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Yu Yongding is guardedly optimistic about the current state - and likely trajectory - of US-China economic relations

Public Policy / opinion
Yu Yongding is guardedly optimistic about the current state - and likely trajectory - of US-China economic relations
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In 2018, Steve Bannon, then-US President Donald Trump’s chief strategist, argued that the United States needed to “decouple” from China. Since then, the term has become a fixture in discussions of Sino-American relations – to the point that some, such as former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, have warned that it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How salient is that risk today?

Some decoupling is undeniably underway. In recent years, the two countries have been locked in a tariff war. Moreover, the US has implemented sanctions against the Chinese tech giants ZTE and Huawei, authorised the delisting of Chinese companies from US stock exchanges unless they meet US auditing standards, and added a number of Chinese companies to its “entity list,” thereby subjecting them to additional trade restrictions.

This trend extends beyond trade and technology. For example, the number of Chinese students enrolled in American universities has plummeted. And the US has announced plans for a diplomatic boycott of the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing, prompting condemnation from China.

Yet it is unlikely that either China or the US is as keen to decouple as these developments may suggest. China has adopted a passive approach, reacting to US actions, while taking care not to initiate any fights. And while Americans broadly support a tough line on China, far fewer support cutting economic ties.

Decoupling is certainly not in the interest of the US business community. As the US Chamber of Commerce recently reported, “American companies would lose hundreds of billions of dollars if they slashed investment in China or the nations increased tariffs.”

This may partly explain why even Trump’s vice president, Mike Pence, in 2019, answered with a “resounding no” when asked if the administration wanted to decouple from China. More recently, US Trade Representative Katherine Tai argued that, far from decoupling – which “isn’t a realistic outcome” – the US is pursuing “recoupling”; US officials are merely pinpointing their goals in this process.

Whatever those goals turn out to be, some recoupling is already happening. As the US-China Business Council reports, after the two countries signed the Phase One trade agreement in 2020, both sides halted tariff escalations. Furthermore, China instituted a “robust system of tariff exclusions,” with the US also instituting some exclusions.

This has contributed to a rebound in bilateral trade. In 2020, US goods exports to China grew by roughly 18%, more than making up for the tariff-driven drop of more than 11% in 2019. With that, China has retained its position as the third-largest market for US goods exports.

China has also been maintaining – or even deepening – its ties with the rest of the global economy. As Nicholas R. Lardy of the Peterson Institute for International Economics observes, “despite economic and financial tensions and a plethora of foreign restrictions on the transfer of technology to China,” the country continues to attract “record amounts” of foreign direct investment. In fact, in 2020, China’s inbound FDI grew by more than 10%, to $212 billion, putting its share of global FDI at an all-time high of one-quarter, almost twice its share in 2019.

China’s leaders seem happy to continue on this path. In September, China’s central bank and financial regulators pledged to optimise market-access requirements for foreign banks and insurance companies, improve rules on cross-border transactions between parent companies and subsidiaries, and expand channels for foreign capital to participate in the domestic financial market.

China is also pursuing complementary domestic reforms, aimed, for example, at achieving competitive neutrality. And it is using market mechanisms (such as exchange-rate flexibility) to balance its trade account.

Furthermore, China is working to strengthen its adherence to international rules and norms, such as intellectual-property protections – a key concern of foreign companies operating in China. As the US-China Business Council notes, China has made “steady efforts” to improve protection and enforcement of IP rights, and its IP laws and regulations “increasingly reflect international standards.”

China’s leaders are also working to strengthen regional and multilateral cooperation. The country’s calls for revitalising the World Trade Organisation, its participation in the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, and its application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership exemplify this effort.

Overall, it seems clear that China is committed to upholding global value chains. Yes, it is adjusting its economic structure in order to reduce reliance on foreign demand, and investing heavily in research and development, with the goal of improving its capacity for indigenous innovation.

But, contrary to what some Western observers believe, China has been pursuing its own form of decoupling for more than a decade, since it launched a campaign to develop more advanced technologies at home. This is in response to Western efforts to deny Chinese firms access to advanced technologies – efforts that, in many cases, have caught the Chinese by surprise. If any steps China takes in this process turn out to be problematic, they can be negotiated within the WTO framework.

This might not be exactly what the US envisioned when it supported China’s accession to the WTO 20 years ago. But, in its own way, China is fulfilling the promise of that step, and it will most likely continue to do so, as long as the US lets it. Nonetheless, Rudd’s warning should not be taken lightly. If we keep talking about decoupling, we may well get it. That is an outcome we would all live to regret.


Yu Yongding, a former president of the China Society of World Economics and director of the Institute of World Economics and Politics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, served on the Monetary Policy Committee of the People’s Bank of China from 2004 to 2006. Copyright: Project Syndicate, 2021, and published here with permission.

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Last night I watched a recent interview with Elon Musk, talking (remotely) to a bunch of US CEOs.  He thinks we are headed toward a world with a Chinese economy x3 the US.

If he's anywhere close to right we better hope the CCP matures into something that listens to criticism rather than reflexively fires accusations back.  A lot more of the cards are going to be in China's hand.

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Nah, he's not right. The demographic bomb explodes before the Chinese economy gets much bigger. Take away 1/2 the population and see what that does to the Chinese economy.

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And they're corrupt from top to bottom, not as strong as the west fears. Decoupling is coming like it or not. Make sure you have alternative suppliers of goods.

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I expect both China and US will shrink - the party is over.

Steven Van Meter makes a good case (and he has been consistent on this) of US inflation soon dropping away, interest rates then falling, and low growth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfG3n--iT88

The first bit is about China's RE Ponzi woes, and the second half is about the US.

His main thesis is that the Fed doesn't see this coming and is tightening too late, just as they shouldn't.

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They become twice as wealthy per capita?

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I am now reading Lao Tuze's Tao Te Ching (道德经) translated by Red Pine to see how much nuance in the book can be captured in English.

Say about 50%.

Well, the point is the US seems increasingly too shallow to counter China's rejuvenation. Because if the best US literati can only understand 50% of China, how are you gonna win the war without fully understand your enemy?

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There are only two reasons why China is the enemy now..

  1. To fuel the never ending and obscene needs of the US military industrial complex
  2. To protect US ideological and corporate hegemony.
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Good point. When I watch Chinese films and TV (subtitles) they often speak a few words of English. When I watch American TV and films I rarely hear Mandarin.  When the British ruled most of the world they learned foreign languages - that stopped after Victoria and so did the rapid decline of the British Empire.

I believe everything can be translated - try Alex Bellos's book on translation.  If you can detect loss of nuance then you can improve the translation.

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Even when Alexander the Great conquered other countries he all ways made an effort to accommodate the culture and religion of the defeated.

 

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Send in traders and recruit a local army and an empire grows.  Missionaries cause the problems.

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We're about halfway through the planet's physical resources - particularly the energy resources without which we can do b-all.

The dying Empire is demonstrably fraying. But there isn't enough planet for a like-for-like replacement. This has bee obvious for some time. And all players are now facing rampant inflation re essentials (presumably resulting in  mass dumping of non-essentials), an inability to repay debt, aging infrastructure and increasing supply issues.

So war. (s).

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But if you can convince everyone that your analysis is correct then the world will not end in war but in a universal quiet apathetic decline.  The entire world will be like those Romans in the early middle ages living in the ruins of the Colosseum and having no concept of who had built it.

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Chinas rhetoric and it's actions don't match up , it's talk on trade and WTO rules don't match it's actions with trade bans such as on Lithuania and Australia. Personally I think it is playing along to gain western finance and will continue to change the rules around governance of its firm's to financially harm the investors,  watch what happens to the offshore investors bonds in Evergrand to give an indication. Western greed for yield is drawing in funds but I will be surprised if it doesn't have a large cost of doing business in an authoritarian state .

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US Democracy? Refer to what Bernie Sanders said

The people who Adam Smith called the "masters of mankind", following their maxim of "All for ourselves and nothing for anyone else", have made the US government of the one percent, by the one percent, and for the one percent. Ordinary Americans are thus left out of the political picture, especially after election seasons. They tend to share the feeling that the government doesn't really care what they think. Only twenty-four percent of respondents said in a Pew study in April this year that they trust the federal government, having been let down time and again on everyday matters. Their perception is backed by numbers. Political scientist Martin Gilens concluded that about 70 percent of the US population have no way of influencing policy. If that's not bad enough, check out the Princeton research that found the opinions of up to 90 percent of Americans have essentially no impact at all.

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In an ideal world, we would not have either Corporate America or Authoritarian China. 

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The irony in all of this is the covid hiccup. A virus created in a lab in Wuhan, with financial support from large North American University money, has created a logjam of stuff making it's way east across the Pacific. Limited travel & limited international tourism has created the need (greed?) for more stuff in America, hence the backlog of ships off USA's West Coast. If China planned it to play out this way (after they were snubbed by America 4 years ago) they couldn't have done a better job of it, if they tried. Perhaps the peoples of the Western Pacific have got more smarts than the peoples of the Eastern Pacific, than we thought?

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Sounds slightly conspiracy minded to me. It is probably more simplistic as in people didn't travel so they spent. The products required were mainly manufactured in China.

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And to add to that if you look at it in reverse China has imported more from around the world , and haven't we done well.

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