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Friday's Top 10 at 10 with NZ Mint: Gangs and property developers; Chinese money laundered in NZ?; 0 % bonds; Mortgage morality; Dilbert

Friday's Top 10 at 10 with NZ Mint: Gangs and property developers; Chinese money laundered in NZ?; 0 % bonds; Mortgage morality; Dilbert
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Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 past 3 pm, brought to you in association with New Zealand Mint for your afternoon reading pleasure.

I welcome your additions and comments below, or please send suggestions for Monday's Top 10 at 10 via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop any surplus suggestions I get into the comment stream under the Top 10.

1. Just how involved are New Zealand's gangs in property developing? - This story from David Fisher at the NZHerald got me thinking a bit.

I wonder how involved gangs and methamphetamine have become in the New Zealand property market in extorting developers and or tenants.

Any experiences or thoughts?

HT Hugh via email.

Lynne Carter had it all. A $6 million Auckland waterfront mansion, a Ferrari and other luxury cars, her booming property development business and a lovelife that was the talk of the town. Then a week ago, Carter, 45, was arrested and locked up overnight after a bizarre display at Dunedin airport. It led to charges, which, on Friday, were heard in the Auckland District Court.

Carter is accused of methamphetamine possession and fraud. Sitting at the rear of a crowded courtroom, filled with those accused of drink-driving and vandalism, she told the Herald on Sunday she planned to deny the charges. Carter's apparent fall has brought comparisons with the crisis that struck the life of millionaire businessman Mark Lyon. Both were leaders in their fields until the twin shadows of methamphetamine and gangs fell across their lives.  

And this from an unidentified emailer...

Could it be that a piece of the puzzle in the New Zealand property market which is often missed by the above board, legal analysis that people like us do is the pervasive presence of extra legal activity with criminals extracting large rents by extorting money off developers?  

2. An Irish bailout - One of the pieces of background noise on global markets in the last couple of days has been problems in Ireland with huge new bank losses and a blowout in borrowing costs for Ireland's sovereign debt.

People are worried it may default under the weight of all the bank debt taken on by the government. Bloomberg reports the European Central Bank is now buying Irish government bonds.

European central banks bought Irish government bonds today, according to two traders who witnessed the transactions, following a week of speculation about the health of the nation’s banks that sent the securities plunging. The central banks made light purchases of Irish debt with maturities no longer than two years, the people said, under condition of anonymity because their trading is private.

The ECB returned to the market in afternoon European trading to buy more 2012 Irish notes, one person said. Borrowing costs rose at an Irish debt auction today even as central bank Governor Patrick Honohan said the premium investors demand to hold the nation’s bonds instead of German ones is “ridiculous.”

The European Commission this week approved an injection of as much as 24.5 billion euros ($31.5 billion) into Anglo Irish Bank Corp., the lender nationalized in 2009 as the property boom collapsed. That’s more than the 22 billion euros Finance Minister Brian Lenihan had said the bank might need.

“The ECB buying allows the Irish government to take a little longer to get its house in order, or dig its own hole,” said Ciaran O’Hagan, a fixed-income strategist at Societe Generale SA in Paris. “We have yet to see concrete evidence of progress in reining in the budget deficit.”

3. How much is laundered here in NZ property? - Bloomberg reports on a Credit Suisse study on hidden Chinese income and wealth which says there may be US$1.1 trillion squirrelled away in various places. I wonder how much of that ends up invested in New Zealand property. A Remuera real estate agent told me this week that half  of the buyers of the multi-million mansions in Remuera are Chinese.

China’s households hide as much as 9.3 trillion yuan ($1.4 trillion) of income that is not reported in official figures, with 80 percent accrued by the wealthiest people, a study showed. The money, much of it likely “illegal or quasi-illegal,” equates to about 30 percent of China’s gross domestic product, the study, conducted for Credit Suisse AG and published last week by the China Reform Foundation, found.

The average urban disposable household income in China is 32,154 yuan, or 90 percent more than official figures, according to the report. Most of that extra cash is going to the wealthiest families.  

4. Unintended consequences  - Greek teachers are resigning in droves to ensure they get the current pensions before a much tougher regime kicks in, Bloomberg reports.

More than 11,000 Greek state-school teachers have asked to retire before changes are made to the pension system, raising the threat of a shortage of educators for the new school year.

Teachers are opting to leave under present rules before an overhaul of the state pension system kicks in. Prime Minister George Papandreou’s plan, which raises the retirement age and cuts benefits for state workers, is part of conditions attached to 110 billion euros ($142 billion) of loans from the European Union and the International Monetary Fund to help Greece avert a default on its debt.  

5. China's coming property bust - Forbes' Gordon Chang reports from Beijing on why he thinks the property bubble there will burst, despite the optimism of the developers... HT Hugh P via email.

With the economy starting to soften, many in China expect Premier Wen Jiabao to start the money flowing again by relaxing the lending restrictions he put in place in April to cool the property sector. So, despite the enormous overhang of residential units in China, the betting is that construction will pick up soon. Accordingly, the mood in the property sector is maximum bullish, with China property stocks recovering almost all the ground they lost since April. There are, however, three problems with this rally.

First, Premier Wen can reintroduce stimulus spending and still keep his lending curbs in place. To maintain the loan restrictions would be sound policy, and although he has made more than his share of mistakes recently, it’s not wise to bet he will commit another enormous blunder. S

econd, faith that Beijing can prevent a market collapse is misplaced. “The market is bigger than the government,” independent economist Andy Xie writes. Property developers are forgetting that the central government can only delay--not avoid--a final reckoning in the property sector.

Finally, we have to remember our friend, the cab driver in Shenzhen. To make him lose hope in owning his own home is extremely bad politics.

6. Just imagine if there had been no stimulus - The Dallas Fed has written a paper wondering if fiscal stimuli actually work. It accidentally included a chart (right and below) used by the Obama administration in early 2009 which projected unemployment without stimuli.

HT Troy via email.

The projection was actually lower than what has turned out. The projection of unemployment with the stimuli was much lower and so far off the mark as to be laughable. Here's ZeroHedge's take on the stimulus vs no stimulus debate.

All assumptions about "alternate worlds" hypotheses are always flawed, starting at the very top, with the guarantee that the world would have ended if the TBTFs were left to fail.

Newsflash - it wouldn't, and the economic situation would likely have been far better now, had we taken the bitter pill at the proper time two years ago, reset the system, and started afresh.

Instead we are now preparing the latest stimulus which is Obama funding the digging of holes all across the country (soon to be used as a terminal repository for worthless US currency).  

7. Just walk away and don't pay - This New York Times piece on 'strategic defaulters' gives an insight into how American borrowers are thinking right now. Morality is long gone. A sort of tired cynicism has set in.

Fewer than 5 percent of these clients said they would continue paying their home equity loan no matter what. Ten percent intend to negotiate a short sale on their house, where the holders of the primary mortgage and the home equity loan agree to accept less than what they are owed. In such deals primary mortgage holders get paid first.

The other 85 percent said they would default and worry about the debt only if and when they were forced to, Mr. McCain said.

“People want to have some green pastures in front of them,” said Mr. McCain, who recently negotiated a couple’s $75,000 home equity debt into a $3,500 settlement. “It’s come to the point where morality is no longer an issue.”

Darin Bolton, a software engineer, defaulted on the loans for his house in a Chicago suburb last year because “we felt we were just tossing our money into a hole.” This spring, he moved into a rental a few blocks away.

I’m kind of banking on there being too many of us for the lenders to pursue,” he said. “There is strength in numbers.”

8. Pricing in a dead economy - How do you know when investors have given up uttlerly on the prospect of any sort of economic growth in the United States?

One way is to look at what inflation adjusted Treasury bonds are trading at. Right now US 5 year TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities) are trading at almost zero %. The 10 year TIPS are at 1%. HT Felix Salmon at Reuters who cites Scott Grannis here.

Cheerfully buying 5-yr TIPS with a guaranteed real yield of zero only makes sense if one has very grave doubts about whether the economy can generate any real growth at all in the coming years.

Felix makes the following conclusion.

I don’t think that the TIPS market is pricing in zero real GDP growth over the next 5 years. But I do think it reflects worries over stock-market valuations. A stock-market investor only gets exposure to the economy’s performance via investing in equities if p/e ratios don’t fall, after all, and I can easily imagine a scenario where the economy grows modestly, or enters a shallow recession, while stocks fall significantly.

So my feeling is that this is the “there’s nothing else to buy” trade: a desperate lunge for safety in a world where everything else — including stocks and property — looks decidedly risky.

9. The political stability of Europe - Michael Moran has a good look around Europe's political system in this piece in the Global Post. He makes an interesting point about the turbulence ahead. We all are watching the November elections in America, but what about Europe? He looks in depth at the big 5.

Something other than leaves will fall in Europe this autumn. American attention, no doubt, will focus on Barack Obama’s date with an angry electorate this November. Yet across the pond, governments of the right, left and center in Europe appear ready to crumble, their positions eroded by a wave of austerity, high unemployment and government debt, plus a smattering of nasty corruption scandals.

Consider the situation in Europe’s five most important countries. These five economies represent nearly three-fourths of the GDP of the European Union. Put another way, combined they produce as much economic activity every year as the United States did in 2004.

Their crushing national debts aside, having this degree of political instability in an economic pillar that large has to make you wonder about the future of “The West.”  

10. Totally relevant video - This video from a helicopter of a mob in Atlanta, Georgia scrambling for application forms for public housing is startling. People are now talking about a depression in America. With scenes like this it's not too hard to make the jump. HT Blair Rogers via twitter @bmr789

 

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Thanks Wolly (?!). This piece from John Williams is disturbing, if only because he is a hard data guy who has been watching the US economy for decades.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21676.html

cheers

Bernard

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Glad I sold me pna shares before I got to read it. I am however puzzled over his comments re the aussie dollar.

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Wolly, what comments about the Aussie dollar do you mean ?

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I do not see the Aussie or the Canadian dollar becoming reserve currency, they are small economies based in the commodity trade. That trade finds support in the notion that China and India are exporters  and  the USA is the demand side of the trade. With the USA out of the picture  the whole equation makes no sense.  So then you have to assume that Asustralia and Canada plus some other emerging countries will fill the role of the USA in trade... The USA is a 14 Trillion economy, it will take more than a handfull of countries to fill the gap I see the USA entering a deflationary period that will bring down commodity prices... So far Australia depends on China and China depends on the USA , As they say weakness is coming from the top not from the bottom, can the bottom escape the weakness ?. The commodity countries have been in a long bull run and a pause is inevitable. Australia's long term full time job creation depends on Industrial Mining but the secret to big ticket mining is to be under invested because it guarantees high commodity prices  Australia's Interest rate expectations are at their lowest point and what happens after a period of rising interest rates  ?.   Ever since the world started people have been predicting it's end. Mr Prechter is one of them.

Markets are not a one way street, markets breathe.

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Related to #6, I was reading a great article from the Daily Bell, which has an intersting perspective on things if you haven't come across their site before.

Link here

"Here at the Bell, we've recited the figures that the US government provides. These claim 10 percent unemployment. We've also cited "shadow statistics" that claim to show that unemployment is closer to 20 percent. Finally, we've indicated that we think the "real" unemployment in the US is closer to THIRTY percent."

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oh........thats probably a bit OTT

Mind you the 10% has always been with a pinch of salt....the true number is at least 14~16% when you add ppl no longer looking.....twice NZ's.

regards

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Hey Bernard,

How can I stop comment follow-up notifications?

I disabled as instructed (and was told that I had disabled) but I'm still getting messages. 

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Ditto. I've got an inbox chock a block, and I disabled the reply section, too.

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I know this is resolved now for you mandk.

FYI to disable the notification from within a story (which was your case), you need to go to the comment where you checked the (Notify me when new comments are posted) check box and uncheck it from there.

Any problems just email me at amir.bashir@interest.co.nz 

Cheers

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Yep, the graph thats missing is the one to compare with what it would have looked like updated with more accurate data from doing nothing....short answer even worse than the 10%....

A number have said tha the stimulus needed was 1.2T+ and what they got was 800billion...so 2/3rds what was needed...

hence the dire result

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What would people need to save if the equity market 'premium' was actually 2% and not the 6-10% that everyone assumes?  Megan McArdle looks at this in The Atlantic.

"If the return on equities really has fallen, this decline poses a big problem for the average investor who planned to stick 5 to 10 percent of his or her annual income into stock funds and retire comfortably. At an annual inflation-adjusted growth rate of 8 percent, savings of just 5 percent of your income for 30 years will leave you with a nest egg big enough to replace almost half your income when you retire.

"Saving 10 percent will make you really comfortable.  But if the return is 2 to 3 percent, you’ll need to save close to 40 percent to replace almost half of your income. And a 2 percent return seems to be a real possibility—in fact, it’s a hair above the 1.8 percent that Smithers & Co., an asset-allocation consultancy, forecast for U.S. equities over the next decade."

HT http://www.valuecruncher.com/

Are we about to have to work longer and harder while saving more and more?

This BIS story about ageing driving down asset prices comes to mind too...

 

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/bis-forecasts-ageing-population-could-halve-real-house-prices-nz-next-40-years

 

cheers

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P certainly provided huge sums in illegal profit, much of which was laundered through buying real estate - likely to be one of the many reasons that it got so unshackled from wages, because the stats don't include illegal income.  To suggest that P had any effect of fostering optimism is pretty far-fetched though. 

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Considering Miami was built on the profits of 'nose candy'I would be a tad more pragmatic.It might be 'illegal money' but tender of the realm it remains, and finds a home where it can.

 

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Referring to the sparkling water cartoon, there's a lot of talk on the Internet that the Federal Reserve Bank in the USA is privately owned. Horrors !!

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How Reagan's Republicans destroyed the American Republic, by a Reagan republican.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10

cheers

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I don't seriously think anyone could call that guy a republician anymore. He makes some good pionts but it's fairly idealogical.

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Here's why America (and say it quietly...most of the developed world...) is in a mess.

"the reason for the U.S. and global economic malaise is the enormous overhang of debt that is in the process of being deleveraged. Efforts to cure the debt problem by attempting to add even more debt are doomed to fail as various sectors of the economy are either attempting to reduce debt or are not good credit risks. This is a typical pattern after recessions that are caused by a credit crisis."

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2010/08/the-pause-that-doesnt-refresh.html

cheers

Bernard

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Paul Krugman says the Fed is paralysed. Interesting read. Don't agree with it. I don't think the Fed has a choice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/13/opinion/13krugman.html?_r=1

cheers

Bernard

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This is fun

"the negative TIPS yield is a rational reaction to the lunatic casino that has infested essentially every market in the world."

https://self-evident.org/?p=839

cheers

Bernard

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I agree with 8) its a Q of where to put the money so its as safe as practical....given deflation is now highly likely a 1%+ rate while we see a neg rate in any asset/investment class makes sense.....

regards

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Yep i'd put my bet into deflation now.

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Re #1

meanwhile....in Oz.....

Members laundered money by buying residential and commercial properties in Australia

$20M worth.......

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/family-heroin-ring-buste…

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Hugh et others,

Which party is doing a better/less worse job on housing affordability in Australia?

cheers

Bernard

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Stoneleigh over at the Automatic Earth has written an excellent piece on the parallels with the Great Depression and what was said at the time by 'experts':

http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/

 

Absolutely required reading - one for Monday's 10 Bernardo?

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Yes a really good article.With regards to knowing your in a depression,Its a bit like "If you die of Altzimers will you realise your dead ?.

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The only reason we are still using oil is because the oil lobby is powerfull.The only ..and I stress only alternative is liquid hydrogen.One day,in our lifetime every house built will be required to have solar panals on the roof ..and they will all be linked to the Grid...At the end of the grid will be the production plants to crack water.Germany has filling stations now.

  Energy crisis what Energy crisis?

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factboy--" trust me "is widely used in the realestate/financial advise feilds...most people  on hearing this term are  inclined to do exactly the opposite..

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Andyh

cheers. I've popped it into the stream for top 10 on Monday. Sorry didn't see it until after I'd finished. A cracker

Bernard

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    You've got to remember that the ' British Hong Kong police:had a novel way of dealing with crime.It basicly went.;".if crime is inevitiable then why dont we run it".It was well known that if you were a Copper in England and wanted to get ahead a stint over there! would be good for the Bank balance.;This way any criminal that got ideas of Grandeur was quickly advised of the errors of his ways. All money from the proceeds were,divided from the top ranks down. This was endemic and might be the legacy and the mindset prevailing today.Which means were stuffed as the playing field is uneven.

 

 

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Re. political approaches to dealing with gangs.

David Horowitz made one of the most dramatic ideological reversals in the 1970's, from the radical left to one of the USA's (and the world's) foremost neo-conservative writers. One of the things that made him change his mind, was that due to his radical connections he became aware of widespread criminal activity, including murder, on the part of gangs with which he and his fellow radicals were connected.

He had a total epiphany when he realised that contrary to what he and his friends believed and taught - that racial minorities had everything stacked against them by the establishment - the OPPOSITE was true - he was completely unable to break through a dense political web of "protection" of the "Black Panthers" gang to get some particularly brutal murders even investigated properly.

He writes some powerful stuff about this - there is a kind of white guilt complex about the past that leads to the opposite extreme of injustice. Horowitz' personal friend Betty Van Patter was a pretty white girl who was devoted to "social justice", and immersed herself in radical leftwing activism - only to end up apparently raped and murdered by the gangsters with and for whom she was working. No-one was ever charged for her murder, and Horowitz says that it was never properly investigated. His own offers of information were turned down by the police themselves.

Horowitz has spent 20 years now, since writing his first condemnations of the Left, in fear of physical retribution. Fortunately through his writing and charitable support, he has been able to afford security measures including, at times, bodyguards. Especially when he speaks on any University campus.

I sincerely hope there are no paralells to all this down here in Paradise 40 years after Horowitz had his epiphany. By the way, I recommend Horowitz as an political author, he is a valuable antidote to all the Chomsky-ite nonsense that is infesting our own intellectual discourses.

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You will know when the economy has gone passed the event horizon when the councils stop with the waste and splurging!

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Event Horizon! I like that.The Big Bang! The Big Collapse! The Black Hole! But the reality in Cloud Cuckoo Land ,and its next door neighbour Pavlova paradise.We,ve already lived the Dream..Their was a person Unemployed in 1970 I forget his name..If I got bored in the summer,I told the boss to shove it and hung out at the beach .But I got older and had to grow up.I had some kids,and Capitalised the Child benifit for a deposit on a house..a modest house..The Inerest rate was locked at 2%... but a home all the same.I Had a Holden, an old 303 rifle..Petrol was so cheap you didn't notice filling up the car.

So when it all turns to Crap as I'm sure it will ,those oft  remembered days will return,but with the finest wines and lagers,Sure we wont have a lot of imported stuff..but did we really need half the crap anyway?

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Hindenberg Omen? At the risk of sounding unlearned, what was that?

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Jeepers creepers , Bernard , you were full of baloney in your Sunday morning chat with Andrew Patterson , on Radio Live .

 

You stated that we are assuredly about to fall into a double dip recession . Really sure ? 100 % sure ............ Got a crystal ball in the office , buddy ?

 

You stated that we are already entering a depression ............ Economically or mentally ................ 'cos I'd agree with the latter . Again ............. how do you know , 100 % know . Not 30 % nor 15 % know , 100 % ?

 

You stated that 44 million Americans out of a population of 300 m + are receiving food stamps . And as much as I agree with you that that is a portent of gloom , you then asked how would we feel in NZ if a quarter of the population was in similiar straits to those in the USA . 44 million out of 300 m. is one seventh , not a quarter .

 

Love and gummy bears , my friend : RT .

 

P.S. Agree with your summation of Allied Farmers : " Dead Man Walking " 

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steven-orig : Bernard was careless with the " facts " in the interview . That is  OK for politicians , but  not OK for the manager of this site . If you watch CNBC for any given period , you will witness esteemed economists / hedge-fund managers / professors / CEO's of corporations , all trotting out valid - yet opposed - views on the direction that we are heading .

 

And there was  Bernard Hickey expousing his views to the RadioLive audience , as if those were facts , not mere opinions . Little old ladies throughout the land will be peeing their grannie-nappies in fright and horror . Behave Hickey , you naughty little boy !

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Gummy bear hero,

cheers. I hope I didn't make you choke on your bears...

cheers

Bernard

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There is a subtle , yet important difference , between saying " I think that we are entering a double dip recession " , and saying  " We are entering a double dip recession " .

 

You can only confirm the existence of a recession after the GDP has been negative for two quarters . Then it is a fact . After the event , of course .

 

You cannot state that we are in a recession when GDP is growing . Even 0.1 % growth is positive .

 

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Many thanks. Wow. I was accidentally right...

cheers

Bernard

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Gummy bear hero,

Quite right. You got me. Tis 15% not not 25%. I got my fractions wrong while speaking on the hoof.

My views on double dip aren't too radical. Nouriel Roubini and a few others are saying as much.

You are right about NZ maybe being not that different. 1 in 8 working age New Zealanders are on a benefit.

cheers

Bernard

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Hydrogen is indeed merely a vector.

You don't have to have a PHd to have knowledge of such things. The Hindenburg demonstrated what would happen in a hydrogen economy - Wormald shares whould do well, but....

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