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Moving up the property ladder is still affordable for most existing home owners

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Moving up the property ladder is still affordable for most existing home owners

interest.co.nz Home Loan Affordability Report
May 2023

The Home Loan Affordability Report usually looks at how aspiring first home buyers are faring in the market. But this month there was very little movement either one way or the other in the main affordability measures for first home buyers. So we have done something different and looked at affordability for people who already own their own home and want to make the move up onto the second rung of the property ladder.

However we haven't abandoned first home buyers completely. The first two tables below give the latest regional affordability measures for first home buyers.

To gauge how affordable it is for people to move up a rung on the property ladder, we have assumed our current first home owners bought their home 10 years ago (May 2013), at what was then the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand's lower quartile selling price.

They sell that home at the current lower quartile price and use the proceeds left once the mortgage has been repaid in full and agent's commission has been deducted, as the deposit for a home purchased at the REINZ's current median selling price.

Essentially this means they are moving up the property ladder from a lower quartile-priced home to a median-priced home after 10 years in their first home.

The first thing to note in this exercise is the huge increase in house prices that has occurred over the last 10 years. The national lower quartile selling price increased from $275,000 in May 2013 to $580,000 in May 2023. That gives a capital gain of $305,000, which is more than the owners' would have originally paid for it. And that's after allowing for the decline in prices since the lower quartile price peaked at $670,000 in November 2021.

We estimate that if the home was sold at the current lower quartile price of $580,000 and the owners had originally purchased it with a 10% deposit, they would have about $359,000 once the mortgage was repaid and the agent's commission was paid. They could use this as a deposit on their new median-priced home.

If they had originally purchased their home with a 20% deposit, they would have $381,000 to put towards a deposit.

Unfortunately the price of the home they are looking to buy would also have appreciated substantially over the last 10 years.

Between May 2013 and May 2023 the REINZ's national median price doubled, increasing from $390,000 to $780,000.

If the second rung buyers had a deposit of between $359,000 and $381,000 (depending on whether they purchased their first home with a 10% or 20% deposit), they would need to take out a mortgage for between $399,000 and $421,000 to get into a median-priced home, even with their reasonably high level of equity.

The mortgage payments (two year fixed) on that would work out to between $582 and $614 a week. And assuming the couple both had jobs that were paying the median rates of pay for people aged 35-39, the mortgage payments would eat up somewhere between 26% to 28% of their after-tax pay each week.

That puts those transactions squarely into affordable territory, meaning the first home buyers of 10 years ago remain well placed to move on up the property ladder now and into a more expensive home.

In the examples given above they would have enough equity from the sale of their first home to make a deposit of around 50% on a home at the current median price, and the mortgage payments would eat up between a quarter and a third of their after tax pay if they were both earning average rates of pay.

So the question many such buyers will face is not whether they can afford to trade up, because clearly they can. It's rather whether they want to take on a new mortgage that's likely to be around $400,000. That of course, will depend very much on their individual motivations and circumstances.

That concern would probably be heightened in main centres where prices are higher.

Doing the same exercise and using Auckland prices, shows second rung buyers would need to take on a mortgage of between $487,000 and $520,000 to move up to a median-priced home. Their mortgage payments work out at between $710 to $758 a week, chewing up just under a third of the after-tax pay rates used in our example.

Although that's still affordable, taking on that much debt may not be something people would want to do in times of economic uncertainty.

However with residential property investors tending to stay on the sidelines because of the poor returns being available from residential property and many first home buyers being shut out of the market by the combination of high prices and high interest rates, second rung buyers are likely to increasingly dominate the market.

The second set of tables below show the regional variations in the affordability figures for second rung in the examples given above.

They show the only place where moving up the property ladder is squarely in unaffordable territory is Queenstown.

However Queenstown is a unique market in this country with quite different drivers to the rest of Aotearoa, so the Queenstown figures are very much an outlier.

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Affordability Tables for First Home Buyers:

Home Loan Affordability for Typical First Home Buyers with a 10% Deposit
for a home purchased at the REINZ's lower quartile selling price in each region/district
May 2023
  Region Amount required for a 10% deposit Years to save a 10% deposit Size of mortgage with a 10% deposit Weekly payments on a 90% mortgage Median weekly after-tax pay Affordability: mortgage payments as % of after-tax pay
  Northland $54,600 3.0 $491,400 $809 $1,842 43.9%
  Auckland $80,000 4.1 $720,000 $1,185 $1,995 59.4%
  Waikato $61,200 3.2 $550,800 $906 $1,929 47.0%
  Bay of Plenty $61,000 3.3 $549,000 $903 $1,886 47.9%
  Hawkes Bay $54,000 2.9 $486,000 $800 $1,874 42.7%
  Taranaki $41,500 2.2 $373,500 $615 $1,896 32.4%
  Manawatu/Whanganui $42,000 2.3 $378,000 $622 $1,896 32.8%
  Wellington $64,500 3.2 $580,500 $955 $2,055 46.5%
  Nelson/Marlborough $61,500 3.3 $553,500 $911 $1,878 48.5%
  Canterbury/Westland $52,500 2.7 $472,500 $777 $1,936 40.1%
  Otago $48,500 2.6 $436,500 $718 $1,869 38.4%
  Southland $35,700 1.9 $321,300 $529 $1,976 26.8%
  All of Aotearoa $58,000 3.0 $522,000 $859 $1,959 43.8%
               
  City/District            
  Whangarei $58,500 3.0 $526,500 $866 $1,962 44.1%
  Rodney $94,000 4.8 $846,000 $1,392 $1,995 69.8%
  Auckland North Shore $90,300 4.6 $812,700 $1,337 $1,995 67.0%
  Auckland West $78,300 4.0 $704,700 $1,159 $1,995 58.1%
  Auckland Central $82,500 4.2 $742,500 $1,222 $1,995 61.2%
  Auckland Manukau $76,500 3.9 $688,500 $1,133 $1,995 56.8%
  Papakura $73,700 3.8 $663,300 $1,091 $1,995 54.7%
  Franklin $75,600 3.9 $680,400 $1,120 $1,995 56.1%
  Hamilton $63,500 3.4 $571,500 $940 $1,922 48.9%
  Tauranga $72,000 3.9 $648,000 $1,066 $1,867 57.1%
  Rotorua $50,500 2.7 $454,500 $748 $1,915 39.0%
  Gisborne $53,000 3.2 $477,000 $785 $1,688 46.5%
  Napier $55,500 3.0 $499,500 $822 $1,881 43.7%
  Hastings $55,000 3.0 $495,000 $814 $1,874 43.5%
  Wairarapa $40,000 2.5 $360,000 $592 $1,597 37.1%
  New Plymouth $51,000 2.8 $459,000 $755 $1,868 40.4%
  Whanganui $35,900 2.1 $323,100 $532 $1,761 30.2%
  Palmerston North $50,000 2.5 $450,000 $740 $2,009 36.9%
  Kapiti Coast $65,750 3.7 $591,750 $974 $1,832 53.2%
  Porirua $65,000 3.4 $585,000 $963 $1,947 49.4%
  Wellington Hutt $60,500 3.1 $544,500 $896 $1,998 44.8%
  Wellington City $70,000 3.1 $630,000 $1,037 $2,332 44.4%
  Nelson $61,500 3.3 $553,500 $911 $1,878 48.5%
  Christchurch $52,000 2.7 $468,000 $770 $1,929 39.9%
  Timaru $40,000 2.3 $360,000 $592 $1,773 33.4%
  Queenstown $91,000 5.0 $819,000 $1,348 $1,869 72.1%
  Dunedin $46,500 2.7 $418,500 $689 $1,755 39.2%
  Invercargill $35,900 2.0 $323,100 $532 $1,888 28.2%
  Notes: Calculations based on buying a home at the REINZ's lower quartile selling price in each region/district. Mortgage interest rate used is the average of the two year fixed rates offered by the major banks, with a loading for a low equity loan on a 30 year term. Weekly income is based on the combined, median, after-tax pay for couples aged 25-29, if both work full time. Years to save is based on saving 20% of after-tax pay each week.
 
 
 
 
Home Loan Affordability for Typical First Home Buyers with a 20% Deposit
for a home purchased at the REINZ's lower quartile selling price in each region/district
May 2023
  Region Amount required for a 20% deposit Years to save a 20% deposit Size of mortgage with a 20% deposit Weekly payments on an 80% mortgage Median weekly after-tax pay Affordability: mortgage payments as % of after-tax pay
  Northland $109,200 5.9 $436,800 $637 $1,842 34.6%
  Auckland $160,000 8.0 $640,000 $934 $1,995 46.8%
  Waikato $122,400 6.3 $489,600 $714 $1,929 37.0%
  Bay of Plenty $122,000 6.5 $488,000 $712 $1,886 37.7%
  Hawke's Bay $108,000 5.8 $432,000 $630 $1,874 33.6%
  Taranaki $83,000 4.3 $332,000 $484 $1,896 25.5%
  Manawatu/Whanganui $84,000 4.4 $336,000 $490 $1,896 25.8%
  Wellington $129,000 6.3 $516,000 $753 $2,055 36.6%
  Nelson/Marlborough $123,000 6.5 $492,000 $718 $1,878 38.2%
  Canterbury/Westland $105,000 5.4 $420,000 $613 $1,936 31.6%
  Bay of Plenty $122,000 6.5 $488,000 $712 $1,886 37.7%
  Otago $97,000 5.2 $388,000 $566 $1,869 30.3%
  Southland $71,400 3.6 $285,600 $417 $1,976 21.1%
  All of Aotearoa $116,000 5.9 $464,000 $677 $1,959 34.6%
               
  City/District            
  Whangarei $117,000 5.9 $468,000 $683 $1,962 34.8%
  Rodney $188,000 9.4 $752,000 $1,097 $1,995 55.0%
  Auckland North Shore $180,600 9.0 $722,400 $1,054 $1,995 52.8%
  Auckland West $156,600 7.8 $626,400 $914 $1,995 45.8%
  Auckland Central $165,000 8.2 $660,000 $963 $1,995 48.3%
  Auckland Manukau $153,000 7.6 $612,000 $893 $1,995 44.8%
  Papakura $147,400 7.4 $589,600 $860 $1,995 43.1%
  Franklin $151,200 7.5 $604,800 $882 $1,995 44.2%
  Hamilton $127,000 6.6 $508,000 $741 $1,922 38.6%
  Tauranga $144,000 7.7 $576,000 $840 $1,867 45.0%
  Rotorua $101,000 5.2 $404,000 $589 $1,915 30.8%
  Gisborne $106,000 6.3 $424,000 $618 $1,688 36.6%
  Napier $111,000 5.9 $444,000 $648 $1,881 34.4%
  Hastings $110,000 5.9 $440,000 $642 $1,874 34.2%
  Wairarapa $80,000 5.0 $320,000 $467 $1,597 29.2%
  New Plymouth $102,000 5.4 $408,000 $595 $1,868 31.9%
  Whanganui $71,800 4.1 $287,200 $419 $1,761 23.8%
  Palmerston North $100,000 4.9 $400,000 $583 $2,009 29.0%
  Kapiti Coast $131,500 7.2 $526,000 $767 $1,832 41.9%
  Porirua $130,000 6.7 $520,000 $759 $1,947 39.0%
  Wellington Hutt $121,000 6.0 $484,000 $706 $1,998 35.3%
  Wellington City $140,000 6.0 $560,000 $817 $2,332 35.0%
  Nelson $123,000 6.5 $492,000 $718 $1,878 38.2%
  Christchurch $104,000 5.3 $416,000 $607 $1,929 31.5%
  Timaru $80,000 4.5 $320,000 $467 $1,773 26.3%
  Queenstown $182,000 9.7 $728,000 $1,062 $1,869 56.8%
  Dunedin $93,000 5.3 $372,000 $543 $1,755 30.9%
  Invercargill $71,800 3.8 $287,200 $419 $1,888 22.2%
  Notes: Calculations based on buying a home at the REINZ's lower quartile selling price in each region/district. Mortgage interest rate used is the average of the two year fixed rates offered by the major banks, with a 30 year term. Weekly income is based on the combined, median, after-tax pay for couples aged 25-29, if both work full time. Years to save is based on saving 20% of after-tax pay each week.
 
 
 
 

Affordability Tables for Second Rung Buyers:

Affordability for First Home Owners Moving up the Property Ladder and Buying Their Next Home at the Current Median Price
Assuming they bought their first home at the lower quartile price 10 years ago with a 10% deposit
May 2023
  Region Current median house price Total equity/ deposit Deposit % on median priced home Mortgage required Weekly mortgage payments Median take home pay Affordability: Mortgage payments as % of take home pay
  Northland $715,000 $359,557 50.3% $355,443 $518 $2,052 25.3%
  Auckland $995,000 $475,332 47.8% $519,668 $758 $2,333 32.5%
  Waikato $740,000 $421,421 56.9% $318,579 $465 $2,156 21.6%
  Bay of Plenty $790,000 $391,358 49.5% $398,642 $581 $1,727 33.7%
  Hawkes Bay $660,000 $366,189 55.5% $293,811 $429 $2,024 21.2%
  Taranaki $534,000 $237,527 44.5% $296,473 $432 $2,059 21.0%
  Manawatu/Whanganui $528,000 $287,473 54.4% $240,527 $351 $2,059 17.0%
  Wellington $795,000 $410,154 51.6% $384,846 $561 $2,442 23.0%
  Nelson/Marlborough $770,000 $365,493 47.5% $404,507 $590 $1,980 29.8%
  Canterbury/Westland $650,000 $302,026 46.5% $347,974 $508 $2,098 24.2%
  Otago $670,000 $321,883 48.0% $348,117 $508 $2,046 24.8%
  Southland $433,000 $242,206 55.9% $190,794 $278 $2,005 13.9%
  New Zealand $780,000 $358,755 46.0% $421,245 $614 $2,204 27.9%
                 
  District              
  Whangarei $719,500 $406,692 56.5% $312,808 $456 $2,185 20.9%
  Rodney $1,150,000 $585,588 50.9% $564,412 $823 $2,333 35.3%
  Auckland North Shore $1,140,000 $486,311 42.7% $653,689 $954 $2,333 40.9%
  Auckland West $928,000 $469,157 50.6% $458,843 $669 $2,333 28.7%
  Auckland Central $1,022,500 $481,920 47.1% $540,580 $789 $2,333 33.8%
  Auckland Manukau $945,000 $478,823 50.7% $466,177 $680 $2,333 29.2%
  Papakura $829,000 $479,935 57.9% $349,065 $509 $2,333 21.8%
  Franklin $940,000 $499,366 53.1% $440,634 $643 $2,333 27.6%
  Hamilton $775,000 $414,387 53.5% $360,613 $526 $2,148 24.5%
  Tauranga $861,000 $469,741 54.6% $391,259 $571 $2,087 27.4%
  Rotorua $600,000 $352,144 58.7% $247,856 $362 $2,140 16.9%
  Gisborne $600,000 $372,615 62.1% $227,385 $332 $1,887 17.6%
  Napier $665,000 $355,090 53.4% $309,910 $452 $2,032 22.3%
  Hastings $695,000 $366,925 52.8% $328,075 $479 $2,024 23.6%
  Wairarapa $440,000 $258,126 58.7% $181,874 $265 $1,685 15.7%
  New Plymouth $606,342 $298,512 49.2% $307,830 $449 $2,029 22.1%
  Whanganui $460,000 $250,347 54.4% $209,653 $306 $1,913 16.0%
  Palmerston North $620,000 $319,552 51.5% $300,448 $438 $2,181 20.1%
  Kapiti Coast $817,500 $437,196 53.5% $380,304 $555 $2,177 25.5%
  Porirua $810,000 $396,711 49.0% $413,289 $603 $2,315 26.0%
  Wellington Hutt $780,000 $397,494 51.0% $382,506 $558 $2,375 23.5%
  Wellington City $875,000 $396,003 45.3% $478,997 $699 $2,778 25.1%
  Nelson $770,000 $365,493 47.5% $404,507 $590 $1,980 29.8%
  Christchurch $630,000 $282,587 44.9% $347,413 $507 $2,090 24.2%
  Timaru $520,000 $239,858 46.1% $280,142 $409 $1,923 21.3%
  Queenstown $1,272,000 $593,173 46.6% $678,827 $990 $2,046 48.4%
  Dunedin $565,000 $307,698 54.5% $257,302 $375 $1,922 19.5%
  Invercargill $445,000 $245,962 55.3% $199,038 $290 $1,917 15.1%
  Notes: The calculations in this table assume a couple purchased their first home 10 years ago for the lower quartile price at the time (May 2013) with a 10% deposit.  They then sell that home at the current (May 2023) lower quartile price and use the net proceeds from that to buy their next home at the current median price. All mortgage calculations are based on the interest rate being the prevailing average of the two year fixed rates offered by the major banks and a 30 year term, with a loading on the original mortgage for a low equity loan. The equity/deposit calculation is the money that would be left over from the sale once the mortgage has been repaid in full, with an additional allowance for real estate agent's commission. The affordability measure is based on the median, after-tax wages for 35-39 year olds and assumes both work full time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Affordability for First Home Owners Moving up the Property Ladder and Buying Their Next Home at the Current Median Price
  Assuming their bought their first home at the lower quartile price 10 years ago with a 20% deposit
May 2023
  Region Current median house price Total equity/ deposit Deposit % on median priced home Mortgage required Weekly mortgage payments Median after-tax pay Affordability: Mortgage payments as % of after-tax pay
  Northland $715,000 $378,150 52.9% $336,850 $491 $2,052 24.0%
  Auckland $995,000 $508,295 51.1% $486,705 $710 $2,333 30.4%
  Waikato $740,000 $440,216 59.5% $299,784 $437 $2,156 20.3%
  Bay of Plenty $790,000 $413,280 52.3% $376,720 $550 $1,727 31.8%
  Hawkes Bay $660,000 $383,402 58.1% $276,598 $403 $2,024 19.9%
  Taranaki $534,000 $255,632 47.9% $278,368 $406 $2,059 19.7%
  Manawatu/Whanganui $528,000 $300,565 56.9% $227,435 $332 $2,059 16.1%
  Wellington $795,000 $433,739 54.6% $361,261 $527 $2,442 21.6%
  Nelson/Marlborough $770,000 $390,825 50.8% $379,175 $553 $1,980 27.9%
  Canterbury/Westland $650,000 $324,759 50.0% $325,241 $474 $2,098 22.6%
  Otago $670,000 $338,121 50.5% $331,879 $484 $2,046 23.7%
  Southland $433,000 $253,572 58.6% $179,428 $262 $2,005 13.1%
  All of Aotearoa $780,000 $381,082 48.9% $398,918 $582 $2,204 26.4%
                 
  District              
  Whangarei $719,500 $424,229 59.0% $295,271 $431 $2,185 19.7%
  Rodney $1,150,000 $621,311 54.0% $528,689 $771 $2,333 33.1%
  Auckland North Shore $1,140,000 $529,098 46.4% $610,902 $891 $2,333 38.2%
  Auckland West $928,000 $500,983 54.0% $427,017 $623 $2,333 26.7%
  Auckland Central $1,022,500 $516,831 50.5% $505,669 $738 $2,333 31.6%
  Auckland Manukau $945,000 $507,645 53.7% $437,355 $638 $2,333 27.3%
  Papakura $829,000 $505,632 61.0% $323,368 $472 $2,333 20.2%
  Franklin $940,000 $524,941 55.8% $415,059 $605 $2,333 26.0%
  Hamilton $775,000 $436,430 56.3% $338,570 $494 $2,148 23.0%
  Tauranga $861,000 $494,748 57.5% $366,252 $534 $2,087 25.6%
  Rotorua $600,000 $367,164 61.2% $232,836 $340 $2,140 15.9%
  Gisborne $600,000 $388,041 64.7% $211,959 $309 $1,887 16.4%
  Napier $665,000 $375,144 56.4% $289,856 $423 $2,032 20.8%
  Hastings $695,000 $385,128 55.4% $309,872 $452 $2,024 22.3%
  Wairarapa $440,000 $272,334 61.9% $167,666 $245 $1,685 14.5%
  New Plymouth $606,342 $320,027 52.8% $286,315 $418 $2,029 20.6%
  Whanganui $460,000 $261,023 56.7% $198,977 $290 $1,913 15.2%
  Palmerston North $620,000 $337,657 54.5% $282,343 $412 $2,181 18.9%
  Kapiti Coast $817,500 $459,117 56.2% $358,383 $523 $2,177 24.0%
  Porirua $810,000 $422,326 52.1% $387,674 $565 $2,315 24.4%
  Wellington Hutt $780,000 $418,197 53.6% $361,803 $528 $2,375 22.2%
  Wellington City $875,000 $427,059 48.8% $447,941 $653 $2,778 23.5%
  Nelson $770,000 $390,825 50.8% $379,175 $553 $1,980 27.9%
  Christchurch $630,000 $306,944 48.7% $323,056 $471 $2,090 22.5%
  Timaru $520,000 $256,096 49.2% $263,904 $385 $1,923 20.0%
  Queenstown $1,272,000 $624,837 49.1% $647,163 $944 $2,046 46.1%
  Dunedin $565,000 $323,368 57.2% $241,632 $352 $1,922 18.3%
  Invercargill $445,000 $257,126 57.8% $187,874 $274 $1,917 14.3%
  Notes: The calculations in this table assume a couple purchased their first home 10 years ago for the lower quartile price at the time (May 2013) with a 20% deposit.  They then sell that home at the current (May 2023) lower quartile price and use the net proceeds from that to buy their next home at the current median price. All mortgage calculations are based on the interest rate being the prevailing average of the two year fixed rates offered by the major banks and a 30 year term. The equity/deposit calculation is the money that would be left over from the sale once the mortgage has been repaid in full, with an additional allowance for real estate agent's commission. The affordability measure is based on the median, after-tax wages for 35-39 year olds and assumes both work full time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Climbing the property ladder. Consider it a patriotic duty for your country. You're not just fulfilling aspirations, but helping out your fellow man, woman, and other identities. 

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Bit of a silly sarcastic comment - your negativity or envy towards homeownership screams out loudly. 

Changes in the family - not only likely more children but also older and bigger - as well as ability to afford a more comfortable home are sound pragmatic and common reasons for trading homes.

Get over it. 

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Tenants are entitled to their opinions printer. Its just that with JC if its not Bitcoin its a hype bubble

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Tenants are entitled to their opinions printer. Its just that with JC if its not Bitcoin its a hype bubble

The ol' rat poison is a juxtaposition. 

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Bit of a silly sarcastic comment - your negativity or envy towards homeownership screams out loudly. 

Definitely not sarcasm. In fact, I fully support people buying houses. And the economy relies on steady turnover of houses. Heavily.  

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But if you can't buy a house

Pop down a hundy or two on butt-coin

Tell your friends too

It's less of a pyramid, and more an evil rhombus.

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But if you can't buy a house

Pop down a hundy or two on butt-coin

No deposit mortgages are likely to be ancient history my friend. 

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Get over it !! ......well get over this -  59.4% of net income !!!  for Auckland for an FHB with a 10% deposit ! 

There was a phrase going round in the mid 2010's about those with very "vested interests" in the PPP about "pulling up the ladder",  which was what was happening, as prices were steadily increasing and more and more FHB's were finding the prices out of reach. 

Those same people are now saying "look, look, prices have come down!"  - well they have come down alright and these people are watching their capital reduce day by day. 

BUT these same people what every fool out there to jump to their tune and BUY at even these STILL CRAZY prices !! because if some mug doesn't,  their wealth will slowly dissipate away...while with inflation, that dollar is losing value day by day. 

With the way the financial world (and it's not, sorry to say just NZ residential property -  as much as you want it to be! ) is going now, I would watch these greedy vendors "sweat it out" who are trying to cash out of this mess. They of course know what's happening, so all the spruikers can baffle you with BS all they like, so be PROPERLY INFORMED 

The shoes on the other foot peeps -  remember every written offer has to be presented to the vendor ! 

Now get to that "home of your dreams" - make an offer and let 'em sweat ! 

 

 

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Write on 

CH Are you also nz gecko, similar style and points.

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There is only one (1) CRAZY HORSE ! .....yeee haaaa pardner  !!! 

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This is pure madness. First off, don't use a real estate agent. Second, wait 5 more years. 

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No one knows what will happen in 5 years, not you, not me, not anyone, except that we are all 5 years closer to death.  Some people are doers, others are waiters...

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Some are more in debt...some are not.

With DTi around the corner being more in debt seems silly. If speculative investment can only carry a tiny, compared to the last ten years, level of debt, it is hard to see the values of today being maintained.

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7HouseLuxon is going to give the housing market one last huge push. He and all his Nat MP mates own so many properties they would be foolish not to.

Because Labour will lose the election Nats will be in power - expect tax cuts for investors, maximised immigration and more... they will prob cut benefits and govt spending to offset the huge gains for the wealthy - so inflation can be managed by stopping the poor people spending on basics so the wealthy can spend on luxuries.

So property might not be a bad investment due to cap gains - if one can afford higher interest rates... at least for a couple more years.

Need shades for the NZ future.

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Yeh we do houses will triple in value and bitcoin will go to zero. I've seen it in the tea leaves

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Just remember .....there is "good debt" and "bad debt". 

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Interesting piece - thanks Greg.

Just a quick question - did you account for any mortgage repayments that would have been made over those 10 years? I imagine they would have knocked a reasonable chunk off the mortgage of their original home, leaving more of a deposit for the next one.

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we have assumed our current first home owners bought their home 10 years ago (May 2013)

 

this assumption is a bit out. I think the average time for someone stay in the same property average around 6-7 years, not 10 years. 

and after paying 10 years of mortgage,  there chunk of principal payment accumulated too, you have to take that into consideration.  10 years mortgage payment should have halved the initial mortgage, many would have paid it off if they have had lump payment.

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On a 25 year table loan (what the bank wants you to take) you've paid back around 20% principle after 10 years

It's not until year 17 that you've paid off half and are now paying more principle than interest

https://www.interest.co.nz/calculators/full-function-mortgage-calculator

So on the average house purchase in 2013 at $390k, and the average rate at the time 5.75% you've paid off $76k after 10 years

Worth running the numbers - even a .5% increase or decrease makes an impact each way

 

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Your figures seem about right. 
remember also that after 17 years inflation would have likely squashed the real value of that debt by about half.  So by then you really only owe about a quarter. 

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Anyone know of an online calculator that allows you to include projected inflation, changes to interest rates, future lump sums, equity releases, holding costs, maintenance (new roof year 15 etc) along the terms of the loan etc? 

Would be worth sharing, thanks. 

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Try moneychimp.com

The calculators on interest repayments, compounding interest etc changed my life. I went from putting most of my spare cash against a mortgage to living incredibly frugally to clear the mortgage. Plot the graphs-principal vs interest repayments. Track, learn and understand.

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Good work. I followed a similar path and paid off my 30 year mortgage in 6 years while rates were at record lows.

I paid a total of $90,000 in interest on a $600,000 mortgage ($690,000 total) was about versus $835,000 you would pay on a 30 year mortgage at 6.99% ($1,435,000 total)

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Thanks Cheetah - I remember MoneyChimp now from years ago. Think it might have been one of the first online tools.

Well done Kiwimm - that's awesome discipline and commitment.

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The biggest driver for 'moving up' is to add bedrooms for a growing family. A couple who bought in 2013 likely has a materially smaller mortgage than a couple who bought five or six years ago - but that couple buying later is more likely to have put off buying a house until they could advance in their career far enough accumulate a deposit. 

So then the question becomes "how long in a starter home before family considerations push you into your next one?". I'd suggest that is more likely affected people who bought from 2016-onwards already if they actually want to have more than one child, and the 2013 cohort will skew your information drastically away from being relevant to the market that next-home-buyers are operating in.

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Buy a home.. No need to upgrade but instead put money in to good schooling of kids and make the next generation educated. 

Really one only needs a roof and a bed. Rest all is good to have but not a need. 

Good proper education is the basic need to ensure we have next generation of decent humans, not ram raiders. 

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The biggest driver for 'moving up' is to add bedrooms for a growing family.

Yes. But it's also about trade offs. Both bedrooms and kids are future financial commitments. Can you afford either or both?

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Can the country afford to keep making that choice harder and harder for the people they expect to juggle both at once by simply 'working harder'? 

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No, the pool of people who are both career and family orientated enough to both have enough income to get by without assistance, and provide stable and secure homes for our children is diminishing. We're hell bent on importing poverty.

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or moving to a better location. many people need to move closer to work,  schools or hospitals etc. many would start outskirt of city, then moving closer to inner city suburbs.

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It's what we did last year. Bought first home in 2016 in less than desirable location (to us). 

Had two kids since, upgraded last year, maybe a couple years before we could properly afford to as the oldest turned 5 this year and we had school to consider, so wanted to move to where we wanted to be during the school years. 

Means a gigantic mortgage during a crap time for it. But hopefully we can continue to earn more, get out of daycares eventually, and have some money back lol. 

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Well done, I hope you're happy with your new house and I wish you all the best   :-)

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Thank you! 

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"The biggest driver for 'moving up' is to add bedrooms for a growing family"

That's heck of an assumption, what about moving to a better suburb or a better school zone?

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I mean... you still have all the overhead of kids in all those scenarios and the costs that come with them. Factor in 12% p.a. food increases,  daycare at $350pw per child and general other inflationary bullshit and you start to see a lot of competition for every dollar of people's net wages. 

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Or keeping up with the joneses.

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One of the irony's of rising property prices is it actually screws people all ready on the property ladder. As even though the value of there property increases with rising house price to income ratios the price of upgrading also increases. Case in point. Lets say in 1980 the average household income is $100,000. The average house price is $300,000 (3x household income). If you want to upgrade to a second home the price  is $600,000, for a final (luxuary home) the price is $900,000. This is all manaegable with enough hard work.

You buy your first home for $300,000

Overnight hourse prices triple (to today's absurd rates). Great news! Your house is now worth $900,000! You are almost a millionaire. However there's a catch. Your wife is proggo with baby number 3 and wants a bigger house. Time to upgrade to your second home. Here's the problem. The second home has also tripled in price. What would have cost you an extra $300,000 yesterday ($600,000 - $300,000) now costs you can extra $900,000 ($1,800,000- $1,800,000)  However you still only earn $100,000 so you can not afford.

In essence you are now stuck in your first home with a grumpy wife. But don't worry the government will feed you the propaganda that you are in fact richer than yesterday even though you can't afford the second home. 

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Yep - retirees I know are coming to terms to the fact that their house is not worth what they thought it was, and is surprisingly illiquid. Meanwhile have spent 45 years making mortgage payments. I don't have the heart to tell them it was all a facade.

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Terrible assumptions and poor math make your example a waste of time donny11. And if your now 70+ yo wife is pregnant then you have bigger problems than being stuck in an old house.

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You are right actually Bad math's by me. The cost of an upgrade will jump to $1,800,000 so an extra $900,000. Nevertheless, my point stands people sort of get stuck on the ladder as the price of going from 1st to 2nd home jumps from $300,000 to $900,000. Your first home becoming your last home (assuming you can afford your first home) is becoming normal for my generation irregardless of hard you work.

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Donny, your wage and first house price examples are more like the early 2000s. In 2000 $900,000 would have bought you a farm with a luxury house. By 2010 a luxury home was still only $1,000,000 ( outside Auckland).
 

Yes $1,000,000 is a lot of money, people need to remember that. Buying a $2,700,000 property was for very highly paid executives, business people or professionals, what has happened in the last ten years is that so much money has been made from trading houses this amount seems ordinary to some.

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So, in essence Donny, you completely refute Greg's article above (I hope you have read it) and you propose your own figures as being more relevant to Greg's… I'll stick with Greg's figures, thanks.

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Something I've been trying to put my finger on each time I've read these reports is the "years to save deposit". I realise this is based on several assumptions, however what would be more representative of FHB in a position to buy in the current market would be "years to _have saved_ a deposit", given that to buy at todays prices on todays incomes, the FHB would have had to have been saving for x years up until this point, and not using todays figures as a starting point. A much more difficult metric to assume, but would mean 2-3 years saving in the 20-25 year income bracket, then 3-5 years saving in the 25-29 year income bracket.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that for a 29 year old FHB to buy today on their own accord they would have had to be saving religiously for about a decade. Since they left school, no tertiary education, no crappy first jobs. Straight into that good earning capacity and strict budgeting for a decade.

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I have raised this several times before but have got nowhere with it 😂 the editors seem to be holding the line on some pretty heroic assumptions.

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I've seen (and heard) quite a few people upgrading or moving up the properties ladder from Auckland to Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth, Gold Coast and some cases, Melbourne.

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Hahahaha...gold...Gold Coast. Sell the ponzi and buy value...

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Gold Coast is nice. Perfect climate, nice urban design. They are currently extending lightrail to Burleigh Heads. You can get a 3 bedroom apartment for 750k. If you are a young kiwi couple and can get a job there that pays 25% more than here. I say move.

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Its where I am considering moving to, after having lived in Melbourne for 13 years.  The GC is beautiful, water views from just about everywhere, only an hour out of Brisbane, two airports to choose from, great weather, and everywhere has a swimming pool.  What's not to like? 

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Beer prices

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I've nearly paid off my mortgage but I'm really not planning on getting another one. It would be nice to have a bigger house, but it literally means another 20 years of work when I could use that time and income for something else. I just don't value more house that much.

In previous years people would do an  extension to the house. But I've heard of 7k per square meter in AKL, so to get anything substantial done would require another mortgage.

Maybe one of those outdoor rooms with louvre roof or something will keep family happy and I can save up for that. And or bribe them with a trip to Fiji.

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Good on you for almost having paid off your mortgage!  Do what makes you happy, if you don't want to move, then don't.

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I know some people that did a villa extension that cost 1.2 million. It was beautifully done, no corners cut and included one of those tiny urban pools,  However all in all they only added about 60sqm to their house.... 

I'm in the same boat. Tentatively looking for an upgrade. But for what you pay and what you get by way of upgrade the numbers do not stack up. Better off just spending the "upgrade money" on enjoying life, restaurants, overseas trips, new toys etc. I feel in Auckland you are better off to use the space you have more efficiently than pay for more space. Given the cost of more space (the upgrade).

My latest ploy is to buy a removal truck and park it on the street for extra space. Seams cheaper than upgrading the house. Local government also provides you with free space for you to park your truck. My neighbours will love me. 

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I guess some people put a sign on their truck and then park it on the main road in front of their shop. 

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20k per square metre? I know it's probably high end. But wow.

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$20k per m2 is commonly called a RIPOFF. Unless it was floor to ceiling Italian marble or similar. They would have been better off building a second dwelling or simply buying another home (like a bach or an apartment). 

That builder would have been laughing all the way to the bank. They probably pocketed a sweet $500k profit for 4 months work.  

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Sounds more like the purchasers didn't question the bill appropriately. I know of someone who got itemised quotes in the last year for a reno and grilled each and every quote for excessive crap that was in it, then gone with the most honest and realistic builder. Most of the builders couldn't explain much of what they had put in their quotes, because they were already rorting every other client.

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I'd have been mortgage free on my first home last year (bought in 2013) but we borrowed more to build a 115sqm extension turning our 218sqm 2 bedroom place into a 328sqm 4 bedroom family home (I have a 150sqm internal access garage, so that skews the sqm numbers, the house part was a small 2beddy). All up cost was $620k so $5.3k/sqm. That sounds like a lot and ours was of higher-mid-range quality (very nice but not extravagant) but for that we completely relocated the kitchen and renovated, re-clad and double glazed the existing house.

I project managed and did all the plumbing and drainage work and built/installed the kitchen so would have been probably approaching $680-700k. That was 4-5 years ago though so with building inflation you can probably add another $150k-200k to that figure now for the same job.

It did mean probably another 10 years or so of paying a mortgage, but it turned my bachelor pad into a family home we can stay in and raise our family in long term. It also meant I got to keep my garage, which I'd have struggled to find anywhere in central-ish Auckland

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Interesting data Gregg. A bit more proof of the “broken” market. Here in Wairarapa:

lower quartile house price….   $400,000

median house price….             $440,000

Nothing at all is selling except the cheapest houses.

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Have noticed some desperation in the Ray White Wairarapa weekly email rounds.  Up until February this year the subject line was "Weekly Listings Update".  Now it's "BEST VALUE properties are right here!!!".  

The content has also changed.  They used to just send an email showing the latest properties.  But by early February that had grown from 2 - 3 properties to 12 to 15.  The email is now broken into "Latest Listings" and "Last Week's Listings".  

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the killer of the Wairarapa is not the house price but the council rates.

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Totally agree, some amalgamation is needed here for a number of reasons.

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The slump in the regions is well behind Auckland and Wellington 

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Watch Turangi crash

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High interest rates and DTi are a great combination. Laughed when reading a recent investor meeting were presented the impact and non of them had never heard of it or understood the impact. Final paragraph..."I will buy now to avoid". No thought that on the rollover of any loan it will apply to the lending.

Some people really need saving from themselves.

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/43820

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Good on you for being interested in the "investor meetings".

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Stopped reading after "With the house price slump at its end point".

There's always a logical explanation to an illusionists trickery. In this case, it's that they claim they know something but really have no idea.

Guess the next several months of trending HPI will make it clear whether it's finished or not. My reckon is that it has not.

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Hi Greg, what a great idea to assess the affordability of existing home owners to upgrade to a better house, well done!

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You need to factor in the age at which people purchase their first property.

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This is spooky to think even people who bought 10 years ago, who (potentially) made huge capital gains, still need to borrow more than what they paid for their former house, and dedicate more than 25% of their after tax income, just to buy an average house today.

Should we really rejoice at that situation?

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Well these home owners could sell and rent and just keep, invest or spend their "deposit of between $359,000 and $381,000 (depending on whether they purchased their first home with a 10% or 20% deposit)".  I think that's something to rejoice about !

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Where does that money come from I wonder.

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The national lower quartile selling price increased from $275,000 in May 2013 to $580,000 in May 2023 and that's after allowing for the decline in prices since the lower quartile price peaked at $670,000 in November 2021.  Between May 2013 and May 2023 the REINZ's national median price doubled, increasing from $390,000 to $780,000

Sure looks close to a doubling of prices in 10 years, despite the drop over the last 18 months.

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Meanwhile wages are up ~50% in the same period (loose research here), I'd suggest based on that in a functional market today we'd have the buying power for a lower quartile of around $415k. Perhaps lower if rates persist or go higher. We'd have to wash out all of the cash sloshing about in the private sector first though - seems to be a lot of it out there.

I'm not suggesting I think that's where the housing market will end up. I have no idea. Long ago predicted 50% real decrease, and I stand by that still.

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This graph suggests close to 50 % off the peak for NZ if we consider UK as a worst case scenario. UK 'real' prices are similar to what they were in 2007. Here is another plot that's informative. It shows % per anum price movement by quarter. This graph rarely goes negative for long.

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True.  That's probably due to the 2 year fixed mortgage rate falling from 5.5% to 2.5% over that period.  

So now the 2 year average fixed mortgage rate is 6.5%.  What do you think will happen?  

https://www.interest.co.nz/charts/interest-rates/fixed-mortgage-rates

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We're talking about a 10 year period NZDan, interest rates being temporarily at a high of 6.5% will drag prices down further over the short term, but it will have very little relevance over 10 years.  In 10 years time, if you look back at an interest rate chart, you will see a short sharp spike in interest rates followed by an equally abrupt drop back down.

This will be the case not because I say so, but simply because the world being submerged by immense debt, cannot cope with interest rates at current levels.

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It's actually much more likely that house prices in 10 years time will be 5-10 times higher than today, not because they have increased in value, but because money has devalued, meaning that a loaf of bread will probably cost NZD 50.  So not really better off in a way, except if you have a mortgage, because your mortgage of say 1 Million today will by then, be no more than your annual salary.

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If that level of inflation is caused by government spending on productive industry, then that would be great news! 1250% CPI inflation ($4 loaf of bread anyone?) driven by wage increases, ~750% HPI inflation (7.5x). So a real 40% decrease in house prices from here.

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by Yvil | 26th Jun 23, 4:52pm

It's actually much more likely that house prices in 10 years time will be 5-10 times higher than today, not because they have increased in value, but because money has devalued, meaning that a loaf of bread will probably cost NZD 50.  So not really better off in a way, except if you have a mortgage, because your mortgage of say 1 Million today will by then, be no more than your annual salary.

 

Let's put some numbers to this: 

10 year returns of the following scenarios:

1) house price in 10 years is 5 times today

House price of 1,000,000 today

House price of 5,000,000 (5x) in 10 years is annual growth of 17.46% p.a

2) house price in 10 years is 10 times today

House price of 1,000,000 today

House price of 10,000,000 (10x) in 10 years is annual growth of 25.89% p.a.

 

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So we'll lower interest rates to avoid any sort of crash or recession?

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Countries will have no choice Solid Granite, governments are broke, the USA, NZ and many more cannot repay their debts  China is in crisis with huge property developers falling over.  Banks are insolvent if they value bonds, commercial and residential properties are their correct valuations of today (and stocks soon).  Families will follow soon.  I'm sorry it's a terrible picture but it's today's reality.  

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Very chance rates could go down again.  But how will that support a doubling in 10 years?  The last "doubling" happened when interest rates fell to 2.5%.  How would house prices double again from then?  A $500k mortgage at 2.5% = $2k per month.  If you dropped the interest rate to 0.1%, then your repayments would be $1.4k per month.  Hardly supportive of another doubling cycle. 

Note, it would be disingenuous to call it another "doubling" event if rates fell back to 2.5% and prices doubled, because that would be just unwinding a fall.  

 

 

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See my comment above at 4:52

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Right, I glazed over that comment.  So yes, nominal house prices could double in 10 years but everything else including wages will also more or less double, where housing as a means of generating "wealth" over and above say returns in a term deposit is no longer viable so people won't be parking cash in housing.

As you mention, the debt will be inflated away which is a good thing for young borrowers.  

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But first they have to pass the mortgage servicing test at 10% interest rates.  And have enough disposable income to qualify for the mortgage, which is difficult to do when you now have kids to support.  Which is why upgraders are disappearing from the market, they are locked in to their existing mortgages because they don't qualify for larger loans.

The calculation also doesnt take into account upgrading the type of home or location. The lower and median prices include apartments, cross lease units, and multi site townhouses, which lower the median price.  But someone upgrading from a small flat or townhouse isnt going to want any of those.  So what is relevant to them is the price of a free standing 3-4 bedroom home, with a good backyard and a double garage.  So I would suggest they would be paying higher than the median price for that kind of dwelling.  As for location, well now they have kids they need to be in a good school area, so again they will be paying more than the median price to do so. 

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All part of the plan K.W. ....drain as much money out of the economy as possible. Then assets, goods and services have to come back to realistic values, as compared with incomes....and the economy can finally grow and expand into other areas ......beside residential housing. 

And why do we hear not much about NZ commercial property ....I wonder who is "supporting" that with so many working from home ?  I know of companies sub leasing to other parties, but there must be a lot of empty office space

 

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Some office conversions in Wellington. Though advertised as "below market rent", if you actually check, they're above the market rent listed on tenancy.co.nz. Wonder who would pay $800pw for a small 2br apartment in an office. I'd rather loan a cool $40k for a converted van and live in that.

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"The calculation also doesnt take into account upgrading the type of home or location"

Yes it does KW, Greg makes it very clear that his figures are taken selling a lower quartile house and buyer a (better) average house.  In other words, indeed upgrading to a better home or location or possibly a bit of both.

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Owning a 2 bedroom apartment in the city and buying a 3 bedroom apartment in the city would be an example of simply moving quartiles. Owning an apartment in the city and buying a 4 bedroom free standing house in a good school area is not simply moving from the lower quartile to the second quartile.  That type of property is more likely to be in the third quartile.  So no, the example doesnt take account the typical home that an upgrader is looking for, which is a lot more expensive than the second lowest quartile prices.

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Great comments

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With the current market I think there is a much better chance of making a conditional offer on a new home.  Would also suit people who want to move to  a new area of move from country or lifestyle to city living.

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I think the current turgid property market is still moving due to folks selling and buying in the same market (as the drops don't really affect people when buying and selling in the same market). 

We have been actively looking, going to open homes/viewings etc for the last 8 months. Almost every property we viewed had an accepted offer, that had fallen through due to the buyer not being able to sell their home (expecting Nov '21 prices when selling). Lots of vendors then fixate on that first offer price expecting the same or better, failing to realize that the failed offer was based on fantastical numbers that are no longer achievable. 

Of the properties that we have put unsuccessful offers on, or viewed, only about 20% have ended up selling. The rest have been withdrawn or continue to sit on the market. A few switched real estate companies hoping for a different result - yet keeping their expectations beyond the market - they continue to languish. 

Inflation is expected to be over 7% at the next release. I think the next inflation number will dictate what will become of the housing market, a higher than expected CPI number will likely result in large scale price drops as the OCR will need to be raised. Alternatively, if the CPI number is less than expectations, we could be looking at elevated housing transactions (but not likely to see any price increases till 2024 at the earliest. 

The savvy FHB's will be increasing their downpayment savings, while renting at well below ownership costs (It is still 30%+ cheaper to rent than buy in most cases currently). 

 

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Few comments about housing vs Bitcoin on here.

I've owned BTC for ten years and every year has outperformed NZ housing and has no counter party risk.  I have 3 children and all of them have hardware wallets, they understand how Bitcoin works and they understand that the NZ housing ponzi is a fools errand. 

Sooner or later the younger generation are going to switch to the better performing asset, its only a matter of time.

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