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Angus Kebbell reviews the farmer joint submission to the Climate Change Commission and wonders why, if everyone agrees about the science, why is there disagreement about the targets?

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Angus Kebbell reviews the farmer joint submission to the Climate Change Commission and wonders why, if everyone agrees about the science, why is there disagreement about the targets?
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In September 2023, B+LNZ, Dairy NZ, and Federated Farmers jointly published a report addressing the warming impact of New Zealand's agricultural methane emissions.

The report emphasised that the current methane reduction targets, ranging from 24% to 47%, would effectively offset all expected additional warming caused by methane, CO2, and N2O emissions in the country. This would see New Zealand peak its warming around in the late 2030s, and reverse warming back to 2022-2027 temperature levels.

The primary purpose of the report was to contribute to the Climate Change Commission's (CCC) process regarding the review of New Zealand's 2050 climate targets.

 

This week I caught up with Dr Adrian Macey, professor at the New Zealand Climate Change Research Institute at Victoria University of Wellington. One of the most common refrains we hear in New Zealand is that agriculture is responsible for 60+% of the historic warming in NZ and therefore has a responsibility to undo some of its previous warming, I asked him for his thoughts on the historical warming argument.

“There's good facts around historical warming, and there is a very recent study done for the beef and lamb industry in New Zealand by Oxford University team who are the world leaders on methane. So you can see the whole history effect of New Zealand emissions, dating back to 1850. However, it's drawing a fairly long bow to say, because of the prominence of methane in our emissions historically, that now needs to be directly reflected in responsibilities today, on our current methane emitters, because, as we know, with methane, although the way the UN measures emissions, agriculture, including methane comes out about 50% of our emissions.”

“That measure is extremely inaccurate in terms of the long term warming of methane, which is what counts, it overstates it by about four times, also happens to understate the short term warming of methane. The second point is that if you're looking historically none of those emissions from 1850 to about, well, at least 1990, are actually still warming, they're actually only lasting in the atmosphere a rather short time, 12/15 years or so. So that's the difference with methane, A. Its warming is short lived, B. If what we're trying to do is get New Zealand to stop warming the planet to get to climate neutrality, for methane, Lets say you've got a herd of 1000 cows, lets say you've been emitting constant methane for the last 15/20 years with your 1000 cows. Now, if you want to get to climate neutrality, which we define as not adding to global warming, ceasing, adding to global warming, so nothing that you're doing is actually increasing the global temperature. What you do with your 1000 cows, you would reduce your emissions by about 0.3% per year. And that gets you to climate neutrality, the big difference between methane emissions and co2 emissions, I can also include in nitrous oxide emissions and co2, they are a long term gas as well. Until you actually stop, that means get to zero emissions of co2, you are still adding to warming. The equivalent in terms of climate neutrality between methane and co2 is methane, minus 0.3% a year, co2 Zero. That's the equivalent of climate neutrality. And if you reduce methane below 0.3%, you are actually reducing global temperatures compared with what they're trending towards. “

“So most countries, this target of 100% reduction by 2050, net zero by 2050, that, for most countries who've got that target means that they will get to climate neutrality by 2050, let's say at 2050. And at that point, they will have had to stop emitting co2 Or if they are emitting it, they will have to offset it capture it some way. And it looks for New Zealand for our current targets, we would probably get to climate of net neutrality for the country if our current targets are all met somewhat before 2050.”

One of the CCC requirements to trigger a review of the methane is that there is new science.  

Our three organisations contend that the research represents new science, thereby triggering the review.  

Simon Upton, the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment (PCE), has responded to the report saying it does not represent new science as some of the results were in a report written by Andy Reisinger for the PCE in 2018.

What is positive is that Simon Upton is not disputing the results in the Oxford/Cranfield report, he is mainly arguing it was not new. 

In our view the report does still represent a significant advance in the scientific understanding.

The 2018 Andy Resinger research referred to by Simon Upton just looked at what reductions in methane were needed for methane to not add additional warming.  It found a range of 10-22 percent reduction in methane would see methane not add anymore warming from 2017.  The Oxford/Cranfield research found a 15-27% reduction in methane would see it not add any additional warming from 2020.  This was just a small proportion of the Oxford/Cranfield research. 

The primary purpose of the Oxford/Cranfield research was to assess the warming impact of the current methane targets in the Zero Carbon Act. 

In 2019 when New Zealand set its targets there was very little understanding of the warming impact of methane.  When the 24-47% reduction targets for methane were set, the media and NGOs said that agriculture had been let off the hook.

The Oxford/Cranfield research clearly shows that this is not the case.  It shows that under these targets methane would be reversing previous warming and the “cooling” effect from these reductions would offset all expected new warming from carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide between now and 2050.

As far as we are aware, this analysis was not done when the New Zealand targets were set, or at least they were not made public to allow the public to understand the impact of the targets and whether they are fair.

The Oxford/Cranfield research shows that the impact of the current methane targets would see New Zealand peak its warming in the late 2030s and reverse back to 2022-27 levels.  No other country in the world is looking to achieve this kind of temperature reduction.  They are mainly aiming to get to no additional warming (net zero) by 2050.

The research allows us to have a conversation as to whether New Zealand should be aiming for this ambitious an objective.

The current methane targets were taken from an IPCC report released in 2019. The Oxford/Cranfield research notes that the IPCC said at the time that these targets should not be used as national targets.  The IPCC 24-47% methane range was also modelled using GWP100.

In 2019, the science underpinning the Andy Resinger report was still very new.  It was not until 2021 that these concepts were included in the IPCC’s Sixth Assessment Report (AR6). That IPCC report specifically recognised that GWP100 overstated the warming impact of methane by a factor of 3-4 if methane was stable, and understated the impact of methane if methane was increasing. 

If everyone agrees about the science, why is there disagreement about the targets?

The Oxford/Cranfield report has significantly improved the public understanding of the science. There is no longer much argument about the science.

The key sticking point is how to apply that science in a policy context.

The key difference is that some people (like Andy Resinger) believe that because methane in New Zealand has contributed 60% of the warming to date then it should be required to undo some of that previous warming.

In our view this is not justified.  In most other countries CO2 has contributed 60% of warming to date and CO2 only needs to get to no additional warming (net zero) in 2050.  It gets to add more and more new warming out to 2050.

The science shows that modest reductions in methane would see it not contribute any additional warming from today, which is better than no additional warming from 2050.  Why should methane be required to reverse previous warming and “cool”.

Another objective of the Oxford/Cranfield research was to improve the understanding of what is being asked of different greenhouse gases from a warming perspective, to inform a discussion of what the methane targets should be. It has been a frustrating process trying to engage the Government on a warming-based approach to the issues. Disconnects between emissions and their respective warming have persisted.

The new Government could direct CCC

It is possible the CCC may decide that the “new science” trigger has not been reached, if it takes a purist approach to the definition of “new science”, despite the fact that understanding of this science in 2019 was very shallow and therefore led to a sub-optimal methane target.  It therefore makes sense to review the targets and have a proper debate with the New Zealand public about what each sector should be asked to do from a warming perspective.

Cumulative Impact of Policy

A new government and coalition will require some time to find areas of shared agreement concerning agricultural policies. Nevertheless, it is clear that all coalition members agree that change is needed to many of the environmental policies introduced by the previous Government.

B+LNZ recently released a report on the cumulative impact of policy on farmers, which supports the view that the previous Government’s regulations are imposing too high a bar both in terms of cost and time on farmers, far in excess of what is needed to achieve the desired environmental outcomes and amendments are needed.

This, coupled with the misalignment of ETS policies, has led to a substantial transformation of the landscape of farming in New Zealand in the last few years, including large scale sales of S+B farms for harvest and carbon forestry.

It will be important not to walk away from some of the environmental issues facing farmers, however.  We need to find enduring solutions to some of the big challenges (e.g water quality) rather than just throwing them all out in a rush to reduce costs or administrative burden.

The worst outcome would be for agriculture to face the same situation in 3-6 years time if there were a change of Government. 

Though environmental advocacy groups may predict impending doom in the years to come and claim that farmers are resistant to change, B+LNZ's report clearly indicates that the pace of change has been too rapid and that in the rush to get all of these rules in place mistakes have been made.

More effort is required to collaborate with farmers and facilitate the improvement of these rules, rather than imposing an excessively heavy burden they cannot bear.

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Angus Kebbell is the Producer at Tailwind Media. You can contact him here.

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Does the Oxford/Cranfield report really have credibility??

Most methane is eventually transformed to long lasting CO2, and you get ozone depletion, hydrochloric acid formation and increased upper level H2O, as well as formaldehyde because of atmospheric methane degradation

This appears to contribute to warming.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane       natural sinks

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Indicate separate contributions of long-lived and short-lived greenhouse gases in emission targets

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-021-00226-2#MOESM1

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Kiwichas - you are entirely correct. 

The above article seems to bury a few simple truths, in an outpouring of words which few will read right through. One asks: Why? 

At base-line, all NZ farming is the process of turning fossil energy into food energy - and in those terms, doing it fairly inefficiently (somewhere between 10 and 30 calories of fossil energy, to produce one calorie of food - and the fossil energy is finite). Yes, some of the resulting carbon comes via methane, some from the tractor exhaust, truck exhaust, etc etc - but the overall process is unmaintainable in present form. 

Which makes all this avoidance/posturing/finger-pointing - totally pointless (like that finger-pointing upthread re Simon Upton; this is science, not personalities; we seen to have lost the ability to think logically). 

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Absolutely agree; and while it is against my religion to agree with James Shaw ( of the not really Green at all party, more crimson red) I think most can see that less methane would be a good thing, despite the CO2 it turns into being partly resorbed as part of the carbon cycle.

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But of course, these are empirical arguments put forward to advance the theory that human-induced (as opposed to naturally-induced) climate change is the problem that needs solving.  But no one empirically measures (to my knowledge), naturally-induced methane emissions.

I've always wondered what percentage of all methane entering our atmosphere is human-induced via ruminant farm animals belching vs naturally-induced via decay and other organic, non-commercial processes..

Just curious.

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i think if you look at some of the RNZ articles interviews on wetlands / peatlands you might find some indirect answers. a professor At Waikato on the Kopurahi (sp?) wetland in Hauraki has been measuring for some years . 

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NASA has satellites measuring methane emissions plumes worldwide which I assume would capture that. What particular sources would you see as naturally occurring and significant?

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Actually, it is measured. By satellite images you can see clouds of methane. Methane from human processes are significant globally. 

 

https://niwa.co.nz/atmosphere/research-projects/methanesat-detecting-an….

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Nonsense. Pasture based grazing is a net carbon sink. As is the New Zealand biosphere. Multi paddock grazing systems suck up "6.65 kg CO2-e /kg carcass weight". The energy come from photosynthesis not Texas shale. 

"Adaptive multi-paddock grazing can sequester large amounts of soil C.

Emissions from the grazing system were offset completely by soil C sequestration"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308521X17310338

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Yes, if paddocks are managed in the right way they can be CO2 sinks. However, this is like saying that if you have a sip of water with your 8 pints of beer you won't get as drunk. The net emissions of milk and beef production are still off the chart relative to the kind of foods that we will actually be eating in 20 years time.  

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No. The paper is a life cycle analysis. Using your beer analogy it is the equivalent of drinking eight pints of of beer and being more sober than when you walked in to the pub - to the tune of -6.65kg of CO2e per kg carcass weight. 

The Oxford work didn't look at Soil Carbon but reached this conclusion:

"Even more strikingly, if an individual herd’s methane emissions are falling by one third of one percent per year (that’s 7/2100, so the two terms cancel out) – which the farmers I met seemed confident could be achieved with a combination of good husbandry, feed additives and perhaps vaccines in the longer term – then that herd is no longer adding to global warming."

Once soil carbon is included in the LCA things go negative.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ideasroom/a-climate-neutral-nz-yes-its-possi…

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-021-00226-2#MOESM1

 

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Pastoral farming can only help to a point, then maxes out. It's nonsense to measure CO2eq sequestered per unit of meat for anything but an extremely short term study as the LCA results are nothing more than creative accounting.

It's simple if you think about it... Where does the carbon go? The only carbon sink option available for pasture farming is via increasing soil organic carbon levels or storing carbon in shelterbelt trees.

Labile carbon can be increased through farm management changes, but the soil carbon fluxes eventually reach a quasi-equilibrium maximum at the new, higher organic matter level (when averaging for temperature, rainfall, sunlight changes).

After that maximum is reached, you can't sequester more carbon via the pasture unless you add a different, long lived sink into the equation, like biochar.

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Published LCA, and the Oxford research, is useful for demonstrating to Chicken Littles, like PDK and Jfoe, pastoral agriculture is not the gross emission monster they think it is  - as the net position is benign/sober.

Sure, mineral soils can’t absorb carbon forever – that is where our 6 million km2 continental shelf is useful as seashell deposition can continue unabated as the sea floor can’t be saturated. 20 tonnes/km2/year sucks up our annual fuel consumption - so no small beer.  

Given the pitiful net/sink position of pastoral agriculture methane it surely must be only made the bogey man for political reasons.

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kiwichas,

All methane is converted to water and CO2, but the additional CO2 adds perhaps 2ppm to the present level of some 420ppm. If you doubt the Oxford study, you might want to take it up with David Frame or Adrian Macey, 2 NZ scientists who took part in it.

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Norwegian milk company market a low methane milk utilising Bovaer. Perverse outcomes on the front lines of the war on climate change.

https://www.feednavigator.com/Article/2023/07/05/dsm-firmenich-Bovaer-h…

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Does Prof Adrian not know that NZ's out-sized contribution to historic global emissions is because we cleared all the carbon-eating forest to create farmland? Good grief. Maybe Angus and the Prof should listen to Gareth Vaughan's excellent interview with Christina Hood (who knows more than just about anyone in NZ about this stuff).

Pasture grazed meat and industrial dairy are sunset industries. 

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The hardly-coherent stream-of-consciousness in the article, isn't what I would expect at Professor level. Takes me back to the Rowarth days, and I'm left asking the same question: Why? 

Usually when academia goes soft, it's a case of bums on seats, or salary funding (sort of the same thing) overriding dispassionate science. 

As you say, baselines are always good places to start. 

This is a good read: https://ruralleaders.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/David-Eade_Resign…

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As a relatively young person, I've seen this happen all too often and the parochialism from the old guard is often an embarrassing disservice to our public funding investments in climate related areas.

I've seen scientists in positions of influence offering platitudes and false advice that serves their research area but is patently false and makes no reference to the latest literature.

Their own research may be solid, but the interpretation and communication of the research of others is shockingly poor

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Jfoe you are starting to sound like PBK and both arguments are bollocks - pasture grazed meats and dairy are not sunset industries - and you should stay away from the Greenpeace industrial definition

The global population will continue to consume both products just like it has for thousands of years - as individuals in first world countries we can and should reduce our personal consumption but others in mid range countries will increase theirs -  we are after all not vegetarian by nature or design and their diets are still deficient. We can also eat less and waste less but those are still only marginal reductions in the food production carbon cycle

So solving a global problem the question is  - are we more carbon efficient or less so than others - if the global population needs some of these products do they come from NZ or Holland or some where else that may have a better carbon footprint

Same with beef - sure we could eat chicken given its lower footprint but we cannot all do that all the time -so who is the most efficient beef producer

One of the problems identified is that these have become political processes not scientific ones and nobody is calling out the political rubbish that is being spouted as fact.

For example there is absolutely no way that European countries - but basically anyone - will get to net zero by 2050 without cutting their energy use such that the population freezes or starves (or both) given the level of fossil fuel use embedded in their transport and electricity networks and their food production systems. It is where we have got to over the last 100 years and it wont be unwound in 25

 

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Don't misquote me, and you need to think more logically. 

First, don't use arrogance to drive your thinking. The parallel is the upper-deck Titanic passengers; lots of self-importance, but the physics of hypothermia overrode social stratification. Translated: The physics of finite fossil energy, and the physics of burning/excreting it in a 200-year frenzy, have unavoidable repercussions. 

One of those, is the result of growing our population (and our first-world rate of consumption, including our food system) atop that finite resource. Back-casting your projections from an assumption - that Europe will continue first-world-style 'consuming', in your posit above - is invalid logic. It is akin to drawing up the A-Deck menue for tomorrow, 20 minutes after the iceberg collision.

Put that another way - I shouldn't be able to guess you're a farmer, or associated with farming as practiced, from your posts. It's quite an interesting exercise, divesting self from thought. 

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Christina is a legend

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For nigh on 40 years agriculture in NZ has been cast as a sunset industry. What the heck have those naysayers done to substitute export income generation?

If there was even a smidgen of truth in that, why would mercenary capitalist interests want to break up the dairy and Kiwifruit industries to enable open, non-farmer supplier linked ownership?

For those 40 years, there has been no major new industry development in NZ that replaces export income earnings on a scale anywhere near what the primarysectorcontributestothe well-being of each of us.  There have been some great potential initiatives in the tech industry but as far as I can see they've been sold offshore. One may be able to sell the title to NZ land offshore (I disagree with such policy) but those new owners can't pack that land up and take it back with them  to another country.

Tell me what new initiatives outside of primary land/ocean based industry that generates anything approaching the level of export earnings to keep the lights on here.

Tourism? Shite, if you believe agriculture is dirty, take a really deep look into the GWP of that sector. I argue tourism is probably the least sustainable, high emissions generator (if emissions in international waters and airspace are fully accounted to individual traveller), "export" earner.

 

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Our whole system was unsustainable, as in: unmaintainable. 

That means we need to re-jig both finance, and agriculture, before physics and mother nature do it for us. That link I put up above;

https://ruralleaders.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/David-Eade_Resign…

is an interesting beginning from a not-silly intellect. 

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How much greenhouse gas does farming contribute relative to internal combustion in NZ?  I would have thought that our reliance on petrol would be far easier to mitigate quickly.  As such, encouraging people to use smaller fuel efficient cars instead of large SUVs via the clean car rebate (and penalties) was quite a good policy.  Also good for reducing how much money we spend importing petrol.

 

Even better will be if we can shift people out of cars completely for some of their trips.

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The country appears to have elected a Nact government and is basically telling you to stick those woke ideas where the sun don't shine.

Makes so much long term sense but really the population doesn't give a damn. So much more politically easier to focus on methane.

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Polarized - but neither addressing the big picture. 

Steerage, First-Class, Sinking. 

This is an important piece - https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2015/04/programmed-to-ignore/   

which I've posted before. It might explain why 70% of the population are MIA. Unfortunately, that magnifies in peer-groupings - for instance, Radio New Zealand, I suspect, is more like 95% MIA, and about to get worse. Fed Farmers is an obvious in the other direction. So we have an increasingly polarized society, nobody in the 'middle' anymore, both ends 'wrong' in terms of the big picture. Doesn't bode well. After that System collapses - which it must - there needs to be local leadership with global understanding; no small ask. 

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It would appear that most people think that climate change is a bad thing. But not so bad that they should actually alter their behavior to try and stop it...

 

Definitely easier to blame those pesky farmers. 

 

 

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How much of farming is internal combustion? 

:)

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https://www.farmersweekly.co.nz/farm-management/dairy-farmers-drop-cows…

Reduced cows making more money , who would have thought. 

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So many farms are ripe for development in this direction.weve spent the last 100 plus years trying to grow grass on every available piece of dirt within the farm boundaries and in many cases failed badly as only a percentage of the area actually paid back the fertilizer and energy put in.

Embrace the change.

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"West said putting the trees into the Emissions Trading Scheme to get carbon-averaged cashflow also makes the move easier."

Welcome to climate change world where money is taken off Auckland factory workers every time they fill their tank, and given to landed gentry dairy farmers so they can carbon bludge. 

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Welcome to a world where a lot of self-justifying people come up against hard planetary limits, but who are too short-of-perception to ascertain the problem. . 

 

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PDK is this any different from what has happened over recorded history. In the past those planetary limits were often local climate (or disease) related and populations were decimated.

Now its fossil fuel sourced energy and when we have burnt through whats available there will be famine and populations will be wiped out - simple calculation really as planet cannot produce enough food without fossil fuel derived fertilizers to feed 8-10 billion people. the impact on biodiversity might be extreme getting to that point 

or maybe someone with real smarts will come up with an alternative which is not here yet. I would put my money (f I was a betting man) on this coming from a market place rather than a political leadership team where there are to many conflicting interests

Meantime I see food production as far from a sunset industry - in fact the opposite, where even a decline in output without FF fertilizers will still be profitable product to produce

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Most of the worlds crops are grown to feed animals. If it came down to it , we could feed alot more people if they ate those crops directly. 

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