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A review of things you need to know before you sign off on Monday; more retail rate changes, strongish labour market detail, Supie in administration, swaps and NZD on hold, & more

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A review of things you need to know before you sign off on Monday; more retail rate changes, strongish labour market detail, Supie in administration, swaps and NZD on hold, & more
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Here are the key things you need to know before you leave work today (or if you already work from home, before you shutdown your laptop).

MORTGAGE/LOAN RATE CHANGES
The Cooperative Bank has raised its fixed rates by +10 bps for terms 6 months to 18 months, and by +6 bps for a two year fixed term. Update: Westpac has tweaked all its fixed rates higher. More here.

TERM DEPOSIT/SAVINGS RATE CHANGES
China Construction Bank raised most TD rates today, now offering 6.10% for six months and 6.30% for 1 year. Heretaunga Building Society also raised rates today competitively. Update: Westpac has launched an 8 month special at 6.10%.

LABOUR MARKET REMAINS STRONG (EARLY INDICATIONS)
The September employment indicator report from Stats NZ has revealed some rather juicy detail. First, there were a strong +3.1% (+71,860) more filled jobs in September 2023 than the same month a year ago, now up to 2.39 mln in total. Actual gross earnings were $14.9 bln, up +$1 bln or +7.2% higher than a year ago. The largest number of filled jobs was in Auckland, up +4.1% from a year ago, or +31,805. But some of this increase will relate to temporary hiring for the election. And we seem to be leaking jobs for those under 35 years, which is a worry. It is also worth noting that employment in primary industries fell to 94,650 in September as the rural sector suffers a hard cost squeeze. That is its lowest level since September 2019. It is hard to see this overall data undermining the Q3-2023 labour market results when they are released on Wednesday. The number of rural businesses also keeps on falling, the only main sector like this.

TOUGH METRICS
The chief BNZ economist is pointing out that 'the average cost of building a house relative to buying an existing one has never been higher'. They say the currently wide cost gap between building and buying a house should reduce, but much of this is expected to come via higher existing house prices.

"WE COMPAE FAVOURABLY"
The RBNZ continues to drip-feed 'special topics' out ahead of its Financial Stability review on Wednesday. The latest one looks at how financial stability in advanced economies has been affected by higher interest rates and how we compare. Their conclusion? "We find that New Zealand has many similarities to other advanced economies and compares favourably overall, although we do find that mortgage borrowers in New Zealand are relatively more exposed to higher interest rates. This is because of higher household debt levels and the relatively short fixed-rate periods of New Zealand mortgages."

TOUGH SECTOR TO BREAK IN TO
PwC has been appointed voluntary administrator of Supie, with initial estimates suggesting creditors are owed about $3 mln. Meanwhile the grocery watchdog reveals 'top 3' on his fix-it list for the supermarket sector.

CATCHING THE RBA'S EYE
In Australia, September retail sales rose more than expected to be +2.0% higher than a year ago, pumped by the +0.9% rise in September from August. The year-on-year result is far less than inflation but the more recent rise is sharpish and may encourage the RBA to hike, thinking that along with earlier +5.6% monthly inflation indicator data, the risks of waiting for are not worth taking.

SWAPS HOLD
Wholesale swap rates have probably held little-changed today at the short end, may up a little at the long end. The real reaction will come at the close. Our chart will record the final positions. The 90 day bank bill rate is -1 bp softer at 5.64% and now +14 bps above the OCR. The Australian 10 year bond yield is up +6 bps from this morning to 4.88%. The China 10 year bond rate is down -1 bp at 2.73%. The NZ Government 10 year bond rate is up +3 bps at 5.57% from this morning, but still above the earlier RBNZ fixing of 5.46% which was down -4 bps from yesterday. The UST 10 year yield is up +2 bps from this morning to 4.87% and back to Friday's level. The UST 2yr is back down -3 bps to 5.06%, so the curve inversion has narrowed today, now only -19 bps.

EQUITIES LOWER
The NZX50 is still in a negative phase, down -0.5% in late trade today. The ASX200 is also down -0.5% in early afternoon trade to start their week. Tokyo has opened down -1.1%. Hong Kong is starting its Monday down -0.2%, and that is the same for Shanghai. Singapore is down -0.3%. The S&P500 futures suggest Wall Street will open tomorrow up +0.8% which is quite a different perspective from all the other markets we follow.

GOLD SLIPS SLIGHTLY
In early Asian trade, gold is now at US$2003/oz and down -US$3 from where we opened this morning.

NZD HOLDS
The Kiwi dollar has risen slightly to 58.2 USc that at today's open and back to where were this time on Friday. But against the Aussie we are marginally softer at 91.7 AUc. Against the euro we marginally firmer at 55.1 euro cents. That means the TWI-5 is little-changed at 68.4.

BITCOIN UNCHANGED
The bitcoin price is little-changed today, now at US$34,486 and up +0.2% from where we opened this morning. Volatility over the past 24 hours has been modest at just on +/- 1.2%.

GO THE ALL BLACKS

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For those interested in term deposits I got a 5.5% rate on a 5 month term with ASB today. Advertised rate is 4.5%.

Interestingly they mentioned they could do 6.3% on an 8 month term.

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do you need 1,000's, 10,000's or 100,000s to get this type of rate?

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They didn’t state there was a particular threshold. Having said that the amount was >$10,000

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I need your contact at ASB because when my few hundy rolls over I just get the advertised rate, however I'm pretty much expecting 6.3% to be the norm come this time next month.

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I agree.  This is a good reason why I like to visit my branch rather than renew online.  Whenever I renew a TD online, I only get the advertised rate.

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I don't go into the branch, I phone them but still no joy in the past.

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"We find that New Zealand has many similarities to other advanced economies and compares favourably overall, although we do find that mortgage borrowers in New Zealand are relatively more exposed to higher interest rates. This is because of higher household debt levels and the relatively short fixed-rate periods of New Zealand mortgages."

Besides "no-sh*t Sherlock", what do we actually take away from this? I would think a relevant insight would come from how the "compares favorably overall" balances out the higher level of h'hold debt.

I'm left none the wiser from the intellectual power of Team RBNZ.   

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"...We find that New Zealand has many similarities to other advanced economies and compares favourably overall, although we do find that mortgage borrowers in New Zealand are relatively more exposed to higher interest rates. This is because of higher household debt levels and the relatively short fixed-rate periods of New Zealand mortgages...."

Figured that out ages ago.  Been reading interest.co.  

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ChatGPT obviously.

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DP

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Yeah, a lot of words and no answers or directions.

Downside risks remain if unemployment rises or if financial conditions tighten

In part this reflects robust macroeconomic fundamentals, such as low unemployment rates, and past regulatory tightening across many jurisdictions after the GFC.

Key downside risks to global financial stability are potentially weakening labour markets and persistently high inflation rates, raising the risk of further policy tightening.

And yet aren't they complaining about low unemployment rates and we're already seeing persistently high inflation rates and tightening financial conditions.  Sack the lot of them and let's go back to reading the stars, tarot cards and runestones.

European equity markets have profited recently from declining energy prices that increased corporate profits.

That's an interesting one - inflation stays high because the decrease in inputs isn't being passed onto the consumer?

 

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Gee, employment is resilient and defiant. 

Definitely HFL

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Yes that is surprising to me, and yes it will be HFL if the unemployment rate does not increase by much. 

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I suspect the fed is the main determinant of our rates, not unemployment.  Overall we will just have to take whatever they do.

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It's not though. Here's my take on what is actually going on:

  • More people are arriving into the country to take up jobs that residents won't do - often for very good reasons, like not wanting to leave their kids and family to go and sleep in a shed or a 6-bunk shared room in Queenstown, or minimum wage work in care services with unsociable hours and bedsit accommodation.
  • The number of people arriving is running at around twice the growth in jobs - so the people that are on the edge of the labour market are being shut out. This is showing up in the reduced number of younger people in jobs, and the number of people with health conditions and disabilities joining the dole queue. You can see this trend clearly in higher jobseeker claims - now ticking up at around 500 per week.
  • The variation across the country is also significant - with parts of the east coast, nelson, and wellington all seeing job growth well below-population growth. Auckland is booming because it is where migrants go first, and there are lots of jobs that you can only afford to do if you share a house with loads of other people trying to get a foothold in the promised land (note rents there have gone nuts as a result - up over 9%)

We get the labour market data on Wednesday. I am still betting on a 3.9% unemployment rate and an under-utilisation rate nudging 11% (or at least above pre-COVID levels). But, let's see.

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Thanks, great comment as always

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Interested in any anecdotes people have on performance bonuses ie. are they disappearing or being heavily reduced?
I think they are an under-considered economic factor. Many people almost rely on them, I know that was essentially the way for me when I worked for a large consultancy way back in the day.

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Our performance bonuses are 1/3rd company profit and 2/3rd individual KPI.  The company profit portion scales from 85% of target reached = 50% payout.  

So worst case we still receive 2/3rds bonus assuming all individual KPIs are met, which are just basically "doing your job" tasks.  

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Agree with most of this but I think there might be another explanation for fewer young people in jobs: massive emigration for delayed OEs and/or economic opportunities, at a time when there are very few returning OEs to balance them out. The migration data won't show this yet because the stats department still thinks these people are on holiday. 

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That's possible I guess. But the young people taking on work tended to be in relatively low socioeconomic areas - suggesting that it's unlikely that the same people are now bobbing off on an OE. Anyhow, we will see in next few months. My guess is unemployment is going to climb significantly. 

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Random 'state of the economy' anecdote for the day - I'm currently laid up owing to a medical issue, and so can only do very light exercise.

I normally frequent an F45-style gym (it's another Aussie, maybe American franchise I'm not sure but doing a similar thing) as it works well for me with no set class times, and I have enjoyed good results.

Not cheap at about $50 p/w but I consider it worth the cost. 

Anyway, my periodic membership rolled over a couple of weeks ago and I hadn't renewed (as I can't go back to the gym until January at the earliest). 

I got a phone call today from the franchisee, whom I've got to know fairly well. He straight up said he's ringing around because new inquiries/membership "leads" have dried right up over the past month and existing members are cancelling or not renewing - not because the product is no good but simply because people are feeling the pinch. 

Asked me to renew (with an unpaid pause) as opposed to looking like the membership has finished as it looks good back to head office.

Catching up with a couple of retail business owners over the past week, they are also reporting the going much tougher in the past month or so.

Will be fascinating to see how peak retail season performs. 

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Love these sorts of anecdotes. Often much more insightful than the aggregated data.

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Debateable. Its hard to see how we can keep getting these anecdotes yet the unemployment rate is very low. I guess we will see on Wednesday. 

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My gut feeling is there is ultra-lag at play, for some reason. Maybe people losing work in weaker parts of the economy can find work in the stronger parts? The data will click at some point. Surely.

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When writing my comment, what you are saying was directly on my mind (in fact I think I had just read a comment of yours higher up about the low unemployment rate).

This whole situation is weird, because things feel like a "struggle" for many businesses and individuals that I am personally connected to, and the general tone of the word on the street feels quite negative but the data isn't bearing it out yet.

Will be interesting to see what pans out.

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Had 2 cold call emails in the space of 2 days last week from a potential supplier in the civil infrastructure space. 

Got a price from them 3 months ago for a project.  Didn't go ahead.  Asked them for a generic pricelist, pretty much got fobbed off wasn't too worried.  Last week they were practically begging for some jobs to price, so threw them a couple of bones.  Like for like products 40% down on price on 1/10th the value of the previous project.   

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I have cancelled about $200 of subs a month myself in the last week....     not getting enough value....

I was paying for multiple xero companies moved 2 to spreadsheet, and had some other services not using, also lost about 4 kg in 2 months simply by working harder and eating less.

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Cancelled SKY 6 months ago. Sitting alongside Scrooge McDuck from 8.00am yesterday. bloody glad wasn’t paying to watch that RWC performance, both teams. Can’t any players run & pass at the same time these days.

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I thought it was a terrible game, on all fronts. Skill wise, officiating. I can’t believe a decent number of people thought it was an ‘epic’ game. Including Gregor Paul, the great AB apologist who was saying the ABs had ‘turned it all around’ after thrashing three minnows in group play and beating ONE very good team in ONE game.

As for Sky, the sooner they get rid of the godawful Nisbett, the better. 

Still, I pocketed some decent little winnings that will pay for all the Xmas things.

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To persevere with grump, would wager Ireland vs France would have been a better prospect as far as a showcase to advertise the sport.

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Yep

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Didn't watch the match, but wasn't it wet? 

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Yep, so a bit of a mitigating factor, but I have seen plenty of rugby games in NZ wetter than that, and with better handling.

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When Barnes admitted to Ardie that he shouldn't have penalised him fo illegally scrabbling for the ball, and then didn't reverse the penalty for the SAFA on the ground under Ardie illegally holding on to the ball, I was a tad non plussed. Same when the SAFA's headbutt was yellow, and the Kiwi's was red. Two real simple obvious instances of bad stuff.

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The final was free on Sky Open...hard to complain about that.

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When will the anecdotes show up in the stats? We still have very low unemployment and good GDP growth, probably the two most important indicators. I agree with the anecdotes, it does seem very quiet out there, but the NZ economy seems to keep chugging though it...

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GDP isnt the problem, its gdp/capita.

The loss of 40 years of fake wealth has years to play out and ripple through us.

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Sounds like tough times manifesting in good service.

Can go the other way. I recently changed dentists after some really bad head office type behaviour. Got chatting to a few clinicians and they are getting squeezed to book a certain number of procedures and have to explain down to each 15 mins. Same for an optometrist friend. 

 

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I had a couple of really good examples of great customer service recently, after so much crapness for so long. Interestingly, both were firms run and operated by South Africans. Efficient and impeccable service and manners.

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Like the foreign owned banks, foreign owned dental chain staff have to send more money overseas than they get paid themselves. Use a local dental business, for crying out loud.

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4 Seasons gone out of business too, a sign retail etc is drying up.

Then again, food prices (especially fruit/veggies) seem to have taken a big tumble. 5 Avos for $1, 2 cauli's for $5, 2 telegraph cucumbers for $3, cheap fruit, cheap other veggies at PaknSave on the weekend. Eggplants still expensive, but thats about it.

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Yes lettuce $1 at supermarket, most fresh produce very cheap right now, some lower than I have seen for years. 

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Yes fantastic! And it seems to be even better than the usual seasonal price drops, as you allude to. 
Lots more fresh greens on our dinner table 

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I guess lettuce growers have cancelled Sky also then? Why is it that food growers working for nothing is interpreted as good news?

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The price of lettuce is more to do with weather than anything else. I also wonder if the supermarkets are trying to look competitive to avoid regulation (the threat of regulation normally works quite well). 
Food growers tend to work for nothing in the hopes of capital gains, much like landlords. 

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I don't think you are right Jimbo but if you are we are screwed in the future as prices will only sky rocket.

When prices do get to the point of being worth while growing vegies, only then will local producers step up. In other words if you want local produce pay the price.

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Agree Palmtree, lower vegie prices only discourages growers and there are only a few now. Imagine if we have to import all our vegies!

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4 Seasons is an interesting one.

Did some accounting work for them back in 2012 on behalf of one of the shareholders and they seemed to be hemorrhaging back then.  Hard to know what's happened since but it looks like previous owners sold out in time.

Maybe that particular retail market and their niche just didn't work against the bigger players?

The competitive free market ay.  Built by small independent local suppliers, overtaken and dominated by the big chain stores.

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Interesting. Pass on to your business owners if you wish that if I'm still in nz by Christmas, we will be pretty austere this year.  The next 3 months are going to be tight even without it.

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“may encourage the RBA to hike, thinking that along with earlier +5.6% monthly inflation indicator data, the risks of waiting for are not worth taking”

Well – the RBA should certainly know now all about waiting and the associated risks:

“RBA governor Philip Lowe in 2021 gave forward guidance that the bank believed economic conditions would not warrant an interest rate rise until at least 2024”

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/inflation-lesson-interest-rates-were-too-slow-to-rise-20221114-p5by0a

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Listened to Sam Stubbs this morning from Simplicty after 9.30 am on RNZ. This is the most sense I have heard from anyone in the last 10 years regarding our over-priced housing. Well worth a listen. Hope the Kiwisaver fund goes well.

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Yes they are doing great stuff, I hope it goes well. I think it will. But you just never know in the housing development business…

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Do they get any government backing? Probably better than throwing money at Kianga Ora. 
disappointing that Labour didn’t do anything to prop up the building sector, it’s obviously going backwards. I doubt National will either. We can’t keep doing the boom bust. 

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It's a nice sounding narrative but call me a skeptic.  

1. No guarantee on return of capital for investors 

2. No guarantee on the underlying asset - the properties  

Caveat emptor. 

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I like the fact that they are all concrete or brick.

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Yeah they are meant to be a passive investor but this recent entry into building homes is far from passive. 

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Thanks for taking the effort to publish this - for my measly 20k, ASB offered a measly 5 basis points above the carded rate

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ASB say they will ask for a special rate and always come back with only 0.005% more. BNZ and Westpac will sometimes move more.

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