shortage for which supply has never been allowed to catch up.
I do think that New Zealanders have been the world's most foolish people, in extending themselves so far; our debt servicing cost as a factor of household income is the same as the US's, but that does not tell the whole story. Our interest rates have been consistently higher than theirs and our assumption of debt, in spite of that, has been slightly worse. The killer difference with NZ-ers debt servicing is that the TERM of the debt being serviced is on average 2 to 3 times as long as the term in which the average American will have PAID BACK the debt.
The other untold story about NZ, is that first home buyers for the last few years have got mortgage finance under conditions that resemble or are even worse than, what has come to be known in the US as "subprime". We have not been so candid as to put a name on it. We have had the media celebrating because our average first home buyer's percentage of income committed to mortgage servicing has dropped from over 70% to under 60%, and this on a stretched-out loan term; this would certainly be regarded as "sub-prime" conditions in the USA; 45% is regarded as unacceptable in many markets.
Dropping the interest rates will merely pump up the price and debt bubbles as long as land supply issues are not addressed; and ultimately the bursting of the bubble will be the worse as a consequence.
Philbest, invercargill is cheaper than
Philbest, invercargill is cheaper than auckland because people would rather live in auckland and are prepared to pay a premium for that privellage, the same as california. Houston wasn't immune to the bubble either, its all comparitive why doesen't everybody in california just move to houston then?
I want to see affordable housing available and a correct supply of new housing also, but not more large family houses on large sections on fringe land. not because I want to save rural land or stop urban growth but because this is not the type of housing thats going to be needed in the future we already have enough of this type of housing to meet future demand.
I am saying we have a housing affordability problem because of the "Investment bubble" The cause of the bubble was the spiral of ever inreasing demand for high capital gains, normal market supply and demand dinamics don't operate during bubbles.
Hugh thinks lack of supply is the cause of the bubble ie not enough new houses being built = higher prices but all the facts and data show that over the last 10 years we have actually had an oversupply of new housing (your opec example doesen't make sense)
I have read hughs demographia reports and other articals and they are very handy in pointing out unaffordability and for comparing other cities/countries, but his solution does not take future population growth or composition into account and will only increase prices because when all the babyboomers retire they will want/need to live closer to town in flats/townhouses/appartments etc... and there won't be enough of this type of housing available for them.
I am not a babyboomer so I do not have a vested interest, its actually in my best interest if hugh is succesfull in increasing the numbers of larger stand alone houses in the friges(I will be buying one for me and my family to live in when prices have stopped falling, I sold my first home in 2006 and have been renting since because I new the bubble was going to pop eventually) the bigger the fall the better.
Housing supply is not the issue investment demand, bad lending and monetry policy is.
Kieran, it is interesting to
Kieran, it is interesting to discuss this with you.
Here is the essential difference between a market with land use restrictions and one without, when there are problems with bad lending and monetary policy (on which I am in agreement with you).
In the market with land use restrictions, the bad lending and monetary policies push up the prices of all houses. In the markets without, there is a boom in the construction of houses and prices remain low. The boom in these places tends to be self-sustaining, as the ease of starting a business and employing people is also low, and people migrate into those areas seeking the blessed combination of jobs and affordable housing.
Do you know what "ABC" and "GTT" stand for in the USA? "Anywhere But California", and "Gone To Texas". Your comment "...why doesen't everybody in california just move to houston then?..." is an exaggeration, but there is truth in it. You could read "Moving To Flyover Country" by Wendell Cox, and "Sundown For California" by Joel Kotkin. One comment in the latter is that even more people would be moving out of California, only they can't sell their houses....!
You would notice that the resulting damage from the bubble bursting, is almost entirely due to the restrictive, price-inflating regions. A $100,000 "subprime mortgage" is way less damaging than a $400,000 subprime mortgage. Also, in the former case, the local economy tends to be much more reslilient and the foreclosed homes will find occupants much quicker and any slide in values will be quickly arrested as well as slight.
I fear that NZ is going to have a crash commensurate with the level of unaffordability to which its houses went. Good on you for picking this; just watch the security of your cash in the meantime......!
Texas is no more attractive a place to live than Invercargill, although in different ways. Invercargill, or any region of NZ, could become "NZ's Texas" by becoming avowedly pro-development. Melbourne could well be in the process right now of pulling this stunt in Australia.
I am interested in your comment about "the right kind of homes". I think that the idea that high density living is the answer to some future age of scarcity of resources and low carbon emmissions, is absurd. How many solar panels or wind turbines can you mount on each apartment in an apartment building? How many vege gardens can each occupant have? What are the consequences of the occupants of apartment buildings burning biomass for heating?
Have you seen the study "Consuming Australia", by "the Centre for Integrated Sustainability Analysis" at Sydney University, that calculated that carbon footprints were higher in the case of inner city living than in the case of suburban living?
"Commuting" absorbs only around TEN PER CENT of total energy consumed by households (29.4% from goods and services consumed, 28.3% from food, 20% from household uses (mainly electricity), 11.8% from construction and renovations, and just 10.5% from transport, mostly petrol). Different locations"”downtown, high-density inner suburb, suburban, or urban fringe"”barely matter. The major carbon variable is household income. Those with the highest household carbon footprints are those with high incomes living in "vibrant downtown communities."
THIS graph is very informative:
THIS graph is very informative:
http://www.newgeography.com/content/00500-case-shiller-index-housing-pri...
PhilBest A few points: 1.
PhilBest
A few points:
1. The sydney university study is frequently abused and misquoted. Whilst apartment buildings were found to lead to greater CO2 emissions than single detached houses on a per capita basis, this was only in terms of home energy use and didn't take account of transport-related emissions. Furthermore, the study stated that villas and townhouses were the most energy efficient housing forms, not large detached houses. this would support the notion that medium density development - townhosues, duplexes, low rise apartments - close to public trasnport and centres are the best from a CO2 emission perspective
2. As someone (sorry I forgot who) has previously pointed out, the study is not THAT relevant to the NZ context because most of our energy is generated by hydro dams etc. rather than coal etc in the Australian case. So therefore on a per capita basis a unit in an apartment in NZ will consume less CO2 than an equvialent apartment in Aus
See this study for an outline of how large detached houses in sprawling suburbia lead to higher energy use:
http://www.mi.vt.edu/data/files/hpd%2019.1/ewing_article.pdf
Also Harvard University's Edward Glaeser:
http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_1_green-cities.html
My own personal experience aligns
My own personal experience aligns with these theories.
Recently moved from a house in Glendowie remote from shops, and on a pretty average bus route
moved to Remuera, 5 mins walk to a new world, 7 minutes walk to train station
We've dumped our second car, making on average about 3 car trips per day compared to about 8 before
I'm sure our carbon footprint has shrunk dramatically, plus its also great economically
Excellent ideas here, have emailed
Excellent ideas here, have emailed my mum so expect a big reply!!