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Monday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: More problems with compulsion; Martyn Reesby and Money Managers; Shoot property spruiking journalists; America's class system; Dilberts

Monday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: More problems with compulsion; Martyn Reesby and Money Managers; Shoot property spruiking journalists; America's class system; Dilberts

Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 to 12 pm, brought to you in association with New Zealand Mint for your reading pleasure.

 I welcome your additions and comments below, or please send suggestions for Tuesday's Top 10 at 10 via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop any surplus suggestions I get into the comment stream under the Top 10.

1. Martyn Reesby and Money Managers - Greg Ninness has an excellent story in the Sunday Star Times hunting down the funding connections around Nigel McKenna's Melview Developments.

The mercurial Martin Reesby and the execrable Money Managers are involved.

Sigh.

Where will it end?

Reesby was a middle man in many of the development deals done in the boom and was closely linked to Fortress Capital.

Sigh.

Funds investors are facing significant losses as the property empire of Auckland developer Nigel McKenna implodes under the weight of its debts. Investment funds managed by NZ Funds provided finance to property developments undertaken by McKenna's Melview group of companies, but several of these have since collapsed into liquidation and the funds now face substantial losses.

Many of those investors would have invested in the affected funds through NZ Funds' sister company, Money Managers, now called MMG Advisory Partners. About $100 million of investors' money was channelled through a company called Fidelity Ltd, which is largely owned by interests associated with NZ Funds' founders and major shareholders Gerald Siddall and Russell Tills and Auckland financier Martyn Reesby.  

2. 'We should look before we leap' - Rob Stock has a great piece in the Sunday Star Times about the problems with the Australian compulsory super scheme for people to chew on before we make the leap to Compulsory KiwiSaver. Well worth a read. T

he big problem with the Aussie system is that it has enriched and created a new industry of fund managers and investment bankers. There's a bunch of Macquarie Millionaires swanning around now that were created by this scheme. Are we happy to have this little spinoff?

AS NEW ZEALAND plans its future superannuation system, we should learn from the damning findings of last year's Australian Super System Review.

An expert panel found a system where the super industry and its affiliates were managing schemes more in their own interests than those of savers, and suggested some radical overhauls.

3. Israeli attack on Iran? - Jeffrey Goldberg writes in the Atlantic that there is a real prospect of Israel launching a military strike against Iran early next year. Just what everyone needs. Not. HT Nikki via email.

What is more likely, then, is that one day next spring, the Israeli national-security adviser, Uzi Arad, and the Israeli defense minister, Ehud Barak, will simultaneously telephone their counterparts at the White House and the Pentagon, to inform them that their prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has just ordered roughly one hundred F-15Es, F-16Is, F-16Cs, and other aircraft of the Israeli air force to fly east toward Iran—possibly by crossing Saudi Arabia, possibly by threading the border between Syria and Turkey, and possibly by traveling directly through Iraq’s airspace, though it is crowded with American aircraft.

In these conversations, which will be fraught, the Israelis will tell their American counterparts that they are taking this drastic step because a nuclear Iran poses the gravest threat since Hitler to the physical survival of the Jewish people. The Israelis will also state that they believe they have a reasonable chance of delaying the Iranian nuclear program for at least three to five years. They will tell their American colleagues that Israel was left with no choice. They will not be asking for permission, because it will be too late to ask for permission.  

4. 'Honk if you love caviar' - This piece from Joe Bageant on America's class system is worth a read, if only to get a sense of the deepening disillusion with the political and economic elites that run the world's largest economy.

It's a rant, but with many interesting insights. It's a Marxist view of America, which I'm beginning to think is the accurate one... Lighting touch paper, standing back. Here's a taste below.  HT Rob via email.

The top one percent of Americans own more wealth than the bottom 45% of the rest of Americans combined. I have seldom met an American who thought this is a good thing, and seldom met one who understood how the ruling class got so rich. Simply put, it was through constant cultivation of bigger and more labyrinthine government, creating legal and technical complexities to sluice money nationally and globally in their direction, and to cover their asses in the process.

The results are such things as 3,000 page health care bills (defining which corporate elites get which parts of the cake), or the 2,000-page NAFTA and its 9,000 tariff product codes. Once the public was buried in such a maelstrom of legal paperwork, computer transactions, modeling, etc., it was easy to argue that the world had become so complex that the skills and brains to operate it were extremely rare and those who had them were fucking geniuses. These are people who dwell in such airy realms that we should pay them vast amounts of money and never question their decisions.

Because the revolutionary destruction of the current economic system, bad as it is, would crash the country's economy even more quickly than the current process of theft, we are not likely to see an outright revolution that overthrows the ruling class. Look at the sorry assed "Tea Party Revolution," which will have to be allied with the GOP (which its backstage leadership has been anyway) in 2012 if it wants to be even a small factor.

Media noise about the Tea Party doth not a revolution make, and it certainly does not overthrow the ruling class, who do not mind the wrath of the rabble, so long as it does not get in the way of the money. And besides, the ruling class holds all the money, not to mention the media that informs the populace as to what is going on in our country. It controls our health care, our banking and retirement funds. It controls our education or lack of education, and it controls the price, quantity and quality of the food we eat. It controls the quality of the air we breathe, and soon, through pollution credits, even the price they will pay for that air.

Most importantly, it holds concentrated legal and governmental authority, not to mention the machinery of both parties to grant itself more authority. After decades of hyper-militant consumerism and its attending alienation, and a national consciousness spun from pure capitalist bullshit and mirrors, it is testimony to the American people that they can still see to piss straight, much less recognize any sort of truth whatsoever. Yet, a portion of Americans are beginning to grasp the truth about what has happened to their country -- that it has been bought and paid for by an elite class in a nation that is supposed to be classless.

They are beginning to realize that, when it comes to actually governing our country, we are powerless as individuals -- even members of the political class -- and serve the overall will of its true owners. It's been that way so long we've become conditioned to accept it as a natural state, something we cannot change, and do not even know how to question, because, like the atmosphere, it's just there.  

5. No worries then - The New York Times reports that American consumers are now saving more by buying more US Treasury bonds than foreign investors. The chart below tells the story.

There are a couple of possible implications. No one needs to worry about US government deficits because the Americans can fund it themselves. Until they don't.

The US dollar will survive because an exodus of foreign Treasury bond holders won't happen, or if it does, American savers will soak up the bonds. Until they don't.

The austerian harbingers of doom (like me) who say the bond vigilantes will eventually force austerity are wrong. Until we're not. Your view?

In calendar year 2007, the Treasury borrowed a net $237 billion. Of that, 81 percent came from foreign governments, mostly from central banks. Private foreign investors took up the rest, as American companies, banks and individuals reduced their combined Treasury holdings by $13 billion.

In the first six months of this year, the Treasury numbers indicate that foreign governments reduced their holdings of Treasury securities by $10 billion. Not since 2000 — when the United States government was running a surplus and did not need additional funds — have foreign governments been net sellers for a full calendar year. 

6. 'Shoot the property spruiking journalists' - The Irish Independent reports here that journalists that promoted property before the Irish property bubble burst may be targeted by grumpy investors. Phew. I'm safe then.... Who were the journalists promoting property in New Zealand.... Your picks?

The big problem in Ireland was the journalists who wrote about holiday home developments in Bulgaria. They were given free trips and often offered cash. I wonder how many stories about Fijian developments got similarly soft coverage here. HT James via email.

Since the crash, those who lost a fortune or who have been left with unsellable property have been looking for someone to blame.

Now a hate figure has emerged in the form of the property journalist. Although a case has yet to be lodged, a number of aggrieved investors are said to be consulting Dublin lawyers about launching a case against certain journalists who, they believe, were responsible for misleading them into investing in developments that failed to deliver promised returns.

"Journalists fear they may be made legally liable for misleading readers who followed their advice and bought properties abroad, suffering major losses," says Richard Compton Miller, a property journalist himself. "There's a lot of anger among investors."

7. Is this fair? - Further the class system article above, bankers in New York are being paid much more than other workers in America, the WSJ reports (!).  Not a little bit more. Astoundingly more.

Did I mention I'm turning into a Marxist...

At the pit of the recession in the United States new Wall St bankers were earning US$11,759 a month, up 23% on the year before.

That’s more than double the average wage for all new hires in the city, which in turn was more than double the average wage for new hires in other major cities. The data are consistent with two trends that bankers said were happening at the time. For one, even after being rescued by the government, many banks were bidding high to poach the best talent from their competitors. Beyond that, amid efforts by the US congress to slap a supertax on bankers’ bonuses, and to help avoid the embarrassment of riches that often occurs around bonus time, banks were moving toward paying higher salaries.

More broadly, the wage data suggest that one of the major trends of the past few decades has yet to play out. Back in the 1970s, bankers’ salaries didn’t differ much from those of other folks. Amid the deregulation and financial innovation that followed, though, they began to break away from the pack. As of 2006, wages in finance were about 72% higher than the average for all professions, according to economists Ariell Reshef of the University of Virginia and Thomas Philippon of New York University.  

8. Some Chinese weaknesses -  Rodger Baker at Stratfor details in a video what he sees as the multiple fundamental weaknesses in China’s economic system.

He says China's export-based low margin economy is not sustainable and will eventually lead to economic and political stresses that cause a collapse.

9. Totally relevant video - Here's the latest AirNZ safety video. Richie McCaw can fly planes and beat the South Africans. E

veryone keeps their clothes on, but the gay hostie tries to kiss Richard Kahui. Excellent.

10. Totally irrelevant video - Jon Stewart does his thing on the issue of net neutrality and those evil-non-doers at Google. This is the best and most entertaining summary of this thorny issue I've seen.

The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c
Internet Exploiter
www.thedailyshow.com
Daily Show Full Episodes Political Humor Tea Party

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Number 6 has a ring of truth to it. I suspect along with the journalists, quite a few RE sprookers will be in need of wearing special vests!...and some bankers...and pollies. The targets are out there.

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Calm down Kimble...our BH was only joking...he knows marxists are economic terrorists and thieves to boot. What would you say was a fair and honest salary plus bonus plus perk package for a banking boss by the way...a state owned bank?

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What was that OllyN saying the other day?

The shops and resturants are full of customers ......... Something like that.

From todays NZHerald:

 New Zealand's premier shopping district could be losing its shine, with high numbers of shops forced to close and others selling almost nothing as they hang on.

It is not just small outlets that are struggling; a major shoe retailer sold two pairs of shoes during a working week in July.

The main stretch of Broadway in Newmarket is punctuated by empty stores, shops for lease and closing-down sales as businesses struggle in a post-recession slump in sales.

The Herald counted at least 15 shops which were closed or closing on the strip, which sells itself as the fashion capital of the country. 

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One has to wonder what what kind of shoes that shop is selling.

Regarding shoes, I know I'm just one little data point, but I have noticed a trend.  Just over ten years ago I looked around for some nice shoes.  I found Rivers brand (made in Australia) here in Christchurch.  Nice shoes, I did look around a little to see if there were any NZ made shoes I liked but didn't find any.  So bought the Rivers.  A few years later I went back to the same shop to buy some more Rivers, but the shop had closed down.  I hunted around but didn't find anyone selling Rivers any more.  Then a couple of years later I was per chance in Australia on holiday, and found a Rivers store.  Yippee, I bought pair.  Then three years later (last month in fact) I was in Australia again, and went to the Rivers store to buy a pair of shoes.  I picked them up, and it was obvious the quality just wasn't there any more.  They're now made in China.  The price was lower that my previous pairs (a lot lower), but the quality was absent.  The shop assistant said all Rivers shoes are made in China now.  So I left the store without buying any shoes.

Sad - they lasted for years and years, even with every day use.  RIP Rivers aussie shoes. 

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Same with pretty much any branded quality product.

Timberland knit shirts used to be like chain mail - now you can spit through them. Ralph Lauren fabrics get thinner, Cole Haan shoes get cheaper looking.

Beancounters at work

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Hi Martin, What you are telling us already happened back around 1730, yes, the last shippments of furniture and other goods that the trade was bringing to Europe where left abandoned at the port because europeans consummers refused to keep buying the rubish that was manufactured by the Chinese in the later stages of the east trade so the captains of the vesels prefered to leave them to rot in the sun. That has always been the problem with Chinese stuff they start making good products at competitive prices but somewhere allong the way they fail to meet the standards. Martin you can always but a good pair of Church shoes made in Northampton... they are and will stay english.

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Thanks for the heads up on Joe Bageant. He's appearing in Christchurch in September as part of the Writers' Festival, alongside kiwi writer David Haywood.

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Gerald Celente talks about The Greatest Depression. HT AndyH

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/535350/And-Now-Were-Headed…

This guy seems to hit the nail on the head. "There is a real off with their heads fever going on."

"Celente argues the middle class has been wiped out. America used to be a land of opportunity for all, where hard-working people could build their own small businesses in their own communities and live prosperous and fulfilling lives. But now a collusion of state and corporate interests that Celente describes as "fascism" have conspired to help only the biggest companies and the richest Americans. This has put a shocking amount of the country's wealth in the hands of a privileged few and left the rest of the country to subsist on chicken-feed wages and low job satisfaction as Wal-Mart "associates" -- or worse."

 

cheers

Bernard

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This is hardly new news , Bernard . The corruption and lobbying in their Congress is well documented . Plus the unions , Teamsters & such . Decades of this malarky has not crashed the capitalist system yet . The strength of the limited liability company to create wealth continues , regardless of the corruption & stupidity of those in politics or in unions .

The pity is that politicians in the USA ( as in NZ ) still don't recognize the power of small businesses to create jobs / wealth / innovate new products & services . The focus on " too big to fail " is a failure in itself .

 

You whom continue to denigrate and write-off America as a declining empire , may look rather foolish in the years ahead .

 

If in doubt , off with the heads of some succulent little Gummibars : You'll feel so much the better for it !

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It has been suggested that the reason Americans don't revolt is that they BELIEVE that if they work hard enough and are smart enough, they too will reach the top.  This is clearly rubbish, but as long as enough people continue to BELIEVE, they will continue to support, praise and even LOVE the system that enslaves them.

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Come the revolution...  All Roccos will also be lined up against the wall...

Of course I'm not advocating anyone be shot.

I'm trying to have a conversation here. Let's debate these issues of wealth transfer and disparity and the safety of our economic system. There's something wrong. Let's talk about it.

Simply labelling people doesn't stimulate conversation and progress. It just shuts down debate.

cheers

Bernard

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You're flogging a dead horse BH...gotta expect clowns when we are all in a circus. People is looking for scapegoats and targets to excuse their stupidity and dumb decisions.

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True that... Wally .....but Bernard has long been of a Quixotic persuasion...... and dead hosses need to be whipped occasionally ..... just to be sure their not malingering.

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I......................knew I shouldn't have bought all that copper......cripes Wally now your not to be trusted either........best go get your flack-jacket and dust it off a mite.

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Fair suck of the sav Christov...I yelled out sell loud enough and you have had and still have time to get out...the shortage remains an expected event but the liars in America are about to trigger credit crisis two...when that happens all bets are off.

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Well...............ok then......your safe.........for now..............you don't have a jacket do you..? I might have given some shitty advice that I may... er.... live....... to regret ....or not as the case may be.

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Life was so much better when you were under your rock Offy.

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Thanks Offensive.

Perhaps you might like to prepare a list of "acceptable" subjects and comments that we can select from.

You will probably need to run it past Mind Control HQ first, just post it up when you're done.

  

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Oh for....sod's sake...now we have peak bloody Helium to worry about!

 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10668231

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No we don't. That article is so far from true it's embarrassing. Current known prospects are estimated to contain enough helium for the next 25 years - but unprospected deposits are realistically estimated to contain at least 1,000 times that amount. And that's just in the USA - no one has bothered looking in Australia (would you with prices so low?), which likley contains even more than the USA due to its rich uranium deposits (the byproducts of which contain helium).

Furthermore, the article wrongly stated that helium cannot be manufactured. It can, just not econimcally, though that will likely change in the future.

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Oh thankyou Chris...I was soooo worried about running out and no longer being able to laugh.

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Ha Ha Amen....ha ha !

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I'll second that!  On the more civilised continent, there was even that story of the group of pensioners who kidnapped their financial advisor.  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8505090.stm

I had a look using Google, but could find any reference to people in the US shooting their financial advisors.  I did find one story about an unemployed financial advisor who shot his wife though.  Typical.

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Government and the “Big Boys” banks, insurance and other large companies are “munching” us up. Are you people not realising that the middle- class is disappearing not only here in NZ but worldwide -and are you aware when this trend is continuing our economy is doomed ?

 In the current worldwide situation - peace can only be retained by peaceful revolutionary events.

Start of a revolution for a better New Zealand:

Saturday, the 27th of November by noon we meet in the 3 big cities (without guns) but with sticks and demonstrate against Donkey’s politics.

Slogan: “Stop killing the middle- class” “Reduce the government”

 

Friday the 3rd of December demonstration 2pm in front of all “Council District Offices” in the country:

 

Call for 10% wage/ salary reduction of all councillors and civil servants above $ 100’000.- 15% reduction

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Hmm, where do you draw the line though?  Countries that build military ships, or tanks?  What about land mines?  I saw a documentary once claiming that Fiat are the world's largest producer of land mines.  That's not very nice either.

You are right in what you say though, bad-mouthing trade with China is eseentially politically incorrect.

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but but.. if we stand up for all that is right and good, where are we going to get our shiny baubles from?  The ones I bought last month have broken already and I need more.

 

:-)

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Wanderley,

Great name. I'm liking the cut of yer gib. Great link.

cheers

Bernard

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They wouldn't dare upset our new found best friends..... our potential saviours.... our overlords to be.....no we will behave as they would expect us to .,.......cringing dogs in need of any bone they can toss our way.......

Besides we launder a lot of dirty money for some of their good citizens and so perceive ourselves as cleaning something up anyway.

Its a pity that those in positions to......who may be as yet yet uncorrupted..... can't squeak up a little...... just to let them know we are not all throwing out the welcome mat.

As to your good self just keep doing what you just did............they have a preconceived opinion of us as a collective society...... it's not good.....stupid and lazy are two favourites back in the old country............ripe for the picking does not translate well...but that kind of thinking prevails.

at least you know where you stand with Iran........and there's something top be said for that.

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I said they have opinions of us as a collective society............ethnicity was not implied nor proffered.

I have family there so the set of their eyes and skin tone have zero input to the difference in ideology.

So save the race card for race day.

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yeah steve-o that's a good point. i know the chinese have long memories, so just how much does that influence their attitude to meth exports?

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RE: #6

Yes, heaven forbid investors take responsbility for their own actions. Anyone who invests on the advice of a journalist deserves to lose everything. They have no one to blame but their own stupid selves.

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W L "How much political or economic pressure has been put on the Chinese"

Good God man, are you mad. Criticize the Chinese?

What was that Sutton cretin raving on about the other day? "Biggest trading partner" (actually we have a huge trade deficit) "too important to offend"  "can't risk NOT selling them our farm land" Blah blah blah.

No mate, drugs, toxic toys, poison milk, allowing the theft of NZ assets (Copthorne Hotels) all OK with us.

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Absolutely nothing........ why we'll even buy their apples if they can grow some..... nosireeebob...... at all cost .....DO NOT OFFEND..OUR..NEW ..BEST..FREINDS. 

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Hey is that right about the Copthorne chain...KD........maybe the food will improve.....but don't eat the powdered eggs no more.......er......just don't that's all..

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Becasue you and your mate's anecdotal opinion are much more useful than exhaustive economic data, right?

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Yes I have - for every new member of the millionaire category – 1’000 less in the middle- class - bravo - what a future for our nation !!??

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A reminder to all

We are planning to turn off unregistered "anonymous" comments from September 12.

We encourage everyone who is unregistered to register. The box on the right under the comment stream is the one.

Here's more detail

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/heres-why-wed-you-register-be-comment…

A few names I'd really like to see sign up from this thread:

Wanderley Luxembergo, Matt in Auck, steven-orig, annonentity

 

cheers

Bernard

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What's about me "Kunst" ? Ah - okay I'm already registered- great !

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sorry bh was using wrong login........    must ....remember.... to... log ....in.....

 

if it whittles out some of these douchey anonymouses that's a good thing.

 

ps does anybody know how much the times' visitorship dropped when they started charging a month or two back?

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Is that a wish..........?Is that  a threat...........? Is that a calculated prediction based on your input being withdrawn....?

or are you talking trash....?

I would miss you ...hey nonny nonny .... so please sign up if not for me then for the sake of humanity............ come on whaddaya say...scamp...think of all the good times we've had.............. with with you making other people look like D*!kheads...and then having a turn yourself...........it's the sharing the experience that counts....

So sign up Nonny..........................cause I want you to....and so does B.H. secretly. 

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Then it would appear you have an appetite for nausea and dull beats....... so don't fight it Nonny ...stay here with us........we need people like you...and I  promise to make you as sick as you can possibly be.

Think it over.......... got loads of friends to hate....... a good place to vent that DSB or what ails you.........it's all here for you .......you just have to commit is all.

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That's your blood sugar level you nitwit...that thing between your ears uses more energy than you obviously realise...such a waste!

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hey quit that Wally... we're making progress here......timing mate ...gees.

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IQ......Ishmoo....what the hell is good for you...?

Just bail before you O.D...... if you feel the rage coming on ....tune out for a spell..... get some ammo and perspective.......... and then whammo... hit me with that intellectual stuff till i'm dizzy and dribbling.

It's all good.........and once in a while you'll get to say....s...s..s...orry I got that wrong and wow it's like finding another leg. 

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What a weird comment. All you need is a nickname of your choice. Nobody is asking you for your personal phone number! If you're not into illegal stuff or planning to insult and offend a whole lot of people, you've got nothing to worry about (and if you are then you may have a few things to worry about but registration on this site is unlikely to be one of them).

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Some people might be concerned about speaking their mind when their identity can so easily be traced.  Some of the discussions on here would get you locked up in some countries.  Maybe what is being discussed now is not illegal, but that's not to say that some time in the future the ruling power will not follow up on these 'trouble makers'.

Couldn't happen?  It happened in France when it was invaded by Germany in WW2.  That's just one example.

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re no.4...

actually, after living here in the states for six years and experiencing just how bewildered and depressed and angry people are at economic and political decisions that are made that run counter to their attempts to try to provide some measure of personal and economic security and stability and even improvement in their lives, i can recognize and agree with most everything this so called marxist guy is saying. the us system is out of control with vested interests and corruption of process that serve only to advance and protect a tiny elite's purposes. as i've lived here i've realized that it's a joke that this place is called a democracy and that it holds itself up as a shining example of the aforementioned. the usa is a plutarchy and people are pissed off about it. really pissed off about it. it's just that for now the rage and wish for change is incoherent and thus easily highjacked by swivel eyed anti-government each to their own libertarian fantasists, gun toting red neck jesus freaks, and bandwagon issue hugging empathy addicts. yet from what i gather, and have experienced, americans as a whole are decent and measured and generous and hard working and moderate in their outlook. and maybe it's these admirable and patient qualities, mixed with their patriotism for their country and genuine need to believe in their 'american dream', that leads them to be so slow in recognizing when they are being taking for a ride. plus, as far as the media here are concerned, it's the extremists who are where the attention and story is - the crazier the better! and the ruling elite are happy to sow confusion and have the legitimate concerns of the country drowned out in a cacophony of foolishness. what a place! what a shame! it's exactly what jefferson, et al warned against - a reemergence of old european type power structures, a fascimile of the ones that the americans fled from.

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hey matt there is a freakonomics podcast on itunes (free of course) and also the npr planet money ones are quite good in exploring the stories behind the mainstream non-stories

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Nice work Matt..... the picture is always the moment in view.... the numbers that make the sum of the whole.......... can be arranged.

and you are absolutely right people ............ are seeking bargains as the desperate become obvious......... it distorts the picture...... but only for so long.

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Wally/Wolly and Bernard are revolting!!!

Join the revolution !!

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Is there a healthy middle class in any country in the world at the moment? Who are they and how are they sustaining themselves?

The podcasts sound interesting. I'm going to check those out. Thanks IR and Vanderlei for the tip. 

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Bernard - your 12.54pm re. Celente and US political power structures, facism, ending the middle-class - it almost seems like a kind of economic apartheid doesn't it?

Thankfully we don't have that kind of problem in NZ, do we.

This recent paper is interesting:

'Is New Zealand Smarter* than Other Countries or Simply Special? Reconsidering a Realization-Based Capital Gains Tax in Light of South Africa’s Experience'  

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1646146

I wonder if SA would have been able to implement a more even taxation system, including a CGT, if they had not ended apartheid?

How could we get a more even taxation system?

Cheers, Les.

www.mea.org.nz

(PS - * err, I don't think so.)

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@ JD

Is there a healthy middle class in any country in the world at the moment? Who are they and how are they sustaining themselves?

Central Europe, for example.

How do they sustain themselves?

Well, with a high standard living built up through years of sensible consumption, a skilled pool of workers, quality housing stock (and no stigma against renting) a 10% savings rate, a housing market (in Germany, at least) with that's boringly stable and matches inflation plus a Government that subsidised firms to keep workers on the payroll during the worst days/months of the crisis.

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My wife just returned from a 3 weeks holiday in Switzerland. So far there are not many signs of a recession. Manufacturing is strong, retail shops are selling and consumption in general is okay. Increase saving of money is a trend.

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The “Non Strategy Economic Policy” of our government is working towards losing the middle class – the perfect recipe to bankrupt our nation.

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Eurokiwi @ 8.20

Mildly redistributive ?

My European based middle class family members endure tax rates that in NZ we'd regard as cripplingly punitive.    

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25 and a PhD?

Given that you won't start studying until you're 20, you'll graduate at 24-26 with the equivalent of M.Sc or M.A.

That'll get you a decent job in the commercial arena.

An apprenticeship will get you a skilled trade job

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Germany#College_and_University

 

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re journalists - she's not one, but Carmel Fisher should pat to waffle like she did in the SST on Sunday.

I took from it that she hasn't a clue. Rather like John (I didn't see it coming) Bongard. These folk just don't get taught about the real world. Why is it they get the column-inches?

Roger (BRT) Kerr, too, had a wee rave in the ODT last week - rambling on about Friedman and the other one. Sounded like a burning medieval priest hoping he'd backed the right horse........ chanting the only mantra he knows, even as it goes up in smoke.

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American savers now buying more treasury bonds than foreign investors !. Who would have thought . NZ savings rate moving into the positive zone. Coming after recent news 'about to crash' Hungary got a bond issue away internally without recourse to the IMF, it really is all too much for us bunker dwellers to cope with.  

I mean,  imagine what harm this sort of vaguely positive spin might do to our collective physche. Doesn't bear thinking about. Bad enough that 70% of US corporates reported earnings on or better than guidance in the latest results season. And that the Aussie season is also going reasonably well. I'm totally in denial about the German economy growing reasonably well  - just an accidental beneficiary of the artificially low Euro, nothing more.      

Personally I doubt I could carry on if this damned  savings fad combined with austerity measures averted the dawing of the apocalypse which I have so earnestly been predicting and praying for.  

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We knew that months ago HR...move ahead now...look to the Yanks destabilising China by stirring the ethnic pot in the western regions and the marxist idiots in India...end result will be to cause fear of losses to crimp off the flow of capital out of the west and the US for sure.

Don't be surprised to see Israel pound madjad into the desert with US backing even if Barry O is out of the loop. That'll bring a rush to bonds and up will rise the toilet paper in value.

You need to know there are two quite separate power bases in the US...the bullshit one with Congress the Senate and the nutters in the Whitehouse......and then the real one which works way beyond the dumb arsed media and polly clowns.

It is the demand for super advanced weapons that are only made in the States, which that real power base is aiming to see as the cash cow for decades to come. Buy skunkworks!

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15. Promote the dead horse to a management position. 

- yes and all of a sudden bang-  we have a Donkey.

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It's over anon....we are just going through the rituals and ceremony at the end of something that held a belief long enough to warp behaviour of the masses.

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