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Housing rebound a 'flash in the pan', say Westpac economists
Westpac economists in their latest bulletin argued that the recent pickup in the housing market will not last due to rising interest rates and unemployment. Economists Brendan O'Donovan and Dominick Stephens said that the period of rising house prices was unlikely to last "for the simple reason that longer-term mortgage rates have risen sharply since March." "Lower mortgage rates sparked the market revival, and higher rates will extinguish it. The mortgage rate reversal will have affected buying decisions made in April and May, and so could start showing up as subdued prices from June," they said. The economists noted that the recent pickup was concentrated in the bottom-end of the market "which is more interest rate sensitive due to the dominance of investors and first home buyers." Here is the full Westpac piece:
Current situation New Zealand house sales are rising rapidly. Prices are probably rising too.
- Low mortgage rates were the main factor stimulating the market. But long-term mortgage rates have since risen sharply, undermining the pickup.
- Housing data in the immediate future may be strong, but we predict a return to low sales and gentle price declines in H2 2009.
Considering the environment of global economic carnage, it is extraordinary that the New Zealand housing market is picking up. But picking up it is. Seasonally adjusted house sales have jumped 74% in five months, from rock-bottom to roughly average. The number of days to sell a house has fallen back to 2007 levels. And the number of available listings in Auckland has started to fall. We don't have any reliable price data for 2009 yet, but market activity is an excellent indicator. When houses are selling at this clip, chances are that prices are rising, not falling. The Real Estate Institute reports that the median sale price has risen from $325,000 to $340,000 in the past three months. We doubt that house prices have risen that much on a like-for-like basis (medians can be skewed by the composition of sales). We would put the house price increase for the second quarter of 2009 at more like 1%. The main factor behind the price pickup is falling mortgage rates. In March 2008 the average two-year fixed mortgage rate offered to new customers was 9.6%. By February this year it had fallen to 5.9% - a 40% decline in the cost of finance. The five-year fixed rate fell from 9.5% to 6.6% over a similar period, allowing buyers to lock in cheap financing. Long-term mortgage rates have a huge influence on house price inflation in New Zealand, so the market reaction is in fact unsurprising, despite the recession. Indeed, in our last housing update six months ago we predicted lower mortgage rates would create a market thaw in 2009. Monetary policy is definitely working in New Zealand. The market pickup has been concentrated at the bottom end of the market, which is more interest rate sensitive due to the dominance of investors and first home buyers. The second cause of this housing market pickup is rising net migration. In 2007 and 2008 hoards of New Zealanders moved to Australia, almost negating arrivals of foreign migrants. Net migration (arrivals less departures) was just 3,800 in 2008, the lowest annual total since 2000. But in the past few months the number of Kiwis crossing the Tasman has plunged, pushing the net migration figures up sharply. There were 5,500 net migrants in the first four months of this year. We expect 2009 net migration to total 20,000 people, or 0.5% of the population. Combine this faster population growth with the ultra-low level of building activity, and we quickly arrive at the conclusion that New Zealand is about to suffer a housing shortage. Housing shortages do not necessarily create house price increases if other fundamentals are working against the market. But they certainly help support prices, in the short run at least. The final factor influencing prices may be the changing news regarding tax cuts. Property is a very effective income tax shelter. When the new Government was elected there was an expectation that income tax rates would start falling. The value of property as a tax shelter would wane if tax rates fell just as umbrellas are less useful in drier climates. As it turns out, events have overtaken us and tax cuts are now less certain. So the value of property as a tax shelter is holding up after all. Will it last? To put it bluntly, this period of rising house prices is unlikely to last. We expect prices to start falling again soon, for the simple reason that longer-term mortgage rates have risen sharply since March. Lower mortgage rates sparked the market revival, and higher rates will extinguish it. The mortgage rate reversal will have affected buying decisions made in April and May, and so could start showing up as subdued prices from June. Mortgage rates are likely to continue weighing on the market for the next few years. Short-term rates might fall, but only temporarily, and long-term rates are more likely to rise. There are many factors keeping New Zealand mortgage rates above the March lows. (1) International term rates have risen as deflation fears have subsided. (2) The credit crunch is forcing banks to pay more to secure funds for on-lending. (3) The Reserve Bank of New Zealand is close to the end of its OCR easing cycle. There are a couple of other reasons to doubt the longevity of this housing market pickup. Unemployment is set to rise further in 2009, forcing more sales and creating greater uncertainty for potential buyers. And credit conditions remain tight. The only positive factor for house prices in late 2009 is expected to be continuing strong net migration. This serves to keep our prediction of price declines modest, but is not yet strong enough to have us calling sustained price increases. Predictions The next batch of housing data, released next week, will probably show that May was still strong. However, we expect a return to low sales volumes and falling prices in the second half of 2009. The second half of 2009 will likely be slower than the first half, but will be better than 2008. Our price forecast is for a 5% decline over the next 18 months, with the risks on either side of that mostly determined by the evolution of interest rates. Our house price forecast remains less pessimistic than others. The more pessimistic forecasters out there seem influenced by the fact that New Zealand's house price to income ratio is much higher than it was in the 1990s. However, there is a deep flaw in assuming that the old house price to income ratio will reassert itself: changes in taxes, interest rates, and inflation have made property ownership more attractive relative to the 1990s. Restricted land supply might also have pushed up prices. So the house price to income ratio should be higher now than it was in the 1990s. Our own investor value model takes account of changing taxes, interest rates and inflation. It suggests house prices are about 8% overvalued at present. That overvaluation can be corrected by a combination of gentle price declines, and time.
Why would anyone in their
Why would anyone in their sane mind listen to bank economists? They are every bit as appalling in their predictions as Treasury which is why the banks and the Govt. are so far wrong so often.
They operate without any world view.
<i>They operate without any world
They operate without any world view.
Yes! Call it world view, call it philosophy, but yes.
That single fact is probably the most important thing I've learned reading this site (which is an excellent site).
Well, if they say that
Well, if they say that bank interest rates are rising they are probably correct. This is pretty easy for them to check.
I still find the migration situation interesting - what the hell are new (or returning) migrants doing for jobs?
taking your job.
taking your job.
<blockquote> taking your job. </blockquote>
Nah - its easier / cheaper to offshore the job.
IanC - the migration figures
IanC - the migration figures are totally exagerrated
There's no way net migration will be 20K this year, barring another 9/11 or something - it needs to hit around 2K net every month for the rest of the year to get to that figure, and the gains are always down over winter
It will be 15K at best
the majority of gains are from fewer people leaving, rather than increases in numbers of immigrants. Many of the people who are not leaving who might have left two years ago are young recent graduates who would have gone on the OE. They are staying home and will be bunking up with mates or with mum and dad. These are the same people who will be hardest hit by unemployment, being inexperienced - apparently only about 30% of architecture graudates this year have got work
this will have minimal impact on housing
the problem with these economists is they are just looking at the raw data and continue to fail to look beyond the data (with the exception of the fine fellows at ANZ who look much more deeply and are far more perceptive - if you read any Bank economist reports read theirs)
Viking: I'd rather trust a
Viking: I'd rather trust a banking economist than a real estate agent by a long way, (but thats probably only because I rate estate agents so poorly). So why I came here, to look for info to make my own mind up....
At the end of the day all I can see are the poor fundimentals (as I see them) and I agree with Westpac (for once) and Bernard....this is a dead cat bounce. As moving forward there is a lot less $ about, so a very subdued consumer/real estate scene and for many years (5). I think the recent blip is ppl jumping in now to get on the treadmill as they are afraid the market will take off again and leave them behind, I think it was a mistake but that's their choice.
IanC: jobs, well not a lot, few kiwis I know in this situation are either stuck in the UK in negative equity or back here pretty broke.......the rest well, but even a not so well paid job here is better than a not so well paid job in the 3rd world, its all relative I guess.
regards
Thing
Westpac's views are interesting here.
Westpac's views are interesting here.
A slow 5% drop over the next 18 months - seems a reasonable prediction to me
Although they have said they think property is still 8% overvalued, and implied that house price declines might be less or more than 5% depending on what happens to interest rates
As most seem to be saying interest rates will rise over the next 12 months that means the chance of a greater than 5% decline must be real
If you take a middle
If you take a middle of the road ground from the economists who predict another 10-15% drop over the next 18 months and the others who see 5% over the next 18 months I'm going for an 8 - 10% drop over this time.
There is no question that interest rates will and have to rise for all sorts of reasons. Taking out a large mortgage without costing this rise in is nothing short of irresponsible - but then thats what a lot of people are still doing in this marketplace. They think the market will rise more and more -- and place all they have into an overpriced property. In the end who will lose??
Check the facts. How often
Check the facts. How often are bank economists right over a 12 or 24 month period. Very rarely! All they do is give you the reasons why their predictions have turned out to be incorrect.
It has always amazed me that despite all the evidence and information put before them on an almost daily basic, not to mention the gifted people they get to interview, I have rarely seen a wealthy bank manager. That should give you a very good clue!
I've never seen a destitute
I've never seen a destitute bank manager either - its a risk/reward tradeoff. All you are doing is criticising them for not taking risks and accepting a lower level of wealth.
There is a serious response bias in wealth - its easy to notice wealthy people who succeeded in their (risky) ventures. Beyond high profile examples, you rarely hear about people who failed or have done poorly - its human nature to downplay these things.
Because of the RBNZ's actions
Because of the RBNZ's actions in relieving the problems of those who took out excessive mortgages between 2002 and 2007, the latest group of home buyers will be hoping that Bollard can somehow weave his magic again. However with the OCR at 2.5% there is nothing further that he can do.
The RBNZ can now sit
The RBNZ can now sit back and watch its own little ocr bomb explode on all those silly enough to believe the RE mob and the media and the oh so friendly banks. Bought property lately with the help of your friendly bank and an 80%+ mortgage? well now you can start worrying as to just how high rates will go and by the way, Bollard has used up all his ammo.
By the time another 15% has been sliced off property prices, rates will be over 10% and still climbing because the demand for credit worldwide is set to go ballistic.
No matter which way you do the numbers, there can be no other outcome.
On top of that little credit cost problem, we have inflation on its way with the first signs being the rise in oil, petrol and diesel costs.
Isn't that a contradiction, Wally?
Isn't that a contradiction, Wally?
"... another 15% has been sliced off property prices..." and "..we have inflation on its way..."
Jeez Wally, that's one nasty
Jeez Wally, that's one nasty scenario you've just painted there! If it comes to fruition, I'll be relieved I decided not to buy right now. There are just too many variables to consider, and most of them aren't good, so I'll just sit back and wait some more.......
No Janet, the two events
No Janet, the two events can take place at the same time. Normally one would expect assets to increase in price to more or less match inflation, but here, we are dealing with a property sector in a debt crisis that is massive and facing rapidly rising costs for credit, plus rising unemployment due to the market collapse. Even if property prices were to remain stable, inflation would slash away at real value. They will not remain stable however and the decline will if anything get worse. The other risk is faced by those who leave their cash in the banks at low rates of return. That's why the cost of bond issues are rising in the States and here. Investors are saying no thanks, pay me more or go without my cash. It also explains the rush to commodities, especially those in short supply. So we may see a 15% fall in nominal property prices over two years but in real terms when you factor in the inflation destruction of the currency, the fall will be far greater.
Wally/Matt are you same person?
Wally/Matt are you same person?
No Jerry, go back to
No Jerry, go back to playing with Tom.
Steven Says: "At the end
Steven Says:
"At the end of the day all I can see are the poor fundamentals (as I see them) and I agree with Westpac (for once) and Bernard"¦."
This is a turn up for the books from the banks....talking down the market...
Far more honest appraisal.
The important part is not if the details are correct, but the overall opinion is.
Now all we need is the realestate agents to be honest.
What are you saying here
What are you saying here Steptoe? That REINZ and Barfoot and Thompson jack their statistics. I think Barfoots have always been very honest with the reporting of results for decades, be they good results or bad results.
Still waiting for an intelligent
Still waiting for an intelligent and constructive comment from Jerry, I think we'll be waiting for ever.
No we are not the same person, although I did live down in Marlborough once where Wally lives.
How is it down there Wally? Its a wonderful part of the country.
Whats the housing market like there?
Jerry, face the reality, even
Jerry, face the reality, even the Bank Economists (like Westpac) are saying there will be further house price drops
When the bank economists are saying that you know its a serious reality
PS Looked at a section
PS Looked at a section today, vendor is asking 260K, down from original asking price of 340K
Overheard the agent saying to the vendor that the market is dead
"What are you saying here
"What are you saying here Steptoe? That REINS and Barfoot and Thompson jack their statistics."
No ...stats are stats...that doesnt mean they are truly representative or the interpretation, spin put on them is correct and honest....
Lets face it to-wards the end of the boom, blaming those who genuinely interpreted the trends, (end of the boom) for the down turn really pushes the limits of credibility, and the continued talking up when everything is falling around their ears, certainly continued the lack of creditability.
steptoe...exactly. Its like the immigration
steptoe...exactly. Its like the immigration stats - they sound significant until you look behind the headlines and see that the increases are caused by kiwis not heading overseas in particular young kiwis (with limited career experience and funds) rather than a flood of cashed up immigrants.
Parties with vested interests constantly put their own deceptive spin on statistics
OK Jerry, lets get away
OK Jerry, lets get away from the 4 year old kindergarten stuff
Give us three reasons why you think real estate will perform strongly in the next 2 years...
Of course Barfoots will be
Of course Barfoots will be selling more, there are less estate agencies out there, so they will get more business. I dont agree with westpac saying we wont have enough houses. To me what do people do when things get tough. They get flatmates, they go home to mum and dad. Suddenly a lot of houses could be empty.