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Bernard's Top 10: QE 4?; China's new US$101 bln lending spree; Peak globalisation?; Is Mr Market right about China; Clarke and Dawe; John Oliver

Bernard's Top 10: QE 4?; China's new US$101 bln lending spree; Peak globalisation?; Is Mr Market right about China; Clarke and Dawe; John Oliver

Here's my Top 10 items from around the Internet over the last week or so. As always, we welcome your additions in the comments below or via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz

See all previous Top 10s here.

My must reads are #4 on China.

1, Time for QE 4? - It didn't take long for investors and economists to start calling on the US Federal Reserve to delay its long-hoped-for and long-feared increase in interest rates.

As recently as a month or so ago most expected it would be in September. Now less than a quarter do.

But there are also a few saying the Fed needs to go back to the old Quantitative Easing or money printing machine.

Larry Summers, who has been banging on about secular stagnation for ages, has suggested it.

And so has Ray Dalio, who is widely admired as a very big and canny hedge fund investor.

Here's Dalio's view:

Dalio points out that since 1981, every cyclical peak and cyclical low in interest rates were lower than previous points until short-term interest rates eventually fell to 0%, which prevented a further rate cut. In response, central banks had to print more money and buy bonds.

“That’s where we find ourselves now,” he said. “Interest rates around the world are at or near 0%, spreads are relatively narrow (because asset prices have been pushed up) and debt levels are high. As a result, the ability of central banks to ease is limited, at a time when the risks are more on the downside than the upside and most people have a dangerous long bias. Said differently, the risks of the world being at or near the end of its long-term debt cycle are significant.”

2. The end of the debt super cycle - Dalio speaks at length here in this LinkedIn post about his theory of the economy and the structural forces creating deflation.

There's that word again. Although I also wonder what he is long or short in.

While we don't know if we have just passed the key turning point, we think that it should now be apparent that the risks of deflationary contractions are increasing relative to the risks of inflationary expansion because of these secular forces.  These long-term debt cycle forces are clearly having big effects on China, oil producers, and emerging countries which are overly indebted in dollars and holding a huge amount of dollar assets—at the same time as the world is holding large leveraged long positions.

While, in our opinion, the Fed has over-emphasized the importance of the "cyclical" (i.e., the short-term debt/business cycle) and underweighted the importance of the "secular" (i.e., the long-term debt/supercycle), they will react to what happens.  Our risk is that they could be so committed to their highly advertised tightening path that it will be difficult for them to change to a significantly easier path if that should be required.

3. Maybe it is real - John Cassidy at the New Yorker takes a good look at the latest stock market slump and concludes a correction was due and there are some fundamentals driving the latest falls. He makes some good points about Brazil and Russia, which hardly anyone is talking about.

For a quite a while now, analysts who take seriously such valuation ratios as the price-to-earnings ratio and Tobin’s “q” ratio (which measures the price of investment assets relative to their replacement cost) have been warning about a crack in the market. Back in February, Andrew Smithers, a London-based analyst, warned that the U.S. market was trading seventy per cent above its fair value. In May, Bob Shiller, a well-known economist who teaches at Yale, said that there was a ”bubble element“ to the valuations present in the market.

As always, the issue is timing. Raging bull markets usually go on for longer than skeptics (such as myself) predict that they will, and they rarely end of their own accord. Sometimes, the precipitating event is the prospect or reality of the Federal Reserve deciding to raise interest rates. (That’s what happened in 1987 and 2000.) On other occasions, it takes some sort of shock, such as the collapse of Lehman Brothers, to set things off.

On this occasion, there was a surfeit of proximate causes. For one thing, the era of zero-per-cent interest rates and ultra-cheap money appears to be coming to an end. With G.D.P. growth picking up a bit after another slow start to the year, Wall Street expects the Fed to start raising rates either next month or in December. Then there is what’s happening in the developing world. It’s not just that the Chinese economy is slowing down and prompting the government in Beijing to take countervailing measures, such as trying (and so far failing) to prevent a stock-market bubble from bursting. Brazil is in terrible shape and may be headed for a financial crisis. The Russian economy, hit by sanctions and a collapsing oil price, is also in a slump. Of the original BRIC countries, only India looks to be in good shape.

4. Is Mr Market right about China? - Martin Wolf asks rightly at the FT if we should take any notice of the Chinese Stock Market slump or the Renminbi depreciation as any indicators of underlying economic problems in China, particualrly given both markets are so skewed and 'fixed' by China's Government.

He also rightly concludes that China's attempts to arrest these falls shows how worried the Government itself is.

Events in the Chinese market are of wider significance in two related ways. One is that the Chinese authorities decided to stake substantial resources and even their political authority on their (unsurprisingly unsuccessful) effort to stop the bubble’s collapse. The other is that they must have been driven to do so by concern over the economy. If they are worried enough to bet on such a forlorn hope, the rest of us should worry, too.

Nor is this the only way in which the behaviour of the Chinese authorities gives reason for concern. The other was the decision to devalue the renminbi on August 11. In itself this, too, is an unimportant event, with a cumulative devaluation against the US dollar of just 2.8 per cent so far. But it has significant implications. The Chinese authorities want room to slash interest rates, as happened this Tuesday. Again, that underlines their concerns about the health of the economy. Another possible implication is that Beijing might seek a revival of export-led growth. I find this hard to believe, since the global consequences would be devastating. But it is reasonable at least to worry about this destabilising possibility. A last possible implication is that the Chinese authorities are preparing to tolerate capital flight. If so, the US would be hoist by its own petard. Washington has sought capital account liberalisation by China. It might then have to tolerate a destabilising short-term consequence: a weakening renminbi.

5.  From investment to consumption? - Wolf also looks at the more important issue of whether China is successfully transitioning from investment and infrastructure spending to consumption and services. This is crucial for New Zealand. We want more of the latter than the former.

Suppose something like this were true. According to official figures, gross fixed investment was 44 per cent of gross domestic product in 2014. Figures for investment are more likely to be correct than those for GDP. But does it make economic sense for an economy to invest 44 per cent of GDP and yet grow at only 5 per cent? No. These data suggest ultra-low, if not, negative marginal returns. If so, investment could fall sharply. That might not lower potential growth, provided wasteful investment were cut first. But it would cause a collapse in demand. Everything the Chinese authorities have been doing suggests they are worried about just that.

This worry about deficient aggregate demand is not new. It has been a big concern ever since the west’s financial crisis, which devastated demand for China’s exports. This is why China then embarked on its own credit-fuelled investment boom. Remarkably (and worryingly), the share of investment in GDP rose just as the growth of potential output declined. That was not a sustainable combination in the longer term.

 6. Back to that global savings glut - Wolf goes on to make some ominous comments about China's ability to achieve three things at once.

This now leaves the Chinese authorities with three huge economic headaches. The first is cleaning up the legacy of past financial excesses while avoiding a financial crisis. The second is reshaping the economy, so that it is more dependent on private and public consumption and less dependent on extraordinarily high levels of investment. The third is achieving all that while sustaining dynamic growth of aggregate demand.

Recent events matter because they suggest the Chinese authorities have not yet worked out a way of pulling this triple combination off. Worse, the expedients they have tried over the past seven years have made the predicament even worse. Maybe, Mr Market has grasped how difficult this is going to be and so how destabilising some of the options the Chinese might choose actually are. These include devaluation, ultra-low interest rates and even quantitative easing. If this is the case, the market turmoil might not be foolish. The global savings glut can get worse. That would affect everybody.

7. China's overnight 'shock and awe' - Ambrose Evans Pritchard has a look at last night's RRR cut in China, which frees up banks there to pump another US$101 billion of loans into the economy. You'd have to wonder how committed China is to rebalancing away from infrastructure if it does this sort of thing.

Wei Yao from Societe Generale said the RRR cut was “absolutely necessary” to stop liquidity drying up and to reverse the passive tightening over recent weeks caused by capital outflows.

It may not be enough to add any net stimulus to the economy. “Liquidity conditions are still under immense pressure,” she said.

The PBOC has intervened heavily on the exchange markets to defend the yuan, drawing down reserves at a blistering pace. The unwanted side-effect is to tighten monetary policy. It is a textbook case of why it can be so difficult for a country to deploy foreign reserves – however large on paper - in a recessionary downturn.

The great unknown is exactly how much money has been leaving the country since the PBOC stunned markets by ditching its dollar exchange peg on August 11, and in doing so set off a global crash.

8. Has globalisation peaked? - The FT reports figures from the World Trade Monitor are causing some people to wonder if global trade has peaked.

World trade recorded its biggest contraction since the financial crisis in the first half of this year, according to figures that will fuel a debate over whether globalisation has peaked.

The volume of global trade fell 0.5 per cent in the three months to June compared with the first quarter, the Netherlands Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis, keepers of the World Trade Monitor, said on Tuesday.


Those numbers built on what has been a grim pattern for global trade in recent years and the unwinding of a decades-old rule that saw trade grow at twice the rate of the global economy as a result of what some have called hyperglobalisation.

In the three months to June, global trade grew just 1.1 per cent from the same quarter of 2014, according to the new Dutch figures. The International Monetary Fund expects the global economy to grow 3.5 per cent this year.


Much of this year’s slowdown in global trade has been due to a halting recovery in Europe as well as a slowing economy in China, Mr Koopman said.

The global economy’s “growth engine” had been operating as if it had a mechanical fault for some time with “good growth in some countries offset by weak growth in others”.

But there is also clearly a structural shift happening in the global economy, he said, and that means slowing global trade is likely to endure for some time.

9. Totally John Oliver because he's usually funny.

10. Totally Clarke and Dawe on Quantitative Easing. For old time's sake.

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16 Comments

Regarding no 1, all the earlier QEs have only helped banks, investment and commercial to increase their revenue, profits and bonuses. They seem to be addicted to all that free money and any small chance, they ask for more such lollies. Which is the larger TBTF, China or the US Banks ? Throw in the coming Election Year in the US, the Banks will certainly have their way again, scaremongering, et al. They have big lobbies working for them.

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" They have big lobbies working for them." And soon coming to us via the TPP.

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Dalio makes the most rational and powerful reasoning for dismantling all Central Banks.....

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Then its rubbish, before we had CBs our financial system was far less stable.

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Right there. Independent CBs, with no revolving door syndromes and no political and money lobbying in action.

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SmoKey, then you are reading something into his paper that I cannot see. Rather, he seems to be saying that there are relatively short term- 8 years or so- business cycles where RB's reduce for the most part, and then tighten for a shorter time, interest rates. He also talks of a super cycle, where the short term cycles have ever reducing interest rate tops and bottoms, until the cycle gets down to zero- where we are close to now. He seems to be expecting a Fed tightening cycle of as little as 50 basis points, which although relatively small, he expects to cause considerable stress. He then expects the only way out of the super cycle is massive QE. Although unstated, it seems to me this final QE needs to be of the helicopter variety, as he says the only way out of the super cycle is for massive deleveraging to take place. Recent QE merely adds to theoretical government debt while easing private debt. To get out of the supercycle, a significant portion of all these debts need to be paid back.
Time will tell if he's right, and whether the Fed agrees with him.

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The whole QE thing started by Helicopter Ben and continued since has vitiated the macro economic and financial scene for the past few years. Cycles have no meaning now, because things are not that easily predictable or manageable. Everything and Every one is focussed on stopping the next crash, but events are overtaking all thinking and actions.
Massive debt write off and haircuts will once again put the banks and governments at the cliff edge, and there is no stomach for some falling off the cliff.
Everything is short term nowadays.
There can be no final QE, it seems, only continuous QE, triggered by one event or the other.

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Sorry wrong reply

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So what you are saying is that the next round of QE needs to be around getting rid of private debt? Does that then mean that if Governments buy into it, that those with mortgages, or borrowings that get called in can expect some form of assistance to prevent some form of collapse? Does this mean that people who have been sensible and are debt free, with savings will miss out while those who splashed out on borrowings that were marginally affordable or not at all, will benefit? This seems to be another form of cycle where we reward greed?

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I don't imagine lunch will be quite that free. A key thing to remember (and it seems to me most people forget) is that, discounting the current account for a moment, government deficits equal private surpluses and vice versa. So for private deleveraging to take place the governments of the world will have to run deficits. They can spend these deficits on massive infrastructure, or on tax cuts. Remembering back to the 1930s, the last time Dalio's super cycle had to be unwound, most of the spending was on infrastructure, and sadly, on military buildups. The governments of the day effectively printed the money and paid for this spending, without creating long term debts for themselves. That created employment and private surpluses that cleared a number of debts over time. To the extent there is inflation, the debts are cleared more quickly.
Now some of the global QE has been enacted in this way the last few years, although governments have pretended otherwise. The US government has printed trillions and had trillion dollar deficits. They will never pay themselves these back, although they count as a loan from the Fed to the government.
Similarly the BOE has loaned the British government £350 billion that will never be repaid. The Japanese government runs huge deficits, which its population happily accepts as surpluses to them.
For NZ, it always seems a shame to me that we do not play in any way, as we lose free market share in not doing so, but that is an aside.
Our options seem to be the infrastructure spend- which there is plenty to do; or tax cuts. Assuming Dalio is correct, and his logic makes sense to me, then likely sometime in the next year or so, the world's central bankers will or at least should head down this path. NZ should then follow suit.
In unusual defence of Bill English, it seems to me he has worked it out, and his recent statements are preparing us for the move. The one step he may not have mentally taken is the printing bit. NZ could borrow money printed by other governments, as we have in the first 8 years of the Nats' time. Doing so raises the exchange rate, gets the country further in debt, and will not solve the problem for NZ. So we would be best to do our share of printing when things hit the fan. Time will tell.

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I think Bill English has an unusually good grasp of the subject, but more from having his hand on the tiller during a storm than from the conflicting and perverse advise he gets.

Personally I think trying to run a surplus, or even balance the budget, when the economy is not overheating is a very bad idea. The time to run a surplus is when inflation is above target.

If you try to run a surplus when inflation is low you have the perverse effect of pushing up the exchange rate, making business unprofitable, and forcing the RBNZ to keep interest rates too low, leading surprise, surprise, to house price inflation. Duh. Bill has repeated Michael's mistake.

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Economically I agree with you on the surpluses. However it strikes me that the ppl who lend money (the financial markets) are lets say, perverse in their demands for austerity and right wing economics etc due to their political outlook. This means as a borrower you have to dance to their tune or it gets unpleasant.

I personally dont think BE has much of a clue but maybe more than JK who I really dont think has, then I dont think any pollie does or is admitting to it anyway. I mean they cant all be this blind, does BE see what is going to hit us? not sure I think not or its a lot of denial.

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There is of course a huge difference between tax cuts which are ongoing and crippling and one off builds which are not. In NZ's case unlike say Japan we have so many builds to replace aging infrastructure like schools that bridges to no where isnt or should not be on the menu. I also do not see the need to print or QE except as a default when the housing market collapses and if the Govn is forced to step in.

When the 1929 of today begins there will I think be printing en mass, but I am fairly sure it will not matter a bit. Nz is fortunate that our Govn debt is reasonable the only Q is can the Govn keep it that way when private debt starts to default. This maybe the one saving grace of National, I suspect they are more likely to take a hard line than labour.

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if they don't fix, or at least admit to the problem, no amount of responding to the symptoms will be a solution

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QE 4?

Remind me , what's the urban dictionary definition of insanity again ?

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Something along the lines of pressing the "RAND" button on a calculator and hoping for a different result every time or was it hoping to get a different GUID from https://www.guidgenerator.com/ every day?
Someone might even have suggested stomping every decade and expecting a different amount of force to be exerted each time...

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