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90 seconds at 9 am: Apple up after beating Samsung in patent case and applying to ban S series phones; Spain braces for 21% GST rate; China eyes export rescue

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Here's my summary of the key news overnight in 90 seconds at 9 am, including news markets remain subdued ahead of this Friday night's speech by US Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke at a central bankers symposium at Jackson Hole in Wyoming.

Some economists warn the markets' expectations of strong signs of more money printing may be dashed. Stocks have risen 10% since June on talk both America and Europe would print more money to buy government bonds and reduce longer term interest rates. See more here at Bloomberg.

Meanwhile, Apple shares rose 2% to near record highs overnight after it was awarded US$1 billion in damages from Samsung in a patent infringement case in America. Apple has now applied to ban Samsung's S series phones from sale in America. See more here at Bloomberg.

The S&P 500 closed flat, but the Dow was down 0.3%. The New Zealand dollar was marginally lower at 80.8 USc.

Elsewhere, German Business confidence fell in August for the fourth straight month as the Euro-zone debt crisis continues to drag on activity. See more here at Bloomberg

In Spain, consumers are bracing for an increase in its GST rate to 21% from 18% on Saturday as news emerged of a 25% slump in spending on pharmaceuticals after the withdrawal of a state subsidy. See more here at Bloomberg.

In China, Premier Wen Jiaobao urged fresh measures to support exports to help meet economic targets as China heads for a hard economic landing. See more here at Bloomberg.

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Bernard, you missed the local

Bernard, you missed the local news,
 And he's worth every bloody penny
>>>>>>
 
Paul Reynolds appears to have been paid about $13 million in cash and shares during his final year with Telecom.
 
Almost $11m of cash payments included his final year's salary of $1.9m, two years' worth of short-term incentives totalling $4.8m, a $1.75m termination payment, a $2.1m long-term incentive payment that was paid out early, and $331,000 in special payments.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7558407/13m-makes-Reynolds-ye...

Price increase for

Price increase for consumers.
 
Managers responsible of Telecom or other companies who make such, unethical, enormous payments should be sacked and go to jail for a few years – at least.

Nice for Reynolds. Make a

Nice for Reynolds. Make a complete pigs ear of running the company, numerous cock ups and loose 50% of shareholder value then walk off with a substantial fortune. To add insult to injury, and not reported in the link, a meaty tax cut worth an additional 6% of income. The tab to be picked up with a tax rise for our paper boys and girls plus flogging off irreplaceable national assets.
 
I'm fed up with this Government. The dotcom raid, Warners re-writing our labour laws, sleazy back room deals over the TPP, asset sales - it's plain as day where their loyaltys lie,
 
The latest thing is they are looking at re intruducing the resrtictions on parallel importing. The (entirely reasonable) suspicion is that the US multinationals want this as part of the TPP.
 
Why do we even need a Government, I'm sure Sinopec, Warners and McDonalds are quite capable of running the country. Oh wait, they already are!

Unfortunately the Opposition

Unfortunately the Opposition constantly proven themselves to in complete fantasy land in just about every policy.  So much so that one has to wonder if it's a deliberate farce,

I don't care how much the

I don't care how much the TELECOM CUSTOMERS were ripped orf for.
I thankfully am not one who supports an out moded, out dated, monopolistic, over rated dynesty, with a vested interest in the POOR SERVICE...they eschew.
(Except the Poll-lies and the Bwankers and the Beneficiaries, but I digress).
If Telecom had done things right in supplying an excellent service and a fast communications company, I would not have needed to look elswhere, when they tried to rip me orf....AGAIN.
Comparatively speaking, just about any poor overseas provider is a quarter the price and ten times as fast for Gigabytes of data......not a POOR RELATION, holding back this fair nations.....PROGRESS.
That PAUL is over here, over paid..and bailing....................speaks volumes.
Maybe he has had a GIG-A-BITE....offer he cannot refuse.
Probably gonna work on the Wait-angi Tribunal.......Another anachronism.....holding back the floodwaters of progress.....for another big bite......of the Big Cherry.
(Damning up this fair Nation...for short-term benefits...and ever long term blood sucking returns, one sick-teenth...or more).
Jest another short-term incentive.....for the Powers that be....Working at a quarter speed....if at...all.
(The telecom analogy is so APT.....I think I will write an APP...about it)
Mighty River Power.....from a Maori perspective, gives me no reason at all to cough up more money and throw it after the hangers on.....clinging to the old ways of blame and shame......and selling ...out.
DAMN...them all...I say.
A bit like me and TELECOM.......burgher orf......I can do better elsewhere.....
Lean and mean is better....
(I know I am mean.....Leaning on others...long past their used by date...............Better not).
If they want to play monopoly with my money.......like TELECOM....they will get short shrift.....
And I can bail to another Power And Tele-miss-communications system.....not supported by the NATIONAL.......grid-lock.
And that you can COUNT ON ....MR KEY.
And I will be taking my money with me.........bailing out a floundering ship.....is non-sensical......
A bit like this RANT.....over a trivial pursuit....but I have nothing better to do...today.
Thanks to Others...not TELECOM, nor MAORI....
I prefer things that.... WORK.....not those that ...do...not....and never will.
Praise de lawd that if ONE COUNTRY is ever to work, we have to get rid of the OLD HANGERS ON.........and all points in between.
It may pay...in the long run.
Get over it.....ALREADY.
Get rid of the Poll-lies, Bankers and BENEFICIARIES, one and all.
And get back to bleeding WORK....not bleedin the country dry.....or Mighty River Power and all the other assets, will be no assets at all....
For every man and his dog and his PHONE.
Yer cannot get blood......out of a STONE.

I thankfully am not one who

I thankfully am not one who supports an out moded, out dated, monopolistic, over rated dynesty, with a vested interest in the POOR SERVICE...they eschew.
 
Aren't Telecom one if not the main partner of the government funded national fibre optic high speed internet roll out? 

Yep,   Using your

Yep,
 
Using your munny....Then you will pay...twice...for all that luvverly...LARGESSE.

  Here's my summary of the

 
Here's my summary of the key news overnight in 90 seconds at 9 am, including news markets remain subdued ahead of this Friday night's speech by US Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke at a central bankers symposium at Jackson Hole in Wyoming.
Some economists warn the markets' expectations of strong signs of more money printing may be dashed. Stocks have risen 10% since June on talk both America and Europe would print more money to buy government bonds and reduce longer term interest rates
 
Well there's a twist, (no pun Intended, yet)......... are these the same markets and journo's adamant for the last month  that QE was a given , factored in..?
Yourself incuded for some time now Bernard , almost as if it were to be celebrated confirmation of Bernake's shortcomings.....................sigh eh..?
 You know the speculative markets take the hit if the helicopter doesn't fly on a spray it everywhere mission.......
And so they rightly should, as that is the nature of speculation. 

How about we drug test all

How about we drug test all beneficiaries; including all those of the South Canterbury Finance bailouts, all Telecom shareholders and employess who are being bailed out of their lack of re-investment in their business via the govts boadband rollout, the farming community that benefits from a lack of cost recovery of environmental degradation (postponing Carbon tax initiative), Doctors for whom the major player is govt subsidies, drivers who benefit from subsidised roading projects...etc etc. 
The Govt guarantee for the banks etc during the early days of the financial turmoil surely must make banks beneficiaries? Therefore all their employess!
Government has so many dependants these days; the best game in town is to circle the Beehive (lobbyists )and contrive to get favours (legislation) to favour your sector. 
Yes indeed lets line up the beneficiaries in this economy and get some drug testing under way. Your turn Ms Bennet. Midstream please! 

Yes we should drug test all

Yes we should drug test all beneficaries.
Those who are clean can be issued some locally grown (and supervised) MJ, then we have happy non-working people, less drug problems, and the housing issue will go away.  And those who don't want to consume their ration can sell it to a working drone.

offcut -That's a very

offcut -That's a very perceptive comment.

Oops wrong place. I better

Oops wrong place. I better get tested :)

I imagine we'll get to 20%

I imagine we'll get to 20% GST in the next couple of years.
 
At that point, I'll start up a 'farm tour' operation with a coffee shop facility :-).
 
 
 

Problem is GST a regressive

Problem is GST a regressive tax, ie the poor are impacted the worst and they actually have the least (if any) spare money.  So all that really happens is with a higher GST they buy less essentials.....the very things like food that are also getting more expensive.
So while yes I think taxes will increase its going to be focused at the top....like the UK a new higher rate, probably a lot higher 50% maybe 70%.  The thing is, at that end the things like whiteware and TVs are getting cheaper so if you have disposable income your money goes further....let alone the obscene pay they have now and the increases. That cant last IMHO. There will be a voter revolt if only at the ballot box, take Greece extremists get votes becase the main parties are such losers.....I think that will be a trend....Here we are milder, more voted Green....I thought it might be a one off, now Im not so sure.......
regards

The poor spend less, so pay

The poor spend less, so pay less tax.
The wealthy who consume, pay more tax.
Investment and business expenses are not taxed until they become NZ consumption.
The poor are not impacted the worst.  The wealthy just have far more freedom in the first place so when they lose a significant amount it causes less discomfort, despite being impacted much more.  The constant losers are the middle class, who again see a sizeable lose in their buying power, and yet none of the bonuses (like the second class citizen card) that get handed out to the poor.
But if the government really had any clue about the bottom of the heap, bread, power, local produce would be zero rated.  It's easy to do, but it's a numbers game - those are the biggest single classification of GST earners.  Since the Government wants to steal more money for it's foolish spending and doesn't mind stalling the economy to do it with high total taxation, it is not going to ever happen.

Here we go, trot out the

Here we go, trot out the libertarian dogma....
I often think this site should claim religious status and go for a tax free status....most of what's printed here is religiuous mumbo jumbo anyway.
In terms of stalling the economy with higher taxes, there is enough examples and info out there to say that isnt a supportable statement.
regards

...... I often think that too

...... I often think that too , when the " watermelon men " trotsky out their spiel on " peak this " and " armageddon " that ......
 
Maniacal Malthusian Luddite Religious Zealotskies !
 
...... I then I think , " steady on , Gummy , old bean  , we can't all be on the right , some have to balance things out by being on the wrong , and voting Labour-Green " .....
 
Bless 'em , the little pinkies ....
 

Excellent Gummy, dilusioned

Excellent Gummy, dilusioned as always.....hope you get a big discount off prozac.....
regards

Steven those are the numbers,

Steven those are the numbers, that's teh maths.   And every claim I have ever heard of a case of "not stalling the economy with higher taxes" when actually checked, over a modest period 5,10,20 yrs, has proven to be stalled -  with the only possible exception of a couple of scandanavian countries which when talking to locals, and friends of locals who are from nearby countries, is that it's pretty much a form of slavery.  It's like debt slavery, with no chance of ever paying off the debt.   Only those on extremely high salaried positions have any  freedom.  If you think you've got an exception, I'd love to check up on it.   I'm all for the power of collectives, pulling together to achieve more...but every national level (or even company level over 20 employees) it degenerates to haves and have nots.
 
So it's not dogma, unless you mean mathematical dogma - and you were all for that a few weeks ago.
However, there is a term "Projection" which pops up in psychology.  You might want to take a look at the definitions.  Declaring I have dogma, yet your own position is exactly that, and based on faith not figures.

Well lets start by looking at

Well lets start by looking at the opposites, low taxes Bush years, nice low taxes economy went no where, Clinton years high taxes economy did quite well.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/dooh-nibor/
"the Romney people respond with deep voodoo, invoking the supposed fabulous growth effects from his tax cuts. And who could argue? Remember how the economy tanked after Clinton raised taxes? Remember how great things were after Bush cut them? Oh, wait."
Lets see high taxes that work, well Sweden.
In terms of stalling, well cutting taxes should have boosted the Bush years it didnt happen....we are in a second gilded age where the top 1% have taken all of the profit of the last 30 years...if you want to continue in la la land, well fine.
regards
 

Just curious - in NZD terms

Just curious - in NZD terms can you put some numbers around what you consider poor, middle class and wealthy, not in income, but in stored capital, i.e. asset terms? 
 
Since the introduction of PAYE I believe we have made the mistake of thinking about wealth and subsequently taxation, principally in terms of income (and profit), rather than real wealth.  As I see it, real wealth is a 'store' or 'excess' (of money and/or capital/assets) to that required to maintain a healthy, comfortable life for oneself and ones dependents.
 
You see if Paul Reynolds, for example, takes his $10m+ golden handshake just earned and spends it all in Harvey Norman's on the weekend - well I'd have no problem if he paid minimal tax on that income.  But, he likely won't - he'll invest that excess in some capital/asset within a framework of tax minimisation - and that's where wealth redistribution effort needs to be targeted in my opinion - those large (very large) capital stores; whether they be individual or corporately owned stores of wealth.
 
 
 

However if he does invest

However if he does invest that money, that's where all the borrowing comes from to fund everything else.  From houses and renovations, farm expansions and feed, to factories and startups needing capital.  Without a "rich" person with surplus, there can be no reserves for others to call on.  
   What I find repulsive is that he risked nothing to make that size payout, and many others did more, and got less, and/or were charged more than needed to pay that chunk of cost...and/or the company/shareholders could have invested that in something good for the company/country, not just padding his well paid butt.
If he was paid a respectable amount, then investing would have been reasopnable, and others would also invest and receive the benefits.  But with a hog like that, it dwarfs all the smaller investors, diluting their investments - which is bad for them and bad for their retirement prospects.

No. 'everything else' can

No. 'everything else' can happen with either zero-deposit funding, or no funding at all (just goodwill).
 
You have to realise that, overpaid as he might have been, he still actually did something. That beats computer trading on splits, by an infinite percentage.

I thought you were supposed

I thought you were supposed to have a clue about how things worked before you shoot your mouth off PDK.  Do you understand why omputer trading on splits work?   Here's a hint - I and others who speculate on it, didn't create that market, or the opportunity.  We only put liquidity into it.  You understand the nature of liquidity in a trading market???   Do you even have an iota of a clue how that parallels with real world dynamics.  (hah, double pun, I kill me!)   
 
I note you seemed to have forgotten about explaining how opening a "short" position is paralleled in the physics world, too.   Don't comment on things you don't understand, until you can at least handle that basic fundamental.   University professors wouldn't let a fresher overturn the rules of thermodynamics because he thinks it's easier to pump a tank of gas into his car than it is to run the distance the car can go on the gas.  Likewise, you would be better served spending some time to understand the market fundamentals before you spout your mouth [fingers] off.
 
As for goodwill.... Burning Man/Kiwiburn has goodwill to ...excess... but still they charge for the tickets.

Last I heard, you were in

Last I heard, you were in debt.
 
Yet you talk of 'putting liquidity in'.
 
Maybe I'm too used to dealing with the real.

Yes, as I understood it,

Yes, as I understood it, mist, your strategy is to 'diversify' your debt and to deploy it to speculate (gamble) as a means to pay off debt. 
 
Not wanting to degrade or demean the intention of the borrowings - but I watched alot of folks do just that in the 'heady' end of the 80s (the time our dear leader was practicing his trade at Elders) who didn't come out of the exercise at all well.
 
Even more so now - I don't think the little guy has a hope in hell of calculating a calculated risk.  Remember, fairies are in charge.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

There's a bit more to it than

There's a bit more to it than that.
But it's internet, and boring. And already I put too much boring personal stuff out there.
Most of the stuff I'm involved in, is industries I have experience in.  worked in, serviced as computer technician, examined using training in Computer science (which is about finding algorithms/patterns) and finance and engineering.  And I also have/had a few mentors or angels (or at least interested parties) to help reduce the risk.  The core investments are low risk.  The higher risk stuff I'm prepared to liquidate or even lose (and have done with some).
Also my lifestyle requirements are extremely low. I can get by on $40/week if I have to, even less if I can predict it coming.  People with families or consumption debt just can't afford that type or level of austerity towards their investments.  Probably even $20/week, for a month - and that's without prepayment or accurals.
However such arrangements take prior planning and investment (going long on the cheap lifestyle) and time to arrange.

Its pretty obvious to me you

Its pretty obvious to me you see money as an organising tool, a way to have things done. Not everyone sees it this way- that's the conflict here.

Oh, I have no problem with

Oh, I have no problem with people not using money as a system/token of trade ("organising tool") they just have yet failed to find a non-parasitic way to have an alternative.
And why that occurs is what I set out to find 30years ago.
The few who can ignore money fall into two groups:
(1) The higher class.  Who are backed with so much external earnings that moeny is inconsequential to them and thus they don't have a clue about it, and don't care.  These are usually what's know as the First and Second Estates.
(2) The lower class. Who never have any money. Have no idea how to get it and live day to day without any real idea for the future. Entrusting that something will come up, or that someone else will take care of it. Never having had, or understanding access to, money they don't have a clue about it, and don't care.  These are usually the slave/debt slaves of the Third Estate.
 
I am very open and curious about any large scale workable system that excludes tokens of trade.

"they just have yet failed to

"they just have yet failed to find a non-parasitic way to have an alternative."
this is the core battle that goes on here, who and whom are the parasites and what system is best to kill or host the parasite!

Well who is the

Well who is the parasite?
Those who take from others without permission, or without giving equivalent return (ie returns less than symbiotic relationship.  and yes value ad on both sides is very hard under PDK's rules :)   )
But it is the first part that is the important, not the exceptions covered by the second part.
How can you implement trade without a value system, and make the trade system portable without money or currency.  How can wealth be stored without some sort of debt.
 
The second part, "non-parasitic" refers to people like children who are unable to give productivity in early years, and old age people, who are unable to given productivity in late years.  It also covers non-working partners in a relationship, where either from caring or expectation, no return is normally expected.  It also covers things like Burning Man/Kiwiburn (or similar isolated specific events) where excess surplus is deliberately generated outside the event, for the purpose of free giving within the event - ie direct trading is not required but would be impossible without a larger than normal surplus being generated prior to the event for the purpose of giving away (ie the event is parasitic on surplus from trading conditions, and impossible to exist without such surplus... it is the flower child of the commercial age, and utterly dependant on it's parent).
  All such "parasitic" systems require some form of trading system to develop the surplus they need to survive. without the surplus created by trade (higher energy density, through work) they would quickly become extinct.
 
Thus the trading system, to convert natural resources (eg free energy) into human usable form requires trade.  To get things into a human preferred and convenient form, requires a large skillset and collecting of a large variety of resources and considerable effort.  Undertaking such "organisation" requires an ability to trade.  People are traders.  Thus people require items of value, which means (a) contract/protocol and (b) money (ie valuation systems)

The best way to kill it, is to destroy its value.  This is most successfully done by (a) having a coinage and debasing it to nothing, or (b) load up transaction costs which reduce the value to both parties (which marginalises the value to one or both parties until the trade is worth nothing, or worse, a cost to trade.)

Yes. on all three

Yes. on all three counts.
I'm not trying to be ad homein about the "get to know how the market works" comments, you are too used to dealing in the real, and you're focusing only on part of the system.

I have debt, because it's bloody tough making a company work with $5 a week surplus funding above rent/food/fuel.
But what do I do with that debt. It's invested (spent, long) into other real things.  Thus those things must return, over time (!!), at least equitable value.  One of those values must be currency to service the debt in its entirity.
In an ideal world without debt, the price of the farm (to pick one business area), would reflect the available purchasing power of the individual person or company.  However that would mean the purchaser would not be able to "save" or "invest" their purchasing power anywhere else while they accumulated it.  No bank accounts, no debt instruments to other business awaiting repayment.  They would have to have stashed it under a mattress/buried it in the backyeard, or have a previous asset awaiting sale to a third party before releasing the funds.   That would considerably reduce the price they would be able to pay.   However, if they have a relatively liquid asset they're selling that would give significant advantage in what they can bid.   Also if they have multiple equity partners, they could bid more.... but if all those equity partners are not communally working the business we have a capital (debt) investment system.  That is to say they expect a return (or recognition) of their contribution, which is to say it's a debt position over time (long - they paid in and expect things to improve over time so they can get future benefits).
  That's for a simple operation with few specialisations, a farm.  For an engineering shop, or factory, it becomes complex.  Someone has to create demand, design, build, develop, produce equipment that their collective does not use. In the speculative hope of positive return, that a buyer will want the order.  The buyer somehow has to find a way to produce those funds, in advance, without benefits of plant.  If not, a debt situation occurs.
 
The easiest way to deal with debt situations, is to find someone who has surplus from elsewhere, and their exists a market-maker that has created a system of transferring the surplus, to where the demand is.  Maxwell's demon in it's current state insists that this arrangement will incur overhead, and make the process less than perfect efficiency.  However without any form of transmission medium, the surplus and demand are isolated, and the demand (potential) has no free energy in which to act, with the exception of the free energy leaking through with time and imperfect isolation.
  
So I receive in advance (my short, receive on account) surplus funds.  I am thus able to purchase equipment (cows) and start production.  The service cost for my purchase, is around 1,500$ a month.  100 cows at this point in time produce 1.5 kgMS, which I have a tradeable consumer with currency, who is blackboxed to the rest of the market (ie I don't have to work about anything past trading with PhonTerror).  They pay 3.85 per kg, this month (with a variable remainder on 'tic' owing to me, until they receive their final contract payment).   So, 100x1.5x30 x 3.85 = 17,325 +gst.  Which is my income for that month. I deduct interest of 1500,  rent of 7333+gst. wages 2,000. GST from prev 2 months, 9500. PKE and transport for winter feed, 4500.  Fuel, power 3,000. and so on.   Of which I'll skim 2%-ish off the side [gross].  17,325 *0.02 = 350.  That 350, I put somewhere else.  In this case I'm putting it on the forex market.  I have previously had smaller income, so that got put in house investments (eg paying more to get the mortgage "Sorted")
  After 6 months, that 350 is a little over 2k, which can swing a few good positions in forex, and turnover quickly. and the profits of the profits, used to offset the interest costs, leaving more funds for the business operation.
  However - Fonterror, it turns out don't actually drink all my milk themselves.  They turn it into an ever increasing range of ...stuff.  And sell it.  To foreigners.   But foreigners don't have any NZD.  Not much call for it in foreign places, mostly NZD is used in local shops...for local people. (honk, if you know the quote ;)  )
  So where do the foreigners get NZD?   they can borrow it (debt again) and they have to borrow it from someone who has NZD.  If no-one had NZD to lend them, they would be stuck in the same place as the farmer/farm purchasers - all that demand and no currency!  The obvious place for them to get NZD is for the NZ government to give it to them (print some just for them).  But there's not really much point in that (although it means foreigners would buy a lot more of Fonterrier's stuff).  After all people in NZ demand fancy stuff from foreign places. (apparantly they don't make nice shoes in NZ ;) ). So NZ has to come up with a way for foreign demand to be able to purchase NZ surplus.  We could all hold hands, get a single currency, sing kumbaya, and wait for the group with the biggest surplus and sneakiest bankers to led us all to prosperity.  Or those with surplus NZD could lend it to the foreigners.  Still doesn't stop the government getting a bunch of NZD and promising it the foreigners really relly cheap, but at least it gives them something to trade with.  And we borrow their surplus currency, to do the same.   To keep it kind of fair, there would have to be a flexible scaling system, otherwise those with massive surpluses (of worthless paper, printed just for that purpose) would be able to purchase the other peoples' hard work for next to nothing.
 But someone has to front with the 350NZ to allow trading.
 
Others have a bit more than 350NZ.  say like 19M.  Well they allow a lot more trading, which is probably good, because I don't think NZ will get very far on $350 a month of exports.  Also the guy with 19M, probably not to sure what he wants to buy Right Now, so he'll probably lend out some of the surplus - or more likely enter into an agreement for someone else to lend it out, and give him a cut.  Which will give me the money to buy 100 cows (without me having to create a CFD [futures] arrangement with him personally for the cow funding).
 
My concern is not with Reynolds receiveing a "thanks for not wrecking our company" payout, merely the size of when compared to the wages of the workers who actually put their time, focus and training into the company.   19M allows Mr Reynolds to get a LOT of future returns.  Whereas those workers whose efforts are more vital, and just as time consuming, and as much personal risk, after living costs are removed, have much less opportunity for future returns of their wages (having much smaller surplus).  [personally I think workers should receive a _small_ portion of shares with paypackets, we have the technology to handle it (microlots) these days.  And with a surrender option at termination. ]  Because Mr Reynolds received a sizeable paycheck during his period of service, and thus has much opportunity to invest and enjoy the surplus.  Yet the workers who get almost no bonus, have little worth during their service period that they can invest. (reminded of the first $1000 I put on term dep.  9 months it took to save, scrimping and saving.  90days down, and it was hell not to touch it.  for ... $6.    six lousy bucks (5litres of gas or 2 cups of coffee at the time) to show for 12months hardship. lols.

But long to short.
I have debt, leveraged.  To create a minor surplus and modest risk.
I get a small return (most surplus, services and deleverages the debt).
The return I invest elsewhere, more liquid and diversified from the main operation.
The farm, gross revenue, would pay off any one of the outstanding mortgages in 3 months (give or take, depending on month).  Or a good portion of the debt elsewhere.

The forex equity, would cover the farms debt servicing for 3-6 months if needed, and the government don't funk it up totally.
See it's not just a system, but a complex machine, each eco-system connecting into the other.   It was quite fragile in the beginning, especially when the professionals (accountant especially) screwed up and left me hanging.  But I'm applying austerity (prudence) so that each of the parts is more robust.   And when a greater fool comes along (which is common but not required) as they did with my second house, it cashes out all the current holdings and lets me reconfigure a more evolved pattern.  But that requires me to have access to funds, and to provide the surplus to others in order for them to build their own organism.
  

Did the chicken or the egg

Did the chicken or the egg come come first?
All PDK and you are doing is arguing about is which came first, energy/money, and which is more important. They are both connected!

Eggs.  From lizards. and

Eggs.  From lizards. and spores before that. RNA and protein segments before that.
Which is kinda obvious if you actually take time to examine the system.
You want energy?
It's pouring down on that field right outside my cave.  oodles of it, every day.
Some clever chap should whip out and store some of it.
Lets call that chap Mr Chlorophyll.
 
Now we need a way to harvest Mr Cholophyll's energy stores.
We can cut it and consume it direct.... but's most of it is not palatable.
So we can wait until it becomes palatable, (grains and fruits), or select what is palatable (vegetables and herbs). Or find a system of processing: other animals which can eat the human non-palatables, and which are themselves somehow palatable (although when UG tried to consume the passing next passing Mastadon with his bare teeth the project suffered some setbacks.)
Similar systems exist for the conversion of passing energy into sugars for stored energy, and how that energy is futher concentrated.  Which makes it used for heating and transport.
Which is all mildly interesting should one decide to pursue the element of fire in neo-pagan/magickal philosophies. 
 
Money is a completely different association.  For which there needs to be value for trade. If there is no trade, then money of any form is worthless.  No matter how much gold you have, at the moment it is worthless to trade with the Hyper-intelligent shades of blue inhabiting low orbit of Alpha Centauri.  Supply and Demand are what creates and defines money. portable money can be used for currency.
 
However in our own world at the current time, not many situations exist where someone is just going to give you money for nothing. Unless you married them or got birthed by them.  So all the energy in the world isn't going to do you any good, without the ability to convert it - and that is via trade, and that means money. And chances are you're going to want something more complex than a cave, fruits and grains, and a space downwind to bury your Mastadon hunters.

 that's where all the

 that's where all the borrowing comes from to fund everything else
 
Oh pleeeeease, mist ... tell me you are not suggesting you "believe" in some kind of robust, functioning, transparent and well regulated system of fractional reserve banking?
 
 
 

I believe it a lot more than

I believe it a lot more than a "functional system" where well wishing bank fairies invent limitless amounts of free money for the government angels, and can do indefinitely for everyones' benefit with out danger of inflating away the worth of work.
   If that were possible, there would no need to have taxes, or interest, or work.  The bank fairies could just give everyone infinite credit, and the government could borrow from the bank fairies just to look after everyone and they'd never have to worry about any reciprocating transaction.
 
But unfortunately that is what most people think the system is.

Except those who are fronting the cash for the banks and governments.....(ie those paying the long cost)

But unfortunately that is

But unfortunately that is what most people think the system is.
 
I'd have said unfortunately that is what most people don't realise the system is.  The fairies  gave everyone infinite credit and didn't worry about reciprocating transactions which saw the other fairies step in to give their fellow fairies the other end of the transaction from some mythical future place.
 
Which is why the 'fairy keepers' have conjured up the new 'magic potion' of an OBR here in NZ.
 
So, in conclusion - no, Mr Reynolds' bonus won't have one iota to do with 'funding everything else'.  It serves one and one only person in the real world - him.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_fractional_reserve_banking
 
 

"'I'd have said unfortunately

"'I'd have said unfortunately that is what most people don't realise the system is."
That's just a junk argument. Do you know that reynolds number lift coefficient to fly on an aeroplane. most likely not and it doesn't matter.

According to page 13-7 of

According to page 13-7 of Aircraft Technical Knowledge, chapter Basic Aerodynamic Theory (eleventh Edition 2006).  Book #1 of The Private Pilot Series.  
[quoting with fair use, and no permission, a small portion of the text]
"Variation of Lift Angle of Attack
The combined effect of the shape of the aerofoil and its angle of attack is represented by a value called the coefficient of lift (CL). The higher the value of CL, the greater the lifting capacity of the aerofoil.
A coefficient of lift curve is produced by plotting CL against angle of attack....[etc]"
Now one can consider that data, with data on air density and humidity etc and no you don't need it to be a passenger on an aeroplane. But you should learn it to be the pilot (or discuss flight conditions or performance characteristics of the system) and if you're designing yourself an aircraft I think that if you don't know it, you'll need something that serves similar purpose.
 
So compare that to finance and market conditions.
Who are you paying to design, build, fuel and fuel your aircraft?  Are you taking photos out the window of a C152 or microlight, or do you think you're sitting in premier class in the latest Boeing aerospace building with wings (I'm sure they figure with enough thrust they'll build a space station on the ground and if they chuck it hard enough if the air it won't come down again).  Either way how much are you paying for the service?

 But I digress.  With finances, your finances who is flying?  Who is designing the system you are hinging all your lifes efforts and savings on, and the future of your descendents?
Are they familiar enough with the system?  How much fakery should you accept before handing over control?  How much responsibility do you demand of others in the system.
 
And btw, my flight instructor was killed in an aerial collision a few years back, when another pilot failed to follow proper protocols and cut some corners on finals.......
so how important is it to properly know your system?

sure - but most people are

sure - but most people are passangers - salary earners - not the captain or plane builder.
 'No one' would fly if you needed a pilots license to use a commercial airliner. You could argue that if everyone knew how to fly then flying would arguable more safe but it aint going to happen!

Most people -think- they are

Most people -think- they are passengers, but who are they paying to fly the plane, and what cautions have they taken to the safety records of the airline.
At the end of the day your safety as a passenger is your duty.  It's your butt. you pick which carrier, and if you just go for whatever and don;t take diligence, then you will be taken for a ride. or die.
And that's what's going to be happening in financial circles.  Gone are the days of the prudent leaders, and godfearing (crazy but kinda reliable) authorities keen to keep everything  tip top.  It's peoples own responsibility to see that things are managed correctly (else you get PIIGS and the NZ financial company debacle).  In order for pople to have freewill and power over their choices, they will face greater responsibilities for their choices collectively.
And PDK is right on one count, the higher the population, the more scarce the resources. Collectively we have more money and bigger toys in play.  But because of that we have a bigger footprint and more responsibility.  No longer can people just assume they're passengers, and the longer the government or social wellwishers try to keep them in bubblewrap, the more it will cost, the more damage they will do, until the system rebalances itself.   And if they don't ... well how healthy is AirNZ at the moment......

well how healthy is AirNZ at

well how healthy is AirNZ at the moment......
 
Depends on the cycle and cost of it's aircraft leases in relation to the ability to sustain profitable fares when an indifferent (oil financed) new low cost lease competitor tries to undercut it. Falling interest rate environments are always dangerous for this type of company.
 
I guess that is why it costs $900 to fly Wellington to Taupo but only $50 to Auckland. Farming communities have to subsidise city types - all for the greater good I suppose- not that I fly at all anymore. 

I thought you might say that,

I thought you might say that, which is why I choose the two terms with care.  As someone familiar with both Fae Lore and Enochian it seemed like the perfect fit.
And there's an old Enochian story about how the Angels when called on release more "magic" into the world, which makes it more unstable.  Until eventually the caller destroys themselves, and this is fabled to be what destroyed Sodom and Gomorra - that such license was taken, so much "magic" released until they were destroyed from within.
  The amusing thing about Angels, is they really don't give a rats pahtulli about other beings.  They're carrying out Gods' rules, The holy edict from on high, and that makes everything they do righteous and just.  And if every looks like chaos, not important because they were following their mandate and done their job to obey the holy writ.  (personally I trust the Fae more, and I wouldn't shake hands with one without checking afterwards to make sure they were my original fingers....)

Yes, mist, it was a

Yes, mist, it was a delightful analogy - and very appropriate given the additional comment on their historical nature!  :-) :-)
 
 
 

Well you're only stating the

Well you're only stating the obvious - but if I look at the various "austerity" measures being discussed the world over - they consist mainly of:
 
- higher consumption taxes
- state asset sales of natural monopolies
- increased withdrawl of the state from social service provision
- increases in co-pay for socialised medicine, housing, education etc
- trend toward PPP and contracting out by governments
- increased subsidies for inept lending practices
- increased bonuses and remuneration for private and public sector CEOs - loss making and incompetent ones included.
 
And mounting excuses (or simply off the agenda) comprehensive capital tax, financial transaction tax, increased income tax at the very high end, high end salary caps, regulation of senior executive bonuses, higher minimum wages, quango axing, means tested super, public money, strengthening criminal prosecution and cost+ reparations for proceeds of blue collar crime (including inept lending practices), unwinding of trust provisions etc etc.
 
For example, on state asset sales - I constantly ask myself - why are we selling the assets of our electricity companies instead of say, Landcorp?  Every NZer does not directly use the goods/services produced by Landcorp - is is not a natural monopoly (quite the opposite, it competes with private landholders in our largest export sector) - it serves no purpose other than keeping the price of agricultural land high.  It is, in my opinion, an indirect subsidy to the inept lenders - who in the main, take their ever rising profits offshore.

Hi, "mainly" yes well thats

Hi,
"mainly" yes well thats because of the right wing political dogma that seems to dominate western politics though,
The UK I think introduced a higher tax bracket....
Interesting that we are seeing PPPs raise their ugly heads here, yet these are a disaster anywhere you look...really its stealth tax by the back door. We will pay more just there are private ticket clippers jumping in....all in the name of efficiency, sadly it seems the voter falls for it.....amazing how shallow it is.
regards
 
 

The UK I think introduced a

The UK I think introduced a higher tax bracket...
 
On income - wrong target IMO.
 
 
 
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why wrong target? I dont

why wrong target? I dont follow you....
regards

Target redistribution efforts

Target redistribution efforts at redistribution/redeployment of capital stores.

Otherwise knows as "we'll all

Otherwise knows as "we'll all be rich if everyone is poor".
Kind of thinking that happens when too many mushroom circles are smoked.

Landcorp, Air NZ etc,

Landcorp, Air NZ etc, certianly Air NZ is losing money or will do, I really dont see why its not sold becau eits a loss to private enterprise who should then make it efficient...
Like I said dogma.
more fool us.
regards

I don't think it's making a

I don't think it's making a loss because of dreadful practices (apart from the need to service some snall areas).

It's more to do with huge rises in costs, airport fees, aviation requirements for safety checks & repairs, fuel, staff,  cost of fleet replacements amortised into futures with slim margins, price wars on premium flights.
 
But it does keep other carriers honest.

  http://www.theburningplatfo

 
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THE CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES OF ILLUSION
http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=39601

Very interesting.  Worth the

Very interesting.  Worth the time.

yes, great piece, I dont know

yes, great piece, I dont know whether to say its obvious or insightful.....
regards

Maybe near the end for

Maybe near the end for Apple?  Protecting joke patents in the US is big business for big business, but may mean little in growth markets maybe. Rounded edges and glass to edge of screen? wow. Icons- wow Is that all? Will anywhere else in the world back them up on this- not likely. Probably could only get a win like this in the US. Maybe Samsung will stop supplying Apple- now that would be interesting.

Apple may have scored an own

Apple may have scored an own goal. The case has shown the Apple fanboys that they can get an 'Apple' phone at half the price! The case involved the older products, it doesn't include the Galaxy S3.

Apple shareholders indicated

Apple shareholders indicated the end is nigh when they opted to pay themselves dividends for the first time earlier this year. This round of shenanigans is a feeble/failed  attempt to extend the payment stream as long as possible.
 
Samsung won hands down - As some one else pointed out they are now the recognised premiere Apple competitor. The $1 billion was cheap for such an unequivocal declaration.

Wilbur Wright stopped

Wilbur Wright stopped developing his aircraft, and turned to defending his original in court.
 
Didn't work. You need to stay in front.

It might seem like a joke,

It might seem like a joke, but it's anything but.  Remember huge chunks of the revenue for those products could be fined off them and given to an unscrupulous competitor should a competitor find an angle to push in court.
  The US has first to discover, not first to file, rulings.  So any existing patent property can be overturned should a competitor give enough lawyers to prove they had a qualifying previous invention - and remember that includes buying experimental prototypes and rights off inventors for stuff never filed or commercialised.
 AND if they don't defend their patent property tights with diligence, they are considered to be inconsquental and allowed continued use of them (to stop companies waiting for a competitor to get enough sales to be worth suing for)