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Treasury cuts NZ economic growth forecasts due to Euro crisis; GDP growth in yr to March 2013 closer to 3% than 3.4% forecast in PREFU

Treasury cuts NZ economic growth forecasts due to Euro crisis; GDP growth in yr to March 2013 closer to 3% than 3.4% forecast in PREFU

Prime Minister John Key is still musing about returning the government's books to surplus a year earlier than forecast, despite a worsening European sovereign debt crisis today forcing Treasury to cut the growth forecasts for New Zealand's economy that it gave in its pre-election update (PREFU).

The cut to Treasury's GDP forecasts for the year to March 2013 from 3.4% to closer to 3%, as well as for subsequent years, came after figures showed showed the government's deficit in the four months to October 31 was 4.1% worse than forecast in the PREFU, which was released on October 25.

In the PREFU document, Treasury warned of key risks stemming from the European crisis, which could lead to downward revisions of its forecasts. Finance Minister Bill English this morning said the outlook for the European situation had deteriorated since the PREFU, but that the government was still committed to returning the books from a deficit of NZ$18.4 billion in the year to June 2011 to a forecast surplus of NZ$1.45 billion in 2014/15.

English pointed to higher-than-expected corporate tax revenue in the four months to October as a bright spot among the figures. Key later on Monday pointed to the latest fall in unemployment in the United States as a reason to be optimistic about the global situation, and ventured to repeat his desire to return the books to surplus in 2013/14, a year before Treasury's forecast.

However both noted there could be difficulties which could lead to tighter government spending in order to reach surplus in 2014/15, given the complexity and size of European situation.

Forecasts revised down

In its latest monthly economic indicators released on Monday afternoon, Treasury said PREFU assumed that European governments would manage the crisis without too much more damage to the real economy. However, "financial tensions have escalated and dragged down growth forecasts in the region and across our major trading partners."

"Although the outlook is still well above the indicative downside scenario outlined in PREFU, it has weakened to the extent that we now expect New Zealand’s economic growth in the year ending March 2013 to be closer to 3% than the 3.4% we had forecast in the Pre-election Update," Treasury said.

"It is likely that growth will also be lower in subsequent years, but it is too early to judge how material those impacts might be.  We continue to expect the Canterbury rebuild to begin in earnest in the second half of 2012 and to provide an offset to global weakness. 

"Easier monetary conditions, through a lower exchange rate and a potential delay to the start of expected rises in the Official Cash Rate, will also provide some offset to a weaker world economy," it said.

"In the PREFU we noted that in the downside scenario tax revenue would be around NZ$14.5 billion lower across the four-year forecast period. Although we are still well away from the downside scenario, global economic risks have increased the chances of a downgrade to our revenue forecasts when the Treasury publishes its 2012 Budget Economic and Fiscal Update."

Still reasons to be optimistic

On Monday afternoon, while announcing a coalition deal with the ACT Party, Prime Minister John Key told media the downward revisions followed a similar move by the OECD, with the changes “at the margins”.

“They’re forecasts, so let’s see how it ultimately goes, but it’s not overly dramatic," Key said.

“Forecasts are wonderful things and they are a prediction of what may or may not occur. We’re the government, and so therefore we’ll get on and run the operation as best we can. That means being careful with how we spend money, it means trying to promote economic growth.

"Over the weekend you saw the US unemployment numbers dramatically improving, they’ve created quite a lot of jobs there in the last couple of months. Yes, it might all go to hell in a handbasket. If it does, we’ll manage it. But at the moment we’re a little bit more confident than others,” Key said.

“At the end of the day, if there’s some catastrophe in Europe and the place melts down, that changes the global economic outlook, there are always things that are beyond our control. But we are totally committed to trying to get back to surplus."

The year earlier – 2013/14 – Treasury was predicting a “very small deficit” before the books returned to surplus.

“In my view it’s still possible that we can get back to surplus that year,” Key said.

If things really went badly, the government had already indacated the first port of call in terms of a fiscal response was cutting the NZ$800 million new budget spending earmarked for the 2012 Budget.

Treasury is set to release a Budget Policy Statement, with some form of forecasts, in February. See last week’s article: No December update from Treasury for incoming govt due to PREFU; Incoming 2008 govt asked for one due to Lehman collapse, global turmoil.

(Updates with background, links, comments and video of reaction from PM John Key)

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22 Comments

Haha....we all told them when PREFU was released...NZ forecasts were overcooked!...here's a prediction - expect forecasts to be revised downwards again....you've got to wonder if Treasury put on rose coloured spectacles to help National in for another term....IMHO.

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Yeah just like the 'neutral' tax cuts where pretty much everyone ended up better off. What muppet at the treasury thought that everyone could end up paying less tax and yet tax revenue would stay the same? Turns out they were about $1bil off.

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I can't believe the audacity of these pricks to blatantly lie, and the ignorance of the sheep who gladly believe them.  Europe is going full blown recession, no doubt about it, this is going global, and Europe is a much bigger economy then the US.  Everyone is broke from the last great recssion a couple of years ago, where is the "stimulus" comming from this time around? 

Q. Whats the natural path out of a recession without "stimulus"?

A. War?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iKuMVqht4U 

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.... aha , blame the Europeans , right ! ..... no admission that you guys in the Treasury screwed up by being far too optimistic in the first place ..... hmmmm ?

Nasty Europeans , tch tch !

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Still the only country dumb enough to think we are going to have an interest rate rise in the future.

 

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Treasury didn't screw up, they provided exactly the rosy picture that Natioanl needed for the election.  isn't that their job?

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Give everyone five grand and let's start again, says King 01-12-11

THE global economy should be started again from scratch and everyone given £5,000 each, Mervyn King has claimed.

 

The governor of the Bank of England said he and his colleagues could keep trying different things but it was simply delaying the inevitable admission that this economy doesn't work anymore and we need to get another one.

The governor's latest stability report said the last hope was for banks to cut bonuses and increase their capital reserves, but the banks immediately rejected the idea as being 'far too helpful'.

King said: "That's it, I'm calling it. Time of death, 11.25am.

"As of this moment there is no economy. It's over. 'But Mervyn, what should we do now?' I hear you say.

"Well, what about, right, we cancel all the debts and all the savings and shit and we just say, 'okay, blank sheet of paper'?

"Then, right, everyone gets five grand a piece to spend on whatever they want."

He added: "Within a few weeks the people who are selling the best stuff will have more money so we'll know it's working and then we can just take it from there."

Economists said the idea had some merit, insisting the ad-hoc construction of a new global financial system did seem a lot easier than negotiating with Germans.

Asked how a universal 'starting wealth' of £5,000 would affect inflation and interest rates in the new economy, King said: "How the f..k should I know?"

 

 

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In what way does NZ benefit from allowing private ownership of the right to create credit?

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Stop taking those red pills Wolly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQF8LAmiaE  

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Wolly,

Has Iain hacked your blog account? What gives?

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Iain seemed a bit worn out Anarkist.....I figured he needed some help...

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hey don't give him such a hard time Wolly. We all need to believe that a better world is possible. The Social Credit programme is his favoured crutch. Mine is my anarchist utopia. We all need our illusions to keep us going. Some have alcohol, others have property bubbles.

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Ahh well brew day today. An American Wheat Beer already down, and a Dunkelweizen on the way:)

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Ahhh yes the Human weakness...always the crutch....!

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Not me ! .... no crutches in this bear's cave , no sirreee !!!

....... hmmmm , where's me pack of gummy-bears ? ....... where can they be . Had them a moment ago , .... bugger blast .........

Didyer shift them hon , huh ? ....... where's me gummies ....... you did , come on , where are they ? ....... freaking b*tch from h*ll !!!..... where's me f*cking gummies bears , I'll kill you , really I will ......

..... oooooops , there they are , under the newspaper ........

.... Sorry honey , love you ..... alright !

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Can someone please give me the words for PREFU, much obliged ta.

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Pre Election Economic and Fiscal Update, Should be PEEFU, or PEFU, what the hell is up with the R??

http://www.treasury.govt.nz/budget/forecasts/prefu2008 

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ohhhhhhh, PEEFU would be just too coarse and vulgar dear fellow!

It is a load of pee and #$% mind you!

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This guy is thick and/or lying " Key later on Monday pointed to the latest fall in unemployment in the United States as a reason to be optimistic about the global situation " The amount of BullSht in the US unemployment figures is greater then in NZ by an order of magnitude.

the number of individuals that have "fallen off" the rolls entirely due to running out of the ability to file for unemployment claims. Those individuals not counted as part of the labor force swelled by 487,000 to a record 86.5 million. This in turn led to a drop in the labor force participation rate to 64% from last months 64.2%. This is the lowest levels of labor force participation that we have seen since the early 1980's. This weakness is further confirmed by the duration of those out of work which climbed to a new record of 40.9 weeks.

TLDR version; real unemployment in the US going up and up.

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3% growth or 1.5% (NZIER) growth or something in between?  In actual fact, it doesn't matter much.  In respect to inflation, both forecasts are predicting 'negative growth', but that aside, if there is growth, then that is a good thing. 

Obviously 3% is better than 1.5%, but any number higher than zero is better than what you might expect to see in the US or UK or Japan.

The point is both forecasts are a distraction from the underlying issues for NZ.

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mmm... Aust Treasury might have to do the same on their forecast- RBA just cut their rate

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-06/rba-cuts-interest-rates/3714874

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Treasury and NZ economists downgrade “growth” forcasts…..what took them so long?

We are witnessing the end of “growth” at least as measured by the absurd measure of GDP

Watch listen and learn with this wee gem of a video   –  just 5 minutes

the proposition is taken further  here from a NZ perspective

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