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Have your say: Govt says NZ monetary policy fine, RBNZ to do more housing work
Finance Minister Bill English released Government's response to the Finance and Expenditure Committee's inquiry into New Zealand's monetary policy framework, saying the existing framework was "sound" and "world-class." However, Government also recognised that with the current framework, the Reserve Bank's ability to deal with shocks, such as international oil price rises, was limited.
The response argued that monetary policy on its own could not deliver a growing, open and competitive economy and stressed the need for strong initiatives from Government to deliver higher incomes and living standards for New Zealanders.
"In the long run, monetary policy influences the price level and little else, as economic growth is more dependent on the behaviours of households and firms, innovation, and the quality of investments, infrastructure, Government regulation and spending decisions, which all feed into productivity and the overall competitiveness of the economy," Government said.
The response also said Government would look to increase the Reserve Bank's involvement in wider reviews of the housing market and get it looking at options to deal with other problems.
Despite not currently changing New Zealand's monetary policy framework, Government did say it would continue to look at how the framework could be updated over the long run.
"(W)e can continue to learn and adapt the monetary policy framework to new challenges. The last economic upturn has taught us that managing asset bubbles matters," it said.
Former Foreign Minister Winston Peters pushed for the the review into New Zealand's monetary policy framework, arguing that three economic indicators - employment, exporting competitiveness, and the exchange rate - should be written in to the Reserve Bank Act to ensure they were weighted equally by the central bank in its attempt to regulate inflation.
Government declined to do this, saying: "a shift to multiple objectives could be damaging to the real economy if it were perceived to signal a lesser focus on controlling inflation."
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What do you think?
Is English right in saying the existing framework is sound, or does it need to be changed/updated? How?
Should the RBNZ be made to focus on multiple objectives, or should it just stick with inflation?
How could New Zealand better deal with international price shocks?
Comments below please.
2 Comments
Yeah right. No country can
Yeah right. No country can prosper with a monetary policy such as ours which primarily encourage excessive (overseas) debt creation. :(
The real question to be
The real question to be addressed is why do our politicians cling to a system that has so
obviously failed us?
The reserve bank needs to
The reserve bank needs to stop setting interest rates and let the market do it. They have proven to be totally inadeqate at it. If the market was allowed to set the rates then when demand for money is high and supply low then the price of money (interest) would be high and visa versa.
History has proven time and time again that artificially setting any price never works and allways leads to either chronic supply or demand problems. inflation takes care of itself when normal supply and demand dynamics are allowed to work.
the reserve bank needs to stick with making physical money and focus more on regulating banks and financial institutions so they act ethically and have healthy balance sheets.
In retrospect other than the
In retrospect other than the housing boom and stupid free 100% mortgages by banks after Govern restrictions taken off....everything is basically because off shore lending, sub prime and stuff....
So to lay an imported crisis on our system, is not logical...
And considering NZ is one of the few, if not the only country not bailing out banks, companies and throwing out 'Xmas gifts'....then we are in a more solid position than others....which in its self says our system has seen us OK leading up....not perfect but OK
When the Gov changed the parameters of the NZRB about 10 yes go just leaving them with the OCR to play with, this has restricted what they could do.
Introspect, that may have been a good move, maybe thats why we are in better shape and not followed other countries, on the other hand I could argue the opposite to....what ever..it was right for the time
Now, no matter what we do international influences will be seeing use go further down, and the NZRB need other tools to control banks so their legal interest is not for the shareholders but for the good of the country
Like the rest of the
Like the rest of the world's politicians and central bankers, they (the RBNZ and NZ Govt) are deluded. Governments created this problem by allowing their central banks to increase their money supplies exponentially, leading to one bubble after another and unprecedented global debt levels. So, the clowns who created this problem (Greenspan, etc, etc) and the politicians behind them are now supposed to fix the problem?? The same guys that created it in the first place!! Yeah, right..
We are heading for a depression, make no mistake. Our best hope is that it is only as bad as the 1930s.
Our only hope is a return to sanity with policies such as these:
- Buy up some decent gold reserves and tie the NZD to a fixed gold price band. All paper currencies (backed with thin air) are heading for collapse. The only answer is to return to the store of value which has endured over millenia. Every idiot thinks that devaluation is a good thing in respect to export competitiveness, etc. If it is such a great strategy, why don't we just devalue by 90%? We'll be really "rich" then. We could then give Gideon Gono (Zimbabwe's central banker) a call and ask him about high-speed printing presses.
- Cut all taxes down to a flat 10-15%
- Lay out a constitution mandating balanced govt budgets without the ability to run deficits.
Alas, none of this will happen. Instead, we will borrow more, spend more and print up more paper money...all this will lead to high inflation, more wealth destruction and a much lower standard of living. It's very simple, you cannot spend more than you earn forever....you will go bust eventually.
A steam engine uses a
A steam engine uses a difficult to control boiler to generate steam and uses an adjustable regulator to highly effectively control the amount of mechanical power as and when it is necessary to change it.
NZ removed the regulator and told the engine driver to control the speed by removing fuel or adding fuel as necessary. It works for petrol fired steam engines or jet engines but not for coal fired steam engines or an economy.
Evidently the NZ government has some reasons for doing it this way.
John Key wanted to turn
John Key wanted to turn us into a financial service centre and tax haven for his banking buddies;
John Key interview with Fran Wild NZ Herald July 20 2005, have a read folks and look where his beloved Ireland, that he wanted model us on, is now.
"Why not have an offshore banking industry based here?" he asks.
"In the right conditions you could attract 200 banks to register here - each with a CEO and staff. You could attract insurance companies. Bring back lots of Kiwi accountants and lawyers. Single out clusters - such as high-class yachts - or other special sectors as the Irish did."
"If you get the framework of the economy right the market will sort it out."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/company-taxation/news/article.cfm?c_id=691&obj...
The model of perpetual growth that Key and his cabinet executive and the army of unfettered free market radicals that have infested our public service for 50 years or more, is now debunct for all to see. Cant wait to find out what plan B or C might hold for us.
Quite simply you can't keep creating more credit, suposedly borrowed forward, to be backed by the assets it creates in the future, without keeping a very good eye on just whether the planet has enough sustainable resources to build those assets, and when it does exceed that capability, hyper inflation causes violent instability or even worse extinction is not outside the realm of possibilities. Continual excess liquidity of created credit will eventually see us poo in our own nest.
http://www.millenniumassessment.org/en/index.aspx
http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.earth.html
No wonder the dero's are hard out looking for another planet that will support life.
But just who do you think will have the money to afford to buy a seat?
Iain P - got a
Iain P - got a good laugh on the 2005 reference :-)
It never ceases to amaze me how governments the world over are managing to find 101 ways to say - we'll stick with the status quo!
Jeez Iain I almost had
Jeez Iain I almost had a laughing fit after reading that, especially this little JK pearler: "Bring back lots of Kiwi accountants and lawyers." I couldn't imagine a worse nightmare. Neglecting productive enterprise in favour of a paper shuffling pseudo-economy is exactly what got us into this mess.
Governments stick with the status
Governments stick with the status quo because nobody - nobody - actually knows where the world's economies are going, or what should be done to fix their own neck of the woods. So you have two choices - jump in a new direction, which may turn out to be wrong, or stay as is. You will receive less political flack for the latter choice if it all goes wrong, because you can blame others.
First of all lets not
First of all lets not be small minded and look at whats really going on here. How about starting at the top:
1) Global monetary policy and credit creation is controlled by a small group. It's a monopoly on the medium of exchange being credit.
2) Money is debt. This group creates credit which is debt then charges interest on it.
3) Fractional reserve banking. After the central banks have created the credit the commercial banks are allowed to lend up to about 90% of their capital reserves.
4) Income tax was created by governments to help pay for interest on money borrowed that the government them selves have the legal right to create and issue interest free.
I believe complete monetary reform is the most important issue right now.
Follow the white rabbit:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&ei=HDWfSbHRO...
A little warning from across
A little warning from across the Tasman for Billy the finance wise whiz kid...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=a5R.R6HC4qtE&refer=a...
"saying the existing framework was
"saying the existing framework was "sound" and "world-class." However, Government also recognised that with the current framework. . . " world class is hardly a recommendation.
Gold is not the answer, a primary responsibility a Government has is to protect private property and and money in the "bank" needs to be treated as that (private property) unless it is loaned to someone else. Therefore the Government needs to provide people with access to a reserve account that pays zero interest and has zero risk of being lost (and it can't be loaned to anyone else by the bank that holds it). So you are saying that a central bank has to have an amount of gold in the vault exactly equal to the amount of money in circulation? This might work if every dollar in circulation is paper money but a modern economy doesn't work like that.
The answer is split banks into a trading function (a commodity utility that could even be totally internet based) and an investment function (all other banks and financial institutions and all of these listed and/mutuals/depositor owned). There's nothing wrong with fractional banking "per-se" (and it shouldn't be treated as a conspiracy), leverage allows money to be created/loaned cheaply into productive investments (but a zero interest reserve deposit should be re-introduced)
The fix is to split the banks, lower taxes, lower public servants wages by the same amount seed capitalise a bunch of new (local) banks, and let the existing lot fall over if they are going to. No guarantees!
International price shocks - let a floating exchange rate sort it out but don't artificially prop the currency up with high local interest rates (or currency swaps with other central banks).
"Income tax was created by
"Income tax was created by governments to help pay for interest on money borrowed that the government them selves have the legal right to create and issue interest free."
Absolutely! there is also another justification and that is the "protection of private property" argument above. By printing more money then the value of it is eroded (along with trust) and foreign debtors aren't going to be happy - the exchange rate will be forced down.
Alastair - If only you
Alastair - If only you could get a large proportion of decent civil minded people to watch 3 hr documentaries such as Money Masters and study the tried and tested successful debt free based monetary systems of days gone by, how things could be so different.
Zeitgeist Addendum is another very good award winning documentary of about 2.5 hr;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT-2fenmLnc
But if you dont have that amount of time these 3 excerpts(about 30 min) are full of hard hitting facts;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpYTVJ9ZxD4
I am not so sure
I am not so sure many commenters here understand the nature of credit.
http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2009/02/21/opinion-bank-na...
I know the topic always creates lively debate but presumably there is only one right answer? In the blogsphere it is almost impossible to form a consensus on even the basic principals and birds of a feather tend to flock together so that people tend to separate into camps where discussion is effectively impossible.
From my point of view it is a worthy goal to get to grips with the topic at such a time as today.
People tend to think the bank lends something to you that comes from nothing that you are required to repay which is of course fraud. It would be fraud if that happened.
That does not actually happen though. The bank just expects you to pay for what you receive *when* or after you receive it. You dont "receive" credit. All you recieve is a credit limit as a spending limit. As you spend you are asked to repay.
It is a very simple honest principal that more or less nobody can understand once they believe credit is money coming from thin air. Yes the bank does create bank money as a book keeping entry. But none of this bank money ever exists outside of the banks books.
gold is not the answer,
gold is not the answer, all that glitters is not gold, including gold. try living inside an ingot. it is very dense- so what. it reflects yellow - so what. it is over valued - POP - yep just like oil, fx, property etc. it is only good for carrying around in your pocket. and that was in the days before electronic banking. now you can carry your exchangeable product on a thin magnetic stripe on the back of you Amex.
i would rather have a house thankyou. i could even paint it gold, that would be one ingot you could fit inside...
Thanks for the link Iain,
Thanks for the link Iain, most informative couple of hours of video. Well worth a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT-2fenmLnc
This must have been said
This must have been said on the basis that if the lie is big enough our prespective may be too narrow to notice.
You could argue "world class" but that standard has got most all countries of the world into dire economic strife. As for delivering the primary role of the RBNZ in maintaining financial stability, that has been an abject failure.
If Bill's view is to be believed we don't need to change anything - just carry on the same only with some government stimulus and the extension of some more credit - and all will come right.
I think the RBNZ's role should be limited to maintaining financial stability. To achieve that you probably want someone other than an economist in charge. Someone who at least aspires to do better than this extract from an interview with Grant Spencer in the Business Spectator:
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Grant-Spencer-$pd20090209-P448B?opendocument&src=rss
Someone who can see the obvious coming rather than notice then react to what has already happened when it shows up in the stats.
Also covered by Alex here:
http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2009/02/11/rbnzs-spencer-s...
Peter R, A free market
Peter R,
A free market stabilises itself through spontaneous order. True capitalism doesn't need a central bank to provide stability. Monetary policy is a form of intervention, which never works and creates the opposite effect.
AS I understand it, our
AS I understand it, our whole economic system in the west is basically controlled by the central banks ie the federal reserve in the united states, and here in new zealand the Reserve Bank. This type of system goes back in history, and if im not mistaken, is one of the things america tried to abolish when it was been settled, as this system was in use in england at the time "the bank of england'.
THey have control of our financial system, through control of the money supply, which effects the amount of inflation, and through interest rates, the 'price of money'
Also, they loan money to the government, at interest, which we the public then have to pay through income tax.
THis system is fraudulent, as the bankers are making money out of loans
we need to overthrow this corrupt system which benefits the few investors in central banks!!
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