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Mother in law's guide to term deposits and mortgages
New Zealand's love affair with fixed rate mortgages may be about to end, while many savers are rediscovering their passion for finance companies. A few months ago I surveyed the market for term deposit rates and mortgages to see who had the best deals and whether to opt for long term or short term savings accounts and loans. So much has changed since then that it's worth revisiting this area, in particular the ideas that fixed mortgage rates will always be cheaper than variable rate mortgages and finance companies are too risky to invest in. So what's changed?
Firstly, the Reserve Bank has slashed the Official Cash Rate (OCR) from 8.25% to 6.5% in the last 3 months, including the unprecedented 1% cut on October 23. Most economists are saying it will be cut again to 6% on December 4. Secondly, the government announced plans on October 12 to guarantee deposits worth up to NZ$1 million in banks, building societies, finance companies and credit unions. The guarantee scheme hasn't been completely finalised, but is expected to last for at least two years. Finally, the economic news in the last month has been awful. Business confidence crashed, retail spending was weak, home construction slumped and new lending has dried up. Economists are now forecasting a longer and deeper recession and are rapidly cutting their forecasts of where the OCR will bottom out. Some are saying it could fall below 4% by the end of next year. JP Morgan is saying it could be cut to 3.25%. All these factors have transformed the equations for borrowers and savers. Here's my observations on the best options for borrowers and savers. One caveat first. As I said a few months ago, this is what I'd suggest my retired mother in law do with her savings and what I'd say to my sister in law if she needed to roll over her mortgage. This is not financial advice. Everyone is different and this is just what I'd say to these two relatives. But my insights are independent and rely on regular observations of what's happening to interest rates, the economy and financial institutions. Term deposits (See all the rates here for call rates, for up to 1 year and over 1 year) The government's deposit guarantee changes the landscape utterly. Where once finance companies were a risky prospect with higher interest rates, they are now as safe as the government and offer higher interest rates. The likes of South Canterbury Finance, Marac Finance, Allied Nationwide and Fisher and Paykel Finance are all offering 9-10% from one to two years. They have all applied for the guarantee and are certain to receive it. Meanwhile, the banks are offering no more than 6.75%, but are in effect just as 'safe' as the finance companies. It makes sense to put savings with a finance company, but not for terms any longer than 18 months to 2 years because the guarantee is likely to be withdrawn or changed after that. I'd stick to the highest rated finance companies mentioned above. Getting money out of the government would not be easy or fast in the event of a collapse. Also move quickly. The finance companies are likely to drop their rates closer to the bank rates once they have filled their coffers and have run out of places to lend on the deposits, which is happening quickly. Mortgages (See all the mortgage rates here) Both fixed and variable rate mortgages have dropped and the gap is narrowing. Where once variable rates were as much as 3% higher than fixed rates, that gap is down to around 2% and falling. It's still cheaper to go with a fixed rate mortgage, particularly the 1 year rates being offered by many banks. But there is now a serious risk that a 2 year fixed rate taken out now would be higher than a variable rate being offered in the second year of the mortgage. The OCR is expected to drop to around 4-5% by the end of 2009. Given variable rates are typically around 3% above the OCR, this means variable mortgage rates could be around 7-8% by then. Currently Kiwibank and the big banks are offering around 7.9% for their one year rates and around 9.5% for their variable rates. It makes sense therefore to go for the 1 year rates and then aim to pick up the lower variable rate when the 1 year rate expires.
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I'd still be hesitant to
I'd still be hesitant to put money in finance companies. The insurance scheme is still being worked out, and with these things the Devil is in the details.
With borrowing, why not even borrow fixed for 6months, those rates seem about the same, and you can probably pick up a better deal when it expires.
Bernard I think the outlook
Bernard
I think the outlook for falling official interest rates as far as the eye can see for New Zealand is optimistic.
The planned and possible beneficiaries of US Government largesse as noted here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27443968/
provides ample scope for building infaltionary expectations, now that immediate and necessary liquidations seem to have been completed and covered by the following injections.
To date the Fed has injected $900 billion domestically: http://www.omo.co.nz/aggregate_open_market_operations_lv.gif
The US Treasury has injected $115 billion so far under TARP: view here, Table 11 Withdrawals/other withdrawals : http://www.fms.treas.gov/webservices/show/?ciURL=/dts/08102800.pdf
I believe these plans have infinite capacity to flood the system with credit/money and it will be exported as we have already seen with the currency swap line set up between the US Federal Reserve and the RBNZ.
Our own liquidity injection measures will not become fully apparent until after the election, but I am sure in line with other international measures they will have a copycat structure.
The RBNZ will be constrained in my view by an extreme collapse in the value of the NZD if they pursue the planned cuts envisaged.
You would be foolish to
You would be foolish to say to people to go for a 2 year investment. the 2 year g/tee operates from 12/10/08 to 12/10/10 and no comfort of extension. so if you invested today the 31st October then your investment is not g/teed from close 12/10/10 to 31/10/10. people seem to be oblivious to this fact.
Maturity dates must be prior to 12/10/10.
Yes, I agree with VJ.
Yes, I agree with VJ. Deposits with guaranteed firms must mature prior to 12 October 2010.
Can you imagine the amount of money falling due for repayment at that time when that money has been lent out on terms maturing well past 2 years - for example a 4 year loan on a Japenese car.
I can see now that some serious questions should be asked by the RBNZ as to maturity profiles, and that any mismatch is an event of default and money is not covered. But that in itself brings its own problems as the shareholders just walk away saying that when they were given a guarantee the 'mismatch' event was not a requirement.
And then we turn our monds to these mortgage trusts. what a shambles. i read the NBR today and alli could see was desperation. There is no required investment (ie shareholder capital) in these vehicles, they probably have high arrears looking at the non-bank lending they meet. they likely have no financial ratios under their trust deed, and yet they want the taxpayer to bail them out.
All i can say is that come 11 October 2010 i will have all my cash in a box under my bed because the NZ Taxpayer will be in no position to bail out all these firms on the 12th as repayments fall due.
i look forward to your views Bernard.
term deposits maturing after the
term deposits maturing after the 2 year period are still protected if the bank crashes within that 2 year guarantee period.
At this stage after the 2 year period nothing is guaranteed. I still think invest long. Better to lock into a reasonable rate now than accept possible 4% term deposits in 2010.
I'm not too sure that
I'm not too sure that much has changed.
Sure, the Government is going to guarantee bank deposits but the banks are sound without this guarantee. And even if that assessment proves to be wrong the fact is that the Government would bail out a major bank whether or not it had a Government guarantee. It couldn't afford not to - the impact on the NZ economy would be too severe.
And I do not agree with the suggestion that a Government guarantee makes finance companies as safe as the Government. Putting a Porsche engine in a Cortina doesn't make it a Porsche. For further thoughts on why finance company investment is a bad idea see http://www.sharesight.co.nz/2008/08/01/a-seriously-flawed-business-model/
It is true that the economy is looking even worse but that has already been fully reflected and then some in share market prices. Now there's a thought when it comes to what your mother-in-law should do with her money!
Yes Darryl, i agree with
Yes Darryl, i agree with you there.
But i am sure there will be some people who don't realise about the cut-off date as it stands today.
As well, many will be there on the 13th saying 'where is my money' finding the finance company has insufficent cash to pay out due to the massive maturities vs non-matured car/property develoment loans.
The government is making so
The government is making so many promises to voters at the moment it is a joke. The property market being artificially held up. At the end of the day someone has to pay.
Will that now be in two years time? Maybe the 12 October 2010?