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National would form a coalition of last resort with New Zealand First if necessary

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National would form a coalition of last resort with New Zealand First if necessary
A composite image of Winston Peters smiling and Christopher Luxon giving a thumbs up
Winston Peters and Christopher Luxon could become coalition partners

It’s not his first preference, but National Party leader Christopher Luxon has confirmed he would call on NZ First to form a coalition, alongside the Act Party, if necessary. 

Luxon has repeatedly refused to rule the resurgent NZ First in or out for months, arguing it was not above the 5% threshold in National’s internal polls. 

This is unlikely to still be the case. NZ First has been above the 5% threshold in 10 of the past 15 public polls and is on track to win six seats in our DIY average. 

As the party has risen in the polls, Luxon’s position has begun to become more clear and he has dropped some hints that he could work with Winston Peters. 

Now, in a social media video posted first thing on Monday morning, he has confirmed it. 

“My strong preference is to form a strong and stable two party coalition government between National and ACT,” he said. 

“However, if New Zealand First is returned to Parliament, and I need to pick up the phone to Mr Peters to keep Labour and the Coalition of Chaos out, I will make that call”.

Luxon emphasised that this was not not his preference and that voters who want a change in government should give their support directly to National.

He reminded viewers that NZ First had not been in Government with National since 1998 and had supported two Labour governments since then.

However, the party hasn’t had an opportunity to form Government with National since then, except in 2017.

Interest.co.nz’s DIY polling average shows National and Act on track to win 61 seats, which would be just enough to govern without support from NZ First’s six votes — but it could easily be different on election night. 

The Act Party would still be needed in a three-way coalition under National, but its leader David Seymour has ruled out sitting around the Cabinet table with NZ First. 

Seymour has a fractious relationship with NZ First’s Winston Peters. The two leaders have very different worldviews but often fight for a similar set of voters.

Speaking on Newstalk ZB this morning, Seymour said it was “extremely unlikely” that he’d accept a full three-way coalition that included NZ First. 

One of the two minor parties would have to be relegated to being a support party sitting without any senior ministers or a role in the executive.

On current polling, National and Act would be able to form a government without NZ First but only with a one seat majority. This means any single MP leaving Parliament or voting against the party could topple the coalition.

For example, Labour started the 53rd Parliament with 65 seats but lost three of them throughout the term. One member defected to Te Pāti Māori, one seat was lost in a by-election, and another was left empty when Ardern resigned early.

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Good move. But more a push for me to vote NZF for me. 

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Me too because I was never going to vote for Luxon. He's too conservative for me.

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NZF is more conservative than National.

Best news I saw this weekend was Nicola Willis ruling out any asset sales or increase to GST. 

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Actually, I didn't believe Willis when she said that. They will after all be working with ACT.  I'm talking about Luxon the person. Anti- abortion.

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Lol. You sound like you actually believe her 

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John Key ruled out any increase to GST.

Less than 6 months later he raised the GST rate. Remember, this is who they idolise.

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There is a very long list of shifty politicians I don't trust in the slightest, but Nicola doesn't give me that same vibe when she speaks. But I am probably a silly old fool that some scammer will soon part with his money.

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So lets not mention the Medium Density Residential Standards (MDRS) legislation that Willis was 100% in agreement with back then and has now done a !00% about face on? Yeah. So trustworthy.

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Thank god she had the strength of character to admit it was a mistake.

"I reserve the right to change my opinion as more information becomes available." Some famous person

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So terrible decision making vs. strength of character, huh? That works for you?

What it does show is that Willis will just do whatever her leader says. (And in case you're unaware - that isn't Luxon. It's the invisible faces - mostly multi-millionaires - that set National Party policy and tell the politicians what to say and do.)

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Yes I remember Sirjohnkey saying the same words

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Should have ruled out NZF so they don't make the 5%. Bad move from Luxon he needed to push a vote for NZF is a wasted vote.

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I disagree.

Firstly, ruling out parties of coalition deals (before they are even in a position to be negotiated) seems to me to run contrary to the principles of an MMP system. If enough people want to vote for NZ First to get across the 5% threshold, then their "interests" deserve a place at the negotiation table, do they not?

Secondly, if you want to see the government changed it seems crazy to reject out-of-hand a potential 5,6,7% of votes that might be critical post-election, especially as we all know that if Luxon had ruled out NZ First and they were then needed he would be making that call (just as you can guarantee that even though Chippy has ruled NZ First out, he will make that call if needed and sell his soul to justify it). Declaring you don't need or want a coalition partner then calling them up is surely not a great starting point for negotiations!

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Luxon & National could have saved themselves quite some distraction by simply saying from the outset we will consider ant coalition partner from any party that the electorate has seen fit to return to parliament. In signalling ruling out National.  the Greens & TPM would have done the work for them.

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Great comment. His posturing over the past 3 months when asked repeatedly whether he would consider working with Peters makes him look shifty and untrustworthy. 

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Albert...your post should read;

"Great comment. His posturing over the past 3 months when asked repeatedly whether he would consider working with Peters makes him shifty and untrustworthy." 

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Good point, replace the "f" from the first adjective with a "t" and perhaps more accurate?

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Hard to argue with that.

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he is only saying it in the open now because internal polling has NZ first  back and who knows what ACT are bringing in or how stable they will be after this election , DS has moved 60% of the last lot out of parliament and that should tell you a lot of the internals of ACT

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if Labour and Green voters don't want ACT to hold to much power, it's time for them to vote NZF or National.

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I wonder if any of these polls are taking into account that Te Pati Māori will likely be bringing in more additional MPs on its party list than it did in the current government with only a single electorate MP.

What National must be reading in its polling is the bleeding of party votes to ACT.  No other reason for Luxon to make such a formal announcement about NZF.

 

 

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The swing is to NZ first and Luxon knows it. He's trying to save face. His video message was pure Willis. 

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How interesting if that is the case. Bleeding party votes via two arteries :-).

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Totally, that’s my plan. I’ve also convinced my father (usually true blue voter) to do the same as he has concerns about the direction ACT would drag this country towards.

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I would argue voting for NZ First is the only answer to mute ACTs influence as there are many ACT policies that National would like to introduce (lower top tax rate etc) that National will claim after the election they had to introduce as part of the coalition negotiations with ACT. 

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The reality is that polls do not reflect who will turn out to vote.  The polls do reflect that people want change so I expect a higher percentage of those people will turn out to vote than those that don’t want change.

ACT is likely to surprise & are highly likely to form a majority government without NZ First.

NZ First will get more popular with a lot of Labour supporters voting strategically to reduce ACT’s influence.

I predict Labour will continue to slide in popularity because of this.  

The shift to the right will give National more reason to decimate Labour’s policies.

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I don't think ACT will climb above 12%. The recent polling suggests this to be true and certainly the party has performed poorly over the past few weeks with the media highlighting their poor candidate selection process and austerity measures

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And the realisation that ACT want asset sales back on the agenda won't help their numbers.

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Yes TB Labour is in dire straits. Defections firstly to the Greens & now to NZF as it is more than likely not going to be a wasted vote. Labour could well end up with less seats than National in 2020. Extraordinary downfall and even more extraordinarily they don’t appear to have a clue as to why. Ironically WP’s often derisive remarks during the first term about their incompetence, cluelessness are resounding loud & clear, as he returns to bite them

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Not sure why people are still obsessed with the election.

No current party in NZ will bring any real changes to NZ. 

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True. No radical change. But you keep on overlooking, on the grand scale, that New Zealand is only the size of a reasonable suburb in your homeland. 

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And the current government leading the 'suburb' is pushing furiously on a race-based co-gov and try to let everyone speak/write this very 'suburb' specific language?

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Mt Albert? Favourite spot for Taiwanese!

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NZ First is very likely to be there so I think Luxon is doing the right thing here by grabbing an option and hoping to reduce ACTs influence in the post election Govt.

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Seems like both National and ACT are working and promoting for Winston. Good on ya, Old Man.

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Luxon would sell his soul to the Devil for power.

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Worked for Shipley...

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I think you mean Bolger.  Once Shipley rolled Bolger the coalition with NZF disintegrated;

On 14 August 1998, Shipley sacked Peters from Cabinet. This occurred after an ongoing dispute about the sale of the government's stake in Wellington International Airport.[34]

Peters immediately broke off the coalition with National. However, several other MPs, unwilling to follow Peters out of government, tried to replace Peters with Henare. This caucus-room coup failed, and most of these MPs joined Henare in forming a new party, Mauri Pacific, while others established themselves as independents. Many of these MPs had come under public scrutiny for their behaviour. Until 1999, however, they provided National with enough support to continue without New Zealand First.[35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_First

 

 

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Bolger came back from the USA - Washington to find he (like Caesar got knifed in the back 'Et tu, Brute') was replaced by Shipley to beat Helen from becoming NZ first female Prime Minister. National have never been the same since this culture remains to this day.

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And then she went on to wreck Mainzeal and a plethora of its sub-contractors.

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Hardly surprising outcomes for qualifications hardly beyond a primary schoolteacher. Don’t know that Bolger would have held it together much longer but there should be no capacity in NZ politics to rise to the top simply by being gifted at bulldozing. Mind you, at least the indomitable David Lange was given opportunity to provide us on TV, with one of his greatest put downs.

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True. The angle I was coming in at was a bit more towards what 2 tooth mentioned. 

Pretty interesting listening on RNZ this morning: Shaw, Hipkins, and Bishop wrapping up with some analysis from Jane Patterson. 

National really don't want to work with Winston, but will to secure their place behind the wheel. I wonder what would have happened if they had just ruled it out. 

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I reckon Luxon would sell everything including William and Olivia to get power!

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No but yours and mine and any unbelievers will be on the block.

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This will never work both there egos are to big.

Winston is lazy and just there to stir things up very negative.

He would be better to say up North and go Fishing his time has well expired.

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"Strong and stable" and "Coalition of Chaos" 

Have we been transported to the UK in 2017?

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Yup. This election is really looking like NZ's Brixit moment. Alas the polls all say we'll leave. (And go back in time to god knows when.)

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Luxon should make a visit to the crossroads. He will find Peters there waiting for his signature.

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National, ACT and NZF...change of Government but still a Coalition of Chaos 

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Excluding Winston's ego is there anything that precludes a Nat-Act Government with NZF providing confidence and supply? 

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hahahaha - answer: Winston's ego. 

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Seymour is going to have to compromise, else let his 'moral high-ground' bury ACT's ambition

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A pretend-libertarian-and-Epsom-NIMBY has no moral high ground.

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NZ First has some 'interesting' policies ...

https://www.nzfirst.nz/2023_policies

Some will appeal to the red-neck elements of the right. And some absolutely won't!

I note they want to take GST off most foods (like everyone else does except NZ).

But they don't say how they're going to plug that budget hole. Ah well. They're in good company. ACT doesn't say how they're going to pay for their promises either. And we've already noted the glaring holes in National's budget.

Call me old fashioned - but being able to present a realistic budget used to be a major requirement. 

So far, the Greens and TOP have believable budgets. Labour's is almost believable as it is pretty much 'steady as she goes'. Good practice from the more progressive parties (although only the Green's and TOP's budgets show any inspiration.)

But the right? OMG. National & ACT? With NZF? An awful prospect.

Yup. NZ faces it's Brexit moment. And we'll probably 'leave' and return to the 80s? Or maybe 60s? Or maybe the Key years? But nobody ask the NACT how they'll do it. Why? They have no idea!

Our Brexit moment for sure.

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This election is not about budget. It is about vested interests keeping their advantage. 

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Its easy to see what they will do. Regressive tax policy. Probably say "Labour left us in really bad shape, we have no choice but to raise GST to 20%". Or they will simply get rid of their tax cuts, particularly any that help the low end.

General public outrage, but you get what you vote for.

If ACT have a large say, they are libertarian, so will downsize government considerably.  National/ACT when in power have a tendency to do this, already government departments are gearing up for it (keeping some roles around that they had planned to disestablish, but are waiting for them to come to power so they look like they are trimming heaps, when they aren't really). But if ACT have a large say, expect a bunch of government services to almost disappear completely, doing stuff like sending the call centres overseas and reducing heaps of services. And any improvement programs Labour has started will be axed, no matter how good they are (for instance unified health systems across the country, so you know, you can move around and your records are available everywhere).  National/ACT are great can kickers to system upgrades in the country, where they say "well the current systems are working, lets get another 10 years out of them", when the systems are basically collapsing.

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Dont forget that national was ditched 6 years ago. The nat voters fled to labour to get rid of the hated national government.

Well the wheel has turned but NZ First must be brought back to keep the next government honest.

Party vote NZ First

 

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Given some of ACT 's Mp's are total whack jobs , we certainly don't want them to have that kind of power. However, Of course the Greens and/or Labour can always vote with National to stop the more extreme ACT and NZ first policies. 

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Plenty of total whack jobs in the Greens - including one of the leaders - so I doubt they are capable of that type of rational action.

Labour are so idealistic that I doubt they will risk losing even more of their hard line CTU support as well.

There is only one course of action for the country to take right now, and the polls are indicating that the idealistic left are incapable of jumping ship to support it. Instead they are voting for the Greens and NZ First just to spite National. They are, of course, cutting off their selfish little noses to spite their faces.

Compare this with the pragmatic actions of the right in the last election, they realised what needed to be done to stabilise the country, and so they did it, despite the bitter taste it left.

The left need to grow up. 

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I expect many Labour voters will abandon ship and vote NZ First in order to keep Seymour under control

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