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Rabobank's AAA credit rating outlook downgraded to negative from stable
Ratings agency Standard and Poor's has downgraded its outlook for Rabobank's AAA credit rating to negative from stable because of the group's lower earnings in the first half of 2009, partly due to loan losses in Ireland and the Netherlands. The downgrade in the outlook also affects the Dutch bank's Australian and New Zealand subsidiaries, Rabobank Australia and Rabobank New Zealand, which also trades here as Raboplus. Here is the full statement below from Standard and Poor's.
Overview Rating Action Rationale * We consider that Coöperative Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A. (Rabobank Nederland) has performed relatively resiliently through the current economic and market turbulence. * Nevertheless, it is experiencing elevated impairment losses and value adjustments on certain exposures. * We are revising our outlook on Rabobank Nederland to negative from stable, and affirming our 'AAA/A-1+' counterparty credit ratings. * The negative outlook reflects our expectation that the weak economic environment will continue to challenge the banking industry over the rating horizon. Rating Action On Dec. 8, 2009, Standard & Poor's Ratings Services revised its outlooks on Coöperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A. (Rabobank Nederland) and its subsidiaries Rabobank Australia Ltd. and Rabobank New Zealand Ltd. to negative from stable. At the same time, the 'AAA/A-1+' counterparty credit ratings on these entities were affirmed. The ratings on Rabobank Nederland reflect our view of its strong financial position, closely controlled risk profile, and leading franchise in The Netherlands. To date, Rabobank Nederland has demonstrated relative resilience to the unfavorable economic and market environment in our view, largely due to its robust domestic retail business. Nevertheless, we see that following a strong overall performance in 2008, net earnings were 18% lower in the first half of 2009 due to increased impairment losses in Ireland and in certain Dutch corporate sectors. A further factor was domestic margin pressure caused by strong competition for deposits, which now appears to be abating. These factors were partly offset, we consider, by an easing of net losses on structured credit and monoline exposures to €253 million in the first half of 2009, from €1.2 billion in full-year 2008. According to the bank, Rabobank Nederland held €8.7 billion of structured credit assets at June 2009, of which 86% was 'AAA' rated, and had a €737 million exposure to monolines (net of value adjustments). Rabobank Nederland's asset quality is anchored by its Dutch residential mortgage portfolio, which represents 45% of gross customer loans. Reported losses on this portfolio were 2 basis points (bps) in the first half of 2009, below the historic average of 3 bps. However, Rabobank Nederland's overall bad debt costs were 55 bps in the first half, above the 21 bps historic average and 31 bps charge in full-year 2008, due to the economic downturn in Ireland and, to a lesser extent, The Netherlands. Net charge-offs were less than 10 bps, but are likely to rise with unemployment and corporate insolvencies. The impairment allowances amassed in 2008-2009 should mitigate the risk of a further sharp increase in impairment losses in 2010, we believe, but we expect the charge to remain elevated. As a mutual with no equity market access, Rabobank Nederland has consistently maintained a strong capital position, in our view. It targets a Basel II Tier 1 ratio above 12.5% and the actual level at June 2009 was 13.0%. The pro forma risk-adjusted capital ratio after diversification adjustments was 8.3% at June 2009, which we think compares favorably with peers. Its funding and liquidity positions are strong and anchored by its market-leading domestic retail deposit base, which received a strong net inflow in 2008 and the first half of 2009 according to reported figures. We consider Rabobank Nederland to have high systemic importance within the Dutch banking system, reflecting its 40% share of the retail savings market at June 2009 and 30% share of residential mortgages. Outlook The negative outlook reflects our expectation that the weak economic environment will continue to challenge the banking industry over the rating horizon. We expect that Rabobank Nederland's balance sheet and performance will remain resilient relative to peers, but that it will be adversely affected by recessions in its key markets. In particular, we expect its impairment losses to remain elevated in the second half of 2009 and into 2010. A partial offset should come from an increasing net interest margin due to continued asset re-pricing and improved Dutch deposit spreads. A negative rating action could result if we see that credit losses remain persistently high and Rabobank Nederland's risk-adjusted earnings fail to strengthen from the current level. We consider an important metric to be the coverage of impairment losses and value adjustments by pre-provision earnings, excluding one-off items. In addition, a significant merger or acquisition would likely dilute its creditworthiness, in our view. The outlook could return to stable if we see a normalization of impairment losses and margins contributing to a strengthened underlying performance.
Rabobank Chief Financial Officer Bert Bruggink said in a statement he was confident Rabobank could avoid a full downgrade by sticking to its financial targets. Here is his full statement below.
CFO Bert Bruggink is pleased with the affirmation of the AAA rating. "It is positive that we have managed to keep the AAA rating under these difficult economic circumstances, based upon our strong financial position, closely controlled risk profile, and leading franchise in the Netherlands. Currently, we are the only privately owned financial institution with a AAA rating from S&P." His reaction on the change in outlook to negative from stable: "I am confident that we can avoid a negative rating action in the future by staying committed to our financial aims. Bruggink affirmed Rabobank's commitment to its Triple-A rating ambition.
Here is a video we recorded with Bruggink in April.
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Too Big To Fail???
Too Big To Fail???
Funds taken. Bye Bye.
Funds taken. Bye Bye.
Jill Rabobank has a stronger
Jill
Rabobank has a stronger credit rating than the Big 4 Australian banks and the New Zealand government. Its tier 1 capital is almost twice as strong as the Australian banks. Have a read of the Standard and Poor's comments.
You could argue it's too big to fail in Holland. You could say that of any large bank in the world right now, including the Big Australian 4 and Kiwibank. But not the finance companies after October next year.
cheers
Bernard
Bernhard, come the end of
Bernhard, come the end of the Govt guarantee I'm predicting a cash/deposit exodus from finance companies and a fair few failures. Where will this cash go? If the OCR hasn't climbed steeply, deposit rates in NZ will be still less than 5-6% and you did run a story about Aussie deposit rates so maybe that is an option. I think a significant amount of that money will go into NZ residential property (if property continues its slow rise again). What do you think?
the first couple of comments
the first couple of comments are typical of 90% of all comments on this blog - pointless.
<b>curtis</b> : Well done ,
curtis : Well done , just proved your point . Excellent !
@Curtis, is your comment in
@Curtis, is your comment in the 10% or the 90%?
My comment is definitely pointless
Hi Bernard i recall that
Hi Bernard i recall that Standard and Poors in 1994 gave a glowing report to the Orange County area in California how good their finances and economy was,well shortly after the whole lot crashed?Go figure ,or check it out.
Currently there is an "AA
Currently there is an "AA Stable West - Coast Climate Change Weather Bomb" happening.
Thx, W.Kunz. I'll keep the
Thx, W.Kunz. I'll keep the cat in tonight.
I will give a wee
I will give a wee explanation of my brevity this time.
Return on investment is as important to me as safety these days.
RaboBank used to give a great return, when the World was more sane.
It is now INSANE and NZ is as crazy as the rest.
Now that there is no risk involved in short-term investing, with the Government Guarantee, RABOBANK is very poor in its offerings, but it is trying to stave off heavy debt from the Farm Sector it primarily relies upon, hence its downgrade.
A point I made about its future in the past on this BLOG by the way.
Entirely predictable.
The returns are actually abysmal now. They will almost certainly get a lot worse in certain aspects.
Bernard is quite right, it is as sound as any bank, more so than most in New Zealand.
Not that that is saying very much if some projections pan out.
We have had the same conversation with Bernard each time RABOBANK is mentioned, as he points out to Jill in particular this time.
But then he has a vested interest in supporting their cause, if you care to read the by-line at the top of the page.
It is not just the signal I wish to send to RABOBANK, or the readers here.
I used to have quite a lot at play with Rabo in the good old days pre-sub-prime.
THIS TIME, I was just being a little short winded in my blog, due to time constraints earlier today, so I do concede the point. My comment was never aimed at any of you.
In fact I was not aiming my barb at any readers to INFORM this time.
RABOPLUS reads this site too as do lots of other Financial Institutions. They all need to get their act together, if they want to retain INFORMED investors for the LONG HAUL that New Zealand as a HOLE needs.
I do tend to be-LABOUR a point in the NATIONAL game of INTEREST we play out here.
But then I am playing with my money, on my time, with all the shon-key BANKS in one way or another.
Have a nice day....
PS.....And JILL.....no one is too big to fail. The American Banks are falling like nine-pins and getting larger by the week.....and Shon-key Finance Companies here are no better.
PITY it is the poor Investor each time who is now the LOSER and got shafted after having the EFFRONTERY to SAVE for their future with them all.
That was why the INTEREST RATES are artificially FORCED down around the WORLD to try to re-inflate the BUBBLES and scam the punters again and again and again.
To pass the BUCK so to speak.
No wonder I call myself a SORE-LOSER, this was an accident waiting to happen and entirely predictable.
When the vultures come home to roost, we will see who has a credit rating worth having.
It may be RABOBANK....it may not.
Without a GUARANTEE most do not have a PRAYER to keep the investors short term funds here.
The carry trade will carry it OFF.
SORE-LOSER, I believe Bernard has
SORE-LOSER, I believe Bernard has already stated in other postings, that the advertisers on this website have no reflection on the articles, and they are in no way associated. eg. FAI Finance advertises on it. Prior to Hanovers collapse, Hanover had a lot of advertising on here too. Personally I like the way Tech expert Leo Laporte does his online advertising. He only advertises stuff that he has used himself, and he likes the products of, however that probably isn't possible in NZ with it's small population and small number of online advertisers.
Just noticed that Rabo has
Just noticed that Rabo has dropped their oncall rate from 3.6 to 3.5. Not good, so I am moving the rest of my money out. I am one of the first 1000 customers they signed up too, based on my customer ID. I didn't like it how they were giving new customers free cash for signing up, yet their existing customers were given no reward for their loyalty.
Anyone wish to share what
Anyone wish to share what they are doing with their withdrawn Rabo-cash? Specifically?
Thanks, Bernard for at least clarifying Rabobanks standing compared to the 4 pillars..
Sore Loser - did you
Sore Loser - did you say that New Zealand is a HOLE?
Bevan : TSB and their
Bevan : TSB and their oncall pie. 5.5% !
Also banks in Oz are offering some good deals.
Cheers Rob. I do appreciate
Cheers Rob. I do appreciate it. I wish I had more money to make it worth more my while!
I didn't say Bernard was
I didn't say Bernard was biased to Rabobank, but he has a different view to myself as an ex-investor of theirs and other banks as a Sponsor.
He was with the ASB too, but no longer. We agree to differ. I put liquid funds where they will do me the most good, not the banks.
Like ROB says, I was in the top early 1000, but perspectives change with returns offered. They clearly did not want to retain their present customers, by their actions as ROB also pointed out.
If they do not want any money of mine, fine, if they do not want to retain a large investor fine.
If they do not need MONEY invested as is clearly the case, with their declining rates, then all I am doing is pointing out that their is actually no distinction between banks at present with the GG...in the short term market.
There is only what the rates offered is to differentiate until 10th October 2010
And yes Tanya, NZ is a HOLE, I can spell and I can quite categorically state we are a drain pouring money down as fast as the Pollies can suck it in and BLOW it out their JUNKETING arses...
(That is why I call myself a SORE-LOSER). I see them for what they really are. Pigs at the trough. And the JUNKET this week is COPENHAGEN.
I digress...
Any investor who put money into NZ in past week has lost purchasing VALUE immediately no matter what the tiny interest rates offered are.
No different to any other country in decline of its currency. The hope is I presume, that NZ will turn around by the time redemption of funds is made.
That is a gamble, unless hedged. No different to HANDOVER. I am afraid.
Money is looking for a good home.... We have LEAKY BUILDINGS....go figure.
end of RANT.
Who cares! The chick on
Who cares! The chick on the telly's a hottie.
# fairfax O Rouke Says:
# fairfax O Rouke Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
@Curtis, is your comment in the 10% or the 90%?
My comment is definitely pointless
I'm still wetting my pants laughing.....add me to the 90% majority.
# Bevan Says: December 9th,
# Bevan Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Anyone wish to share what they are doing with their withdrawn Rabo-cash? Specifically?
Thanks, Bernard for at least clarifying Rabobanks standing compared to the 4 pillars..
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TSB on call PIE account 5.52% (and they are good to deal with)
SCF 8% with interest payable monthly giving you an effective 8.5%. Only invest with them till Oct 2010 unless the Govt Guarantee is extended. It is great getting interest each month. Especially when I get more than double Rabo were paying me.
I had over a million $ with Rabo. Another of there pre 1000 customers. Other than their perputual notes and a couple of bucks in the master account I don't have anything with them now. They are certainly nowhere near as good as they used to be.
Agree with you SORE-LOSER. That is why I am called WE ARE STUFFED. We are!