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Monday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: Rouibini's ten worries; Auckland housing stress; Warren Buffet has an unsatisfactory year; bank leverage matters; 'Fed has failed to do its job'; Dilbert, and more

Monday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: Rouibini's ten worries; Auckland housing stress; Warren Buffet has an unsatisfactory year; bank leverage matters; 'Fed has failed to do its job'; Dilbert, and more
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Here's my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10:00 am today in association with NZ Mint.

Bernard is back tomorrow with his version.

As always, we welcome your additions in the comments below or via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

See all previous Top 10s here.

 

1. Ten QE questions
Most observers regard unconventional monetary policies such as quantitative easing as necessary to jump-start growth in today’s anemic economies.

But questions about the effectiveness and risks of such policies have begun to multiply as well.

Nouriel Roubini has ten potential costs associated with such policies that merit attention. He thinks the time has come to withdraw them. For someone who thought the world was ending and was very critical of the policy responses used to contain the crisis, he certainly seems to have changed his tune. He is suggesting these policies worked, and now it is time to unwind them before unintended consequences arise:

In short, policies are becoming more unconventional, not less, with little clarity about short-term effects, unintended consequences, and long-term impacts.

To be sure, QE and other unconventional monetary policies do have important short-term benefits.

But if such policies remain in place for too long, their side effects could be severe – and the longer-term costs very high.

2. The cost of political correctness
Let's try and look past the pointless angst of who is buying houses in Auckland and focus on the core issue: why it is so hard to find affordable accommodation. The answer is in this chart. For more than a decade we have been building far too few new houses. According to Auckland Council, there were an average of 3 people per household in 2006 (the last Census). Since 2005 we have built 40,770 houses in the Queen City to accommodate an increase in population of 167,200. That means we are starting 2013 with 15,000 houses short. We need to build those right now, and then 7,000 new ones per year just to stand still. In 2012 we built 4,582, the highest number since 2007, barely half of what we need.

But none of this is actually news. "Smart Growth" has delivered a social disaster. Len Brown wants to make Auckland 'compact' - just like Sydney. The problem is that is a recipe for crowded rentals. No-one thinks Sydney is affordable. We have to aspire to do better than that.  Change focus, Len.

3. Not such a good year (!)
Warren Buffett has written his annual letter to shareholders. In 2012 he did not outperform the S&P500. Written in accessible prose largely free of financial jargon, Berkshire’s annual letter holds appeal far beyond Wall Street.

This year’s dispatch contained plenty of Buffett’s folksy observations about investing and business that his devotees relish. “More than 50 years ago, Charlie told me that it was far better to buy a wonderful business at a fair price than to buy a fair business at a wonderful price,” he wrote, referring to his longtime partner, Charlie Munger.

Berkshire’s share price recently traded at a record high, surpassing its prefinancial crisis peak reached in 2007 and rising about 22% over the last year. The company reported profits last year of US$14.8 billion, up about 45% from 2011. Yet the company’s book value, or net worth lagged the broader stock market, increasing 14.4%, compared with the market’s 16% return.

When the partnership I ran took control of Berkshire in 1965, I could never have dreamed that a year in which we had a gain of $24.1 billion would be subpar, in terms of the comparison we present on the facing page. But subpar it was.

For the ninth time in 48 years, Berkshire’s percentage increase in book value was less than the S&P’s percentage gain (a calculation that includes dividends as well as price appreciation). In eight of those nine years, it should be noted, the S&P had a gain of 15% or more. We do better when the wind is in our face.

4. Today's raw market data ...
A quick new week update:

as at 11:10am Today
9:00 am
Friday Four
weeks ago
One
year ago
         
NZ$1 = US$ 0.8249 0.8248 0.8446 0.8287
NZ$1 = AU$ 0.8088 0.8074 0.8124 0.7736
TWI 75.87 75.62 76.12 73.41
         
Gold, US$/oz 1,582 1,588 1,669 1,707
Dow 14,083 14,027 13,899 12,982
Copper, US$/tonne 7,621 7,828 8,160 8,575
Volatility Index 15.51 15.36 14.67 17.29

5. Leverage matters - can banks be too safe?
Regular readers will know that we have banged on for years that the low levels of capital in banks is a key reason for vulnerability. Capital levels need to be higher and shareholders need to accept that banks are utilities and as such need to have lower return expectations.

Some say banks should be required to finance themselves in part with a form of debt that automatically converts into equity if a bank’s finances deteriorate. These “contingent convertible” securities - known as CoCos -work like canaries in the coal mine, losing value at the first sign of trouble so banks have time to fix things. BusinessWeek's review of a new book about the issue is helpful:

The Bankers’ New Clothes, published on Feb. 24, is wowing critics of fragile banks with a simple and attractive message: Force banks to have much thicker cushions of capital and you can make them safer without paying any cost in terms of higher interest rates, less lending, or lower economic growth. At a Feb. 11 prepublication event with authors Anat Admati and Martin Hellwig at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, senior fellow Morris Goldstein called the book “the most important contribution to the analysis of banking regulation in the past 25 years  ...  beautifully written and forcefully argued.”

The thicker a bank’s buffer of capital is—that is, the less it relies on borrowing to fund its operations—the lower the chance it will require a taxpayer bailout. Also, the easier it will be for the bank to keep lending and sustaining growth in a financial crisis. The extra margin of safety provided by more capital is a free lunch, argue Admati, a professor of economics and finance at Stanford business school, and Hellwig, an economist and director of the Max Planck Institute for Research on Collective Goods in Bonn, Germany. Says Admati in an interview: “What we are told - that you have to choose between growth and safety of banks - is just a false trade-off.”

6. Energy transformations
The sources of our energy are changing fast. Coal is in decline - just ask Don Elder.

Efficiency may be improving, but if economies start growing (and most are) the demand for raw energy will rise. NPR has been reviewing the current state of play in the biggest energy consuming market, and looking at where 'renewables' stand.

The way Americans get their electricity is changing. Coal is in decline. Natural gas is bursting out of the ground in record amounts. And the use of wind and solar energy is growing fast. All this is happening as power companies are trying to choose which kind of energy to bet on for the next several decades. Until recently, half of these plants burned coal to make electricity. Now, that's down to about one-third. Since 2010, about 150 coal plants either have been retired or it's been announced they will be retired soon.

What knocked King Coal off its throne? Mostly natural gas. "We added almost twice as much natural gas capacity as we retired coal capacity last year," says Trevor Houser, an energy analyst with the Rhodium Group in New York. Why gas? "That is primarily because of the price." The price of natural gas is well below what it was a few years ago. That's mostly because hydraulic fracturing technology is reaching more gas reserves, and also because a weak economy has lowered the demand for electricity.

And there's plenty more gas to come. On Thursday, a study from the University of Texas confirmed government estimates of huge reserves in Texas alone. That would suggest that coal is doomed.

But not so fast. The gas market is quirky. As people started burning more natural gas, gas prices crept up.

It's classic economics: "As natural gas prices have started to increase over the past few months," Houser points out, "coal's share of U.S. power generation has increased right alongside it."

7. Another train failure lesson
Note to Len B: big fancy rail projects have a universal habit to being financial boondoggles. Even the Germans aren't immune. The interesting thing about this Spiegel story is that the amounts that are causing angst in Stuttgart not too dissimilar to the NZ$3 bil. the Auckland mayor is proposing to spend - before the inevitable cost over-runs here.

The Germans now acknowledge their mistake, but they are trapped. Give up now Len; change your focus to housing affordability.

But the paper says the company fears abandoning the project altogether could lead to liabilities of at least €2 billion, and possibly more. Thus, "the executive board supports a continuation of the Stuttgart 21 project," the paper states. Executives also admit that "with the knowledge we have today, we would not have begun the project, but we would still continue it." Despite the explosion in costs, the federal government has signaled it will give the green light for continuation of the project and the board is likely to approve its completion as well.

Company officials are now saying the project will have a maximum total price tag of €6.5 billion. But internal documents suggest it may be lower, around €6 billion.

8. Not enough inflation
Annual price inflation in the US has been less than 2% in four of the last five years, evidence that "the Fed failed to do its job". In January, the rate came in at 1.2% for personal consumption expenditures, its lowest level since 2009.  More from the NY Times:

But the January number does underscore that the Fed failed to do its job over the last two years. It underestimated the stimulus that the economy required then to prevent inflation from sagging below 2 percent now. As Janet Yellen, the Fed’s vice chairwoman, said last April, “In effect there has been a significant shortfall in the overall amount of monetary policy stimulus since early 2009,” because the central bank can’t push short-term interest rates below zero, and its other measures, like asset purchases, haven’t filled the gap."

9. Job losses
No job loss stories again this week. It is very quiet on that front. But we did report on some expansion and major job hiring at Fonterra and Fisher&Paykel Appliances, but those don't count for our tally.

We are keeping a tally of reported job losses and we are asking readers for help keeping track of them. Let us know when you see some.

10. Today's quote
"We all need money, but there are degrees of desperation." Anthony Burgess

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#7: There may be some examples of bad rail projects, but how many ended up being bad investments in the long run? I bet London doesn't regret building its underground system. Even though it is heavily subsidised (in my opinion that is because it is run badly), the cities economy relies on it. In NZ we see public transport as an expensive 'nice to have' - we should be seing it as a requirment for economic growth

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Can you even begin to imagine what the London streets would look like if they did not have their rail system?

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Or even Sydney's if they didn't have theirs. 

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London has a population of 13 million ?? Auckland ?? 

 

Sydney has a population of 5 million ?? Auckland ??

 

Perhaps you are putting the horse before the cart ?? Economic growth before public investment ???

 

Are you sure a population of 1.2 million can finance an investment and mantainence of $3 billion ??

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They didn't wait till London had 13 million before they started to build one.

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I thought Auckland was 1.5 million?

I don't think Auckland needs multiple underground lines like London. I'm not even sure it needs the central rail link - maybe investment into other areas like trams might be a better option. But I do know Aucklnad needs some improvement in public transport, 1.5 million is still a fairly big city and most other cities that size have some form of decent public transport (other than buses).

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Nobody will disagree that public transport in Auckland is in a great need of improvement.

Right now the system and service sucks, not to mention it is expensive vis a vis private transport. But we all need to do our sums right and decide whether we can afford a $3billion rail project vs other form of public transport (eg yes Buses ).

 

As an example Singapore with a population of 5 million now has a MRT system that was free (The goverment built it and sold it to their operator for S$2.) and the operator (another goverment SOE of course) has only to run it and pay for mantainence and upgrade. Up to now after more than 20 years, it is still losing money......the last time it showed an improvement of financials, the trains broke down and it was discovered that mantainence was delayed inoder to show better financials !!

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While between cars for a month I used public transport. Train from Swanson way out West to Britomart and then bus from Britomart to Botany way out East. Couldn't fault the service. Train every 10 minutes and bus every 15. Clean, air conditioned and efficient. Was pretty expensive though. $27.20 return trip. The Britomart station still looks a million bucks and the tunnel would improve its capacity hugely. Buses are going to reach capacity in the city centre soon. One company is already trialling double decking

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So what you are saying is that we shouldn't spend money on trains just because Singapore failed? What about all the success stories - plenty of cities have good public rail transport, most if not all of those cities would be significantly worse off without it.

If subsidised public transport leads to good economic growth, why not go for it?

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Yes, please note your key word "subsidised". ALL public transport is subsidised one way or another by the goverment. This include London Tube, NY Subway etc etc. In Hongkong they say no subsidy but it is actually crossed subsidised by the properties build over the subway stations.

 

In all cases, since it has to subsidised, we should debate which type of transport should be subsidised and at what cost for what benefits.....However in auckland, Len Brown has decided that we should subsidise trains and not buses....and without any debate from the tax payers......

 

Would it be cheaper to subsidise buses instead of trains ?? How much is the interest foregone on $3billion alone ?? What would the "per person trip" subsidy be for trains and buses ??  Do we know ??

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The net construction cost is $1867m, the extra $367m for extra rolling stock and other network iimprovements. Total $2234m.

http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/01/03/using-the-sa-fleet-post-electrifi…

The actual tunnel is realitively cheap and engineering is straight forward and well understood (like Waterview Tunnels). The uncertainly is the stations.

 

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Do you really believe the costing shown in the link ?? I love how you said "realitively cheap and straight forward".....

 

I assume you have not read part #7 above.

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Great news folks..John Key is going to introduce legislation to give shareholders the veto power over executive salaries and bonuses and outlaw any handouts to departing bosses....John Key said the Swiss are leading the way to curb bloated pay and he wants to ensure shareholders including the govt, get a fair deal................................

Oh crap...I was dreaming

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Re Auckland housing how about they de-zone Ponsonby, Grey-Lynn, Eden Terrace Mt.Eden, and Parnell so that developers can put in some decent medium to high density housing?

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The problem is developers of recent years wouldn't know that "decent" was. Though I agree we need denisification the process in Auckland almost has to ber unique because of the universal 'detached dwelling on a plot of land' layout means there are no terraces or older large dwellings to repurpose, This is why central high rise apartment are attractive to the council, they fit in the existing architectural pattern.

How about this, The council buys an area for 'macro' redevelopment and then tenders out this area for developers, The 'tender' is not financial, The land is a fixed cost, the developer must declare the mix, design and cost of each unit and elected representives of the area get to decide the winner, least means you will get housing not another supermarket

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No leave the inner surbs alone  - they are great with their old villas, tree line avenues, main streets, and bustling communities. They have developed organically.

 

How about capping off the population growth in Auckland? I think it is a great city despite everyone always trash talking it. It needs protecting from over development/intensification. While other parts of NZ are declining backwaters, another obvious symptom of an unbalanced economy.

 

Or if the growth has to go ahead, then clusters of skyscraper apartments in downtown Auckland, Albany and Manukau. There is some amazing architecture being done around the world - Melbourne has got a 90 level apartment tower, Gehry has built a 70+ level tower clad with shiny stainless steel to look like wavy fabric, revitalising lower Manhattan. So get in the top notch international architects to do this.

 

 

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How about capping off the population growth in Auckland?

 

This is the most sensible solution to the housing problem in Akld.

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Great Top 10 David.

Loved that Auckland housing shortage chart. Says so much in a picture.

cheers

Bernard

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#9 - Could you set out please your rationale for keeping a tally of job losses in which job gains don't count?  

 

What do you think is the value of a statistic which sets out only one side of the balance?

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still they are not taking any stock of smaller organisations where the real collective job numbers are so a big fail on  the real trend....

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Because the trend in losses gives you an idea on the state of the economy. If we have truely recovered we should see these monthly losses decline.

regards

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Steven - I disagree somewhat as there is also a transfer which occurs. Some employment types will also change. Industries that are no longer competitive or are being replaced with new technology requires a transfer of labour. For example look at the number of people who now work in IT these jobs were not here 20 odd years ago.

 

If we want to see how good the economy is doing then monitoring new enterprise is highly important.  Also how many people/business's do not go ahead from compliance costs?

I have heard of 3 such enterprises within 2 days who have pulled the pin because of the enormous costs from the RMA process. None of the proposed enterprises would have emitted harmful contaminates into the environment.  We are not going to grow good business models with this sort of BS going on.

 

NZ'ers are in general very entreuprenural but this is wasted if the costs of getting their business up and running is delayed or prohibited in some way.  Small start-ups can and do have tremendous growth potential which is being undermined by bureaucracy.

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Re #2:  "The answer is in this chart. For more than a decade we have been building far too few new houses."

 

There is an alternative view regarding the chart, that the population via immigration has been increaing too quickly.

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Just think what a dent pausing immigration for just 12 - 18 months would make in the housing supply imbalance and unemployment. What's a year in the big scheme of things? Nothing else has to change

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WTF - and what happens if you pause immigration? Yes you might get a catch up in house numbers......but ........Government spending is too high and NZ needs more people to be working and paying taxes to fund the dearly beloved institutions and bureaucracy that a large percentage of the people desire.

The Government is not concerned with the people's problems of housing it is worried about how it can contain the bloated spending of the bureaucracy.

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Don't dispute government spending needs pruning, especially on highly paid consultants. We have a great Select Committee system in this country where interest groups and individual citizens can profer advice and ideas for free. Just needs some intelligent people in Parliament to analyse it.

 

Increasing population to create more taxpayers is chasing your tail. They also need more infrastructure and services to support them and beyond a certain point the environment and the lifestyle of the city suffers. Better to concentrate on full employment of the existing population. Auckland has enough critical mass now population wise. The desperate ego driven desire of local and national politicians to compete with Sydney and Melbourne has blinded them to what makes Auckland a great place to live.

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Len Brown for "Soviet Thinker of the Year".

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#2 Auckland housing will be solved by the market....according to Key. I suspect he means when the next financial crisis comes along and make bankrupts of all those unpayable mortgagers.....Of course he is aided and abetted by Len Brown in his ideological insistence for intensification of Auckland irrespective of reality and costing.

 

Brown need higher density of Auckland to make his train set runs at least half profitably....the other half will forever be subsidised by ratepayers....meanwhile everybody forgets that ALL land in the city is already privately owned and no way in hell are the holders going to sell it at prices ever possible to make housing affordable in Auckland....Infact intensification has made these landholdings even more valuable and expensive.....

 

I pity the South Aucklanders supporters of Len Brown (his vote bank) having to live in containers while Len Brown pursue his ideological crusade to make housing even more expensive....soon even containers will be too expensive to live in !!! 

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Kin

The irony is that trains run counter to intensification, they are only effective carrying bulk loads long distances, intensification is meant to remove this requirement, so yes he is an ideological fool

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"But none of this is actually news. "Smart Growth" has delivered a social disaster.... The problem is that is a recipe for crowded rentals."

 

You might want to google smart growth - there hasn't been any in Auckland yet so how exactly has it caused 'social disasters'?

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#2 - thats a good graph!

Well, this is just simply a disaster. We know that. The problem has been brewing for years and the various Councils did jack about it. Len Brown oversaw a council at Manukau that did almost nothin, so he is merely continuing that legacy  

Bob makes a good point. There hasn't really been smart growth. The old ARC planned for it, but there was almost no execution of it, in terms of upzonings.

It doesn't need to be black and white. It can't be. Auckland needs intensification AND greenfield. It needs private AND public housing delivery.  

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Auckland was doomed before the last election when our dysfunctional democratic process presented a Hobson's choice between Brown and Banks. There's nothing wrong with the super city concept. The problem was the predictably incompetent implementation. 

 

On a national level it has been and will be no different. John Key vs David Shearer vs Winston First. What a joke. The only reasonably honest bunch are the Greens and they're totally away with the fairies on amost everything except specifically green issues.

 

Democracy is dead. And not just in New Zealand. The demos are too ill-informed, stupid, ignorant, apathetic, and/or self-interested to make it work.

 

I've been a right wing voter for 50 years. I spent 20 years in the armed forces full of gung ho and misguided enthusiasm for the defence of democracy, freedom, capitalism, the right to vote, et al. I get to 70 years old and discover that all I've supported is trashing the planet, an immoral and self-destructive financial system, destruction of the middle class, dumbing down the media and education, and lining the pockets of a few shadowy individuals and families running the planet  to whom 99.999% of the human race are good for nothing but cannon fodder.

 

Change is coming. Not because we're going to see the light but because we're going to hit an economic and ecological brick wall with our boot flat to the floorboards.

 

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Perhaps a M5S movement for New Zealand too ???

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There's no need, we already have a comedian as Priime Minister.

 

 

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...... nah , you seen his act on Latenight Live with Letterman ? ...... Key was crap .....

 

He should stick to currency  gambling ..... ummmmm , sorry ..... " Forex Trading ! " ...

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AH - I think a lot of people will sympathise with your views regarding democracy.  I agree with P J O'Rourke -  ' Don't vote it only encourages sthe bastards"

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And Winston Churchill:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

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I have no idea whether the guy's analysis is robust, but Williamson provides a classic reply from those fashionably ensconced within the bureaucratic application of the precautionary paradigm - 

 

Building and Construction Minister Maurice Williamson said Harrison had every right to his opinion, but he did not agree with his assertions.

 

As a minister or official, when presented with quantitative evidence derived from standard analytical methods employed under the verifiable cost/benefit approach - debase all findings other than your bureaucratic interpretation as being values-based 'opinion'.

 

Same thing Key did on Hardtalk in trying to argue against empirical evidence that NZ is not 100% pure.

 

 

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Don't know where that Act has got to - but there is the Regulations Review Committee.

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Hugh, this has to be done....it's to save live in case another quake happens in 50 years time and 5 people die.......Beaurocrats love such policy ruling because it make them feel clever and it's not their money they have to spend !!! 

 

Politicians love this too...it shows they are WORKING !!!!

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Good to hear someone's looking forward to learning.     :)

 

But addressing a risk as low as that of an earthquake, while ignoring the implications of this graph:

 

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Looking-Back-on-the-Limits-of-Growth.html

 

is 'chosen ignorance' - read 'denial' - writ large.

 

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He's an idiot...oh he was an idiot. Reality LOL...Im sorry Hugh P, but you are mad.

If nothing else he obviously believed in a flat earth, because infinite demand does not go into a finite planet.

But then given your lacking in science, engineeing knowledge and libertarian political blinkers Im not surprised you are easily fooled by fellow snake oil salesmen.

regards

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That's funny. 

 

Reminds me of One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest.

 

 

 

 

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On the subject of Lomborg and Simon and where they have contributed to where we are today - you would all very much enjoy the special edition in this journal.  The article linked to being the introduction to the question of:

 

How do advanced modern capitalist consumer democracies try and manage to sustain what is known to be unsustainable?

 

They have coined the current social condition as the politics of unsustainability.

 

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09644010701211650

 

 

 

 

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Jonathon Schell:

 

“Taken in its entirety, the increase in mankind’s strength has brought about a decisive, many-sided shift in the balance of strength between man and the earth.”
“Nature, once a harsh and feared master, now lies in subjection and needs protection against man’s powers.”


“Yet because man, no matter what intellectual and technical heights he may scale, remains embedded in nature, the balance has shifted against him too, and the threat that he poses to the Earth is a threat to him as well.”

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Rachel Carson (1907-1964) is quoted by the NYT in their obituary for her - saying much the same - I find it very prophetic;

 

“We still talk in terms of conquest. We still haven’t become mature enough to think of ourselves as only a tiny part of a vast and incredible universe. Man’s attitude toward nature is today critically important simply because we have now acquired a fateful power to alter and destroy nature... Now, I truly believe, that we in this generation, must come to terms with nature, and I think we’re challenged as mankind has never been challenged before to prove our maturity and our mastery, not of nature, but of ourselves.”

 

http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/10/05/reviews/carson-obit.html

 

Given her generation didn't get there.

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Roger makes another 20/20 call there (with hindsight of course) about how much value to expect for following Hugh's advice. Its good to see Hugh has learned a bit of self deprication for a change doesn't it.

 

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Hugh,
What are you trying to free PDK from? His life of sailing superyachts, land banking, and pedal powering his washing machine?

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He's trying to free Hugh from having to explain anything to PDK in future. Seems the simplest way to achieve this is to stop posting anything (probably the only way to achieve this actually), but Hugh didn't figure that out just yet.

 

 

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If growing up means conformity to the predominant views of society regardless of my values and experience, I'd rather not grow up! 

 

 

 

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Making housing unaffordable is the quickest way to make public transport less uneconomic. As the cost of putting a roof over your head is one of the first uses you put your hard earnt money to, by making you spend more of it than you should and need to, you have less to spend on private transport, to the point where you cannot afford to. Also never mind you have less to spend on other basics like food as well. Your only choice left is then Shanks’ pony (public transport), along with having to live close to public transport links, and having to choose housing that is smaller and higher density than you would have chosen otherwise. To make all NZers spend many hundreds of thousands in extra house purchase costs, mortgages, less to spend on health, education etc., all to make public transport less uneconomic is social engineering at its worst.

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After Peak oil "Your only choice left is then Shanks’ pony (public transport), along with having to live close to public transport links, and having to choose housing that is smaller and higher density than you would have chosen otherwise"

Which is our future as we cannot meet the ever rising costs of petrol and deisel.

Were you alive in 1964? because thats the std of energy use we will be back to in 20 years.

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PS shanks pony was walking in my day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanks%27s_pony

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Yes I was alive in 1964, and would welcome returning to the larger section sizes of that era, had a wonderful low density urban upbringing. The new word is ‘Shank’s public transport’; it’s not on Wikipedia yet.

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so was I, but there are now double the number of people on the planet, so that's half the 1964 fuel per-head.

 

Those who tout public transport are right, but with caveats: most still assume folk will be 'going to work'.That's almost certain to not be the case.

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Sometimes I think this site is for old fellas refighting the 60's...

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1960's, 1860' or in Malthus's case 1760's?

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Thieving Spanish govt style...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/9907124/Spain-tells-British-expats-to-declare-overseas-assets.html

Excellent stupidity...how to drive out spenders and drive down property values...doh

 

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