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Lehman bankruptcy likely; chaos feared

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Lehman Bros HQ in Times Square New YorkAmerica's fourth largest investment bank Lehman Brothers is now widely expected to be put into bankruptcy protection within the next day, forcing the liquidation of its assets and raising the prospect of chaos on global financial markets when they open fully later today.

The US Treasury has refused to guarantee a bailout of Lehman Bros and is prepared to let it go to the wall. It instead has tried to cajole other big US and European banks into rescuing or buying Lehman, but so far has had no success after more than two days of round-the-clock emergency meetings in New York. The other US banks are themselves short of capital and don't want to take on the risk of Lehman's toxic mortgage assets. 

British bank Barclays Plc walked away from a potential takeover deal within the last two hours, leaving Lehman without a potential rescuer. Bank of America walked away earlier on Saturday. 

The prospect of bankruptcy forced the International Swaps and Derivatives Association to open an unprecedented Sunday afternoon trading session on Wall St from 2pm to 4pm so counterparties to Lehman Brothers in the Credit Default Swap market could net off against each other to reduce the scale of the chaos when markets open properly on Monday morning.

One fear is that a fire sale of Lehman's mortgage assets could drive prices down for such mortgage debt and create a new low point in the market, which would force other banks to "mark to market" the value of their mortgage books much lower. This would in turn set off another round of capital raisings to increase capital backing ratios. This threatens to trigger a debt death spiral that was warned about two weeks ago by PIMCO, the world's largest bond fund. 

Meanwhile, the Wall St Journal is reporting that Bank of America is in talks to buy Merrill Lynch in the wake of Merill's share price meltdown late last week on what global financial chaos would do to the already weakened investment bank.  This suggests Merill's financial position is also stressed.

What does this mean for us here in New Zealand?

We have NZ$200 billion of foreign debt and at least NZ$60 billion of it rolls over every 90 days. Interest rates on that debt will rise if the chaos continues, as it has already done since the Credit Crunch started in mid 2007.

The fixed mortgage rates charged by our banks are influenced by these international wholesale interest rates and have already risen in the last year because of the credit crunch. Only about half of the Reserve Bank's 50 basis point cut in the Official Cash Rate was passed by our biggest banks last week because of these higher international funding costs.

A worsening of the Credit Crunch could provoke either a reversal of that fall in mortgage rates or prevent further cuts in the OCR being passed on quickly.

The New Zealand dollar dipped almost a cent in early trade on fear that financial chaos would reduce demand for the 'carry trade', a risky play that foreign borrowers make where they borrow cheaply in Europe or Japan and invest in higher interest rate debt in New Zealand or Australia. 'Carry trade' demand often drops during period of financial turmoil.

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so Bernard should we fix

so Bernard should we fix our morgages for 5 years?? is this what you will be doing yourself??

Bernard I think this is

Bernard

I think this is simplistic, World equity is now looking to preserve its value, I think the US Dollar as the 'tallest pygmy' (as Cameron Bagrie described it) might loose that status.

As equity flees from the US meltdown where will it go?

Neven

Banking friend expects US to

Banking friend expects US to close down for fortnight and then when open, expects wall street down 300 $us could be back %50

Joe My view is that

Joe
My view is that interest rates will not fall as far or as fast as many assume because of this international turmoil and the global de-leveraging (withdrawal of new or existing debt) from housing markets. I don't think New Zealand variable mortgage rates will be below 8.5% in a year or even two years, given the Reserve Bank has itself forecast it won't cut the OCR much below 6.5%.
You can get 8.3% from National for 30 months and 8.49% for 2 years from Kiwibank right now. I don't think you'll lose out by fixing for two or three years.
If anything, it's possible two to three year rates could rise over the next 6-12 months if this Credit Crunch gets worse.
cheers
Bernard

Neven Equity fleeing the US

Neven
Equity fleeing the US will go where all cash is going right now: to shore up bank balance sheets, whether it's in Europe or the US. One thing to be sure. It won't be going into the housing market
cheers
Bernard

Odds on for a reintroduction

Odds on for a reintroduction of shorting restrictions before the US markets open on Monday (if indeed they do open).

This from Chris Martenson Quote:

This from Chris Martenson

Quote:
Largest Financial Powers in the City Meet After Day of Hysterical Liquidation Sinking Prices Below Thursday's By Laurence Stern

After the stock market had come crashing down again in a veritable deluge of forced and hysterical liquidation, word sped through the financial district last evening that the largest banks in the city were prepared to exert their organized power this morning to prevent further disaster.

Arrangements described as "fully adequate" were completed at a conference at the offices of J. P. Morgan & Co. at Broad and Wall Streets...

Although no formal statement was issued, it was the consensus of those at the meeting that the worst of the liquidation is over and that a natural demand for investment stocks now available on the bargain counter should go far toward an immediate restoration of trading stability.

-- The World, October 29, 1929

The more things change....the more they stay the same, eh?

Of course, we all remember that believing this particular show of force and official support in October of 1929 was not not the best course of action, right?

Thanks Bernard, good to take

Thanks Bernard,

good to take into account.

I will make for interesting times with what is going on.

And Bank of America looks

And Bank of America looks like its staved off a collapse in Merrill Lynch by buying it:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26708319

They are falling like flies. Washington Mu and AIG are next up on the chopping block.

Also see that Centro failed in its bid to sell over in Aussie.

Bernard My point was that

Bernard

My point was that the money is going to flow to the markets with the best "image" for want of a better term. I think the BoA is buying Merril to make sure its the last man standing, ie they are considered "to big to fail". The Fed baled out Bear Stearns (and Fannie/Freddie) ostensibly setting a benchmark for "you have to be this big before we let you fail", but the rules have now changed. The Lehman failure is a case of we can't bail out everyone, so we'll see what happens if we let number 4 fail.

If you put your money with a bank how does it not end up in the housing market? (or riskier still) as business financing. I certainly wouldn't look favourably at sticking money in the US, and in fact if the Koreans had Lehmans would have been baled out.

In the next 10 days expect further pandemonium in the US as they run out of refined fuel, they were low before Ike and now its starting to bite

Neven

bankruptcy is a fair call

bankruptcy is a fair call here, Bernard.. I hear they have Weil and Gotschal on the formwork.. cute stuff from the ISDA.. did you get any idea of notionals..?

update: notionals look $62Tn.. making

update: notionals look $62Tn.. making chaos a fair term, too

ISDA had it coming to

ISDA had it coming to them - they always struck me as an arrogant bunch, entirely dismissive of any attempt to regulate the OTC derivatives market. In the end that's what might have saved them.

To Dosser: Thank you, additional

To Dosser:

Thank you, additional confirmation is always handy. I used the word 'cute' - twee might have been just as piquish - to effect scorn on their Sunday workout..

To Bernard:

I'm hearing out of India that China cut its interest rate at the weekend for the first time in 6 years.. anything yet.. with likely local impacts.. welcome

Zin China did cut its

Zin
China did cut its rate. Haven't reported yet. Just swamped with Lehman, AIG, MFS, Mascot, St Laurence, Westpac and home loan affordability. Sometimes I wish the news would stop...
cheers
Bernard

don't we all.. tks B

don't we all.. tks B

Bernard, I just don't have

Bernard,

I just don't have time for this search right now, but have you any blog mats on strategic finance which includes from whence the name, when formed, dirs etc Tks.

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