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A review of things you need to know before you sign off on Thursday; more homes sell at a loss, more milk price cuts, farmers grumpier, less concrete poured, swaps steepen, NZD on hold, & more

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A review of things you need to know before you sign off on Thursday; more homes sell at a loss, more milk price cuts, farmers grumpier, less concrete poured, swaps steepen, NZD on hold, & more

Here are the key things you need to know before you leave work today (or if you already work from home, before you shutdown your laptop).

MORTGAGE/LOAN RATE CHANGES
HSBC has raised the rate on its only fixed home loan offer by +10 bps to 7.19%.

TERM DEPOSIT/SAVINGS RATE CHANGES
HSB also raised its few very short term deposit rates by between +15 bps and +20 bps.

MORE HOMES SELL AT A LOSS
CoreLogic says the proportion of residential properties being sold at a loss is on the rise. They say more than one-in-10 of the residential properties being sold in Auckland and Hamilton are being sold at a loss.

HARD PAIN IN THE MILKING SHED
ANZ is the latest to cut its farmgate milk payout forecast for the new 2023/24 season. And this is the second cut in less than a month. ANZ now says farmers should plan on a $7.15/kgMS return. This comes just a day after Westpac cut theirs for a second time in three weeks as well, to $7.50/kgMS. Rabobank is preparing their updated forecast and it will undoubtedly be a hard trim too (they are currently at $8.20). All this is very painful because for the average dairy farmer, breakeven is probably at about $8.25. It is all very fluid right now. You can compare all analyst forecasts, including the NZX-Dairy one, here. But lets not forget that Fonterra farmers will be getting a sizable Capital Return payout from the Co-ops divestment program next week. In the short term, the cash will be flowing in.

GRUMPIER ON THE FARM
A recent survey by Federated Farmers of over 1000 dairy, sheep, beef, and arable farmer-members has found that confidence in the sector was at historic lows in July. And because this survey occurred before Westpac and ANZ cut their new season dairy milk payout forecasts to about -$1 below average break-even, it is certain to have fallen since.

ADAPTION & MITIGATION
But it isn't all bad news in the sector (although this 'good news' will cost adopting farmers), the Environmental Protection Authority has approved a DSM feed additive to reduce methane emissions in ruminant animals (including cows, sheep and goats) by -30%. More here.

IT'S POURING IN THE REGIONS
Ready-mixed concrete poured in Q2-2023 totaled 1,073,000 m3. But that was down -10% from Q2 a year ago, and now down -4% for the year to June from the same period a year ago. A year ago the pour was the second highest of all time. Of more concern is the almost -20% fall in metropolitan Auckland Q2-2023 vs Q2-2022. Interestingly, ready-mixed concrete poured in metropolitan Christchurch actually rose on that same basis by almost +14%. But Auckland only accounts for a quarter of the read-mixed concrete market, Wellington only 5% and Christchurch 10%. The other 60% is outside these three major urban centers.

RISING YIELDS
There were 124 bids totalling $1.376 bln in today's NZGB Treasury tender for the $500 mln available in 3 tranches. Yields rose in each, up +10 bps for the May 2026 offer to 5.06%, up +24 bps to 4.80% for the May 2032 offer, and up +25 bps to 4.94% for the May 2037 offer.

EYES ON US INFLATION
Analysts are expecting the US CPI inflation rate to rise to 3.3% for July, up from 3.0% in June. Core inflation is expected to hold at 4.4%. Any variances from these expectations are likely be market moving.

PRODUCER PRICES UP SLOWER IN JAPAN
In Japan, producer prices are still rising, but at a slower rate. They rose 3.6% year-on-year in July, the least since March 2021, after an upwardly revised 4.3% rise in June and compared with market expectations of 3.5%. The latest result also marked the 7th straight month of a slowdown in producer inflation, amid the easing global cost pressures. (Japanese consumer price inflation ran at 3.3% in June and their July CPI data will be released on August 17, 2023.)

EASING SLOWLY
In Australia, inflation expectations fell to 4.9% in August, from 5.2% in July.

SWAPS LITTLE-CHANGED
Wholesale swap rates are probably little-changed at the short end and up modestly for longer tenors. However, the real action in swap rates comes near the close. Our chart will record the final positions. The 90 day bank bill rate is little-changed yet again at 5.63% and now +13 bps above the 5.50% OCR. The Australian 10 year bond yield is up +2 bps from yesterday at 4.03%. The China 10 year bond rate is little-changed at 2.67%. And the NZ Government 10 year bond rate is up +7 bps from this time yesterday at 4.88%, and still very much higher than the earlier RBNZ fix which was up +4 bps bps at 4.78%. The UST 10 year yield is at 4.03% and up a mere +1 bp from yesterday.

EQUITIES GENERALLY LOWER ON EXTENDED RISK-OFF MOOD
The S&P500 ended its Wednesday session on Wall Street down -0.7%. Tokyo has opened its Thursday session up +0.4%. Hong Kong is down -0.4% but Shanghai is up +0.2%. The ASX200 is unchanged in afternoon trade, but the NZX50 is down -0.2% in late trade.

GOLD LOWER AGAIN
In early Asian trade, gold is at US$1917/oz and down a further -US$12 from yesterday. It closed earlier in New York at US$1913, and earlier still in London at US$1923/oz.

NZD STALLED
The Kiwi dollar is only marginally firmer from this time yesterday is just on 60.7 USc. Against the Aussie we are also marginally firmer at 92.7 AUc. Against the euro we holding at 55.3 euro cents. That means the TWI-5 is at 69.3 and little-changed.

BITCOIN NOT GOING ANYWHERE
The bitcoin price has slipped slightly from yesterday, now at US$29,601 and down a minor -0.5%. Volatility has been modest at just under +/- 1.3%.

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"Total credit card debt in the US jumped by $45 billion in 3 months to a record $1 trillion. Since 2021, total credit card debt is up nearly $250 BILLION. We went from handing out record levels of stimulus to borrowing record levels of debt. What does it mean when there's a V-Shaped recovery in credit card debt?"

https://twitter.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1689260691658518530?s=20

The financial system is going to blow up again (in my opinion...)

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Unemployment 10% by Xmas guaranteed.  😜

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Is that in the Scrolls?

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HERESY!

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It’s heresy as Rob says.

10% unemployment by Xmas would guarantee that interest rates would NOT be 10%!!!!

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The financial system is going to blow up again (in my opinion...)

Nope 

US cpi inflation running lower than expected at 3.2 pct. Leading to less interest rate pressure, less pressure on borrowers. Lets not make "emotive" claims 

Lower than expected but still higher than before due to higher residential rents. All I can say is those dirty LL are at it again!

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And from the Ute - O - Meter, ute sales have ...

 

And the latest curio / union poll...

Winnie's back

TPM are down 👇

Greens get a dead duck bouncing

Labour are surgeing to a new low

Gnats are up a smidgen

Top are steady on FA

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"When Japan hit current US level demographics, real estate prices fell for 28 years straight. In 1995, the median aged Japanese person was the same median age as the US today"

https://twitter.com/GRomePow/status/1689319925419270144?s=20

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And, perhaps just as interestingly, the same as China (39) and the UK and Australia.

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The big difference being though that Japan's a fairly closed walled monoculture, and the US is a new country and the most desirable place on earth for migrants to move to.

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Yes and so is china - so if they follow Japan's trend there will be "trouble at mill"

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Which is why China has spent decades preparing - and has world leading AI, green energy, hi tech engineering sectors for the economy of tomorrow. Aligned to a powerful military and food and raw material security via their African colonisation.

The West? Luxon, Trump, Boris et al aren’t going to save us

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Yeah right

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Green energy? China?

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90% of the worlds solar panels are made there. They are also miles ahead in hydrogen fuels. China spends significantly more on green energy than the REST OF THE WORLD put together

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"Warning: Risk of a 2024 recession is extremely high, comparable to the 1980s"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3HCxsxaMAIdkRA?format=jpg&name=medium

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Schiller CAPE indicates we are at a high valuation level as well: https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe

 

Let's just hope everyone buys their childs dog an iPhone for Christmas.

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Yip and cash now yields more than owning stocks. So why buy the risky asset when the return on the non-risky asset is higher?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3Fz6l5bwAAvOzl?format=png&name=large

We have created the conditions for a crash - whether that eventuates, time will tell.

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This now means the estimated 12 year return on stocks is negative (again).

Why buy the risky asset when you (on a probability basis) will get a better return from the non-risky asset?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2yrnU0WYAAvFJH?format=jpg&name=900x900

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Nice. And WAY higher than early 90s, early 2000s and 07/08…

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One of my favourite charts is S&P500 returns back to the good old days (1870):

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2023/07/03/regressio…

We've had a good time for a long time.

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US housing market:

"Cost to own vs rent has not been this out of whack in most people's lifetimes. 1980 was numerically worse, but it's still crazy how it went from a good time to buy, to a horrible time in 2 years"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3GOfJvXYAAHcwS?format=jpg&name=medium

There is still risk (and not just a small risk, but reasonable risk) of a significant further fall in house prices globally.

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It'll be a scattergun affair. Many US home loans are fixed at 2-3% for 30 years. So while borrowers in places like NZ or the UK are going to be under severe stress, in the US, people will just stay put. Instead, the lack of households moving there will dampen the consumer side of their economy (when people move, they often buy new appliances and the like).

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Yep. And I imagine new builds (requiring new mortgages) would be affected?

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Highly likely.

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Thanks for posting these graphs - great to see some real data in the comments section, rather than "my colleague's mate's uncle reckons..."

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Quite like the anecdotal.  As long as it's something observed and not just opinion.

eg:  someone here said the other day his overdue payments until recently were 10%.  But now 40%.

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S&P Global has dropped ESG scores from its debt ratings. S&P later clarified that their ESG credit indicators were not meant to be sustainability ratings or independent assessments of a company's ESG performance. Instead, they were designed to highlight ESG credit factors on their rating analysis.

They won't openly admit to it, but this is political.  

https://www.barrons.com/articles/sp-esg-credit-scores-5290338f

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When times get tough ESG is a nice to have.

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Dropped because they didnt add any value as they were rubbish anyway

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Actually, accounting in money is rubbish - because it avoids stocks (real ones).

Why believe a lie?

There need to be restructions on economic activity, commensurate with, say, the seventh generation hence being able to exist. And, I'll give you the tip, that would be orders of magnitude harsher....

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"Banks have continued to tighten lending standards Big rise in banks' tightening has systematically led to a recession since 1990"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3F9uzeaMAIEhJG?format=jpg&name=large

(last one for today...but just to highlight that there is a lot of bad economic data out there right now so if the brown stuff really hits the fan in the next 12 months, there shouldn't be any surprises)

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Moody's was motivated to downgrade some banks and put others on a negative watch over what its models forecast as a "mild recession." That's one possibility as is the CRE meltdown a recession can trigger in an "uncertain" funding environment. https://buff.ly/447xws6    Link

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Odd how the Fed just recently came out and stated that they are no longer forecasting a recession - and yet there are recession alarm bells going off everywhere.

It makes you question whether the Fed are trying to gaslight the public?

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When you look at the historical view of farm gate prices for milk farmers have had an amazing run: https://www.clal.it/en/?section=latte_new_zealand

 

I'm glad my car runs on petrol and not milk.

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And.. according to the Nymex RBOB futures, your petrol get more expensive each day!

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It has always been orders-of-magnitude too cheap.

One reason we went down the growth rabbit-hole.

Every litre burned on your/my behalf, can NEVER be burned by any member of any subsequent generation, ever. What should that litre really have been valued at, in that light? Not the cost of extraction, for sure.

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Valuing anything on the basis someone in the future won't also be able to use it is a strange line of thinking.

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On the contrary, it's normal to think of those to come. It why you flush a public toilet. Don't you?

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Should I think of the next occupant of my jeans each time I want to run the gauntlet of a fart that could be more than a fart? Not a great analogy.

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Are you saying jeans are a finite resource that feeds the planet?

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No, the fart could've been captured and used as energy.

But seriously, how can you ascribe value of future utility to something that's single use? It can either be permitted to be used, or it can't.

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Oh dear - you have any offspring? Try running your attitude past them...

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Yeah, I do. Strangely fossil fuel consumption is right down their list of life issues.

I'm not sure using your line of thinking who should be using them; us, our kids, our great grandkids, or no one (in which case the value is actually zero)? What if I need to drive one of my kids to the hospital to deliver a grandkid?

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And besides, it's only a theory that oil is non-renewable. No one actually really knows. Hydrocarbons have been detected on extraterrestrial bodies.

Using it all up could be good also as it would drive us to seek better alternatives like the time we used all the whale oil.

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Using it all up could be good also as it would drive us to seek better alternatives like the time we used all the whale oil.

You mean forced to flee a burning planet?

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Exactly.

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It's probably a safe bet for the time being that fossil fuels are single use if burned.

My kids definitely wouldn't have been wanted to be raised any more Luddite than they were though, if I went full pdk on them, they would've left home by about 14.

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"And besides, it's only a theory that oil is non-renewable. No one actually really knows. Hydrocarbons have been detected on extraterrestrial bodies."

'Grandad Zachary, what did you do when your generation was destroying the planet's ecosystem?'

"Oh, I did my bit darling, I used to post on a  finance website pointing out that aliens might save us.' 

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There were 124 bids totalling $1.376 bln in today's NZGB Treasury tender for the $500 mln available in 3 tranches.

We can add one more headwind for LT Treasuries. On top of QT, rate hikes (fake), there's downgrade, debt deluge, record # of speculators short futures and now oil prices. Highest for WTI in months, yet nearly off-the-charts demand for today's 10s auction.  Link

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So does that mean more people/have more money to invest at the RBNZ interest rate (about 5.5%) than the RB has demand for? By almost 3 times.

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Things are just going from not good to way not good for NZ.....     Diary is bad, China looks very weak.    Maybe after the election we get a bounce but the vibe is not good right now....      On a positive Mt Ruapehu as a lot of snow, talk of an iwi bid with the experienced manager as a stakeholder....   I really hope that they make enough this winter to be able to see a way forward....

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Roughly what % of China’s woes do people think are self inflicted? I reckon very high: 

- allowing an environment that fostered a pandemic ( massive local and international impact), and then being poor in shutting it down

- allowing a speculative housing bubble of epic proportions 

- deterring international investment in a range of ways

- deterring local productive, private sector investment in a range of ways

- being naughty on IP and bearing the brunt of that

- pissing off most of the world’s wealthy nations with its stance on a range of issues

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Stats releases the Overseas Merchandise Trade stats on 21 Aug.

I'd recommend everyone wears their brown corduroy trousers for that one.

Thank me later.

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Lol

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Anyone with crypto or NZD on Dasset exchange, they're not allowing withdrawals and many accounts have been blocked. Looks like they may be doing a runner

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Another reason to not leave your crypto at an exchange - DEX is the way.

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I have most in private wallets but unfortunately had around $4k on exchange. Was wanted to withdraw to add to the deposit on our new house... 

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These kind of bedroom / basement exchanges are unfortunately traps for normies making their first tentative footsteps. 

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Yes, more fool these folks who think they can store this new form of money offsite easily, like they have been able to do for an age with the old money.

It'd be like Netflix going back to physically posting you your movies instead of streaming them.....

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?? your comments seem to becoming worse on this subject....its easier than storing gold for a start

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Its undeniably way worse to store and use than fiat currency. Why would anyone want to burden themselves of being their own bank.

If the endgame is it's just a gold alternative, whatever.

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"Why would anyone want to burden themselves of being their own bank."

The comparison is; why would anyone want to be an unsecured creditor of someone else's bank.

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The Bitcoin bible now mandates self custody, because the alternative is high risk.

You can put fiat under your mattress if you really want, but remind me again how many people have lost their bank deposit in recent times in NZ? Remembering too that millions of people use money every day.

We seem to be quickly affirming Bitcoin isn't a competitor for existing currency/money, and more of a collectible.

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JC:  Tell us what you think a "Normie" is.

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A crypto n00b

In my day it was what weirdos used to describe neurotypical people.

There's probably a decent crossover between the two.

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JC:  Tell us what you think a "Normie" is.

It's a humorous descriptor for those who have strong opinions / half-baked understanding surrounding the crypto space.  

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That's changed since the last time you gave a definition. Although it's getting more honest I guess.

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I personally dislike the term

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To be fair, JC is the only person I've heard use it in the context of crypto. He's his own private club, no girls allowed.

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Your just sore the bouncer wouldn't let you in....

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Video: COVID Lockdown Destabilized National Economies, Destroyed People’s Lives. Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-covid-lockdown-weakened-national-ec…

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Does anyone need to see a video to work that out? Maybe once it's beyond lived memory.

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If you want to buy a ute now, you would really wait for a chance in government as they were going to scrap the tax. Sales will be probably low.

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