
Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 to 10 pm on Saturday, brought to you in association with New Zealand Mint for your reading pleasure. My apologies for extreme lateness. One of those weeks. I welcome your additions and comments below, or please send suggestions for Monday's Top 10 at 10 via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz. I'll pop any surplus suggestions I get into the comment stream.
1. What is at stake - George Soros, who knows a thing or two about currencies, makes a strong case for China to let its renminbi rise.
Whether it recognizes it or not, China has emerged as a world leader. If it fails to live up to the responsibilities of leadership, the global currency system is liable to break down and take the world economy with it.
Either way, the Chinese trade surplus is bound to shrink, but it would be much better for China if that happened as a result of rising living standards rather than global economic decline. The chances of a positive outcome are not good, yet we must strive for it, because, in the absence of international cooperation, the world is headed for a period of great turbulence and disruption.
2. Move along, nothing to see here - John Wilson from PIMCO writes at BusinessSpectator that there is no housing bubble in Australia. HT Gummy via email.
The demand for housing is determined by the number of people who are coming into the household forming stage of their lives together with housing affordability. Australia’s immediate economic outlook is supportive of household earnings growth and with interest rates back in mid-range, any further tightening will be modest.
Housing supply will continue to be constrained. Taking all these factors into account it is difficult to conclude that Australia's housing market is in a bubble.
3. Box ticked - Non farm payrolls were worse than expected and now the markets are all set for the US Federal Reserve to start money printing from November 3.
The U.S. lost more jobs than forecast in September as local governments fired educators and other workers to make up for declining tax revenue. Payrolls fell by 95,000 workers after a revised 57,000 decrease in August, the Labor Department said yesterday in Washington. Companies added 64,000 jobs, less than forecast, while the unemployment rate held at 9.6 percent. The Dow rose over 11,000.
“The key driver has been the prospects of quantitative easing,” said Komal Sri-Kumar, the Los Angeles-based chief global strategist at TCW Group Inc. who helps oversee about $109 billion.
“The markets think there could be the increase in money supply coming from the Fed’s renewed purchases of Treasuries. It’s a green signal for investors to take on more risk.”
4.Printing pointless - With all this talk of Fed money printing, various economists are running the numbers through their models and discovering trillions of dollars of bond buying won't actually reduce unemployment much, Bloomberg reports.
For $2 trillion, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke may buy little improvement in growth, employment or inflation over the next two years. Firms with large-scale models of the U.S. economy such as IHS Global Insight, Moody’s Analytics Inc. and Macroeconomic Advisers LLC project only a moderate impact from additional Fed asset purchases.
The firms estimate that the unemployment rate will remain around 9 percent or higher next year whether the Fed buys $500 billion or $2 trillion of U.S. Treasuries in a second round of unconventional stimulus. “This is not a game changer for the economic outlook,” said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts, whose models show that $500 billion of purchases would boost growth 0.1 percentage point in 2011 and leave the unemployment rate at 9 percent or above for the next two years.
“There is clearly a risk that people start to perceive monetary policy as impotent.”
5. Too many shops - Jim Quinn writes at the Burning Platform and here at Naked Capitalism about the problem with commercial property in America.
There is a Part 2 to the story of Consumer Deleveraging that will play out over the next decade.
Consumers will deleverage because they must. They have no choice. Boomers have come to the shocking realization that you can’t get wealthy or retire by borrowing and spending. As consumers buy $500 billion less stuff per year, retailers across the land will suffer.
To give some perspective on our consumer society, here are a few facts:
* There are 105,000 shopping centers in the U.S. In comparison, all of Europe has only 5,700 shopping centers. * There are 1.2 million retail establishments in the U.S. per the Census Bureau. * There is 14.2 BILLION square feet of retail space in the U.S. This is 46 square feet per person in the U.S., compared to 2 square feet per capita in India, 1.5 square feet per capita in Mexico, 23 square feet per capita in the United Kingdom, 13 square feet per capita in Canada, and 6.5 square feet per capita in Australia.
6. Dangers in complexity - Nassim Taleb has some interesting views on how systems need redundancies and inefficiencies to survive. Here John Kay argues the costs of increasing complexity in financial markets and economies outweighs the benefits. Interesting deep thinking read. Kay looks in particular how Rome fell as a civilisation.
What of today’s barbarians at the gate? Trading in securities naturally invites trading in derivatives. Wherever there is a collateralised debt obligation there will soon be a CDO squared. The volume of activity, and the number of people employed in financial services, increases more rapidly than the number of people employed in the underlying trade in goods and services.
For Tainter, the fall of Rome was principally an economic phenomenon. For Gibbon, it followed the decline of civic virtue. So much changes, yet so much remains the same.
7. China won't budge - The big debate now is over China's reluctance to let the renminbi/yuan rise vs the US dollar. Here's the tone of the latest comments from Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, as reported by BBC. They're aren't positive.
In a speech to top EU officials, Mr Wen said a big change in the value of the yuan could cause "social and economic turbulence" in China. Mr Wen said China was still planning to proceed with reforms aimed at "increasing flexibility" in the exchange rate, but suggested it would not be rushed. A sharp rise in the yuan could have disastrous consequences, he said.
"Many of our exporting companies would have to close down, migrant workers would have to return to their villages," Mr Wen warned. "If China saw social and economic turbulence, then it would be a disaster for the world."
8. Yuan as next super-currency? - DNA reports that Joseph Yam, the former head of the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, reckons the renminbi or yuan could become the next super-currency in some shakeout post the US dollar.
Confidence in international currencies could break down to such an extent that it could lead to sharp changes in the near future,” says Joseph Yam, who retired last year as chief executive of the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, the world’s highest paid central banker.
In such a scenario, and in the absence of any other credible alternative to the US dollar as the reserve currency of choice, “the market may in the end turn to a sovereign currency currency — and that currency, I think, could be the renminbi,” he adds.
Yam concedes that there are certain pre-requisites that must typically be met before that eventuality happens: for instance, the yuan should become fully convertible, the domestic debt market in China should acquire depth, and a robust financial infrastructure should be put in place. But, he points out, “these are precisely the strengths of Hong Kong”, where the most ambitious experiment in internationalisation of the yuan is progressively underway.
9. Robo-signer fallout - The fallout from the Robo-signer scandal continues to rumble through the banking system. Analyst Marshall Auerback is now calling for a bank holiday to assess the damage. HT Iain Parker via email.
Most major banks are insolvent and cannot (and should not) be saved. The best approach is something like a banking holiday for the largest 19 banks and shadow banks in which institutions are closed for a relatively brief period. Supervisors move in to assess problems.
It is essential that all big banks be examined during the "holiday" to uncover claims on one another. It is highly likely that supervisors will find that several trillions of dollars of bad assets will turn out to be claims big financial institutions have on one another (that is exactly what was found when AIG was examined - which is why the government bail-out of AIG led to side payments to the big banks and shadow banks)....
By taking over and resolving the biggest 19 banks and netting claims, the collateral damage in the form of losses for other banks and shadow banks will be relatively small.
10. 'America is broke' - David Stockman, the former budget director under President Reagan from 1981 to 1985, reckons America can't afford to extend the Bush tax cuts, which goes against the grain for most conservatives. I think he's right.
Here's the interview in The Fiscal Times (great name for a blog site)
The Fiscal Times (TFT): What should the president and Congress do about the Bush tax cuts this year?
David Stockman (DS): The two parties are in a race to the fiscal bottom to see which one can bury our children and grandchildren deeper in debt. The Republicans were utterly untruthful when they recently pledged no tax increases for anyone, anytime, ever. The Democrats are just as bad — running their usual campaign of political terror on social security and other entitlements while loudly exempting all except the top 2 percent of taxpayers from paying more for the massively underfunded government they insist we need. In effect, we undertook a national leveraged buyout, raising total credit market debt to $52 trillion, which represented a 3.6X leverage ratio against national income or GDP.
The fact is, the Bush tax cuts were unaffordable when enacted a decade ago. Now, two unfinanced wars later, and after a massive Wall Street bailout and trillion-dollar stimulus spending spree, it is nothing less than a fiscal travesty to continue adding $300 billion per year to the national debt. This is especially true since these tax cuts go to the top 50 percent of households, which can get by, if need be, with the surfeit of consumption goods they accumulated during the bubble years. So Congress should allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for everyone. By doing nothing, the government would be committing its first act of fiscal truth-telling in decades.
10. Totally irrelevant video - Donald Duck does Glen Beck, or is it vice versa. HT David via email.
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Foreclosure gate from Ellen Brown at Seeking Alpha. This could get ugly.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/228983-foreclosuregate
HT Andrew via email
What we need to avoid at all costs is “TARP II” – another bank bailout by the taxpayers. No bank is too big to fail. The giant banks can be broken up and replaced with a network of publicly-owned banks and community banks, which could do a substantially better job of serving consumers and businesses than Wall Street is doing now.
cheers
and this leads on o,
http://www.prisonplanet.com/is-a-90-day-mortgage-meltdown-foreclosure-m…
Nice........total fraud.......so much for free markets....
Barry Eichengreen reckons the ECB will eventually have to follow the Fed and print.
The ECB, for its part, needs to start planning for the next battle instead of incessantly fighting the last. If it ends up with an exchange rate of $1.50 to the euro, the European economy tanks, and in the absence of growth the Greek, Irish, and other fiscal austerity programs will collapse. It will only have itself to blame. Here's a prediction: Contrary to what the markets currently assume, the ECB will eventually join the quantitative easing bandwagon. The only question is whether by the time it does it will already be too late.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/10/06/financial_shock_and_awe?page=0,1
cheers
Bernard
Jenni McManus reports at BusinessDay that SCF is being investigated by the authorities and that Duncan Saville reckons he had a deal to buy SCF after the receivership.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/banking-finance/4213863/Deat…
South Canterbury Finance's disclosures to investors in the months leading up to its collapse at the end of August are being investigated by the Securites Commission and the Stock Exchange.
People familiar with the matter say the Government rejected two bids for the company from Sydney-based businessman Duncan Saville – one worth $1.4 billion – between August 27 and 31, and turned down a third post-receivership offer, also from Mr Saville, once it had paid out South Canterbury's $1.6b worth of investors and got its hands on the company's assets.
South Canterbury's negotiators had thought they had an agreement with the Crown for Mr Saville to buy these assets from the receiver as soon as he was appointed. But neither the Government nor the receiver did the deal.
Marshall Auerback makes some great points here about the problems with QEII
The point is that building bank reserves will not increase the bank’s capacity to lend. Loans create deposits which generate reserves. But whereas a policy to target reserves might be in effective, this does not appear to be the objective right now in terms of what the Federal Reserve is currently doing in the US. In effect, it is trashing bonds as well as cash (getting bond yields lower through the promise of additional, but as yet undisclosed, measures) and inciting investors into risk assets, notably equities, on the premise that this will increase spending. In effect the Fed is targeting equity prices as a means of buttressing consumption.
Will it work? With the private non financial debt to GDP ratio still at 170% and only ten percentage points off its highs it appears that there are very high risks in the Fed’s approach. The markets may well call “Helicopter Ben’s” bluff and a failure to see some positive economic outcome from the embrace of outright QE could well cause a serious crisis of confidence in the US markets.
Hmmmmmm , plenty of water in the well of doom & despair , Bernard ! Yuan of these days you'll see the light , and re-join us in the freedom of the marketplace of life ................ Not before the next recession , I suspect . [ if it takes 3 years from the previous one , can you still call it a " double-dip " recession ? ]
Look at at 2007 and compare it to today.
Has unemployment recovered? - no
Have house prices recovered? - no
Have tax receipts recovered? - no
Has the share market recovered? - no
Has the economy recovered to growing at its previous rate? - no
All we see is that the recession has technically recovered... ie our GDP has grown by a tiny amount......
"marketplace for life" is a fantasy place for about libertarian 1000 NZers...its pretty clear that what you want is open season on ordainary ppl....what you dont realise is the same ppl doing it to ordainary ppl will just see you as the same.....just another lamb to the slaughter except u dont need to be conned.....unlike BH who has been able to think his way to see whats being done to us and him I dont think you ever will...
regards
Ed Harrison has an excellent roundup of thinking on the currency wars and what might happen next.
Short-term oriented pump-priming and liquidity injections all around were the first order of the day to stabilise things. Since then, policy makers have been in a desperate attempt to return to the asset-based economy world of external imbalances. But a global economy operating at stall speed simply does not have the lift to support this. The result has been a race to the bottom of beggar-thy-neighbour money printing and currency debasement now potentially leading to tariffs or worse — predictably I would say. In a world short of aggregate demand, economic nationalism becomes the order of the day as politicians look to assuage domestic constituencies suffering through economic depression.
Yesterday, I outlined how we got to this point. The question now is where do we go from here. I certainly believe odds favour escalation and tariffs, not that this is the right policy. But, I would argue that Americans, for example, want protectionism; they want tariffs against China. They have soured on free trade.
cheers
and thats (no more free trade) is good for us, it was a charade...now we wont have dumb pollies signing us up to get screwed over....yeah!
The world is big enough and NZ is small enough with good output that we can re-align elsewhere....sell like crazy to those ppl who have oil and a growing population they cant feed....use the saudi currency (or whatever) as the trade medium even...just bypass the USA.
regards
Donald Trump for US President? God help us all...
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/China-i…
HT Greg via email
cheers
Bernard
If one semi-retard, former alcoholic and drug addict, who dodged military service, and among other perils accused Sadam Hussein of murdering Nelson Mandela etc. can be president, everyone could give it a go
Would the Don be any worse than Bush l & ll , or Barack ...........or worser ......... is that possible ? Oh yeah , .........Nixon , it is possible !
Any worse than Palin?
At least he appears to be pretty intelligent....
regards
Bernard you may have missed http://www.zerohedge.com/article/janet-tavakoli-biggest-fraud-history-c… and BOA halting foreclosures.
Hey Fred : You're up late . Celebrating that Canterbury regained the Log-of-Wood ? I said they woud , weeks ago .
Got Janet Tavakoli's book ............. unfortunately it's in a box on a slow boat from NZ ..... next month I'll see it . Saw her on CNBC , originally .
And late again GBH. A slow boat, what happened to airmail? A PLTD for real then?
Fred,
Great link. You're right. This foreclosure situation is getting ugly. Here's my favourite quote.
Every bank is about to shut down all foreclosures, in what she calls the "biggest fraud in the history of capital markets. Not very surprisingly, we are, so far, spot on in our 29th September projected timeline at this point: "We predict that within a week, all banks will halt every foreclosure currently in process. Within a month, all foreclosures executed within the past 2-3 years will be retried, and millions of existing home sales will be put in jeopardy."
cheers
Bernard
PS Yikes
Yikes , indeed ! I am incentivised to sell everything in NZ , and to sequest myself on a coconut palmed beach in Asia , with lovelly ladies , and lashings of the local gut rot ...... to ride out the forth coming holocaust ........ economic armageddon ........... the fiery depression pits of hell .................... arrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh ............ what do we do if it doesn't happen , Bernard ? Reschedule the end of life as we know it , til sometime next Thursday .......... Thursday good for you ?
Gummy
Friday is good. See you on the beach. Save me some of those lovely ladies
cheers ;)
bernard
Some interesting anecdotes in the comments. Mortgages "pre-approved" even though they were not asked for and ridiculously easy to get after a set of questions over the phone and documents mailed out. It's similar to Crafar skiting about being able to buy a farm at an auction and to ring his bank manager afterwards to sort out the paperwork. It's what you get when bonuses are based on churning out loans. Question is, has it stopped?
Also interesting is the successful challenges in court of the legality of a mortgage contract where the consideration is bank credit created out of thin air. I think this is a real curly one. If, when the mortgage contract was signed you were symbolically handed over a pile of cash, would that "solve" that issue, surely it does. The real issue, the real smoking gun in all of this, is that the other party to the mortgage, the mortgagee, is a ficticious legal person, the corporate bank.
"PS Yikes" - indeed.....
This could be the big one (the black swan).....ie up until now Congress, The Fed have screwed the ppl over...and are mostly getting away with it because the ppl could do nothing. Now however they can go through the courts and strike back and these ppl who have been foreclosed on will be motivated to do so....and the courts wont want to, or be able to, hide this under the mat...there are no back room deals not on this scale.....indeed at what point do the State attorneys jump in and start criminal investigations...?
Of course the banks could just let ppl live rent free, not go to court....huge moral hazard....everyone else sees it and does the same....
The timing might be perfect or a little late....to effect the elections outcome.....not sure......
So the way out is?
10/10 to anyone if you can see one........
regards
Debt forgiveness on a grand scale accompanied by/arising from a new world international order.
No debt forgivness, a mortgage contract is a mortgage contract. Monetise all government debt in one coordinated excercise. This drives all currencies down to their "natural level". All central banks to sell their paper "securities" back to the banks, this drives the bad banks under and lets other good banks buy assets cheaply. All banks to post reserves at the central bank in either gold or liens over real assets. Allow gold to be traded freely amongst currency zones and within currency zones. Banks to hold gold to back their deposits. Banks to publish the price of their gold backing their deposits (ie if the bank goes under the depositer knows exactly how much they will get in gold equivalent) daily. Just a thought.
Contract is a contract, indeed however where that contract was broken morally if not legally I have a hard time in agreeing the contract should be upheld.
By this I mean if you as an individual honestly and fairly take on a contract for 25years and the Govn and bankers/investors destroy that value by their [in-]actions, knowing full well the negative and possibly great impact on you in order to profit even more highly from the contract, should you be totally liable for that contract? for me the answer is no.
regards
But Fred, a mortgage contract is a mortgage contract ... only its not when there is no clear title and it is bought and sold without the knowledge of the other party to the contract.
I had a girlfriend in the States who had her mortgage contract sold 6 times over in 24 months. She was never asked, and therefore never agreed, to the transfer of her mortgage contract to any of these other lending institutions. Twice the new lenders sent her correspondences stating she was in arrears with the previous lender when indeed she was not. Once, immediately on receiving the letter, she rang the new lender - only to find they too had since sold her mortgage contract.... and when she asked to whom given she had not yet been notified of the change, they a) couldn't find the answer to that question and b) weren't sure whether she still had an unresolved alledged outstanding debt with them.
Meantime the house went underwater. She had paid $330K with a deposit of $130K. Then she lost her job (a recently qualified property valuer - not a profession to be in during the bust side of the bubble cycle) and the [then] lender on learning she had lost her job cancelled a provision of her previously agreed mortgage contract - a provision which would have allowed her to draw down on her capital to a certain amount.
The stress got on top of her and she got very ill (was a diabetic but previously well controlled). Her deteriorating condition required medical intervention - an external pancreas. Her adjustment was protracted and difficult, preventing her from seeking alternate employment. When the unemployment benefit ran out, she tried to apply for a disability benefit - chronic diabetes does not qualify (unless you've gone blind or lost a few limbs as a result of it). She began using credit cards to repay the mortgage, the gas bill etc etc. Those quickly maxed out (in no small measure due to the unbelievable interest rates able to be charged on overdue balances). Unable to make mortgage repayments, (none of the relief programs eventually put in place were available at the time) and eventually she was foreclosed on. She moved between various friends, including with us for a small spell, but the diabetes got worse and it was looking as if dialysis was the only option left... it was not an option she could take up under her insurance cover whilst overseas. So, she headed back to the US.
A few months later she turned off her external pancreas and died quietly in her sleep.
Kate, wow, reading through that post on zerohedge it would seem that there are many similar stories. So if the system is rotten to the core, is the big reset the only answer.
See bokun59's comment here http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/10/this_is_the_biggest… as well
Yes, I'm guessing there would not be many Americans who don't have more than one personal friend or acquaintance directly wronged by the officially sanctioned corruption in financial markets over there.
From my reading the principal instrument of this crisis, these "repackaged securities" begot themselves from the US financial markets and let's imagine that the rest-of-the-world moves in a direction in response to these 'bad assets' which is not sanctioned by Washington/Wall Street. The US/USD will likely be "ring-fenced" - what it, the Fed, Wall Street, Congress etc does won't matter outside the US anymore. Wall Street will collapse.
The new world (less the US) political consensus will implement a program of debt forgiveness for all of the 'bad US paper' they purchased/traded in (except for US Treasury debt). The US will seek military allies, but none of the previous Coalition of the Willing will join them this time. They will descend into marshall law and internal order will become their top priority. A UN peacekeeping force will be established in America and aide will flow in from the rest-of-the-world (mainly China).
Perhaps eventually the US will be 'forgiven' it's debt in exchange for military hardware and space systems etc. and the new world order will scuttle/dispose of them, or in the case of space systems, put them to more humanitarian use.
Kate, it would be good if it was resolved as cleanly as this but I don't think that the US military is going to be allowed to just quietly pack up and go home.
and just who takes the hair cut? Savers?
regards
Here's the latest in the Currency Wars. Ukraine is looking at imposing capital controls.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-09/ukraine-may-use-capital-contro…
cheers
Bernard
Mortage default a "blessing"
stop paying your mortage and live rent-free:
Worth reading, also watch Mr Whalen in action.
"CHRISTCHURCH'S INVESTMENT property market has collapsed..."
And, at the same time "demand for rentals has sky-rocketed since the earthquake"
Back you go Iain...let's put the jacket back on, be a good chap....mind the padding on the door....yes we will turn on the calming music.
Iain, I think the issue many have with publically owned banks is that as soon as you do that (nationalise all banks) politicians will see the available seignorage as free money available for pork barrel projects which surely leads misallocation of capital, as bad or worse than as a network of mortgage brokers pumping out credit blowing asset bubbles in real estate and farming, and securitising these loans out the back door. Under your system what about mutual funds, what about depositer owned banks, would these be absorbed into a socialised scheme.
The core issue with the current system is that banking reserves aren't real reserves. Bank created credit money is counted as "good" for a deposit at the central bank. What if the banks were required to stump up something real, a lien over real property or gold. Have you looked at freegold. I think that "freegold" is also a potential solution.
All paper securities have a counterparty. There is no such thing as debt free money, it's impossible. What would happen if you had a banking system where the "public" was a net saver. The banking system had more deposits than it had outstanding loans, therefore across the board the banking systems liabilities are greater than it's assets, therefore every bank would be insolvent, unless they were backed by some higher authority or the banks shareholders capital.
Anyway, what do you think about "freegold".
So here's the question....if you were a wealthy Aymereekan...do you leave the sinking ship with your wealth for a safe destination...Hong Kong maybe!.....or do you stay and pay!
If your a wealthy 'anything', you're probably living where you want to live already. Wealth is a relative thing; to family, community, to your language and compatriots. Just having money in a foreign land is not being wealthy?
Oh come on NA...that might wash with the peasant poor....it just has the rich laughing.
For sure there are wealthy Yanks who are a part of the system and will stay put....Jobs and Buffet are two of many...but countless billions$ have already skipped away as families buy property...in NZ for example!....and invest in foreign sectors.
Being wealthy gives you the option of living anywhere that security can be found.
Key owns property in Hawaii. No doubt his loot is spread across several markets.
That's why you choose to live in NZ, Wally! :)
If you are a USA citizen its not that easy to leave. If a US citizen wants to renounce their citizenship, they have to pay tax (around 50%) on their world wide assets. So you have to stay with the sinking ship.
But I invest elsewhere NA.....that's because I have so much faith in the NZ govt and the RBNZ...they will right the ship and sail us through the storm to greater wealth...yeah sure. Now where can I cash in my jar of 5 cent pieces. 2 years since the crash and the Kiwi is worth 6% less than at the start or 08. In 12 months it will be down by nearer 12%. With financial management like that, who needs Madoff.!
That's why there's no need to leave the sinking ship; only your money should.....
Oh I do agree NA...for Kiwi that is....not so sure the same applies for Yanks.
I think as a Kiwi It is extremely difficult to put us in the shoes of a wealthy Aymeeerican.
and do what? jump on the melting iceberg?
This isnt a single ship sinking, this is like the nazi uboat wolfpacks inside a convoy in WW2...no one knows whos next and if anything will get through....and the water is freezing
ie there is no where to go...this is a global event........the rich, well their money is electonic money....in the Great Depression the US Govn seized real gold....today they just phone the banks and its gone.
regards
Iain - I liked this bit:
"Questioning the Status Quo
Unlike politicians, Mish is smart enough to step out of the existing monetary framework and ask himself what might be a better solution given the extreme situation we’re facing. Why doesn’t he? Why don’t most people? Perhaps they haven’t been faced with the type of austerity that forces a person to question the sanity of a system where all money is controlled by private capital. Or perhaps they’re “survival of the fittest” fundamentalists like Larry Summers, i.e. private sector bondholders deserve to win all the poker chips while everyone else is left with nothing. Or maybe they’ve just been enjoying a comfortable inflationary ride for so long that they can’t fathom the fatal flaw that’s been embedded in the monetary system from the very beginning."
from:
http://csper.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/humanitys-defining-moment-jump-on-board-mish/
Cheers, Les.
"It is New Zealand's largest apartment and has a valuation of $10 million.Cash-strapped property developer David Henderson has been on the lookout for a buyer for his enormous penthouse above the Hilton Hotel on Auckland's Princes Wharf for about two years, with no success."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10679402
That's so strange....where have all the idiots gone to....come on fools....what's else could you do with ten million?
Price aside. Isn't this building damaged? They had to close down x number of rooms in the Hilton, due to that nasty 'leaky' problem.
"The broad measure of unemployment in the USA increased to 17.1% in September"
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article23368.html
17.1%.............arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
Most would take that as the true un-employment until Clinton fiddled the books...
and I think its going to get worse yet...and take years to fix.....
regards
Billy was too busy fiddling with the female staffers , to fiddle with the books ............ Oi , Barack , steer clear of the cigars , old son , that ain't butter on them !
LOL...he actually fiddled quite a bit.....but he did enjoy a relatively good economy and almost balanced the books and he was shock horror, a democrate.
This is the one thing I dont really understand, the GOP should be for reducing Govn as well as taxes instead they are just robbing future Americans blind, I cant imagine anyone doing a worse job if they tried.
If you look at the last 30 years, overall Clinton didnt do too bad a job...he certainly beat the GOP Presidents......before and after him.
regards
Iain,
The freegold idea is quite different from a "gold standard" or requiring transactions to be settled in gold. There is no attempt to lock in the price of paper to gold, in fact it's the other way around, paper floats freely against gold. Therefore there is no issue of ever finding enough gold to settle transactions in gold, it's just that there is a finite amount of gold in the world and if it is freely traded it will find it's own price. It's detailed in the FOFOA blog where he says that at the moment the current value of the US$ would probably be 56,000 per ounce.
Under this system any currency that was loosing spending power (due to excessive deficits by the government or poor lending practices by the banks, or imports greater than exports) would drop in value compared to gold. This drop in value would result in more gold being sold into that currency and this arbitrage would continue till it settled back to it's purchasing parity value.
I think it's actually a very good idea.
Yes watched a few of Damon's videos, he's good (along with Gonzalo Lira and FOFOA)
Vrabel , Drabel .......... you don't even know this clown's name , Iain .
Shit-a-brick buddy , he's your new messiah ........... and you can' get it right who the feck he/she/it is ......... Slowly slowy patient Parky , the nice folks will you pop you into the ,,, ummmmm ..... limousine , and take you back to the clinic ... oooops , sorry , I mean , the " banker-free-fortress " , your highness ......
Who let you out Iain?....I thought you were happy in that padded cell!
How's that mortgage of yours coming along...paid it off yet....how much interest so far Iain...and why did you ask the bank to create that credit in the first place Iain...YOU are the one responsible for the mess we are in. You could have saved up the munny to buy the property, but no you wanted it all now. Your grandparents would be shocked Iain. I bet they didn't borrow munny, Iain.
" those that continue to defend it to the hilt against such weight of evidence are the ones who are really insane, not the conspiracy researcher who exposes the facts."..........haaaaaaaaaaahahaha....what about the conspiracy researcher who borrow created credit with compound interest attached...what about you!
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