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Thursday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: Towelling your car to make money; China's hidden inflation; Has there ever been a more brazen Ponzi scheme?; Dilbert

Thursday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: Towelling your car to make money; China's hidden inflation; Has there ever been a more brazen Ponzi scheme?; Dilbert
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Here are my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 past 1 pm, brought to you in association with New Zealand Mint for your reading pleasure.

I welcome your additions and comments below, or please send suggestions for Friday's Top 10 at 10 via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop any surplus suggestions I get into the comment stream.

1. 'America is sitting on a vast Ponzi scheme' - So says America's biggest bond fund investor. Seriously.

Bill Gross, the managing director of PIMCO, says in his monthly newsletter that the US Federal Reserve is creating a giant Ponzi scheme with its plan to print money. PIMCO manages US$1.3 trillion worth of funds, which is about 9 times NZ GDP. Gross is a very serious player at the highest levels and is closely watched.

For him to accuse the Fed of creating a Ponzi scheme is extraordinary. I suspect this will create some waves.

This would be like the head of AMP here saying Alan Bollard is ruining the economy by running a fraudulent scheme. In public.

It shows how disillusioned and worried many serious players are with the US and global economic situation.

It's today's must read from someone who is no nutter.

We are, as even some Fed Governors now publically admit, in a “liquidity trap,” where interest rates or trillions in QEII asset purchases may not stimulate borrowing or lending because consumer demand is just not there. Escaping from a liquidity trap may be impossible, much like light trapped in a black hole.

Just ask Japan. Ben Bernanke, however, will try – it is, to be honest, all he can do. He can’t raise or lower taxes, he can’t direct a fiscal thrust of infrastructure spending, he can’t change our educational system, he can’t force the Chinese to revalue their currency – it is all he can do, and as he proceeds, the dual questions of “will it work” and “will it create a bond market bubble” will be answered.

Check writing in the trillions is not a bondholder’s friend; it is in fact inflationary, and, if truth be told, somewhat of a Ponzi scheme. Public debt, actually, has always had a Ponzi-like characteristic. Sovereign countries have always implicitly acknowledged that the existing debt would never be paid off because they would “grow” their way out of the apparent predicament, allowing future’s prosperity to continually pay for today’s finance.

Now, however, with growth in doubt, it seems that the Fed has taken Charles Ponzi one step further. Instead of simply paying for maturing debt with receipts from financial sector creditors – banks, insurance companies, surplus reserve nations and investment managers, to name the most significant – the Fed has joined the party itself. Rather than orchestrating the game from on high, it has jumped into the pond with the other swimmers. One and one-half trillion in checks were written in 2009, and trillions more lie ahead.

The Fed, in effect, is telling the markets not to worry about our fiscal deficits, it will be the buyer of first and perhaps last resort. There is no need – as with Charles Ponzi – to find an increasing amount of future gullibles, they will just write the check themselves.

I ask you: Has there ever been a Ponzi scheme so brazen?  

2. Let's play the dirty little game - John Armstrong at NZHerald is uncomfortable with the deal John Key struck with Warners to keep The Hobbit, but he is right that Key's street fighting is the only way forward amid the increasingly ugly Currency Wars. We have to do whatever necessary to keep and grow exports.

We should be just as ruthless in discouraging consumption and encouraging investment locally. Key hasn't gone that far yet. If he was really serious he'd be introducing a land or capital gains tax.

What kind of a country, however, sells its democratic soul for 30 pieces of silver? The answer is a small one. And one where the economy shows little sign of recovery in the short term.

Warner Bros apparently also wanted a lot more in terms of tax relief, although that was a secondary matter. The Government has made the right decision for the film industry and for the wider economy.

Such high stakes bring out the money-trader best in John Key. He may have sacrificed a small piece of New Zealand's sovereignty, but putting laws through Parliament does not cost any extra cold hard cash. 

3. American house prices tank - Clear Capital reports that US house prices slumped 5.9% in September and October.

“Clear Capital’s latest data through October 22 shows even more pronounced price declines than our most recent Home Data Index market report released two weeks ago,” said Dr. Alex Villacorta, senior statistician for Clear Capital. “At the national level, home prices are clearly experiencing a dramatic drop from the tax credit-induced highs, effectively wiping out all of the gains obtained during the flurry of activity just preceding the tax credit expiration.”

The company says this significant drop in prices, in advance of the typical winter housing market slowdowns, “paints an ominous picture” that will likely show up in other home data indices in the coming months. Clear Capital gathers market data on home prices in near real-time and as a result, reports its analysis ahead of other industry gauges (typically two months in front of other indices).  

4. 'Towelled down when driven in the wet' - The key to making money on any investment to make sure you dry off your asset with a towel after it is rained on.

This is the moral I take from the amazing story of the VW Kombi Dormobile CamperVan that has just been sold on TradeMe for NZ$55,700. Six years ago it sold for NZ$4,000. Three years ago it sold for NZ$35,000. Here's the owner Bryce via email below. Congrats to him by the way.

Although he does say in the listing he towelled it down whenever wet. Fair enough then.

Remember that Kombi. It sold for $55,700. So for me from $35,000 to $55,000 in three years is a 16.5% annual rate of return.

I spoke with the guy who I bought it off in 2007, he bought it in 2004 for $5,000. For the both of us from 2004 to 2010 from $5,000 to $55,000 that's a 49% annual rate of return. Oh,and what did the previous owner before that buy it for............? He was given it :-)

I had a new gearbox put in ($4,000). Previous owner had it painted - not sure of exact cost but say ($10,000). Still a 42% annualised return over the last 6 years :) 

5. Hidden inflation surge - Patrick Chovanec is always worth watching on China.

He is an associate professor at Tsinghua University’s School of Economics and Management in Beijing and is much like Michael Pettis in that he is an independent analyst not tied to a government or a bank that can talk authoritatively on China because he lives there and understands what's happening on the ground there..

Here he talks at Bloomberg about a hidden inflation surge going on in China. The tone of the comments is most interesting. HT Hugh via email.

Money, money everywhere. At least that’s what it feels like at the moment in China. Awash in luxury cars, condos and expensive jewelry, the Chinese are enjoying what looks to be an unstoppable boom. But inflation figures due to be released should give pause to those who assume China’s economy is on sound footing.

To an extent few fully appreciate, China’s astonishing growth rates these past two years have been fueled by an even more astonishing expansion of its money supply, by more than 50 percent. Until now, the inflationary consequences have been largely camouflaged in the form of rising asset prices. High-end property prices in dozens of Chinese cities have doubled during the global financial crisis.

Sales of gold bars have done the same this year. Fine pieces of jade are selling at $3,000 an ounce, up 50 percent in the past couple of months, while packets of certain types of dahongpao tea are going for $30,000 a kilogram. Art and wine auctions in China are pulling in record prices. there is rampant inflation in China. It’s just showing up in asset prices. The new money that was created entered the economy as loans, mainly to fund investment in fixed assets. When it finally reached consumers, they bought tangibles, like property, instead of spending on consumer goods.

Asset-price inflation is tricky because it doesn’t feel like inflation. When the price of bread doubles, it feels like it’s getting harder to make ends meet. When condo prices double, it looks like smart investors are getting rich. But it’s only a matter of time before asset inflation starts working its way through the rest of the economy as broader price inflation -- and puts China’s policy makers in a serious bind.  

6. It's a plutocracy now - Here's how American corporates are secretly buying US democracy, according to the Chicago Tribune. The recent Supreme Court ruling on corporates making political donations has unleashed a tidal wave of anonymous spending on campaign ads in the lead-up to the mid term elections on November 2. HT Troy via email.

More than anything else, this is waking up Americans to the fact their democracy is actually a plutocracy, particularly in the wake of the bank bailouts and weak banking reforms.

Big corporate America bought Washington and won't give it up. It's yet another reason not to agree to a Free Trade deal with America.

The Public Campaign Action Fund, a group that advocates for public financing of campaigns, issued a report Tuesday predicting that House candidates alone could spend as much as $1.5 billion by the end of the campaign.

This year's election marks the first time in 100 years that corporations and unions are free to spend their money on election ads. In the past, both companies and unions could encourage their employees or members to give money to political action committees, which in turn could pay for election ads.

But in January, the Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, struck down the legal ban on the use of corporate and union funds for direct election ads. In Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission, the justices said that corporations had the same right to free speech as individuals, and for that reason the government could not stop corporations from spending to help their favored candidates.

In the same decision, however, an 8-1 majority upheld the disclosure laws as vital to democracy. That part of the ruling has gone largely ignored.

7. Where's the money gone? - One of the reasons QE II will struggle to work and is likely to eventually lead to QE III and QE IV is the banks aren't lending out the newly printed money and companies are too scared to invest and hire new staff. Here's Bloomberg on how much is sitting on the sidelines.

U.S. companies are hoarding almost $1 trillion of cash, an amount Moody’s Investors Service says shows borrowers are still concerned the economy may tip back into recession. Cisco Systems Inc., Microsoft Corp. and Google Inc. account for the biggest portion of the $943 billion stockpile, Moody’s said yesterday in a report. That’s up from $937 billion at the end of 2009 and $775 billion in the prior year. Companies have a ratio of cash to capital expenditures of 1.64 times, possibly an all-time high, the New York-based ratings firm said, compared with 1.1 times in December 2008.

Borrowers have bolstered their finances by slashing spending and raising cash, selling $945.8 billion of U.S. corporate bonds this year, following a record $1.23 trillion in 2009, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. While that’s helped corporate credit quality improve, a reluctance to use the money for hiring and investing until more signs of growth emerge isn’t helping shorten a “jobless recovery,” Moody’s said.

“The mantra is better safe than sorry,” said Mark Luschini, chief investment strategist at Philadelphia-based Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, which has $50 billion of assets under management. “Companies have been very aggressive in finding ways to do business without having to hire.”

9. 2010 contraction in US worse than 2008/9 'Great Recession' - Econintersect reckons the contraction in consumer demand in the United States in 2010 has just gotten worse than what was seen during the Great Recession of 2008/09, going from this Consumer Metrics Institute Contraction Watch chart below, which is a leading indicator.

Anything under zero suggests contraction. It's the biggest economy in the world and 70% of it is in consumption... HT Rob via email.

10. Totally irrelevant video - Here's a spoken word song called The Sweater by Meryn Cadell, a Canadian performance artist who later switched gender. Sort of fun.

HT My wife. Not sure what's she's hinting at. Perhaps she wants me to wash my own clothes... Fair enough.

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Apropo the Chinese inflation story.

BBC reports that art buyers are doing anything they can to exchange freshly printed pounds for something tangible, even art and old jewellry. Antiques Roadshow has a lot to answer for...

Consumers saw art as a tangible asset which performed better than other forms of investment, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) said.

But this popularity has pushed up prices, especially of precious metals. Rics surveyed 54 members who specialise in the art market.

"The UK art and antiques market is buoyant at the moment as buyers continue to invest in material assets during uncertain economic times," said Rics chief economist Simon Rubinsohn.

The survey showed that prices of artwork have been rising for seven quarters in a row.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/business-11606422?SThisEM

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Here in New Zealand – my great paintings 10/15 years ago used to sell for NZ$ 1’000.- are now available for NZ$ 165’000.- but hardly anyone pays that price. Why doesn’t happen here - please advice.

Should I move to Wellington ?

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The Aussie banks are being hammered by Australian politicians.

NAB CEO (and former BNZ CEO) Cameron Clyne acknowledges the banks haven't helped themselves...in selling the message....

THE nation's banks have created a public relations problem for themselves after years of failing to explain to customers how they fund their lending book, says National Australia Bank chief executive Cameron Clyne.

''Had we begun many, many years ago to discuss how banks fund themselves, and [that] the RBA was not the setter of funds, we'd be in a better position,'' he said.

''This is basically a PR problem that by and large we've created for ourselves.

''We have got to slowly bring the debate round to how a bank funds itself. Some of these issues are big structural issues for the economy - like the reliance on offshore wholesale funding.''

http://www.businessday.com.au/business/banks-must-take-blame-for-bad-pr-20101027-173xc.html

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China is desperate to get out of US dollars. Is Gold next? A senior official thinks so, Bloomberg reports.

China should buy more gold to diversify its foreign exchange reserves, International Business Daily, a newspaper affiliated with the Ministry of Commerce, reported.

China should increase its gold holdings if the country aspires to “internationalize” its currency, the paper said on its website, citing Meng Qingfa, a researcher at the China Chamber of International Commerce. The 1,054 metric tons of gold reserves are inadequate, compared with the 8,133 tons held by the U.S. and 3,408 tons by Germany, he was cited as saying.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=axYIlcoiAv00

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FYI

Trouble is brewing in Portugal (the P in the PIIGS), BBC reports.

The minority government of Portugal has failed to gain opposition support for its proposed austerity budget.

A failure to pass the budget could plunge the country back into the debt crisis it had seemingly escaped since the summer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11635876

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Bernard

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FYI Chris Whalen points out that US mortgage insurers are insolvent and are perpetuating another giant fraud on the US financial system. Fraudclosure is not going away in a hurry.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/chris-whalen-welcomes-our-new-tyrranical-overlords-prepares-taxpayer-funded-mortgage-insurer

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Bernard

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Wow BH and I thought I was reading many neg pieces........com'on GBH lets see a positive um spin, there must be one somewhere....

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Even Obama's former budget policy director Peter Orszag is critical of QE II.

By perpetuating an artificially low 10-year government bond rate, the Fed may be delaying (even if very modestly, given the modest impact of the action on long rates) the very fiscal policy action that the nation most needs, while doing little to boost an economy whose principal problem is not high long-term interest rates.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/sailing-the-wrong-way-with-qe2/

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Bernard

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But it’s only a matter of time before asset inflation starts working its way through the rest of the economy as broader price inflation -- and puts China’s policy makers in a serious bind.

All this money is being put to good use buying up assets in  Australia and New Zealand.

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I think you are very much wrong.......

A depression is deflationary...right now sure some money is out there....but its the skin of the bubble...underneath is a huge hole that will swallow Trillions...

regards

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I think this is the best answer I've found on whats ahead, sorry Ive posted it before.

 

 



BazzaMcKenzie Today 12:04 AM Recommended by 
17 people Ambrose, you are right to identify the continuation of economic deterioration but you are confusing deflation with depression. Deflation is not itself a problem, depression is, and that is what Western government and central banks have inflicted on the world.

Without continuous expansion of fiat currency, deflation would be the norm in a healthy economy. The reason is simply that industry without government intervention makes continuous gains in productivity and that leads to continuous widespread price reduction. That is deflation.

We have had government, central banks, and even yourself Ambrose, telling us this would be a calamity because everyone would then stop buying. That of course is nonsense.

Look at the whole computer and electronic industry. For decades, everyone has known that the price of a computer or a TV or any number of other electronic goods would be less in a few months than the current price. Did that stop demand? Of course not, we have bought enormous volumes.

Does anyone imagine that if the price of food was falling regularly people would stop eating, or if the price of fuel and cars were falling progressively we would stop buying cars and driving?

Certainly deflation rather than inflation would produce some differences in behavior within economies, in particular a concentration on production, and especially efficient production, rather than speculation. How terrible would that be?

The reason we have long become used to inflation rather than deflation is that inflation is endemic because of currency printing by central banks. Every note or coin of fiat currency produced by a central bank is a tax, of equivalent amount, on the rest of the community, imposed by devaluing all existing currency proportionately, ie inflation.

That is the reason central banks almost always report annual profits. They have a license to steal and declare it as legitimate income. They are deathly afraid of deflation since there would be absolutely no basis for printing more currency and they would go broke. Oh shame! That would be terrible.

Central banks typically pass their surplus profits to national governments, so the latter also have a vested interest in inflation.

This process of continuous creeping taxation, together with more overt taxation, irreversible growth in government regulation and the encouragement of speculation by everyone induced by government sponsored inflation, has destroyed most of the real productive capacity in western nations and made mendicants of a huge proportion of the population.

That is the cause of the depression we are now suffering. The figures you quote are indications of depression not of deflation.

And yes, during depression there can be deflation because demand drops below production, just as there can also be inflation as production drops below demand.

Pushing out more fiat currency to allegedly counteract "deflation" will not restore productive capacity to the economy. In fact, since it is a further huge tax on those holding currency now or in the future, it deters investment and growth. It guarantees continuation of a depression.

The world is in the early years of a depression manufactured in Washington, New York, London, Paris, Bonn, etc.

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This is another commenter in the Telegraph I keep an eye on.

 

jonlivesey Today 03:46 AM   I think that AEP has this one mostly right. QE1 and QE2 are different animals.

QE1 worked, because the problem two years ago was a catastrophic loss of confidence and liquidity. It worked because it replaced illiquid assets with liquid ones. People often insist that QE is "printing money" but really QE is a way of taking less liquid assets out of the system and replacing them with an equal quantity of cash. In a crisis of Banking confidence that is the right thing to do. Banks don't know what commercial and mortgage-backed Bonds are worth in a crisis, but they know what cash is worth.

But today there is no liquidity crisis. In fact, today investors are lining up to exchange their cash for Treasury instruments. Today the problem is that the economy is stuck in a negative spiral of reduced demand and employment. Companies are borrowing money but not investing it since current capacity and staffing levels are good enough to meet current demand. So QE2 will be an attempt to solve a problem that is different to the problem we really have.

And yes, QE2 will increase the money supply, but I doubt if Weimar is really good example here. There was a lot going on the 20s that is not going on today. The German people were right to smell a Government rat, because Germany had a huge domestic debt load that it had taken on while fighting the War. Hyperinflation had the handy side-effect of getting rid of that debt with the added bonus that Germany could blame the Allies for the pain.

But hyperinflation would not solve any real problems for the US today, so I think it is unlikely to happen. Nor do I think that inflation will get out of hand accidentally. The US has had high inflation in the past, in the Seventies for example, so they know how far they can go without things getting too far out of control.

My guess is that QE2 will not "work" for any reasonable meaning of the word, and also that we won't get hyperinflation, but we do face a decade or more of stagflation - GDP growth too low for comfort, and inflation too high This will restrain domestic demand and wages, and after a decade the US will have a much healthier economy, probably less inequality of incomes, less debt to GDP, and more balanced trade, but it will also have a reduced place in the World because it is going to forgo a lot of potential growth. I would not be surprised to see the Dow at 10,000 in 2020 with several dips to 6,000 between now and then.    

BazzaMcKenzie Yesterday 11:28 PM Recommended by 
4 people   The Fed is printing money to finance Obama's deficit and to allow its banks to make a profit lending to the government and through its inflation of the stockmarket.

Thus it is actively working to benefit its key stakeholders at the expense of the general public. That is why it has been so big on money printing and will continue to be so until Congress wipes out the den of corruption now in charge of the US money supply.

The BoE has played the same role in the UK.

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I think Billy is right.  The printed money filters up to a select few.  Savers who think they have been prudent (pension funds etc.) are looted and the few at the top use extracted wealth to bid up the price of the real assets.

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FYI I've added this link to GMO guru Jeremy Grantham's comments on the Fed's money printing

If I were a benevolent dictator, I would strip the Fed of its obligation to worry about the economy and ask it to limit its meddling to attempting to manage infl ation. Better yet I would limit its activities to making sure that the economy had a suitable amount of liquidity to function normally.  Further, I would force it to swear off manipulating asset prices through artifi cially low rates and asymmetric promises of help in tough times – the Greenspan/Bernanke put.

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/10/27/385036/night-of-the-living-fed/

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....... and then the Fed would be as useful as Alan Bollard of the NZ Reverse Bank was , in stopping our ponzi-property bubble , and over-balancing of the economy , into one asset class .

...........do you advocate more central planning controls , or less , Bernard ?  I'm getting a tadge confused now , as to which you advocate .

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This was the Govn's job and not Bollard's.

Depends on what you mean by "central planning controls" maybe...ie more financial regulation, yes....

More carbon tax, yes.

 

regards

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so it's a ponzi kombi. Does it come with a Bambi?

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ROFL

Bernard
 

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If the next buyer maxes out at $2, then it's worth $2.

It's not an investment, it's a ponzi. Same item, no change in function. Alle same houing bubble.

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Love the grammar and phraseing Bernard:

"the contraction in consumer demand in the United States in 2010 has just gotten worse than what was seen during the Great Recession of 2008/09,"

I believe the correct Texan rendering should be something more like this:

"the contraction in consumer demand in the United States in 2010 has just gone done gotten worse than what you'all was seeing during the Great Recession of 2008/09,"

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Ambrose Evans Pritchard points out Goldman Sachs is saying the Fed needs to print US$4 trillion to have  any real impact on the US economy. He is worried about inflation now. HT AndrewJ

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100008351/t…

"We are no longer in a systemic financial crisis, and the Fed’s motives have become subtly corrupted. Having argued during the boom that it was not the business of central banks to stop asset bubbles – and specifically that any fall-out could “safely” be cleaned up later – Bernanke now seems to determined to validate this absurd doctrine, bending all the sinews of the US economic and financial system to this end. One error leads to the next.

Each big inflation – whether the early 1920s in Germany, or the Korean and Vietnam wars in the US – starts with a passive expansion of the quantity money. This sits inert for a surprisingly long time. The effect is much like lighter fuel on a camp fire before the match is struck.

People’s willingness to hold money can change suddenly for a “psychological and spontaneous reason” , causing a spike in the velocity of money. It can occur at lightning speed, over a few weeks. The shift invariably catches economists by surprise. They wait too long to drain the excess money.”

“Velocity took an almost right-angle turn upward in the summer of 1922,” said Mr O Parsson. Reichsbank officials were baffled. They could not fathom why the German people had started to behave differently almost two years after the bank had already boosted the money supply. He contends that public patience snapped abruptly once people lost trust and began to “smell a government rat”.

And here's my favourite quote:

"Lower rates always transfer wealth from retirees (debt owners) to corporations (debt for expansion, theoretically) and the financial industry"

he Fed is right to worry that protracted deflation would be lethal in an economy with total debt at 350pc of GDP. Those who call for a liquidationist policy of mass bankruptcy and default are an even greater danger to political stability than the Bernanke Fed. That policy was enacted from 1930-1932, with observable results.

But I suspect that something else is happening at the Fed. Bernanke is refusing to accept that the US must go through the slow painful cure of debt-deleveraging. He is trying to air-brush away the consequences of 20 years of debt creation and Fed error.

Oh boy

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"..pointing out a bubble – particularly a housing bubble – is very upsetting. After all, almost everyone has a house and, not surprisingly, likes the idea that its recent doubling in value ...Australians ( I'll add, New Zealanders here) violently object to the idea that their houses, which have doubled in value in 8 years and quadrupled in 21, are in a bubble....The key question to ask is: Can a new cohort of young buyers afford to buy starter houses in your city at normal mortgage rates and normal down payment conditions? If not, the game is over and we are just waiting for the ref to blow the whistle. "

http://housesandholes.blogspot.com/

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A lawsuit has been launched over silver market manipulation, Zerohedge reports HT Darryl via email

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jpm-hsbc-sued-conspiracy-keep-silver-p…

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Bernard

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If the QE2 causes inflation in the US and driving the NZD higher, wouldn't New Zealanders have higher purchasing power of imported goods, possibly cheaper petrol as well?

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Yes ..... and No ! Many goods  will get cheaper . But commodities such as oil will rise if the $US falls . ........ So you gain if you can walk to the store to get your essential supply  of Gummy Bears . 

[ keep an emergency fund at all times , St. Nick ;  for Tanduay Rhum / bar hop girls / John Coltrane CD's / Gummies ........ can't be too austere , gotta live a little ! ]

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Where will they get that 'purchasing power' from? Our now uncompetetive exports, or from the amount left after spiralling interest rates have cut disposable household income to the bone with higher mortgage rates?

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Yes and no, we make money by selling abroad that is how a country becomes wealthy....so sure stuff is cheaper to buy except we have no money to buy it with as our goods cost too much and if we dont have manufacturs selling we dont have jobs in manufacturing.... (ignoring increasing debt levels).

regards

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Fascinating really.  All the political by-lines of the neoliberal orthodoxy are crumbling away ... QE doesn't work, TINA won't appease the masses, "trickle down" is laughing matter and now neither do "austerity measures" offer a realistic way forward.

Soon, we will start focusing not on the financial crisis, but the social crisis of capitalism.

Mainstream media has been "snookered" - the alternate fourth estate of crack pot, backyard  "conspiracists" are having the last word, given it has been a conspiracy all along.

Governments will move against the corporatists (because even their money won't be worth the paper its written on) and debt forgiveness for nation states will be on its way.  

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To the tune of:

Can't help myself

Bad Hobbits.....

 

with apologies to BF.

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:-) ... hahahaha ... note I didn't say the emergent inspirational leadership would come from NZed! 

Though I do like Matt McCarten as an independent for Mana.  :-)

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Portugal is trying to raise taxes, one of the few, so far everywhere else its been about cuts because no one feels the immediate pain and blame the Govn unlike a tax hike....

We have had a 30 year experiment in neo-classical/rand/monitorist economics where the ppl have been lied to and the ppl were willing to not look too hard because they thought they were gaining....one huge ponzi scheme....

My parents always warned me about debt, they were right....fortunately I mostly listened, but I dont know if that will make much difference...in effect as a tax payer Im sure to have to pay for others excesses.....nice one.....

Governments will indeed I think move against corporates because ultimately they get voted out if they dont.....taxes will tend to go more progressive and even punitative....and the economy wont suffer mostly becasue there wont be any of it left.

So when I see a political party that gets peak oil and gets taxing the foreign corporations and the mostly idle rich out of here then they will get my vote.

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QE is i think more a sort of quasi-keynesian answer to prop up failed neo-classical/monitorist policies / economics rather than neo-liberal?....sure its being enacted by neo-liberals....who are just as clueless about real keynesian economics as they were the real world....

Trickle down is an obscene joke, when 1% only many times the wealth taht they did atthe start of the experiment thats clearly a total failure....if it was me I'd strip Maggie Thatcher of her honours tomorrow.

However I actually dont see an alternative but take our medicine...

 

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Quite right. Today's version of QE ain't Keynes, anymore than today's version of capitalism is Hayek.  I've always laughed that even the analogies these neolibs concoct are a farce and a lie ... I mean, have you seen any Ben Franklin's being air dropped in the streets of Boston, New York, New Orleans or Chicago?  Nope.

Must be the helicopter fleet GPS's have only one pre-programmed set of coordinates - the helipads atop the monoliths housing the TBTF banks.

  

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Quite right. Today's version of QE ain't Keynes, anymore than today's version of capitalism is Hayek.  I've always laughed that even the analogies these neolibs concoct are a farce and a lie ... I mean, have you seen any Ben Franklin's being air dropped in the streets of Boston, New York, New Orleans or Chicago?  Nope.

Must be the helicopter fleet GPS's have only one pre-programmed set of coordinates - the helipads atop the monoliths housing the TBTF banks.

  

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I was wondering if anyone could help.  There was a link to a great article on this site yesterday about comparing the NZ and Aussie housing markets and how they were overvalued.  I just can't find it anymore - can anyone help.  I really want to email the link to a mate of mine.  Cheers in advance for any help.
 

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Awesome - Cheers very much Kiwi Dave!!!

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