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What's happening to house prices and interest rates
Bernard Hickey talks to Oliver Driver and Carly Flynn at TV3's Sunrise programme about house prices and interest rates after figures from Barfoot and Thompson show relatively strong house sales in April and the major banks refuse to pass on last week's Official Cash Rate Cut.
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About time you agreed with
About time you agreed with the market and me. At last... Thanks Bernard. Yep we all heard it, that bit from 2.38 minutes into the interview to 2.51 minutes into the interview. Now is a fantastic time to buy...
Previous to this time I thought you were going to continue your battle to completely talk the market down to support your hugely wrong speculative opinions which would have been much to your credibilities demise. Thank goodness common sense has prevailed, and guess what your ego is still intact - wasn't that hard after all was it...
Hopefully your lemming followers are not too brain washed by your previous comments to think it was a slip of the tongue. Congratulations and well done...subtle but nice...
@POP sorry but Bernards thoughts
@POP sorry but Bernards thoughts and those like mine have always been based on sound finanicals and fundamentals. Just becasue a blip has occurred (and most likely a statistical one at that) does not mean the end result won't change.
Yes it is a good time to buy compared to the last 2-3 years but doesn't mean it won't get better.
And please don't mention common sense and NZ house prices in the same sentence. They bear no resemblance....
If the price of something goes up 100% in a 2-3 year timeframe, and then back 10-15% with no valid economic reasons (i.e rents going up, incomes keeping pace, large inflation) then its a speculative bubble and like all before them will end in tears. The best thing for kiwis is for prices either to drop another 20-30% at least or stay flat for 5-6 years. Houses produce nothing, and divert capital from where its required.
The sooner we realise this the better in the longtem.
@Realist - rubbish - the
@Realist - rubbish - the bubble as you put it, is an axis to the economy, and if you think a drop in prices is good for kiwis, then you must think i am a foreigner, which i am not.
stability within the property market will drive confidence. i am not talking about speculators making a buck here, i am talking about people keeping their homes, or knowing their investment will hold. as soon as that happens with property, if it isn't already happening, then the ripple effect will take place and confidence will return to kiwis who can then start thinking about what they consider there biggest asset, and start thinking about expanding their businesses without the flip side of losing their home.
and until you stop taking your tall poppy syndrome tablets, you will not see the forest through the trees.
listen and you will hear....
@POP - Houses are not
@POP -
Houses are not investments. And the problem with NZ is that we think they are, and let them drive the economy. I have no problem with building houses, selling houses and all the associated employment that goes with property as such (construction and so forth) but the insane idea that buying a house for $400K, seeing it go to $600k and then borrowing all the extra supposed wealth from overseas somehow benefits us a nation. Esp when all those interest repayments for the next 10-20 years leave the country.
It is bubble and unsustainable and until it corrects itself no-one wins. I would prefer property to stay stable and prices not rise for the next 5 years, but as long as kiwis have the stupid idea that houses prices always go up and spend that imaginery wealth (that got us into this mess) then the worse it will get. The madness either ends now or later with more carnage.
And no tall poppy syndrome here. Just a realist who thinks that its crazy for us to buy (on the whole) substandard housing, with rubbish infrastructure at the end of the world for prices/income ratios way higher than most parts of Europe.
We are not a rich country (income/asset wise) so why pretend to be one. The credit card bill has been overused for 30 years and sooner or later so-one has to pay the bill.
And yes I have owned rental properties etc, bought and sold land and so forth. But just becuase i was part of the maddness at one point doesn't mean I condone it or didnt' see where it was all going.
@Realist... I agree with you
@Realist...
I agree with you 100%, assets produce income, and unless that is cashflow, then it is purely speculative when it comes to property if purchased in the hopes of a rise - which is also the reason some individuals will be in a pickle with the IRD, if they purchased only on the grounds of an expected gain. anyone with negatively geared property from the get go will be in this camp - because why else would they be buying?
i am saying that housing is important, and stability in that area will benefit the country. I am not here saying it will double every 7 years, i am talking about homes not houses
the reason i can say this is that although i do have investment properties, i never treated them as an ATM, hence the LVR remains okay as no further borrowings have occurred.
also - i have just got off the phone, with one of my tenants giving notice, as they have just purchased their own home, and congratulations to them. Now is the time to buy whilst everything is still on special. they might be on special for some time granted, but the criteria to get in the door is tightening, so if they can afford the repayments, are getting what they need as a family, good on them.
The long term interest rates
The long term interest rates are down by about 2%. I dont think the current low rates are the medians and these rates will prevail for long. Assuming that a 300K property has an interest advantage of 2% for the next 3 years, the break-even price adjustment can be about $12,000. But the market reacts much more than $12,000 in terms of price. The root cause of the unrealistic increase in house prices ocurred in the past can be largely attributed to the greed driven excessive lending by banks, which goes beyond the rental returns and income based affordability. banks can always find a 'model' to support their actions but they do not fit the logic or commonsense.
@ Bernard Bernard Bernard Oh
@ Bernard Bernard Bernard
Oh so uncharacteristically silent you have become. Usually you welcome the banter, being self proclaimed controversial yourself. I will go with the thought that you have planted the seed, to look back on in time to come, when you can say, wow, i planted that, i already told you about that at the time, did you not see me quickly throw the seeds out the window of my moving car in the middle of that stormy night...
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