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Gareth Morgan attacks financial advisors, other fund managers and regulators in new book
Economist and fund manager Gareth Morgan is releasing a book in which he 'names and shames' the people behind finance company collapses and attacks financial advisers, other fund managers and regulators for letting down regular investors.
After the panic: Surviving bad investments and bad advice is a sequel to his 2007 book Pension Panic and is available from Friday June 19. It includes information gathered by Interest .co.nz about finance companies. Here is a link to a video interview Gareth Morgan did to promote the book on TVNZ's CloseUp programme.
"It's a disgrace what's happened. Look at all of the finance companies and money that's gone down the tubes in the last couple of years," Morgan said in a release promoting the book.
"We need this book so we can figure out how to move forward. Although there's been a lot of stuff swirling about in the media with names being mentioned here and there I suspect people were so overwhelmed with the unrelenting bad news that they ended up switching off - almost desensitised or so worn down by it all that they've disengaged. And this is dangerous," Morgan said.
"If we're to learn anything out of this mess it is that people can't disengage. It's time now to take a breath and say: "˜Okay. So what can we do to stop this from ever happening again," he said.
"People need to be far more informed and ask a lot more questions. Investing is always going to be a risk but it needs to be a considered one, not one based on a pack of lies and half truths. People can't just sit back and rely on others to make good choices for them. Unfortunately, trust in the industry has long gone out the window and we can't rely on people to do the right thing anymore. There are a lot of sharks out there and they're already circling again."
"Hopefully I provide people with everything they need to better equip themselves if they're going to play the money game. It needs to be a level playing field and my book provides them with a pretty good place to start."
Morgan said the financial crisis and economic downturn exposed an epidemic of behaviour from members of the financial sector that was against the public interest.
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"We've seen some blimmin shonky activity going on. But it's not just shonky. The whole sector to me has got this high level of incompetence," he said.
"Then there are the individuals. I couldn't put this book out without mentioning names. These people have been pretty much invisible, hiding behind limited liability companies. They can simply shut up shop and open for business the next day. That's fine if the system allows it but the public needs to keep track of these operators for when they resurface."
"We need a public record and here you have it. The names are already out there but I wanted this book to be a one-stop-shop to make it as easy as possible for the mum-and-dad investors and generations to come to never again go through what we have. It's been a very, very, very painful lesson which will be felt for generations to come."
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GM needs to be thanked
GM needs to be thanked for doing a job our useless govt would put in the too hard basket.
High hopes of a good
High hopes of a good read. Don't you let us down as well, Gareth.
I want a copy now!!!.
I want a copy now!!!.
I read his previous book
I read his previous book pension panic and it was great. I'll be picking this up on Friday for sure.
Sam : your dad is
Sam : your dad is a miserable sod. Should've given you a copy. You made him $ 35 million on the TradeMe thing.
Will it include Goverment Servants
Will it include Goverment Servants (like guys in treasury and Reserve Bank) who fell asleep (or even gave a wink or two) in between "power lunches" while those guys (who are named) goes about cooking their stuff ?
That way at least we know who to avoid in the event they goes out and become "Directors" etc of private businesses using the tag of "previously senior goverment in ...ministries etc etc etc ??
Wally, Never truer words spoken.
Wally, Never truer words spoken. Labour sat and watched it all take place for 9 years. I dont hold much hope this lot will be any better. Mind you Wally to be fair, anyone that puts their money where ex All Blacks and ex News Readers recommend really deserve to lose their dosh. Dont get me started on the Hanover, Blue Chip, Western Bay finance etc etc debacles. Many years ago when I was very young a very wealthy old man gave me some advice. He said, son the day you give other people your money to look after is the day you dont deserve to have that money. I never forgot his advice!
Roger what are you on
Roger what are you on about..
Are you a little worried? You don't happen to be a Financial advisor maybe?
Mick : do you know
Mick : do you know who Sam Morgan is ?
Roger: umm yes. I just
Roger:
umm yes. I just trying to work out the point you're making.
The money he made off trademe he set up a charity with to give away...
Gareth Morgan is a top
Gareth Morgan is a top bloke. What I particularly like about him is that he speaks in plain english, no bullsxxt. I reckon he should start his own (non) political party, he'd be Prime Minister at the next election.
What an interesting idea shuttle.
What an interesting idea shuttle. Hmmm I would be tempted to vote then.
If Big Wednesday falls into
If Big Wednesday falls into my lap next week, one of the first calls I'll make is to Gareth to help me hang on to as much of it as I can. He's honest; so I'll be getting a copy of his book.
Yeah, nice one Gareth. The
Yeah, nice one Gareth. The problem for most ma & pa investors, and what (apart from their own naivety and, sometimes, greed) leaves them vulnerable to the sharks is cleverly expressed in this send up from The Onion. http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/jpmorgan_chase_acquires
I've got to read that
I've got to read that book.
good on ya Gareth,although I'm
good on ya Gareth,although I'm glad I didn't take your advice in the 90's to rent not buy a house.best advice I ever ignored.
I am guessing hanover, nathans,
I am guessing hanover, nathans, and bridgecorp will feature heavily.
I am with Gareth, in that 'Celebrities' shouldn't be allowed to endorse these things, when they are not qualitified.
It is just like Marc Ellis advertising those HRV systems, when he clearly doesn't understand them. Take warm air from your roof space.Yeah right, my roofspace is as cold as it is outside, if not colder, as it is not insulated, hence the house needs more heating (not less) in winter if you use an HRV system.
I commend Mr Morgan for
I commend Mr Morgan for his tip top publicity and media image, not for his advice. There is an obvious lack of focus on financial knowledge taught in school/college. I think the fact is, the majority lacks the drive to pursue financial knowledge (hence the poor investment decisions made). These 'investors' are much happier taking the easy track and paying a fee for it (cue the 'financial advisors').
In all professions there are a handful 'shonky' people ie// doctors, accountants, estate agents etc. but to paint the NZ financial services sector as 'shonky' is nothing more than a PR stunt. If someone came out tomorrow and said that the NZ medical sector was 'shonky' because of numerous incidents and was prepared to list them, then Im sure that person would enjoy much media coverage (even better if they themselves operate in the service, wouldnt you say?).
Why paint the financial services sector as 'shonky' ? Because then the only ray of light for these lazy and dependant investors is therefore.... GMI Ltd. Demanding transparency and honesty is great and exactly what we need, however wouldnt it be better to come from someone operating independently to the Financial services sector? The point is, why do people act surprised, when they lack the drive to improve their own financial knowledge? Once again I tip my hat to Mr Morgan's PR/media advisor.
<i>Andrew McLean Says: June 18th,
Andrew McLean Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
I commend Mr Morgan for his tip top publicity and media image, not for his advice.
I think I do agree with Gareth. Before the finance company sector imploded, you didn't need any qualifications to be a financial advisor. Many of these advisors were simply greedy, and got commissions to refer their clients to the finance companies, and we all know what happened then. There was also no accountability.
Even today, many of these financial commentators (who are also advisors) you hear on TV aren't really providing any information that I don't already know myself. The exception is Brian Gaynor who I think is very good in most ways, although I don't agree with him when he said the ING offer was a good one.
Some commentators say one thing, some say another, but in large they seem to be guessing a lot of the stuff they say. A few months ago one financial commentator stated the NZ dollar will be quickly heading well under the 50 US cent mark, and another said we will be heading over the 70 cent mark, so why are there always totally conflicing views, if they all know what they are talking about and are doing their research.
I agree with Andrew. Top
I agree with Andrew. Top media/pr advisor gareth clearly has. He is very clever and plain speaking though. Every sector unfortunately, has it's shonky advisors/ experts. I have two adult sons and every time I try and give them financial literacy and relationship advice ( To avoid their partners making off with any money they may have) I get shunned and told off and criticised, unfairly I think. We need a paradigm shift in some people's thinking that it is not impolite to talk about money and investments. Many people have been' educated' in this belief.!!! Not mine but their partners are uncomfortable with "money talk".
Andrew McLean writes: "Why paint
Andrew McLean writes:
"Why paint the financial services sector as 'shonky' ? Because then the only ray of light for these lazy and dependant investors is therefore"¦. GMI Ltd. Demanding transparency and honesty is great and exactly what we need, however wouldnt it be better to come from someone operating independently to the Financial services sector?..."
If Gareth Morgan "walks the talk" when it comes to transparency and honesty, why should he sit around and wait for an independent operator to speak up and expose the dirt?
And I would have expected all the other transparent and honest fund managers out there to join this PR party, but they've been awfully quiet. I've never heard Gareth Morgan suggest GMI Ltd was the only decent manager out there, but I'm starting to wonder where the rest of them are. Their PR people should be all over this.
@ Andrew Mc, "why paint
@ Andrew Mc, "why paint the financial sector as shonky" because much like most commission based services which wish to be seen as professional they rely too much on the power of the dollar.
My lawyer, doctor, accountant etc is as a rule motivated by whats best for me, and provides advice based on sound practice, with the bill normally the lowest concern. They want the best outcome.
F.A's (like RE's) seem to have a tendency to favour the bigger commission either deliberately or accidently. If one fund pays 2% commission and the other 3% (and the risk for the latter is supposedly only slighly higher), then inadvertently the 3% will normally get the recommendation.
And if you want to be seen as professional providing a service and coherent advice then charge a fee or a hourly rate (that goes for RE's as well). And get some proper qualifications and rules around the sector. Most FA's woudn't know 90% of the products they selll....and it has shown.
Imagine going to your doctor, lawyer, accountant for advice and then finding out they knew only slightly more than you (or in some cases less) and that super duper deal they were now promoting had just bumped its commission rate up by 100%.....hmmm
SMW is right. Gareth has
SMW is right. Gareth has not just started his criticism of the financial advisor sector. It goes back several years when he did a series of articles in the NBR, in particular. There has been little if any "defence" of the industry practices resulting from those articles.
Why should it be up to schools to solve everything people perceive to be wrong ? Why doesn't the industry sponsor a certified independently taught course ( in after work time ) on investing , if they think there is a lack financial literacy. ( Not another sales seminar -- but a serious , structured course ).
The one thing I've liked about whats happened in recent years in the industry is that people use the word "bet" and not "investment" because alot of the financial products are just that -- a bet not an investment. Similar to the TAB.
"....is available from Friday June
"....is available from Friday June 19."
Not from Borders ChCh it's not! It's not even in their 'puter, Gareth.
Financial literacy is acquired through
Financial literacy is acquired through being beaten to a pulp by Mr Market. Fat chance of teaching it to the school fodder if the so called elite in world society proved themselves to be utterly financially dumb when it came to Madoff the investment genius. Think of the market potential for a pill that if taken every day would improve ones ability to detect fraud! Post your money to Wally. Pills will arrive soon.
The biggest thing young people
The biggest thing young people need to understand is debt. However what concerns me is the concept of debt is simple, which leads me to believe the majority of people already understand debt.
What I think people have a problem with is restraint and able to be satisfied with what they have - we don't need to be always buying the biggest, best, newest thing just because we feel like it. This is what needs to be taught (and in IMHO by parents).
That's my 2c, however this is what will happen...
Financial literacy will be taught in schools, this will include investing. The young school leavers high on hormones and believing that they are bullet proof will run off and start investing (probably leveraging) in a market they can only see going in one direction. There will be bubbles and they will get burnt (dot com bubble v2).
Kids need to gain experience, physically contribute to industry and understand what the economy is all about, before they start "investing" "“ because, guess what kids the real world is far different to class.