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David Hargreaves reckons we are unlikely to see major changes in interest rates over the next 12 months, but life won't be dull

David Hargreaves reckons we are unlikely to see major changes in interest rates over the next 12 months, but life won't be dull

By David Hargreaves

New Zealand will be treated to something of a rarity next week.

The Reserve Bank's call on interest rates to be made on Thursday December 10 is very much 'live' - by which I mean it's by no means clear ahead of time what the verdict will be.

Market pricing of wholesale interest rates has suggested it's a 50/50 call whether the Official Cash Rate will be cut by quarter of a percent, or left alone at the current 2.75%. Perhaps there's just slightly more of a feeling that there'll be no change.

The last time we had such an in-the-balance decision was in the lead-up to June's decision at which point the RBNZ made the first of what became three consecutive cuts to rates. And before June you had to go back about a year to the previous last time when we went into a rates decision week really not being sure which way the RBNZ would call it.

For what it's worth, I'm picking that rates will be unchanged next week - though if I tell you that I also picked no change in June and got that one wrong, you might say my opinion's not worth that much! But we try.

Anyway, I still think the RBNZ's looking to take its cue from the US Federal Reserve. And I think that providing the US employment figures out this weekend don't show some sort of nasty reverse in the past month, then the Fed will make its long awaited interest rate hike on December 17 our time.

If the RBNZ is, after release of the US employment figures, reasonably convinced the Fed will hike rates then it is to be imagined our central bank would feel reasonably comfy with maintaining its 'watch and wait' stance articulated in the last rates review on October 29. That's the theory anyway...

But difficult as it may be to decide which way the RBNZ's going to move on rates next week, it actually starts to look even harder to work out what will happen next year. Which way will rates move next, and when?

According to the RBNZ's September Monetary Policy Statement projections, the central bank sees one more interest rate cut (to 2.5%) yet, but it has been pretty coy about when that might be - basically any time between now and the middle of next year. But what then? Do we go into a period simply of no movement, or might we see as economists at two of the major banks are suggesting, the need for further reductions in rates as 2016 goes on?

Waiting on rates

I suspect quite a few homeowners are starting to take a bit of a wait-and-see approach.

From my perspective, as one who is all in favour of this country improving standards of financial literacy (and the finance company sector meltdown in 2007-10 showed how far we had to go), I find it gratifying to see how savvy the country's mortgage holders appear to now be about getting themselves the best deal on interest rates.

The Reserve Bank compiles monthly figures outlining who owes what on mortgages, over what terms and at what interest rates. 

After the Global Financial Crisis in 2008 mortgage holders started clambering out of fixed rate mortgages and into floating, with far more mortgages ending up floating than fixed. This trend then started to reverse in 2012 and by mid-2013 there were again more fixed than floating mortgages. As at October 2015 just over 75% of mortgages were at fixed rates.

But interestingly, within the fixed rate statistics there's been some significant moves in recent months as people have clearly reacted to the change in direction from the RBNZ, from an on-hold bias after moving the OCR up last year to 3.5% from 2.5% back to an easing bias from June this year.

As of January some 60% of fixed rate mortgages were for terms in excess of a year (compared with just 44.5% in January 2014). By May (just before the RBNZ started cutting rates again) some 62.5% of fixed rate mortgages were for terms in excess of a year. However, as of October that figure had dropped very swiftly to just 55.8%. Over the same period the proportion of fixed mortgages for under a year swelled from 37.5% (in May) to 44.2% (October).

This would suggest to me that canny customers, while keen to lock in fixed rates that are lower than floating rates, are also keen to see what direction interest rates take in the next 12 months before committing themselves to somewhat longer terms. It is worth noting though that though still small, the amounts of money committed on terms of greater than four years have continued to increase throughout the year and the $4.5 billion worth of mortgages on such terms is more than double the amount on such terms as of January. This would suggest that some people, whatever happens to rates in the next 12 months, have found a longer term deal and a sense of certainty that suits them.

The year ahead?

Which is all great. But what of the next 12 months?

At the moment the presumption is that our Reserve Bank intends just one more rate cut (and it might not do that if it feels it doesn't need to). If that were to be the case interest rates might have gone as low as they are going to here.

But of course the RBNZ's made what many economists are regarding as some pretty heroic assumptions about the impact of the lower dollar on inflation in the first half of next year. The key point on such assumptions is the ability of those importing goods and services at higher prices to then pass-on those increases costs to the end user.

The world has changed. The consumer's never had greater flexibility about how they buy things. The blissfully simple old philosophy of "it cost me 20% more to buy these so it will cost the customers 20% more" is not so blissfully simple any more. It is only one example, but I was interested in the comments of large retailer Hallenstein Glasson in a trading update last week, when it said: "The impact of a weaker New Zealand and Australian dollar is beginning to exert margin pressure and the ability to raise prices to compensate is limited."

The Reserve Bank is under pressure to deliver on its 2% inflation target and if it doesn't by the middle of the next year then I suspect we may well see some movement from the Government. Whether, as the likes of the NZIER have been suggesting this week, it is time to look at new targets for monetary policy is likely to become a hot topic of conversation.

Home pressures

That's the pressures at home. The other key factor in determining what happens with interest rates will be offshore developments. At the moment Europe and the US are heading in different directions it seems, one down, one up. Which direction will win out? For all the current intentions being displayed in the US, I still have a nagging feeling that it too might eventually be undermined by the simple lack of inflation particularly if commodities (and oil as ever would be key) don't pick up meaningfully. I still think there's a reasonable chance the Fed's attempts to 'normalise' interest rates may (for the next 12 months anyway) begin and end with a December rate rise. One and done, as they say.

So, this probably all leaves our Reserve Bank looking like the meat in a global sandwich. I doubt it is going to hit its inflation targets next year. The question then will be what anybody wants to do about that. If the Government's restlessness over the failure so far of the RBNZ to get within cooee of the inflation targets translates into a desire for quick action then, independent or not, we may see the RBNZ pressured into lowering rates further. Or maybe the rules will be changed and inflation will cease to be the be-all-and-end-all of monetary policy.

It all seems to stack up for a very turbulent 12 months ahead - and yet at the end of which interest rates are likely to be largely the same as they are now. 

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21 Comments

David,
A reasonable analysis in my view. Dropping next week against a Fed tightening may internationally be considered poking the bear, and so I assume Mr Wheeler will hold. Inflation still doesn't look likely, as you note, although as it happens I am not convinced of a direct link between interest rates and consumer inflation in any case, even if they clearly affect asset prices.
I've read that "One and done" commonly refers to 1%, being four quarters of 25bps, but we will see. I suspect Yellen will want to be seen to be more bold than just one 25bps rise.
One separate variable that may be influential is the oil price.
There are two interesting articles related to Saudi Arabia in today's Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/120279… and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/120295….

It is a troubled place. There is a chance it will cave in and try and help get oil prices back to say ~$70. That would have some bearing on inflation going forward.

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Comments Ive seen is Yellen wants to start rising but its very iffy, so being "bold" just does not gel IMHO, so more like meek, maybe 0.1%.

If the oil price rises and that is a big if as in effect the US shale players will pump more and more forcing Saudi to pump less and less what has Saudi got to gain? Seems everyone expects Saudi to take the pain and cost while everyone else pumps as much as they want making a big profit. On the other hand Saudi keeping pumping clearly says they intend to spread the pain around, cant blame them.

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i can not see any reason to cut the OCR below 2% if we went below that it would say a lot about our economy.
which at the moment is built on the back of immigration, bringing in students and selling houses to each other not very substainable but seems this governement and the last had no real ideas for growing the export sector

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true but at the moment we are 2.75% and inflation is DOA.

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NZs OCR is high at 2.75%
Australia OCR is 2.0

INTEREST RATES

Country Central Bank Key Interest Rate Next Meeting Last Change Current Rate, %
USA FED
(Federal Reserve) Federal Funds Rate 16.12.2015 16.12.2008 0.25%
Eurozone ECB
(European Central Bank) Refinancing Tender 03.12.2015 04.09.2014 0.05%
UK BOE
(Bank of England) Bank Rate 10.12.2015 05.03.2009 0.50%
Japan BOJ
(Bank of Japan) Overnight Call Rate 18.12.2015 19.12.2008 0.10%
Canada BOC
(Bank of Canada) O/N Lending Rate 02.12.2015 15.07.2015 0.50%
Switzerland SNB
(Swiss National Bank) 3 Month Libor Rate 10.12.2015 15.01.2015 -0.75%
Sweden Riksbank
(Sweden Central Bank) Repo Rate 15.12.2015 02.07.2015 -0.35%
Australia RBA
(Reserve Bank of Australia) Cash Rate 01.12.2015 05.05.2015 2.00%
New Zealand RBNZ (Reserve Bank of New Zealand) Official Cash Rate 09.12.2015 10.09.2015 2.75%
Norway Norges Bank
(The Norwegian Central Bank) .75

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I know that in theory a low interest rate should be stimulatory, but where is the evidence that it is working??; just seems to have artificially increased property and shares;surely something else is in order .
I don't know how you get rich old peoples money to be invested, with risk, in new business ventures needed to create wealth.

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Well consider its NET as opposed to relative. So if we had not dropped rates we would be in a severe recession. ie instead of +0.3% we could have had -2%

Which is why I have been saying we need a 2% OCR to get to 2% CPI, but even then that might not work.

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Proof please- counterfactual is without evidence.

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To get " rich old people's money to be invested with risk" , one would have to remove that part of their brain that stores recall of 1929, 1987, ostrich farming, and other ventures. Many of us were regaled with the advice to "put some away for a rainy day". Perhaps that is why $200 billion is sitting in cash reserves. (I think that was the amount on a thread here).

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Good point
If you have enough for retirement, you don't want to invest in new, possibly risky stuff, (which could involve starting up a new business yourself, not necessarily an ostrich farm), so there is a strong incentive to leave it in the bank; but if we all do that, to the tune of 200bill, this artificially inflates house prices, and if we leave it in shares, shares become overvalued.Both outcomes can lead to financial instability and low wealth creation, and increase the chances of an OBR event , meaning you won't get your money back from the ASB either.
So there appears to be misallocation of capital with bad consequences more likely.I don't pretend to have the answer...so I have got 20% in property, 20% shares, 50% bank 10% own business and 90% uncertainty!!

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I have the same portfolio :) kiwichas !

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What makes NZ think it is immune from the world and other countries economies.
Can high immigration, high international student numbers, tourism, open door foreign property buying, internal house buying/investment keep our interest rates high and economy propped up?

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Theory would have it that interest rates reflect the incentive reqjuired for people to save - that is defer spending. Internationally the rate is clearly very low and savings are high. The trouble is in NZ the rate has to be higher to get people to save (given the less risky environment welfare state etc). But having a higher local interest rates only results in NZ ducking in other people savings. To stop this the real choice is to move to international interest rates. Until we do so exporters are basically up against it. The RBNZ is clearly believing that consumption out of overseas borrowing will continue to support the economy. This is crazy stuff. Let us hope the RB cuts interest rates to international levels sooner rather than later.

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Be careful what you wish for. ZIRP/NIRP has not done what it was supposed to, other than fund excess world wide capacity, which has forced down the price of products below their ability to service excess corporate capital debts. In response large wholesale banking operations have cut their lending capacity, which in turn is causing the clearing price of commodities and other industrial scale assets to further collapse in value. Good luck with further state sponsored redistribution of bank depositor's wealth, based upon a spurious redefinition of what constitutes inflation.

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It is a good point. As I understand it, entities, and countries, that have borrowed in USD, are already feeling the pinch from the rise in the USD. But given extremely low interest rates, those entities have first off built huge capacity in nearly every industry imaginable, then kicked the can while interest rates are very low. This tide is about to start receding so we will see who is wearing shorts. Some capacity will have to be closed, which in itself will not be a bad thing. Interest rate rises globally just may lift inflation due to supply reductions.

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I think the point is that there is no way NZ can for ever stand against the tide of low interest rates which fundamentally reflects the low levels at which people internationally are willing to save. To do so wil only result in large deficits and increasing indebtedness until such a time that the risk of lending to NZders equates the local with the international interest rates. This level is probably consistent with gross indebtedness locally. See no reason to believe that international interest rates are going to rise much or a long term basis.

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Not save, borrow. So the argument is that a low borrowing cost stimulates growth by making ppl spend and businesses invest. so our economy id debt driven not savings driven.

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I do not agree deploying ZIRP has avoided a recession/depression.

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and if the OCR being too high causes a recession and house price deflation and then triggers an OBR what then?

It isnt spurious at all, its just not how you would like it to look.

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the problem you have is rampant borrowing to invest in one sector investor housing, a government unwilling to tackle it head on but rather kick the can down the.
road.a RB that has two objectives that are conflicting A maintain financial stability and B control inflation
they are putting more emphasis on A because of what happened around the world in 2008
and it is to the downfall of the productive economy.
maybe we need to separate the roles as in Australia and remove the conflict

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RB's "success" at predictions. Great things electronic calendars you can set a reminder for yourself 3 years away.

"3. No worries about unemployment - will be eaten away over the next couple of years and drive the unemployment rate down to 4.9% by 2015 from 7.1% in 2013"

instead, 6% and trending up.

http://www.interest.co.nz/business/62385/bernard-hickey-details-top-10-…

yes they did very well.

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