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ANZ National sees GDP contracting 3%, unemployment at 8% in 2009
ANZ National downgraded its forecasts for growth and unemployment on Monday, saying New Zealand's GDP would contract by close to 3% in calender 2009 and unemployment would rise to near 8%. It had previously forecast a 2% contraction in GDP. "No one likes to envisage these sorts of adjustments and outcomes," ANZ-National economists said. "But we can't go past the 500 pound gorilla sitting on our shoulder: it's called a current account deficit, and it needs to come down, in an environment where the earnings sector is constrained by the global environment." ANZ-National is forecasting an 8.9% current account deficit in the year to March 2009. "Our revised growth forecast is obviously "out-there" in so far as the mainstream is concerned. But we cannot go past the brutal economic reality that is unfolding," they said. "It is not just the economic data, which just like consensus forecasts, comes with a notorious lag. Instead, it is the growing innuendo and anecdotes behind the scenes as the process of global de- leveraging intensifies, with the resulting spillover into spending, profits (losses), jobs and asset prices," they said.
"(I)n so far as NZ is concerned, we are on a losing trifecta of a global recession, heavy reliance on offshore capital and the need to de-leverage. We can talk about prospective interest rate cuts, expansionary fiscal policy and a potential influx of returning kiwis all we like. But this is a major global credit event, and NZ needs to get the current account deficit down. The old "rules" no longer apply when you go through a one-in-eighty year credit event. The sacrificial lamb for a deleveraging economy is growth. There is simply no painless way out of it." "(T)he current downturn has now moved beyond firms experiencing lower sales and demand for their goods and services. Businesses have responded by reducing productive capacity. Given the obvious attention being paid to corporate balance sheets (last week's focus on a few corporates did not go unnoticed) businesses are now forced to respond. That means cutting investment and fewer jobs. And remember, this economic cycle is not fundamentally about corporate balance sheets. It is primarily about household de-leveraging, a process that has only just started, which will only accentuate the demand aspect as well." "Lastly, the current situation is not only a reflection of economic dynamics. It is rapidly becoming a symptom of game theory, as behavioural aspects to the economic cycle take over. The most widely referred to example of game theory is the prisoner's dilemma. The best solution is for everyone to hold their breath (co-operate) and ride through the biggest global downturn of our time. In short, don't pull down the shutters for fear of making it worse." "Unfortunately, when you look at the payoff matrix from game theory, the rational choice leads the two players to defect (in an economic sense, "react" to try to gain a strategic advantage) even though they would benefit more if they played co-operatively. And so it extends to the economy."
So are ANZ going to
So are ANZ going to be game keeper, poacher or prisoner?
Given their Govt. Guarantee who will they screw?
Or will they be the rock in the storm because of their guarantee?
Viking ANZ will certainly not
Viking
ANZ will certainly not perform the role of game keeper.
That role historically reserved for the RBNZ has now passed to the people since Drs Bollard and Cullen foolishly relinquished it when they allowed the RB to join the game with forex intervention aspirations.
Conflicts of interest always arise when one is nursing a short NZD/USD ~4.0 billion outright currency position.
The Minister of Finance is equally compromised while he endorses through omission or otherwise the RBNZ's player status.
Admittedly it's not a central
Admittedly it's not a central part of their argument, but I have to challenge the idea that the economy 'needs' to shrink that much in order to correct the current account deficit. Contrary to popular opinion, the biggest source of the deficit has been high interest rates on overseas borrowing, followed by high profits for overseas-owned firms, with the high exchange rate a distant third. The first and third have already been dealt to; the second will be soon enough, but is irrelevant since it's self-fulfilling (i.e. the deficit only exists because firms are making profits). A lot of people are going to be shocked at how quickly the current account deficit shrinks.
Also, I don't get where they're going with their 'prisoners dilemma' analogy. What constitutes cheating in this case? Is laying off staff and cutting back production cheating? Cause that's real sly...
Miguel Your arguments are flawlless
Miguel
Your arguments are flawlless looking forward but neglect the accumulated C/A deficit legacy.
Unfortunately foreign owned net debt is in the order of NZD 166.00 billion.
Servicing remnants of it at some price together with a high chance of continuing trade deficits will continue to place a burden upon those left in work and able to pay. If not that sum will ratchet up. Default at this stage of the game is not a choice.
Agreed Stephen - which is
Agreed Stephen - which is why I struggle to understand how ANZ's forecasts (current account deficit only shrinks to 6-odd % of GDP, implying ever-mounting foreign debt) fit with their idea of a 'necessary' correction. If they think NZ can get through this without any sort of deleveraging, that actually puts them at the wildly optimistic end of the scale.
Can someone please tell me
Can someone please tell me how do we pay off $166 billion dollars of foreign loan without :
1.Devaluation of the NZ$ (sorry guys but you lent me in NZ$ and now it's toast, better luck next time)
2. Spending less of what we make (to pay off our debts with the balance)
3. Borrowing less to import less stuff (heck you can't even pay me what is owed and you want to borrow more ??)
This means to me : Currency devaluation (way more to go)
Lower domestic spending (to pay off our debts)
Lower imports (no more Urodashi/Samurai bonds)
Total : Shrinking economy (aka Recession/ Depression aka BIG Recession)
You've forgotten 4: Run the
You've forgotten 4: Run the printing presses at full bore, and repay foreign lenders with the increasingly worthless New Zealand dollars that they agreed to. It won't affect the exchange rate because every other country will be doing it at the same time.
Sorry Miguel we cannot print
Sorry Miguel we cannot print otherwise we will have to change our country's name to
New Zimbabwee......
Once the world knows that's our path, we are toast...while uncle Sam can do it because he has the big stick to beat everybody with it if they don't agree.
Hilary Clinton just told the Chinese "we are truly going to rise or fall together." " translated means "if we are broke you are toast" The US has become the worlds "to big to fail " country, sorry NZ you are not big enough ! ! !
Wrong - the experience of
Wrong - the experience of Old Zimbabwe shows that if you have your own printing presses you don't have to give a sh*t what the rest of the world thinks of you.