Has anyone taken up any of the ASB's Work making loans, 2 billion available I believe??.

Maybe we need to collectively invest in a Tyre Business, or for that matter other cast off manufacturing or infrastructure necessities to keep ASB & Aussie and NZ going, should any conflict arise.

Maybe the ANZ and WESTPAC need a fund too.

Maybe we should have invested in real "Manufacturing Businesses" and not just houses over the past decades for Capital Gain.

Correct me if I am wrong, did Helen & co, just think that the world was so safe from Despots that a capable force with infrastructure, firmly behind it, was unnecessary.

Can this be why we are vulnerable and it is getting worse as we lose more and more capabilities with each generation and more and more wasted funds with each day.

Is there a THINK TANK in NZ that has any input into a possible remedy. Or have they flown the coop.

Or is RUGBY the only main topic on peoples minds as well as Tax avoidance schemes for the Boys.

I do not mind losing at Rugby so much. I know that is heresy for the National game. A defeat and 40 million loss is peanuts, compared to other possibilities.

There are bigger items on the horizon in the East, perhaps.

We cannot just rely on America and Britain as it sinks in the West.

Capital Gain is nothing, compared to the Capital, Wellington, lost.

Or am I mistaken.

Thanks Alex..I wonder why nothing further has been forthcoming..

Bank Manager, can I make a suggestion....

Yeah right Bill......just send me the BILLs...I will borrow it from the big 4. @ 250 million per week....signed the TAXPAYER.

New TUI..