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NZ banks now have $20b of assets, including 143,627 home loans, guaranteeing covered bonds

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NZ banks now have $20b of assets, including 143,627 home loans, guaranteeing covered bonds

By Gareth Vaughan

A new report from credit rating agency Fitch puts the spotlight on the NZ$13.234 billion worth of covered bonds New Zealand banks have issued.

The report shows the five banks that have issued covered bonds now have a total of $20.459 billion worth of assets in cover pools guaranteeing them. This includes 143,627 home loans.

Fitch also confirms the euro as the dominant currency the bonds have been issued in since BNZ became the first New Zealand bank to issue covered bonds in 2010. Kiwibank has the highest weighted average loan-to-value ratio on the mortgages used in cover pools, with New Zealand banks' covered bonds to start maturing from next year.

Covered bonds are dual-recourse securities, issued for terms of several years, through which bondholders have both an unsecured claim on the issuing bank (should it default on the bonds), plus a secured interest over a specific pool of ring fenced assets called the cover pool.

Due to their dual recourse security, covered bonds generally attract the highest possible AAA credit rating (often higher than the bank issuer's own rating), and are therefore a cheaper form of funding for banks than standard bank bonds.

A bank can use up to 10% of its total assets as security for covered bonds, the Reserve Bank says.

As of Dec. 31, 2013 Total outstanding covered
bonds volume
Total cover
pool volume
Number of
residential loans
ANZ $3.912b $6.144b 42,178
ASB $2.366b $4.032b 27,393
BNZ $4.556b $5.467b 39,309
Kiwibank $191m $316m 2,364
Westpac $2.209b $4.5b 32,383

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24 Comments

Why has no NZ journalist exposed this for the rort that it is? The net effect is that all depositors are placed at greater risk. Traditionally if a bank ran into trouble the shareholders lost money, followed by the bond holders and only then did the deposit holders ie us, lose money. Now the derivative holders are safest, followed by the secured bond holders and the depositors get the scraps if there are any left. All this is happily ignored because the bank captured commentariat just repeat what the banks tell them.

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Its been well documented so simple move your money elsewhere.  On top of that a depositors money always was at risk, but now its been highlighted so you are aware of it.

Traditionally  the Govn has had to step in to stop bank runs, aka Ireland.  

Depositors have a big advantage they can still with draw their money at short notice, I suggest you buy a decent fireproof safe. 

regards

 

 

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what are you saying ZZ, we should ignore deposit to loan ratios?

 Our banks are dependent on alot of short term borrowing, if the currency dives then its going to get expensive to borrow in NZ.  Whats your exit stategy? Im working on mine.

 

 

Australia's ratio is 135 per cent, second after the United Kingdom and just ahead of Sweden.

This means that our banks have lent $135 for every $100 they have in deposits, so they are lending more than they hold in deposits.

Is this a problem?

 

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-20/schulte-house-bubble/4969228   commenter Two major facts not taken into account - the big four Australian banks are the largest holder of New Zealand mortgages. The NZ RBA has recently macro prudential policies and increased it LVR ratio to 20% to slow down the NZ property bubble. Our banks own the majority of NZ mortgage debt, and if there is a bubble and a property collapse then the banks own the debt. In a serious case this will flow through to the Aussie tax payer. 



- Asian debt. Similar to the NZ issue. The big four have been making major pushes into Asia especially Indonesia. Once again, if it goes pear shaped, the Aussie tax payer will be expected to pick up the difference. 



It is beyond the scope of an under funded organisation like the ABC (and I'm all for the ABC getting more money) to state the financial situation of the big 4 banking behemoths. The lack of transparency makes it difficult for even APRA to know what is really happening

 

 

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But if I remove my deposits ZZ then the bank needs to find someone to replace them.  In a debt based fiat money system loans come before deposits.

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Trouble with that view is that  when me and AJ are running to withdraw our money it will probably be because the "shit has hit the fan".

Chances are that Nobody will want to lend to our banks...  ( Back in 2008 Global liquidity really did freeze)

You'd be amazed at how quickly Banks stop lending to each other when they get scared..

Had a friend whos Fathers mortgages were called in ...back in 1989...    He was servicing his mortgages ok... and his commercial properties were tenanted, with good leases.  The Bank was in the shit with Liquidity issues, and ruthlessly demanded that he repay...   ( he was unable to refinance ....  )

So ...it is not just deposit holders that might be squeezed....  You might find, as a borrower, that the Bank is no longer your best friend...

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They will lend at a price.

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Bank runs in Thailand anyone? Asian crisis 2.0? Or just alarmist nonsense?

clients withdrew 30bn Baht (around $1bn) in a single-day last week

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-18/bank-runs-spread-thailand

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yes... very good advice...  

I think bankers panicked in the late 1980s'

My friends Father lost all of his portfolio.... and never recovered.

I think the umbrella metaphor about Bankers is a truism....  

Very risk adverse and no balls...so they behave like sheep...   All stick their heads up at the same time and duck for cover at the same time...   :)

Am I being too harsh..??

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Depositors can withdraw their money at short notice...

'Apolgies our internet banking is currently unavailable due to maintenance'

'This ATM is currently not in service'

'We don't have that much cash on hand, but we can organise a bank cheque for you....'

 

A safer bet would be that those in the know would have swooped for their funds well before the general populace had any idea what was going on.

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Hi Roger. We have written regularly about covered bonds in detail over the past few years including this article; 'What anyone with a home loan and/or bank deposit needs to know about the bank bonds compared with drugs and prostitution' http://www.interest.co.nz/bonds/59429/what-anyone-home-loan-andor-bank-deposit-needs-know-about-bank-bonds-compared-drugs-and-

And here's all our other articles on covered bonds - http://www.interest.co.nz/category/tag/covered-bonds

Cheers.

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Thanks for the good work on covered bonds Gareth.

Im going to have to take some affirmative action to protect my deposits. I always thought that Parliment would protect depositors now thats no longer so, its opening a can of worms.

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more like 17 billion of deposits.  Total debt including foreign over 370 billion isn't it?

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we've been here before and from what I can remember its more complicated than it looks.

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whats that come to per head? 30k per head in deposits.

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Maintaining the confidence of depositors is the paramount priority in bank rescues. Governments can easily stump up new bank capital. But if people won't lend their money to the banks then the financial system and economy collapse.

Yet uniquely in the world, our Reserve Bank has devised a rescue system that encourages depositors will flee their banks and try to head for the one it and the Government have saved.

This will happen for three obvious reasons under the Open Bank Resolution process due to take effect in June:

Depositors will be frightened by the Reserve Bank taking a proportion of a failed bank's deposits to recapitalise the institution. Failure is likely to be systemic and contagious in the event of, say, a collapse in the housing market or a drying up of international credit.

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/8490711/Oram-Reserve-B…

 

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Of course, the government could just buy the bad debts off the banks and perform QE over time until it is all written off (ie create sufficient new money to fill up the hole left by the debt that cannot be repaid). This seems perfectly respectable these days, so who knows, they might get away with it.

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Or we could just run a current account surplus.  Hahahahahahahahahahah

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Of course, why didn't I think of that?

 

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Thats ok, its been along time.

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If you look on the RBNZ site for the E3 series, total overseas debt, you will find it was discontinued in June last year. I wonder why? But when I first looked at E3 vs M3 a couple of years ago E3 was greater by about a $Billion.

 

There is also the C series, which gives private sector credit at $350 Billion. http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/tables/c3/ 

 

My guess is Andrew, that the deposits are not really an asset as they appear elsewhere in the system as a debt.

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Yes, well done you. (The first link not work by the way).

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It should be working now.

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All those deposits are someone elses promise to pay. Its all debt.

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