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Bernard's Top 10: Housing supply overwhelming demand in China; Asia's 'debt train is running out of track'; What happened to the 15 hour week?; Clarke and Dawe; Dilbert

Bernard's Top 10: Housing supply overwhelming demand in China; Asia's 'debt train is running out of track'; What happened to the 15 hour week?; Clarke and Dawe; Dilbert

Here's my Top 10 items from around the Internet over the last week or so. As always, we welcome your additions in the comments below or via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz

See all previous Top 10s here.

My must read today is #3 on China's debt juggernaut. It's a particularly clear view of the track.

1. Where supply is more than demand - If only New Zealand had this problem.

There are growing signs in China's secondary cities (and even in some of their biggest cities) that the apartment building booms seen since 2008 have generated more supply than demand, which is now pressuring prices lower.

A lot of the development was fueled by shadow banks or, as we'd call them, finance companies offering lots and lots of easy credit. Now the credit is drying up and ....

Now where have we seen this story before?

Now that China's Government is trying to rein in the shadow banks, the cat is coming home to roost among the pigeons, or some similarly ugly mixed metaphor.

Here's FTAlphaville with the chatter from the experts in and around China. The chart below is the clincher.

Every property market leading indicator at the national level turned down in Q1, and for most monthly indicators the rate of decline accelerated through the quarter. That, says Nomura, means the question is no longer “if” or “when”, but rather “how much” China’s structurally oversupplied property market will correct.

The problem at root is monetary policy tightening since mid-2013 which has severely limited the supply of hot money available to property developers from the banking system.

As Anne Stevenson-Yang at JCapital said, the end game here can really only be defaults as cash-starved property developers everywhere drop their prices to drive cash flow, while also slowing delivery of new property to the market.

Nomura have, via CREIS a private data vendor, 45 of the 100 cities surveyed in April experiencing month-on-month property price declines, up from 37 cities in March.

2. The effects of transfers - The big debate offshore over Thomas Piketty's book is now getting down to details about what has happened to incomes before and after taxes.

In New Zealand, the big 'middle class' welfare transfers in Working For Families, Accommodation Supplements and interest free student loans have helped keep income inequality broadly flat since the mid-2000s, along with the hit to the incomes of the rich during the GFC.

But how long can the redistribution work?

The chart below on US middle class post-tax earnings shows the scale of the issue over there.

Here's Jared Bernstein at the New York Times:

If the argument is “don’t worry about market outcomes — we’ll fix the inequalities of the primary distribution in the secondary one,” then every year that market inequality goes up, we’ll have to ratchet up the redistribution function. It is theoretically conceivable that a beneficent top 1 percent might be fine with that, but practically speaking, there’s a limit to such an aggressive strategy of income redistribution.

In fact, comprehensive income data assembled by the Congressional Budget Office show that for middle-income households, transfers and lower taxes explain the vast majority of their income growth in recent decades. Their earnings have declined in real terms 7 percent from 1979 to 2010, but Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance and lower taxes have more than made up the difference.

3. 'The debt train is running out of track in Asia' - Josh Noble writes for the FT from Hong Kong about the growing concerns about Asia's debt-fueled growth engine.

Even during the financial crisis, Asia powered ahead on the back of China’s mammoth stimulus package and record low borrowing costs as central banks across the world slashed rates. Those measures boosted demand for Asian exports but, more importantly, helped companies and consumers fuel domestic growth with cheap credit.

While much has been written about China’s debt addiction, the experience is far from unique within Asia. Credit levels have risen sharply since 2008 in Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia, while already high levels of household debt in South Korea and Taiwan have tracked even higher.

During times of accelerating growth, that might not be a cause for concern. But now much of Asia is faltering. Credit intensity – the amount of borrowing needed to generate a unit of output – has surged, while productivity growth has tumbled. The debt train appears to be fast running out of track just as the world prepares for higher interest rates.

4. Prepare for deflationary forces - Former Chief UBS Economist George Magnus has a warning about what a China property slump might mean for the rest of the world.

If activity levels and prices weaken further, Beijing’s resolve not to respond with traditional stimulus programmes is unlikely to hold. We should expect a potpourri that might include: extra spending on infrastructure and environment programmes; faster urbanisation in inland and western provinces; some relaxation on restraints on homebuying, such as mortgage deposits; and, ultimately, new monetary easing.

Such steps may provide financial markets and the economy with some short-term relief. But if Beijing goes too far it will undermine the essential strategy of rebalancing the economy, in which case the negative economic impact would be larger and last longer. China is different from the west in many ways but the real economic effects of a burst property bubble are the same the world over. Beijing will have to cope with them in the next two years but the rest of us should be prepared for the deflationary consequences in a still fractious global recovery phase.

5. Corrosive effect of slowing payments - This Reuters article on the time it's taking to get paid inside China is a good illustration of what happens when growth momentum turns in an economy built on credit.

As China's economy continues to cool, companies are waiting longer and finding it harder to get paid for goods and services they've already sold, leading to record amounts of receivables - and potential write-offs - on corporate balance sheets.

At Longyuan Construction Group Co, an east China builder of high-rise offices, apartments and highways, receivables last year inched up 4.9 percent to 4.1 billion yuan ($657.3 million), while on average collection times extended to 95.2 days, compared with 76.3 days for 2011.

Slow collection of money owed is causing Longyuan to delay its own payments to steel and cement suppliers, Zhang Li, the company's board secretary, told Reuters, in a ripple effect that is being repeated across the economy. "If you don't pay me and I pay others, aren't I just a sucker?" said Zhang. "I'm not that stupid."

6. The Chinese buyers are back in Australia - After a wee while on the sidelines, the big Chinese buyers of overseas infrastructure and raw materials assets are back on the bidding trail in Australia, reports Business Spectator.

The implications for us are interesting. If China is now actively encouraging companies to get out there and buy things, then we can expect plenty more capital flows into New Zealand.

Since May 8, Beijing has relaxed its grip on outbound foreign investment system. For deals that are under $US1 billion and not in sensitive sectors, Chinese investors are no longer required to get regulatory approval from the NDRC, the main regulator for foreign investments.

 the significant relaxation of the rule means it will be much easier for Chinese companies to invest abroad than ever before. Chinese outbound investment is also likely to be supported by Beijing’s large foreign reserve, which is about $4 trillion.

China’s huge cash pile is no longer seen as a source of strength but a burden for the country’s policy-makers. Premier Li Keqiang said recently during a visit to Africa that China’s foreign reserve had become a burden for the country. Yes, you can have too much money.

Beijing has been actively looking for ways to diversify its cash pile away from the slowing and eroding low interest investment in the US treasury bonds and turning that money into equity -- resources assets abroad is one of the better options.

7. 'Economic possibilities' - Back in 1928 John Maynard Keynes wrote a piece speculating about how fast growing economies powered by amazing new technologies would mean few of us would have to work by 2028 -- 100 years hence.

Elizabeth Kolbert wonders in ths New Yorker review of a book called 'Overwhelmed' about what went wrong, given developed economies are now full of wealthy but time-poor and leisure-poor people.

According to Keynes, the nineteenth century had unleashed such a torrent of technological innovation—“electricity, petrol, steel, rubber, cotton, the chemical industries, automatic machinery and the methods of mass production”—that further growth was inevitable. The size of the global economy, he forecast, would increase sevenfold in the following century, and this, in concert with ever greater “technical improvements,” would usher in the fifteen-hour week.

Four-fifths of the way through Keynes’s century, half of his vision has been realized. Since “Economic Possibilities for Our Grandchildren” was published, the U.S. gross domestic product has grown, in real terms, by a factor of sixteen, and G.D.P. per capita by a factor of six. And what holds for the United States goes for the rest of the world, too: in the past eighty years, the global economy has grown at a similar rate.

Burnett has concluded that keeping up with the Joneses now means trying to outschedule them. (In one recent letter, a mother boasts of schlepping her kids to so many activities that she drives “a hundred miles a day.”) “There’s a real ‘busier than thou’ attitude,” Burnett says.

A second theory that Schulte considers is that “the overwhelm” is a function not so much of how many things Americans have to do but of how much time they spend thinking about how many things they have to do.

8. 'Get ready to move inland' - This New Republic piece takes a long look at rising sea levels and how this shift might force us to spend enormous amounts of money to fend off the seas, or to move.

While actual abandonment would not happen for many years (we’re talking centuries), the studies warned that our actions now are irrevocable and will lock in these future sea level rises. In other words, our descendants will be dealing with irreversible damage that we are committing today.

So, fast forward a few centuries from now, what will the world look like? What will the United States look like? Will people still live in Miami? Boston? New York? We don’t know what technology we will have then and we aren’t able to predict the pattern of storms. We do know that sea levels are rising and will threaten cities along the coasts of the United States.

“Barring some extraordinary advances in technology that we currently do not foresee,” Robert Hartwig, the president of the Insurance Information Institute, said, “you are left with the options of retreating from coastal areas not only in the United States, but around the world, or building fortifications against rising sea levels that would make the projects that we now see in places like the Netherlands look like child’s play.”

9. What Narendra Modi should do - David was right on Monday to say the election of Narendra Modi was big news for New Zealand in much the same way the appointment of Xi Jingping was big news for New Zealand. Certainly bigger than any re-election of Barack Obama or the election of David Cameron.

The chart below courtesy of the Reserve Bank on projected global demand for dairy imports explains why.

Here's Graeme Wheeler's comments in his speech:

India, rather than China, is forecast by the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences to be the major new market opportunity for dairy exports in the future. The Bureau projects global demand for dairy products to increase from USD7 billion in 2007 to USD85 billion in 2050 (in 2007 US$) By 2050, India’s import demand for dairy products is projected to be USD48 billion – more than three times China’s USD15 billion, given the projected growth in China’s domestic production. World Bank projections suggest that China and India could be the world’s largest and third largest economies at that time.

Here's Quartz with 5 things Modi should do to India's economy and why he won't be able to do them.

10. Totally Clarke and Dawe on the Australian Budget. Tony Abbott is building a better Great Nation.

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China is either a very slow motion train wreck in progress , or its so big it can defy all known economic fundamentals or scenarios

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I hope you are right

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Good point kimy. The Chinese model of economic management is entirely different to that ofthe mixed market economy of the West. With so many misconceptions and misapprehension in economic discourse its refrshing to see such cleareyed insight. 

 

Its worse than that. The economies of the West are still measurably wealthier than China , its the middle which has been hollowed out and transferred to China and displaced by automated factories, capital knowledge, and technical intensive firms or unproductive and low value service industries. This has created the global imbalances which fuel complaints by the Chinese that the US consumes so much from China yet produces little they want to buy.

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Yes I wonder what the total value of technology knowhow, voluntary or otherwise transfered to China over the past 30 years would be. It would easy surpass the accumulated trade deficits of the West.

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Re  #3 Debt in Asia , this is not a new phenomenon , call it Deja vu , history repeating itself or whatever you may ,   it was  debt fueled growth that led to the spectacular crash called the 1997 Asian crisis

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PREDICTION :- John Key could lose the next election over the migration issue.

Its now completely out of control ,  where are we going to house all these people when we already have a housing shortage

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#2 - I think the language is again wrong here. The word "redistribution" implies a sort of Robin Hood scenario where more is taken from the rich to be given to the poor.

 

Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

Throughout the growth in inequality over the recent past decades (virtually since neo-liberalism came on the scene) taxation in the higher income brackets has been reducing and corporate taxation has been reducing.

 

The "redistribution" (if you want to use that word) has been achived by borrowing more and "redistributing" the national debt.

 

Effectively, it is our children and our children's children who are forfeiting their future - and the most ridiculous bit is, in doing so, they still must live a relatively impoverished (or highly debt ridden) lifestyle in the present. 

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Kate, the budget for the redistribution seems to total about $2.9B a year (Working for families, in work tax credit, paid parental leave etc) while Super is about $11B a year - we are funding both ends of the age spectrum. Bring in the health costs of the over 80 year olds and I suspect we could add a few more $B. Probably all debt funded, but maybe not. Would be good to understand what IS debt funded and what is from revenue.

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And Super costs were up 6% year-on-year.

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3 & 6

We will have Capital Flows, only if we, as a nation, as a voter  "allow it"

Allowing all this hot money, will potentially burn us all.  You cannot compete with readily printed money. Thrown about seemingly at random.

So beware, otherwise no one in New Zealand is safe from being outbid, out sourced, out manouvered, out  voted in our own country.

Not that we are not already going down that track!?...  for  that is why we have overseas banks a plenty and more to come and a Banker at the helm.

Some people will do almost anything for money, as they have already proven.

(I say Charity begins at home, but that was another gripe).

You only have to read between the lines on this blog and other blogs.

You only have to read the court and gossip columns to see what gives and who to.

(We are a cheap date, looking to get, well....there is no polite word for it, so as usual, I had better watch my step as my comments usually get deleted).

Never upset the Management of this once fair nation.

Because now it  is not.

You have been warned.

 

 

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Cheap date, love it. Keep it coming.

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Thanks anyway.

Too kind.

However, I will be giving you all a rest soon for a few months, whilst I escape the winter, for warmer climes and better value cost of living experiences, elsewhere.

I am a cheap date so must love and leave you, my dear friends. Will come again another day.

No point in outstaying my welcome here anymore. Some do not approve.

Like many a true word, spoken in jest, thanks, but no thanks.

You can keep New Zealand.  (For a while).

Bent as a nine dollar Aussie note....for what it is worth and dependant on China and others for what it ain't and the media for a biased view point. Nothing new there.

A play on words.. mangled metaphors are my speciality.....but ya get my drift.

 

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Oh come on now Mr Alter, no need to be a sore loser. God this site needs a bit levity. Constant dribble from budding Mr Trumps, wittering on about Auckland house prices, is killing it. Don't be a stranger.

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Wot......ever next, cheap houses, for an even cheaper date.

Cannot have that, may set a bad tone for Awklanders.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/05/19/rural_studio_builds_brand…

But there is enough hot air to harness hereabouts...talking about houses to heat up the economy.

The Chinese love a lot of gas...ask a Russian depot. 400 Billion.....Chump change,  ask Prince Charlie for his views.

Wants to grow their boundaries...but do not have any...is my worry.

Bye.

 

 

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When capitalism can no longer support the economy it operates in the capitalism is dead.

 

When capitalism can ony survive when the government props it up with working for families, accomodation suppliments and so on then capitalism is dead

 

When everyone is dependant upon the government to keep the economy going then that is not capitalism it is communism.

 

We now have communisum disguised as capitalism

 

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Richard Duncan has proposed the theory that we haven't had Capitalism since 1971.  What replaced it was "Creditism" and this credit is created by the banks.  This will not end well.

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No, this isnt communism disguised as capitalism at all, more like fascism.

I think whats left of capitalism is actually now looking parasitic. it can no longer profit via making real goods so now does it via financial instruments of mass destruction.

When you talk about Govn propping up capitalism well look at the US.  Just how much of the Govn spending by the US Govn over 70 years has seen capialism expand? I'd suggest it looks a significant effect.  If that is or was the driver why isnt that effect continuing today?

In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists 14 general properties of fascist ideology.

its an interesting 14 points, take them and look at the USA...

regards

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Gee, and here I was thinking that all this private property proved that we weren't all commies! Thanks for setting me right Mike B...

 

In seriousness though higher concentration of wealth has always been the goal of capitalism. Everyone being dependent on a relatively few wealthy folks isn't a sign of a failure of capitalism. This is what 'success' looks like. Capitalism might indeed be bleeding, but it's not communism holding the knife. These injuries are self inflicted.

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#8 quick somebody tell arch chicken littles Flannery, Gillard and Rudd their beachfront houses are in Danger!

The latest Gallup number show what the general public think of media hyped climate doom porn.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/169289/jobs-government-economy-remain-top-pr…

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The media do not hype climate change reporting.

Quite the reverse, through the influence of the Murdochs and the Kochs et al; the scientific illiteracy of journalists; the appetite for sensationalism; and sheer ignorance; the ill-informed or criminally mischievous denial industry receives exposure far in excess of its relative size and infinitely more than its credibility.

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Yeah I read the Koch brothers went back in time and changed the thermometers in 1860 and 1910. How else could it be explained it warmed just as fast back then (with bugger all industrial CO2) as it did 1975 to 1998? Ill informed - you've got that right.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8511670.stm

Pesky observations screwing up a good scare story:

"Simulations conducted in advance of the 2013–14 assessment from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) suggest that the warming should have continued at an average rate of 0.21 °C per decade from 1998 to 2012. Instead, the observed warming during that period was just 0.04 °C per decade, as measured by the UK Met Office in Exeter and the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, UK."

I guess the Koch bros got to UK Met and the IPCC too.

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You have heard of the Industrial Revolution, right?

 

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Didn't really crank up until 1945 and 25% of industrial CO2 went in past 2000 so that doesn't really explain 1860 and 1910 warming phases and the stark lack of warming now. More likely the models suck.

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There is warming, in the last 20 years we have seen warmer years and decades in hundreds of years.

Thenthere is the insurance industry and the whining they are doing over exposure.

Really there are so many aspects that all add up to warming denial isnt rational.

regards

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I may have had a long day at work today, but are you seriously asking "How else can it be explained it warmed just as fast back then"? Are you really that innumerate? Are you really genuinely incapable of understanding how if you choose a few time periods in a long sequence you can find the same rate if change at different points?

Here is an animated gif, note how it warmed just as fast in lots of periods.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Escalator_2012_500.gif

 

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Are you seriously quoting skepticalscience? The cartoonist run astro-turfing quote fabricator? Is he still photo shopping his face onto nazis?

If it was so easy to explain why didn't UEA's climate high priest Phil Jones have a stab at it?

 "A few time periods"? You make out like 1910 to 1940 is a couple of years when it is a significant chunk of the 20th century and longer than the recent 75-98 warming phase. You did read the link right?

Back in the day pre 1945 there was hardly any industrial derived CO2 yet is was warming as fast '75-98. Post 2000 something like 25% of industrial CO2 has been added to the admosphere and we have a paltry 0.04/dec warming or even less going by satellite data. If CO2 is a such a big fat driver why is it warming slower now than in 1860 and 1910 when there was a hell of a lot less CO2 around? If the IPCC had such a great understanding why was their 21st prediction panning out so badly?

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I can grab the equivalent gif from lots of different places, that doesn't change the numbers and it doesn't change the ability to draw lines with the same slope at different times. But thank you for answering my question.

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Yes, same slope different times. You just go ahead and ignore the fact the different time periods had vastly different industrial CO2 concentrations. CO2 supposedly the driver and all that. What made the slopes the same pre 1940? Why didn't people back then set up a big gravy train? I guess people had real problems back then not imagined ones.

 

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For those playing along at home, Profile is apparently fixated on that he can connect some of these black dots (global temperature) at different time periods and get the same slope line, and yet somehow people keep insisting temperature has something to do with CO2 (atmospheric CO2 concentration is the red line).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6a4i1shpi8j0hb/tempCO2.png

Those are just the mean annual global temperature because as I understand it Profile is ignoring error ranges, and I am trying to graph what he is talking about.

I'm not entirely clear which dots I should be connecting in the 1860 to 1910 period to get a slope line that matches the 1975 to 1998 period. But if anyone wants to play connect the dots to find the magic combination, go right ahead.

 

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Or you could just save yourself sometime and take Phil Jones word for it in the BBC interview linked above. Why mess around with charts when you can get it from the high priest himself?

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I did read the aricle, but evidence increasingly suggests you did not. When you talk about the warning 1860 to 1910, are you infact talking about the 1860 to 1880 period in the article, which is about 30 years shorter (more than half) than what you were suggesting.

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Oh you mean the real scientific site that blows all your lies out of the water?

yeah sure...nothing like the truth.

regards

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I realise that I'm wasting my breath, cognitive dissonance and the backfire effect are powerful stuff, but the atmospheric heating is a small part of overall heat build-up.

If a strong El Niño eventuates this year as seems likely, you may well have cause to reconsider.

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Is a strong El Nino bullish for house prices?

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Who knows, ppl seem nutty over hosues right now.  An El Ninoould signal very bad weather on the west side of NZ.  But thats Ok the farmers reps dont believe in climate change, so it wont happen. 

 

regards

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thanks - made me laugh

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Really this is the best you and your ilk can do.  1998 is a peak year, hence if you knew anything about math, you would know its unjustified in picking that.

regards

 

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So what you are telling us is that in an American poll of what is the most important problem right now, 6 times as many the proportion of the population think the Enivornment is the most serious problem right compared to people in New Zealand who are actually prepared to vote for the ACT party if an election was held tomorrow.

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Hilarious exposure of the lop-sided climate debate. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and Bill Nye:
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That was brilliant! Thanks.

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This was well worth the watch IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrJJxn-gCdo#t=566

regards

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Just because ppl dont want to know about the science doesnt make it invalid, it just makes them stupid.

regards

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Has this been covered?:

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The most expensive housing market in North America is not where you’d think. It’s not New York City or Orange County, California, but Vancouver, British Columbia. Now, Vancouver is a beautiful city—a thriving deep-water port, a popular site for TV and movie shoots. By all accounts, it is a wonderful place to live. But nothing about its economy explains why—in a city where the median income is only around seventy grand—single-family houses now sell for close to a million dollars apiece and ordinary condos go for five or six hundred thousand dollars. “If you look at per-capita incomes, we look like Reno or Nashville,” Andy Yan, an urban planner at the Vancouver-based firm Bing Thom Architects, told me. “But our housing prices easily compete with San Francisco’s.”

When price-to-income or price-to-rent ratios get out of whack, it’s often a sign of a housing bubble. But the story in Vancouver is more interesting. Almost by chance, the city has found itself at the heart of one of the biggest trends of the past two decades—the rise of a truly global market in real estate.

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The globalization of real estate upends some of our basic assumptions about housing prices. We expect them to reflect local fundamentals—above all, how much people earn. In a truly global market, that may not be the case. If there are enough rich people in China who want property in Vancouver, prices can float out of reach of the people who actually live and work there. So just because prices look out of whack doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a bubble. Instead, wealthy foreigners are rationally overpaying, in order to protect themselves against risk at home. And the possibility of losing a little money if prices subside won’t deter them. Yan says, “If the choice is between losing ten to twenty per cent in Vancouver versus potentially losing a hundred per cent in Beijing or Tehran, then people are still going to be buying in Vancouver.”

The challenge for Vancouver and cities like it is that foreign investment isn’t an unalloyed good. It’s great for existing homeowners, who see the value of their homes rise, and for the city’s tax revenues. But it also makes owning a home impossible for much of the city’s population. And the tendency of foreign buyers not to inhabit investment properties raises the spectre of what Yan has called “zombie neighborhoods.” A recent study he did found that a quarter of the condos in a luxury neighborhood called Coal Harbour were vacant on census day.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2014/05/26/140526ta_talk_surowiecki

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as if we didn't know.  "New Zealanders just can't afford these prices" - Bayleys.

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I was traveling regularly to Vancouver over 25 years ago. There was a lot of agonising even then over Chinese takeover of local real estate.  Locals were very vocal about it.

Plus ça change...

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Looks like the shale oil predictions for the much touted US Monterey formation doesnt add up to a hill of beans:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-oil-20140521-story.html

First Poland is a bust for shale oil (the great hope for European shale oil production) and now Californian shale oil (once upon a time the next big hope for US shale oil production) turns to dust. There be a pattern emerging here...........

Meanwhile oil prices cruise on serenely at the $110 mark, just waiting for the next push upwards to begin........

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