"Small countries like Bolivia and Sudan can jump up and down and stamp their feet but they are irrelevant when it comes to solving the challenge of climate change."

PM: Climate accord process must change

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10616714&p...

So maybe time for us to get real and stop wasting our time, TAXES and throttling our economy with so much jumping up and down and stamping our feet.

If unlimited growth was possible - Gareth Morgan and other physics deniers take note - there wouldn't be a problem.

The 'jumping up and down' is merely the visual face of those limits. Not enough to go round anymore.

What is most interesting, is that all the developed countries (including NZ) were worried about their fiscal advantage/disadvantage. The Greenland Norse dies with all their coin (none of it fiat) in hand. Meaning we are slow learners.

My new-year's resolution is to take Morgan, you Bernard, Cunliffe, English et all, on re limits to growth, exponential impact, and the downstream effects.

Bah humbug :)

Copenhagen accord keeps Big Carbon in business

"The only tree they were concerned with hugging was the money tree"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6845686/...

Hattip http://twitter.com/Peter_Cresswell

Is the European police state going global?

From The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley in Copenhagen

Today the gloves came off and the true purpose of the "global warming" scare became nakedly visible. Ugo Chavez, the Socialist president of Venezuela, blamed "global warming" on capitalism "“ and received a standing ovation from very nearly all of the delegates, lamentably including those from those of the capitalist nations of the West that are on the far Left "“ and that means too many of them.

Previously Robert Mugabe, dictator of Rhodesia, who had refused to leave office when he had been soundly defeated in a recent election, had also won plaudits at the conference for saying that the West ought to pay him plenty of money in reparation of our supposed "climate debt".

Inside the conference center, "world leader" after "world leader" got up and postured about the need to Save The Planet, the imperative to do a deal, the necessity to save the small island nations from drowning, etc., etc., etc.

Outside, in the real world, it was snowing, and a foretaste of the Brave New World being cooked up by "world leaders" in their fantasy-land was already evident. Some 20,000 observers from non-governmental organizations "“ nearly all of them true-believing Green groups funded by taxpayers "“ had been accredited to the conference. ... However, the Danish police were far too free with their hands when pushing us around, and that is not acceptable in a free society. But then, Europe is no longer a free society. It is, in effect, a tyranny ruled by the unelected Kommissars of the European Union. That is perhaps one reason why police forces throughout Europe, including that in the UK, have become far more brutal than was once acceptable in their treatment of the citizens they are sworn to serve.

It is exactly this species of tyranny that the UN would like to impose upon the entire planet, in the name of saving us from ourselves "“ or, as Ugo Chavez would put it, saving us from Western capitalist democracy.

From: http://sppiblog.org/news/is-the-european-police-state-going-global

Environmentalism is the new Communism. The final death throes of freedom are here ...

Coldest temperatures on the East Coast of North America since records begun, deepest snow falls since the 1940's. Europe frozen under a blanket of snow, for the first time, the severe cold has stopped the Chunnel from operating for three days now.

Global warming: yeah right.

Powerdoom, do we spot the Inner Totalitarian peaking through?

Ha! my bad. Freudian slip? Peeking through 'swhat I meant to type.

Records fall as snow blankets the East Coast ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/us/21snow.html?_r=1&src=twt&twt=nytimes

Cold is warm - global warming. Yeah right.

We've got to dump our ETS before a single one of us pays more for power, for fuel, for every damned thing, from next July. It's insanity.

Must read article - http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/17/the-emperor%E2%80%99s-new-carbon-cred...

Quote from page 2:

... because after 1960 the tree rings show no express elevator up the thermometer, but in fact a decline. That's the "decline" that Dr. Phil Jones, in his leaked email, is trying to "hide." Because, if you don't hide it, a basic truth emerges"”that the Medieval Warm Period was warmer than today, and the planet managed to survive and indeed prosper during it. It took two dogged Canadians, Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick, to demolish the hockey-stick fraud, and the enraged priests of the Settled Science cult have spent the years since 2006 trying to stick it back together. Dr. Keith Briffa had a crack in 2007 for the IPCC report. As usual, the CRU refused, in defiance of basic scientific etiquette, to reveal its raw data, but eventually the Royal Society ordered them to. And, when they did, it emerged that Dr. Briffa had cherry-picked a few trees from the Yamal peninsula in Siberia to obtain the desired result.