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LVR limits might cause a short-term house price spike; could lead to poor decisions by home buyers, property commentator Alistair Helm says

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LVR limits might cause a short-term house price spike; could lead to poor decisions by home buyers, property commentator Alistair Helm says

The Reserve Bank's move to put "speed limits" on high loan to value (LVR) lending could produce a short-term spike in house prices, a property industry commentator warns.

Alistair Helm, the founder of website properazzi.co.nz, says the move by the RBNZ to limit banks to 10% of new lending on loans in excess of 80% of a property's value from October 1 could cause a "rush to the exit" by buyers.

Helm, who was also the founding CEO of Realestate.co.nz, told interest.co.nz he was concerned that the RBNZ had given quite a long lead time for the introduction of the limits.

He had talked with a local Auckland real estate agent who reported that they had a sharp upturn in interest from buyers since the announcement.

Buyers, Helm said, were likely to feel urgency and  a sense they wanted to "buy something" because they might not make the 20% deposit level when October 1 comes.

“They feel like they are sitting there with a bag of money. They want to buy a house and they feel pressure and almost believing they’ve got to buy something.

“That’s very worrying and dangerous potentially because just at the moment the Reserve Bank want to put some dampening on the market it could suddenly cause a degree of inflationary activity.”

“Given this love of auctions that the industry has for everything in the property market, particularly in Auckland. With that kind of demand matched to the fact that we still have a limited supply, it’s going to push prices up, absolutely."

Rush to the exits

On top of potential pricing ramifications, Helm also believed that this "rush to the exit" might also result in some bad buying decisions.

“There could be a crash and burn scenario of people buying houses that are not with a building survey, or houses they can’t afford, or houses in the wrong place – all of that worries me.”

Helm said he was concerned that there was a "laissez faire" attitude within the real estate industry that it was up to the buyer to do their own due diligence on a property.

“Almost as if, well if they can’t do it, that’s their fault.”

“...I mean surely there’s a relationship here with their customers, clients and people they are trying to help, to help them do due diligence. A two week auction, a five day auction, a one-day auction, how can anyone do due diligence?"

Helm believed that the October 1 deadline might see a lot of auction sales brought forward.

Pressure on

“That will put more pressure on buyers to act quickly. “

He said in the slightly longer term, however, that the LVR move was "the right thing to do” and eventually it will apply “some kind of braking to this somewhat overheated market”.

Helm said that prior to the RBNZ announcement there were signs that the housing market was beginning to level. The rate of increase in year-on-year house sales was declining.  It was down from 20% earlier in the year to about 14% now.

Sales were still growing heading toward 80,000 transactions a year, up from a low of 55,000 three years ago and compared with a high 10 years ago of 110,000.  Prices were easing a little and the market was starting to come to a bit more caution and "hesitation".

“...But the last seven days – a bit of a worry.”

Recent sales figures have shown that about 40% of houses in the Auckland region are being sold at auction.

Auction woes

Helm doesn't like what he sees in this trend.

“The principle of an auction is not wrong. But the principle of bringing auctions forward in this very compressed marketing period that used to be traditionally three to four weeks - which is a good time for all the parties to evaluate the properties, to get surveys done, to get due diligence done, to think about the process - is now being truncated to at least two weeks and sometimes less.

“That I think is disadvantageous for the buyers." 

Helm said the agents would counter that and argue that they act for the vendor.

But he said he was concerned that the vendor was not being informed enough that buyers might be missing out because of compressed time frames.

"There are buyers who cannot come to the party, who might pay more than the person who won it at auction. They may even be able to go unconditional. But they couldn’t be satisfied themselves about the condition of the property, or the due diligence, or they couldn’t get the finance sorted out, or they were just away at the time and missed the first open home.

“So, it worries me that it’s a bit of a blind rush to a single solution that I don’t think is being given enough consideration by vendors."

A 'dangerous' silver bullet

The auction process was seen as “the silver bullet" by the real estate industry. "And I think that is dangerous."

Helm said there was huge "disintermediation” going on in the real estate industry.

Marketing was now a “one task”job that was all about putting the property on Trade Me.

Helm pointed out that the work done by the auctioneer could just as easily be done by a licensed auctioneer for somebody conducting a private sale of their house.

"We are seeing more of this.  I’ve noticed more of this. And I’ve talked to people who are selling their house privately, on Trade Me and organising a licensed auctioneer to carry out a fully professional facilitated auction on the day at the property and they achieve excellent results."

Wake-up call

“And that I think for the industry should be a wake-up call...

"...If you don’t watch it and consider how you are doing, you could be out of a job.”

Estate agents had "driven down this road of believing auctions are a panacea" to selling houses, Helm said.

"In a way it is almost taking the hands off the wheel and saying, 'well let somebody else complete the sale', which is the auctioneer, forgetting that auctioneers are not purely real estate agents. Real estate agents can be auctioneers but auctioneers don’t have to be real estate agents.

"The guy who sells the furniture is licensed under the 1928 act and can sell a house. It doesn’t need to be a real estate agent. So, an interesting future for the industry I think."

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23 Comments

I thought it was going to be10% ?

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How come you don't have any navigation on the video or options to change the quality? It means I have to view on the youtube website instead.

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There is some pretty good advice in this piece. Chch has numerous auctions pulled forward and there is very little time to do due diligence. 

 

It is a shame we haven't got "kimy" here on this site anymore making comments. Has he given up, gone on holiday, or been kicked off?

 

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What happens if you've bought with a 10% deposit and pay off 5% over a mortgage term and need to remorgage with only 15% equity? (not taking into account capital gains)

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This article discusses what might happen before October. The big question is what happens after october. Possibly a slump?

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Ha... you have been in Adelaide too long Matt in Auck (now Adelaide).

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OK YL, your pick? Prices to keep up at 10% plus per annum?

Prices to double "within a few years" as per Ollie's prediction?

Put your balls on the line mate!

 

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Clear the way - balls coming through.

Yes 10% inflation to be maintained in Auckland because the core issue is one of supply - which LVR restrictions do nothing to address.

The core issue is not too much credit being advanced to people who cant afford to service it.

So this RBNZ move is a solution looking for a problem.

Nice to see them move decisively however - nothing worse than dithering and wishywashing around.

Boom.

SK.

 

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Akld's issue is a problem of both supply and demand. This move will certainly take some heat out of the demand side.

I think prices might fall back a bit - but not much - after October - and then probably resume an upward trend.

I still rate a bust a chance though (maybe 30-40% probability?)  

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Great idea - why doesn't everyone play this game? Not as point scoring but commiting to a number (and the risk of getting it wrong / losing face) it forces everyone to really consider the questions carefully. Might be insightful instead of wading through 100's of long comments. 

What are the questions?

1. Prices to keep up at 10% plus per annum?

2. Prices to double "within a few years" as per Ollie's prediction?

3. ?

Fantasy Real Estate 2013 - winner gets the drinks in...

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3) Household debt stable (within the margin of error of the longterm trend) suggesting both banks and the targeted LVR borrowers are being prevented from spreading the instability of an overheated market.

The effect on house prices, none, as targeted borrowers are not driving the market compared to other forces. As they re not stronfly connected, house prices could do anything.

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Banks are already putting up their fixed interest rates now knowing there is a rush to buy because of LVR and fear of missing out...probably see them go down again by year end...

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Its a storm in a teacup - the real question is:

When RBNZ realise LVR restrictions failed to have the desired effect - will they then resort to ramping rates harder and faster than previously expected?

 

 

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Matt in Auck - expect 15% Auckland house price increase from October 1st  2013 over the following 12 months due to a big net migration gain. From Tony Alexander this week:

 

And migration data out yesterday show more and more buyers arriving every day looking for property. In the year to July the net migration gain for New Zealand was 10,569 people. This was up from 7,907 one month earlier (that is a very quick turnaround), a net loss of 3,799 people a year ago, and an average net gain for the past decade of 10,520 per annum. In other words we have now officially entered above average net migration gain territory. Where may this end? 

 

Those holding off since the end of 2008 because they believed silly forecasts that house prices would collapse 40% are now facing average Auckland house prices instead near 40% higher than they were back then. 

http://tonyalexander.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/WO-August-22.pdf

 

 

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"And migration data out yesterday show more and more buyers arriving every day looking for property."

Well that statement just shows up Tony A for the property spruiker that he really is. Really unprofessional comment. Why...because much of the migration gains are due to fewer kiwis leaving, and more coming back from Aus. Hardly the torrent of cashed up foreign buyers that his comment implies. 

Time will tell....

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These cashed up foreign buyers are being actively targeted by desperate Euro countries, from Bloomberg:

Cyprus, Greece and Portugal are providing resident permitsto foreign buyers, while Spain is about to adopt a similar measure. The chance to purchase a home at depressed prices in southern Europe and gain what’s known as a golden visa is mostly being sold to Chinese investors, according to brokers.

“Property is what really attracts China’s rich,” said Nuno Durao, a founding partner at Irglux, a unit of real estate agency Fine & Country, in Cascais, Portugal. “With just half a million euros, high-net-worth Chinese investors will get a good return on their property investment and at the same time enjoy a handful of EU benefits they don’t have in China.”

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If you look at the data 3 years ago interest rates were alot higher, up to 7%, and 5% deposit mortgages were unheard of after the GFC. Net migration gains are climbing now too compared to 3 years ago. So increased net migration, lower interest rates and easy mortgages are going to equal rising house prices. Does anyone remember John key pulling the affordable housing gateway scheme from hobsonville point about a year ago because he said interest rates were so low the properties were now affordable. 12 months later and you can't get in there for less than $750,000. So it looks like we are going to get restrictions on lvrs, interest rate rises are on the horizon so now all we need is the brakes put on immigration and house prices should make sense again. I don't see house prices continuing to rise 10% year on year. Higher interest rates will put paid to that.

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Maybar: You better hurry up or miss the boat all together. The spill-over from Auckland has reached Wellington already:

 An Oriental Parade mansion valued among Wellington's most expensive homes is on the market two years after its last sale.
 The house at 298 Oriental Pde was bought in 2011 for $4.55 million, which was less than half the original asking price.
 It went on sale in 2007 for $10m but was eventually bought by businessman Kyung Duk Chang in July 2011. At the reduced price, it was the third most expensive home sold in the capital that year.

"The market at the top end has improved in recent times . . . there have been a lot more sales in that area - 290 [Oriental Pde] was sold for [around] $4.4m only a few months ago. That's a lot smaller than this one.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/9079516/A-commanding-price-for-a-capital-home

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BigDaddy

Do you still agree with Ollie that prices will double in the next couple of years? And that rents will double too?

What a load of garbage

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In Auckland, overseas buyers are paying with cash. LVRs are of no concern.

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Thats fine as there is no debt over-hang...ergo us the tax payer wont have to bail some twerp who overpaid out.

regards

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yeah but overseas buyers apparently are a fairly small %

On the other hand, first home buyers have always been a big market driver.

Cut out a whole lot of potential first home buyers and the market will almost certainly slow 

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Cash buyers currently make up roughly 12% of the property buyers. After the GFC cash buyers were around 20%. This data is from property iq and they suggest that the numbers of cash buyers hasn't varied much, but the percentage has dropped as the demand from first home buyers and property investors has increased. The factors fueling this demand are low interest rates and easy credit ie. 5% deposit mortgages. So currently 88% of buyers have mortgages. Incomes are relatively fixed so if interest rates are high, purchase prices are lower and if interest rates are lower people can afford to pay more. The interesting bit will be when interest rates rise again and those who haven't budgeted for 8% interest payments get stung. Property price increases will slow down in my opinion. 

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