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Tuesday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: Do we really need pensions reform?; America's rotten corporate heart; Fake gold stress; Dilbert

Tuesday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: Do we really need pensions reform?; America's rotten corporate heart; Fake gold stress; Dilbert
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Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 past 12 pm, brought to you in association with New Zealand Mint for your reading pleasure.

I welcome your additions and comments below, or please send suggestions for Wednesday's Top 10 at 10 via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop any surplus suggestions I get into the comment stream under the Top 10.

1. Doe we really need to change our pensions system? - Peter Harris thinks not at Policy Progress.

My (admittedly sketchy) understanding of the Treasury model that reaches such conclusions is that it derives GDP growth trend changes through a projection of hours worked and an assumed rate of productivity growth. If that is wrong, I make no apology. My point is that if the public is being asked to buy into major shifts in (effective and efficient!) fundamental life cycle income supports, it should be based on more than “trust Treasury”.

A fifty year projection of trends is not just heroic, its nuts. Think back fifty years. Ignoring the EU, globalisation, China etc etc, consider just two technological changes that impacted trends since then: the pill and the computer. They fundamentally shifted birth and labour force participation rates and productivity. Policy based on projections of 1960s demographic, participation and productivity trends would have produced a (with hindsight) laughable prescription.

Even now, labour force participation rates for the 65+ age group show a steeply rising trend. We need a better understanding and more effective monitoring of factors that are driving the tax base, and changes in the demographic structure might well be one such. But it is manifestly not the only one, and almost certainly not the most important one.

2. If you thought I was bearish - Check this out from Egon von Greyerz at Zerohedge  HT Matt via email

Without this massive increase in debt, the US would probably have had negative growth for most of the last 39 years. Total US debt to GDP is now 380% and is likely to escalate substantially. The coming hyperinflationary depression and the credit and asset implosion that is likely to follow will most probably lead to the end of a 200 year era of growth for the Western world.

If only the excesses from the 1970s were corrected we might have a circa 20 year decline. But more likely we will correct the era all the way back from the industrial revolution in the 18th century and this could take 100 years or more. So after the tumultuous and very painful times that we are likely to experience in the next few years, the West will have a sustained period of decline. All the excesses in the economy and in society must be unwound.

3. The new face of Chinese protest - The New York Times has an interesting piece on white collar protesters in China.

A few days after the Agricultural Bank went public, dozens of former bank employees stealthily gathered outside the headquarters of the country’s central bank. There, after distributing small Chinese flags, they quickly pulled on red and blue T-shirts that read, “Protect the Rights of Downsized Bank Workers.”

By the time they had unfurled their protest banners, the game was over. Within minutes, a flock of police officers had swept everyone into five waiting public buses. By 8 a.m., when the People’s Bank of China opened its doors for business, the only sign of the rally was a strand of police tape.

During the past two years, these unlikely agitators — conservatively attired but fiercely determined — have staged similar public protests in Beijing and provincial cities. They have stormed branch offices to mount sit-ins. A few of the more foolhardy have met at Tiananmen Square to distribute fliers before plainclothes police officers snatched them away.

4. 'High levels of stress' - Emirates 24/7 reports that several tons of gold imported into the UAE from Ghana weren't really gold... HT Gertraud via email

Several tons of gold imported into the UAE by traders and investors turned out to be fake on closer inspection, resulting in millions of dirhams in losses and high levels of stress to the victims.

Speaking to Emirates 24|7, Mohamad Shakarchi,, Managing Director of Emirates Gold, said: "A lot of people in the UAE who tried to import gold at lower prices or through dubious overseas companies have been cheated. We have inspected many consignments from African countries, especially Ghana, and found that there is not an ounce of gold in them.

For importing pure dust or other metals with yellow colour, these traders have paid several million dirhams.”

5. Maybe the bust has started - Property sales in Shanghai, Nanjing and Hangzhou have halved in the first six months of the year, while those in Beijing dropped 40 percent, China Daily reports. HT Reece via email.

6. Ho ho ho - The boss of ASIC in Australia, Graeme Samuel, has lost A$50 million of his personal fortune because a company has failed, the Australian reports. Schadenfreude alert. HT Gareth via IM.

The DFO discount shopping-centre empire is teetering on the brink of insolvency andt he chairman of the Australian Competition & Consumer Commission, whose interest in the DFO holding company Austexx is held in a blind trust, said yesterday he had only discovered the full extent of the group's problems in recent weeks.

"This is most distressing indeed because it affects the interests of my children and grandchildren as beneficiaries of my estate," Mr Samuel told The Australian yesterday. Asked if the Austexx shareholding was his family's most valuable asset, he said: "There's no question about that." Mr Samuel was an executive director of the investment bank Hill Samuel, which became Macquarie Bank.

7. The mad thrashing about goes on - The Fed's impotence is causing people to ask all sorts of dumb questions such as: Could the Fed buy stocks instead. Here's FTAlphaville with the details of what one investment bank (that was licking its lips) has written.

Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s Michael S. Hanson and Ethan S. Harris are on hand to answer all your lingering questions. Including, err, why the Fed can’t just go ahead and buy up the US stock market.

8. Here's why America's current version of big corporate capitalism is buggered - Read this report from Joe Nocera at the New York Times to see the problem with 'star' CEOs like HP's Mark Hurd and the mad shortermism of much of listed corporate America.

Charles House, a former longtime H.P. engineer who now runs a research program at Stanford University, openly rejoiced when he heard that Mr. Hurd was leaving. “I think the sexual harassment charge was a total red herring,” Mr. House told me. He didn’t care. “I was delighted,” he said. Mr. House’s brief against Mr. Hurd went well beyond his outsize compensation and penchant for cost-cutting. As Mr. House saw it — indeed, as many H.P. old-timers saw it — Mr. Hurd was systematically destroying what had always made H.P. great.

The way H.P. made its numbers, Mr. House said, was not just cutting any old costs, but by “chopping R.&D.,” which had always been sacred at H.P. The research and development budget used to be 9 percent of revenue, Mr. House told me; now it was closer to 2 percent. “In the personal computer group, it is seven-tenths of 1 percent,” he added. “That’s why H.P. had no response to the iPad.”

9. Mass delusion American Style - Burning Platform does its thing. This is how many Americans think now. There is a growing mood of rebellion there. Worth watching.

The crony capitalists, Wall Street oligarchs, and corporate fascists who control the puppet strings in this country have benefited greatly from the Big Lie. Over 5 million manufacturing jobs have been off-shored since 2000. These good paying jobs are never coming back. Millions of service sector jobs continue to be shipped overseas.

The global conglomerates like GE, HP, Oracle, IBM, and Boeing continue to rake in billions of profits, distributing millions to its high paid executives, while gutting middle class America. The ruling oligarchs convinced Americans to take advantage of cheap goods and easy credit, to buy electronics, cars, appliances, new kitchens, and take the vacations of their dreams.

This Big Lie has left the American consumer with $2.5 trillion of non-mortgage debt and the lowest level of home equity in history. Retailers like Wal-Mart, Target, Home Depot, and Best Buy reaped billions in profits as Americans whipped out one of their 10 credit cards to buy HDTV’s, economy bags of tube socks, iPads, iPods, stainless steel refrigerators, and Dell computers. Small town America’s mom and pop economy was gutted by Big Box retailers selling the globalization delusion. The biggest beneficiaries of the globalization delusion were the Wall Street banks.

They control 80% of credit card market and have reaped billions in interest at rates exceeding 20%, while sucking $20 billion per year in late fees from the clueless public. Wall Street bankers have rewarded themselves for their brilliance in destroying the middle class by reaping multi-million dollar bonus packages.

10. Totally relevant video - Jon Stewart muses on how extending the Bush tax cuts "will strengthen the deficit monster that's going to eat our babies."

The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c
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Oh very good worm...Wally as in Wolly and not 'Wolly....! has been down filling the truck with nice hardwood off the beach before the southerly arrives...back in time to read the 10 at 10 and the nice cartoons...wouldn't be the same without the cartoons.

 

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FYI Graeme Hart seems set on world domination. He's in talks to buy rubbish bag maker Pactiv for US$5.3 bln, Bloomberg reports http://bit.ly/9mHzUU

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Excellent piece here on Interfluidity on why the Fed should simply inject cash directly into everyone's bank accounts rather than rely on either the US government or the banking system. Serious piece and food for thought. HT Kevin via IM

http://www.interfluidity.com/v2/918.html

cheers

Bernard

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Former WSJ Editor and head of policy at the Treasury (and 'Father of Reagonomics') Paul Craig Roberts calls for revolution in America. I'm serious. So is he. Anyone doubting the big problems in America should read this. He is a real heavyweight of the establishment. Extraordinary.

"The United States and the welfare of its 300 million people cannot be restored unless the neocons, Wall Street, the corporations, and their servile slaves in Congress and the White House can be defeated. Without a revolution, Americans are history. "

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/founder-reaganomics-says-without-revolution-americans-are-history

cheers

Bernard

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Wow! 

Paul Craig Roberts link, no punches pulled take down of the established order - military industrial complex, Wall St, the lot from a former member of the PTB.

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Bernard - good link - the comments are as good as the text. Only problem is that he fails to see the limits, as most do - what are all those jobs going to be processing?

There will be work, it will be local, and it will relieve the obesity-induced strain on the health system, of that there is no doubt.

Americans use fossil energy at the rate of having 1000 slaves apiece. It's going to be quite a culture shock taking up the slack.
 

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The Australians are getting nervous about their housing bubble.

"Morgan Stanley's Gerard Minack has diversified from being bearish about US equities into calling Australian housing a dud investment, a bubble, albeit one that just might steadily deflate rather than dramatically pop."

Here's Michael Pascoe in BusinessDay

http://www.businessday.com.au/business/housing-bubble-trouble-for-the-middle-class-20100817-127lv.html

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We cant afford the Public pension in the future when the retirees effectvely double which is the point of having the discusion now... Throw in an interesting point I read yesterday, retirees are spending less on consumer goods but 131%? more on healthcare...so in the future not only do the NX Pensioners numbers almsot double there is asignificant extra cost / strain on the public health system.

regards

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Re: No.2 

I bet most of the property speculators, RE agents et al just don't get the meaning of this graph ....... and will continually chant the mantra....." get in now before it's too late", "don't wait till the spring rush" , "for the discerning buyer" .... always a favourite of mine hahaha 

Then there are the others who say, regarding the NZ market and believe it -  "it will never happen here mate, were different" ... yeah right.

Oh to live life with blinders on and always "spruiking", what an existence....

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I was offered some "gold dust" by email. Strange, for some reason I sent the emails to the spam folder :)

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Hi,

Not so much stealing as fixing the problem too late and being forced to do it in a massive way.

An example, rather than say slightly raising taxes or cutting spending to balance the annual budget, a Govn or State Govn issues debt...but this is a structural problem ie they never have enough operational money so in effect captialise that which is the opposite to what they should be doing.  They do this because the voter wont accept higher taxes or less public spending.....so the easy way out is shove it on future Pollies and voters by issuing debt today....Eventually that small deficit becomes so huge that a default occurs and the Govn then has to take all those small amounts it should have taken over say 1 or 2 decades as one big lump sum in a very short time frame.

"Owning stuff" not so sure certianly you dont want any debt....what I am sure of we face some tough times....and I expect the Govns of the world to be draconian......For myself I cant figure out where I want to be.....ie a financial position beyond zero debt....it seems to be a case of damned if you do and damned if you do not.

regards

 

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I think you have this backwards....

This (some industrailists got rich) also happened in the US during the Great Depression. Usually what happens is the likes of Hart go bankrupt and the ppl with cash$ buy his entire company for cents on the Dollar....ie fire sale prices and hence can run the business at a fraction of the previous cost because there is no debt to service....This is a more appropriate model IMHO for our current and future situation.

IMHO Weimar was a totally false construct ie it cannot be applied here to the present global situation....Weimar was localised ie Germany and the result of shortages of goods and draconian measures to pay back the cost of WWI....

Here we have,

1) A global World wide situation.

2) An abundance of goods...but no one wants the debt to buy them.

3) Energy is no longer a trival % of GDP but a significant %, ie 6%+ and that will stay there, in fact probably double....

4) Contraction of money in circulation not an expansion.

At the moment its totally different. Now in the future if we start to recover then the Govns will have to print $ to pay back the debt but also a great aside is this causes inflation to reduce the debts true value....but looking at the Great Depression that took a decade before it happened and that was only a decade because of the ramp up to WWII which meant massive Govn spending did actually pull us out of the depression...

regards

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On Super :

There seems to be two aspects to the 'can we afford it' debate :

1 Income means testing

The vast majority of +65ers depend almost entirely on super. Thus the means testing advocates are talking about a relatively small group of people who have significant other income, above a set threshold. The cost of policing the eligibility of this minority would be significant and income splitting renders any such criteria difficult to police. An avoidance industry grows adding yet more unproductive drag to the economy. The actual net saving from introducing a means testing regime would be minimal.

2 Work the old fossils longer

As Peter Harris points out, this is already happening anyway and our progressive tax system already creates a super clawback for these people. But the reality is  a large number are stuffed by the time they reach 65 and would need state support anyway. 

Key has a point when he describes the present system as 'elegant ' ( in its simplicity).  

The reality is we are as a society stuck with the medical and super costs of a population bulge that is an unavoidable accident of our history and not a hell of  a lot we can do about it. The last government set in train the Kiwi Saver and Govt super  schemes aimed at easing the coming burden of BB retirees and it looks like this present lot are about to take the next steps.

Bloggers like Bernard have the luxury of advocating broadbased debate and radical action but seem to have forgotten past such attempts that inevitably produced  entrenched partisan positions and broken accords. An incremental approach at a speed the electorate can cope will deliver the best chance of a lasting solution.   

 

 

 

          

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Most of the over 65's who work already have an effective reduction in their pension because of our progressive tax system. So you can argue there is already is a means test clawback in operation.

The libertine brigade oppose compulsory savings on principle and advocates freedom of choice. As if everyone was as able and informed as they are.  Their dogma ignores the woeful financial illiteracy that is so damaging the prospects of this great little country. The Round Table proposes everyone should be free to choose to provide for their retirement as they see best.  Including putting your super into your house ( I wonder if we might hear less of that particular idea over coming months ! ) .  But their faith in the ability of a large chunk of the population  to make the sorts of informed choices they grandly propose , is misplaced.   

It is unfashionable to advocate a position that is remotely tinged with any hint of state knows best paternalism but this hard headed practical realism is exactly what has, through  compulsion,  helped give Aussies far brighter retirement prospects than their Kiwi cousins. 

The ' business and individuals can't afford it ' crowd trotted out the same line about kiwi saver but that scheme is working fine. Employers and workers have adjusted. Time to take the next step.   

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I don't think we will see people pulling away from the mantra of putting super into a house.  Well at least not the way I look at it.

I have  been very vocal amongst my friends and colleagues (less so on here, I dont post enough) that houses are overvalued and make a terrible investment right now.  But at the same time I'm very strongly against compulsory super.  I dont see paying off a mortgage as an investment decision I see it as a I need somewhere to live and I'd rather not pay a bank for the priviledge of doing so.  As soon as I am mortgage free then I can consider proper superannuation saving for assets other than housing but until that day saving for retirement is just throwing money away.

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It would be polite HR, to provide links to the articles rather than cluttering the board with endless cut and paste.

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It would be even more polite for him to take his tinfoil-hat crazy somewhere else.

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The hallmark of crazy - believing you're part of a smarter minority who see what the rest of us "ignoramouses" cannot see.

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