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David Hargreaves has a look at the forthcoming GDP figures - the last major economic data release for the year. As far as GDP goes - resilience is the word

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David Hargreaves has a look at the forthcoming GDP figures - the last major economic data release for the year. As far as GDP goes - resilience is the word
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It was the Reserve Bank’s mega Christmas ‘present’ to us last year.

In the November 2022 review of the Official Cash Rate, the last for the year, RBNZ Governor Adrian Orr and friends opened up a can of whoop-ass on us with a 75 basis point hike (a record for a hike) to the OCR and the ‘promise’ of a recession in 2023. Ho, ho, ho.

If that wasn’t enough (it was), the Guv’nor then told Parliament’s Finance and Expenditure select committee that the RBNZ was deliberately engineering a recession. Okay, we get it.

The context was inflation. It had broken down the door and crashed into our houses with a 32-year annual high of 7.3% in the June 2022 quarter. That was one thing, but having entered our houses in such an uncouth way, the inflation beastie was subsequently looking to take its shoes off and get comfortable. The epitome of the unwelcome guest. The September quarter 2022 annual inflation rate dropped only a little - and by much less than expected - to 7.2%.

So, the RBNZ was, by the time of that November OCR review, feeling a bit pressed; a bit behind the 8-ball. And it hit us with the ‘recession-aim’, pre-Christmas, extravaganza.

In its November 2022 Monetary Policy Statement the RBNZ forecast that GDP would keep growing in the December 2022 and March 2023 quarters, but that it would then shrink by 0.5% in the June 2023 quarter, and follow this up with declines in the next three quarters of 0.3%, 0.1% and 0.1%.

The generally accepted ‘technical’ definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters in which an economy goes backwards. The RBNZ was forecasting four consecutive quarters. And this would have kept us technically (though only just) in recession till the June 2024 quarter - and the forecast for the June ’24 quarter was not flash either, at 0.0%, followed by 0.0% in September ‘24 and, hallelujah, 0.2% in growth in December ‘24.

For just a moment in the first half of this year it looked like we had even gone off ‘early’ with this recession thing. The December 2022 quarter saw a surprise 0.6% fall (though that did follow a very surprisingly large growth of 1.7% in the September 2022 quarter). Then that December quarter drop was followed by another fall - by a whole 0.1% - in the March quarter. Bingo! Recession!

Except it wasn’t. There was a recount. When Stats NZ released the June quarter figures it revised the March quarter figure up, to 0.0%. NO recession! The economy lives. The June quarter figure itself was a relatively healthy 0.9% as we experienced something of a bounce back from the disruptions of the adverse weather events in January and February.

Our economy has refused to follow the script.

And so, to the September 2023 quarter, the results for which will be released by Stats NZ on Thursday December 14.

Ahead of these we had the RBNZ’s November 2023 OCR review. The RBNZ is now no longer forecasting recession - though it is fair to say it’s not expecting the economy to jump out of its skin in the next few quarters either.

What the RBNZ is now forecasting is the coveted ‘soft landing’. The RBNZ is indicating that it can still hit its inflation targets without the economy slowing so drastically it goes backwards. It’s the so-called ‘Goldilocks’ scenario, with the economy being neither too hot (to rile up inflation) nor too cold (to send us off the cliff).

For the record, the RBNZ thinks the GDP figures to be released in the coming week will show the economy to have grown by 0.3%, in the September 2023 quarter. The RBNZ then forecasts that GDP will register a flat 0.0% for the December quarter, 0.1% growth in the March ’24 quarter and then rather more rosy-cheeked growth of 0.5% in each of June ‘24, September ‘24 and December ‘24.

I didn’t have any economists’ forecasts in front of me at the time of writing this as there was a flurry of ‘partial’ GDP data still to be released late in the week. And economists naturally wanted to digest these before putting the finishing touches to their forecasts. But early indications from the major bank economists were of quite a range of views for the September 2023 quarter outcome of between -0.1% and 0.6%.

In terms of some of the ‘partial’ information already released...well, the September quarter retail trade figures were roughly unchanged on a seasonally-adjusted basis when compared with the June quarter - which was a positive surprise for the market.

Our goods terms of trade - the ratio of export prices to import prices - fell 0.6% in the quarter - which was also somewhat better than expectations.

However, the September quarter building work put in place figures were something of a downside surprise, with overall figures down a seasonally adjusted 2.4%, while residential was down 0.6% and non-residential down a particularly surprising 5.9%.

Some ‘overs and unders’ there then in terms of prior expectations. Probably at this point I would suspect the RBNZ’s feeling reasonably happy with its +0.3% pick. And in truth the RBNZ’s been as close as any party I’m aware of in picking the more recent major data outcomes. Arguably, of course, you would want it to be since it is the one with the hand on the interest rates lever!

Will these GDP figures ‘matter’ to the RBNZ?

Well, really only if there’s a major upside surprise. If the economy were to show a wholly unexpected growth spurt the RBNZ would see this and the heat generated by such a growth spurt as a potential risk to its inflation targeting.

In its November OCR review the RBNZ made reasonably clear it’s getting short on patience with the (slow) speed at which inflation is coming down. Remember, the headline rate, having hit that peak of 7.3% as long ago as June 2022, had only gradually made its way back down to 5.6% as of the September quarter. Inflation has now been outside of the targeted range of 1% to 3% for two-and-a-half years.

In its latest set of forecasts in the November Monetary Policy Statement, the RBNZ is still shooting to get inflation back under 3% by the September quarter 2024. It has no room for setbacks. Which means any nasty surprises with the inflation figures from here could well be met by another OCR hike.

Assuming the coming week’s GDP figures do turn out somewhat as the RBNZ expects, then it will feel a little more comfort and be able to perhaps relax a little going into the summer break.

But that relaxation won’t last for all that long as the December quarter inflation figures are set to be released on January 24, 2024. That’s huge. Less huge, but significant, are the labour market figures to be released on February 7. And then we are on to the first RBNZ OCR review of 2024 on February 28.

What the RBNZ does or does not do at that review will be very much determined by how the significant economic data turn out between now and then.

This coming week’s GDP data can therefore on one level be seen as not so much the last key data release of this year, but really the first key influence on what might happen next year. Next year is crunch time for the economy, inflation and the RBNZ.

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39 Comments

It's been a bad few years trying to interpret the world via lines on a graph, for sure.

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Per capita recession 

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Not even. We seem to be at a stage where financial prosperity or decline is fractured throughout the economy.

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If the housing market goes into recovery mode, then there's a good chance that any economy-wide recession will be shallow and short-lived....... The so-called "wealth effect" that economists talk about can be pretty potent in NZ - even with high interest rates.

Notably also, the labour market remains pretty tight, despite higher immigration. Even seasonal labour is hard to find - especially with all the young people heading abroad for the obligatory OE, post-Covid.

TTP

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Can I fix that last sentence for ya?

... especially with all the young rich people heading abroad for the obligatory OE ...

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Given that in real terms and per capita we have just taken a massive dive it shows the issues with the measurement.

Our standard of living has/is taken a massive hit and it’s likely to continue and be permanent.

If the general IQ of the population was higher we would all be protesting it. Instead many people just don’t understand what is going on.

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Protesting is usually the result of discontent or anger, not intellect.

You can recognize the show doesn't match the script and adjust your views and actions accordingly.

What are we protesting anyway, that the system doesn't give us continual, reliable and automatic improvements to our quality of life?

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1% seem to be increasing their wealth..middle income being hollowed out? How did women get the vote...baking cakes?

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Wouldn't say it's broken, more reaching a stall due to growth limits and a global labour force that's many multiples greater than it was even 30-40 years ago.

Got many more positive outcomes of angry mobs forcing change?

I got plenty of negative ones for you.

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You should move to China Painter..you might be happier there..?

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Lived a lot of places, still prefer NZ.

The Chinese Communist revolution was a dismal failure for the populace, right about until they just adopted the market system most everyone else had been using for decades.

Ditto basically every other time people got frustrated enough at the system to overthrow it. It's a lot harder to create a functional society than break one.

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You should move to China Painter..you might be happier there..?

But how about the wellbeing of the Chinese?

TTP

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The Chinese are an inscrutable people. However, in this instance, they would just (as we should) ignore the drivel.

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- Complains about making generalisations

- Makes a generalisation after 5 minutes

Amazing stuff, getfeeling. 

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re ... "Protesting is usually the result of discontent or anger, not intellect."

Man alive!

By the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I've never heard, nor read, a person like pa1nter who can make continuous sweeping generalisations and get away with it. Honestly, what drivel.

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Like that time you said everyone else is a dumb dumb for not believing a CGT would curb house prices, despite not providing a shred of evidence?

You could always debate points. Intellect usually involves addressing an issue and forming a resolution. A bunch of really smart people would address their issues via the democratic process instead of chanting and shouting.

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Both your points - per Capita GDP and real (inflation adjusted) get to the heart of the matter.

Another limitation of using GDP figures is that nz GDP is measured in nzd, which is fairly irrelevant apart from home grown goods like food. If you were to look at nz GDP figures in more important global trading currencies like the euro or usd, it's deeply negative

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IMO there will be rate cuts everywhere in 24Q1 because of issues in the global "financial plumbing". Reports of problems in China and US have begun. 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/something-strange-is-happening-in-the… 

https://www.wsj.com/finance/pressure-is-building-in-chinas-financial-pl…

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Of course he would say that!

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The question of the new respiratory illness, mycoplasma pneumonia apparently, spreading from the Nth of China must be casting more than a large shadow over the nation generally this winter. If it should be more than that and is not contained, hard to imagine the consequences, apropos society and the economy, if the draconian lockdown regime re-emerges.

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There's some good recent histories of the lockdown era. I do feel a bit hoodwinked. Remember all the talk of science and evidence, even when lockdowns had never been studied or even really tried. 

See The Big Fail, how our supply chains failed when we most needed them.

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That's because the market favours efficiency over resilience.

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Quarter 2 or 3 for me. I think Central Banks will need to see things getting pretty bad in a sustained way before they start the cuts.

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David, I feel that "population" deserves a mention when discussing GDP.

With a population increase in NZ of over 2% in 2023, if we're producing no more than the previous year, we're effectively going backwards!

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Smells like a recession, feels like a recession. Ask anyone in domestic construction or retail. They’ll likely be down 15%

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It's all kind of split.

House building companies (so your GJs and Jennians) have order books down way more than 15% going forward. Independent house builders can be full or over subscribed.

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The group home builders can offer fixed pricing. The smaller guys struggle to.

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They're also usually less efficient, pretty sub-par from a quality perspective, and are trying to sell you a land and house package. That's not to say you can't get a bad independent builder, but it's harder to find a consistently good group home builder.

You can definitely have an independent builder give you a fixed price and they'll stick to it. I know of three that are cheaper than the group homes. But they'll be dictating the nature of the build.

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What do you mean by dictating the nature of the build? Design and materials?

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Mostly method, but also design, and usually materials.

An experienced tradesperson is going to have the experience to know how to get the best result in an efficient way. The more there's an external input into how to do things otherwise, the more the project is heading from a known financial quantity, to something far less defineable.

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something far less defineable

Do you ever watch the Grand Designs NZ episodes. I can guess what your answer is... "No, it's too predictable"

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I don't, but I've worked on quite a lot of large bespoke architectural properties. Almost impossible to price as everything's a one-off, and the owner/architect ends up feeling their way through the job as it's being conducted. I make a point to steer clear of them, it's basically a case of "just keep paying me money until you tell me to stop".

Many builders and contractors view them to be the pinnacle of residential construction, given the status and chance to get in a magazine, but financially they're a dead duck. 

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Before the RBNZ gets too smug, and the commentariat with it, perhaps we should consider the cash buffers people built up during covid ... And when those cash buffers are exhausted - will we see a delayed effect?

By golly ... What if I'm right? Perhaps the recession was just delayed?

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Recession was more of a economists consensus forecast than the view of your reader: https://www.interest.co.nz/personal-finance/118979/2022-was-weird-year-…

 

Recessions are relatively rare of course so this was probably a wasted opportunity by #TeamEconomist to set aside the goats intestines and have a genuine think about the economic trajectory.

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With local consumers and businesses pulling back, GDP will be taking a hit.

But what of export receipts? e.g. dairy, meat, logs, IT, tourism, etc.

If they are going okay, or up, we may / will see GDP hang on to positive territory.

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The GDP number is pointless BS when you factor in the population rise and inflation. What cost you $1.00 in 2020 now costs you $1.20. That's reality. The unemployment rate as per the household labour force survey is BS. The climbing underutilisation rate is the one to watch. The number of people in casualised employment that are having their hours cut. See above. Population rise causes wage suppression and more competition for lower skilled part time work. 

Not to mention that the hefty mortgage  interest rate rises are still making their way to the surface of the economy. I suspect they will breach like a Humpback Whale in a calm sea and it will surprise everyone.

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No mention of immigration that I saw. Given the rate of population increase, the per Capita figures must look pretty bad. And isn't 0 growth nominal, where as in real terms it's about -5%?

The economy is a difficult turd to polish, but you've done a passable job

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