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Monday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: A New Capitalist Manifesto; Mark and Eric's quick flick for NZ$20 mln; A Mid-Western hero; The Iron Chancellor; Dilberts

Monday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: A New Capitalist Manifesto; Mark and Eric's quick flick for NZ$20 mln; A Mid-Western hero; The Iron Chancellor; Dilberts

Here's my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 past 11 pm in association with NZ Mint.

I welcome your additions in the comments below or via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop the extras into the comment stream.

1. The New Capitalist Manifesto - Harvard Business Review author Umair Haque was interviewed by Andrew Patterson on his Sunday Business show on Radio Live.

It's a must listen.

Click here.

I'm a big fan of Haque's stuff. See his columns here.

He's written a book called The New Capitalist Manifesto. I'm looking forward to reading it.

He goes beyond the usual response to the Global Financial Crisis.

He's not talking about a return to Keynesianism or Monetarism or Marxism.

He essentially says companies need to try to create long term value by building useful products and services that don't rip off customers and employees.

He rightly points out that the Wall St version of capitalism has failed with its short term focus on bigger bonuses for managers and financial engineering.

2. I'm no fan of Obama - Here's another reason why. He has just fired a State Department spokesman who dared to criticise the "ridiculous, counterproductive and stupid" conditions under which alleged Wikileaker Private Bradley Manning was being held.

Here's Glenn Greenwald at Salon with some obvious points.

So, in Barack Obama's administration, it's perfectly acceptable to abuse an American citizen in detention who has been convicted of nothing by consigning him to 23-hour-a-day solitary confinement, barring him from exercising in his cell, punitively imposing "suicide watch" restrictions on him against the recommendations of brig psychiatrists, and subjecting him to prolonged, forced nudity designed to humiliate and degrade. But speaking out against that abuse is a firing offense. Good to know.

Of course, it's also the case in Barack Obama's world that those who instituted a worldwide torture and illegal eavesdropping regime are entitled to full-scale presidential immunity, while powerless individuals who blow the whistle on high-level wrongdoing and illegality are subjected to the most aggressive campaign of prosecution and persecution the country has ever seen. So protecting those who are abusing Manning, while firing Crowley for condemning the abuse, is perfectly consistent with the President's sense of justice.

Also, remember how one frequent Democratic critique made of the Right generally and the Bush administration specifically was that they can't and won't tolerate dissent: everyone is required to march in lockstep? I wonder how that will be reconciled with this.

3. Our hero Hoenig - Time has a nice profile of Thomas Hoenig, the Kansas Fed Governor who regularly voted against the majority of the Fed's Open Markets Committee when they voted to print more money. He has been rotated off the FOMC now, but here's his thinking:

Hoenig's domain stretches across Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado and parts of Missouri and New Mexico. Surveying those states, his economists find that the price of farmland is escalating wildly. "Agricultural land is appreciating almost weekly," he says. Energy prices are booming as well.

There is more going on here than a simple rise in economic activity, Hoenig thinks. Rocketing land and energy prices are telltale signs, he says, of too much money sloshing around. "When you put this much liquidity into the system, it has to go somewhere."

It won't go into savings as long as the Fed keeps interest rates near zero. So the money starts chasing assets with higher yields — like land, the once again booming stock market and energy (indeed, some savvy Wall Street investors believe quantitative easing is a major factor in the current run-up in oil prices). As more money joins the chase, asset prices rise and keep rising until ...pop.

4. Here's how Mark and Eric did it - Greg Ninness at the Sunday Star Times has a useful piece explaining how Mark Hotchin and Eric Watson personally profited by flicking a former camping ground near Queenstown onto Nigel McKenna for NZ$20 million profit.

They did it by ensuring investor's money in Hanover Finance helped McKenna buy the asset for an inflated price off Messrs Watson and Hotchin's personal company, Hanover Equity partners.

The deal was especially sweet for Hanover (Equity Partners) because it didn't even take legal possession. Ownership was transferred directly from Carter's company to Melview, with Hanover simply clipping the ticket on the way through.

And Melview didn't have to look far for the money to settle the deal. That came from Hanover Finance, which provided Melview with an $80m loan for the development, secured by a second mortgage.

Although Melview also had first mortgage funding, provided at first by Commonwealth Bank of Australia, it is usual in developments of this nature for the second mortgage funds to be drawn down first. Which meant Hanover Finance's money funded the deal.

The result was that Hanover Equity Partners ended up with $20m cash and Hanover Finance and the mum and dad investors who provided the company with its money ended up carrying the risk. That risk has since been crystalised.

5. The Iron Chancellor - Weekend meetings to try to resolve the European Sovereign Debt crisis ended with the Germans dictating austerity for Greece and Portugal. The Telegraph's Ambrose Evans Pritchard surveys the territory and has a suitably blood curdling conclusion. This is far from over.

Popular revolt is the dog that has not barked since the long slump began. This may just be a question of time. The pattern of the 1930s is that deep alienation starts in year three as austerity grinds on, and in this case tensions on the eurozone peripery can only turn nastier as the ECB tightens monetary policy.

What is clear is that sovereign states are being forced to cut wages and dismantle parts of their welfare state under foreign diktat, with a gun held to their heads. This will not be forgotten lightly. The character of the European Project has changed utterly.

6. Still buying bonds - The European Central Bank is still being forced to buy bonds from the likes of Portugal and Greece. Here's Bloomberg.

The euro leaders’ decision to buy bonds in the primary markets “looks to be an alternative to providing liquidity loans, rather than taking over the role of secondary market support that the ECB has been doing,” David Mackie, JPMorgan Chase Co.’s London-based chief European economist, said in a March 12 note.

“It looks like the ECB has failed in its attempt to have the EFSF take over this task.”

7. The Australians are saving hard - David Uren at The Australian looks at the strange reluctance of Australian consumers to spend. They're saving hard.

I think Australians know in their bones that housing is overvalued and they're getting ready for prices to stop rising at the very least.

The December quarter accounts showed clearly that household spending has stalled. Income growth over the previous year of almost 9 per cent had translated into spending growth of only 4.5 per cent in nominal terms. Retail sales are down to growth of only 2 per cent. Both results are much worse once allowance is made for inflation.

Household savings have now stood at close to 10 per cent of disposable income for the past two quarters, up from around 3 per cent before the global financial crisis. That is roughly $65 billion a year that is being saved rather than spent had pre-crisis savings patterns been maintained.

Recollecting that about $20bn a year was the most that the federal government was able to shovel out the door in a single year under its stimulus programs gives some idea of the dimensions of the wet blanket that consumers are throwing over the economy now. The Reserve Bank estimates that 35c out of every additional dollar in income growth is being saved.

8. Extend and Pretend - Germany and France are trying to block new Basel III rules that would force their banks to fess up how much debt they are relying on. Bloomberg has the story.

Germany and France are fighting global rules that would force lenders such as Deutsche Bank AG and BNP Paribas SA to reveal their reliance on debt, according to an internal note prepared by the European Commission.

The euro region’s two biggest economies are “fiercely against” proposals drawn up by the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision for lenders to reveal as soon as 2015 whether they would meet a cap on borrowing, known as a leverage ratio, that may only become binding three years later. Austria and Greece are also opposed, according to the document obtained by Bloomberg News.

The “total transparency” may put pressure on lenders to meet the leverage rules three years early, the countries argue, according to the commission document. The nations may accept publication of methods regulators use to measure “leverage risk” that don’t identify specific banks, the document says.

9. 'We're different' - Reuters reports The Irish are still confident they can convince the Iron Chancellor Angela Merkel later this month to cut the interest rate on their rescue plan. They should be ready to hear "Nein". They might lose their precious 12.5% corporate tax rate to boot.

Ireland's new government, swept into power two weeks ago, believes the country's banks are placing an unsustainable burden on the state and wants Europe to give it more time to shrink the sector and more help meeting its capital requirements.

European leaders agreed on Saturday to cut the interest rate on loans to Greece and strengthen the region's bailout fund to try and defuse a year-long debt crisis.

Ireland, which agreed to an 85-billion-euro ($118.2 billion) joint EU/IMF rescue package late last year, did not get a similar reduction after Kenny refused to give in to pressure to raise the country's 12.5 percent rate of corporate tax, viewed as anti-competitive by higher tax European nations.

10. Totally cool video - Michael Laws said some less than charitable things about a person with Aspergers Syndrome in the Sunday Star Times. He described Arie Smith as a 'looting rat' with feral features.  

Smith has Asperger's. Big deal. It was not severe enough for him to require care, nor for him not to be unaware that stealing was wrong. So he had a compulsion. Many people do. But they don't take advantage of others' misery or exploit a natural disaster to satisfy that compulsion.

In the end, justice has been done, blackened eye and all. Now let's similarly identify the other Christchurch looters and mete out similar justice. 

All I would say to Michael Laws is please watch this video about Aspergers Syndrome. My daughter has Aspergers. She's wonderful. Just like the professional surfer in this video. I don't know about Arie Smith, and I suspect Michael Laws doesn't either. He needs to do some research. Here's a start.

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FYI from Cosmic via email. Very interesting on the Japanese nuclear issues.

Now here is some interesting info re Japan

One of the reactors at one of the plants is MOX reactor which means it is fuel of Mixed Oxides (a mix of enriched uranium and plutonium) which is, according to good source, many times more deadly than just enriched uranium and if it were to meltdown and go atmospheric the consequences are unimaginable.

Japan’s MOx Reactor Fuel

http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/japans-mox-reactor-fuel/

The plutonium (and uranium) in used fuel can be recovered through reprocessing. The plutonium could then be used in the manufacture mixed oxide (MOX) nuclear fuel, to provide energy through electricity generation. A single recycle of plutonium in the form of MOX fuel increases the energy derived from the original uranium by some 12%, and if the uranium is also recycled this becomes about 22% (based on light water reactor fuel with burn-up of 45 GWd/tU).”

 NOTE:  MOX plants "breed" high grade weapon nuclear material.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x627709

Now get your head around this one – Japan has two separate electricity grids that operate at two different frequencies and right now in this severe emergency the grids cannot interoperate – so whereas one part of Japan could  wind up their plants to max output and send desperately needed power to the eastern parts of Japan which are suffering chronic outage they cannot do so because the grid on the other side cannot take the different frequency – so no go.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2225.html

The frequency of electric current is 50 Hertz in Eastern Japan (including Tokyo, Yokohama, Tohoku, Hokkaido) and 60 Hertz in Western Japan (including Nagoya, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima, Shikoku, Kyushu)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency

Both frequencies co-exist today (some countries such as Japan use both) with no technical reason to prefer one over the other and no apparent desire for complete worldwide standardization. Unless specified by the manufacturer to operate on both 50 and 60 Hz, appliances may not operate efficiently or even safely if used on anything other than the intended frequency.

Niiiiice

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Glad you brought this up, I posted about this theme just at 11.15 pm on the other thread,  you  have got some more useful links, thanks!

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PM - bring Kiwis back home - now !

Great Bernard !

Here another link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOX_fuel

I think one of the greatest problems with this and other technologies, the majority of the population don’t know much about nuclear power stations and only 10% how they work and the big secret maybe not even 5% know the components and fuel they are using. So, we all relay on controversial so called “experts”. Can we trust them ? Certainly not !

translated from German to English

The radiotoxicity of plutonium, however, is huge: Even taking a lot of double-digit milligram range is considered fatal, while the lethal dose is between one gram of uranium and five grams - depending on how it enters the body. More dangerous, however, the radioactivity of plutonium. If the substance is inhaled, enough probably already a lot of a few micrograms to trigger cancer. The alpha radiation from plutonium can not penetrate the skin, cause inside the body, but severe radiation damage - especially to the bone and liver.

Considering the situation - people living in Japan and surrounding countries - leave as soon as you can.

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Checking on the last number of days reading comments/ articles from so called experts in different fields, earning big bugs with a smile - the world is full of liars, poisoned by arrogance and greed.

I say that again time to make them accountable - don't leave them in power sack them or .....

good morning Chris_

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As you can see with this wind animation for the next number of days Tokyo will (could) be affected :

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/bild-750835-191816.html

 Winds are weak and forecasted rain could add to the bad scenario too.

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I think one of the greatest problems with this and other technologies, the majority of the population don’t know much about nuclear power stations and only 10% how they work and the big secret maybe not even 5% know the components and fuel they are using.

 

LOL Thanks Kunst - you demonstrate your own point nicely -  you have made me chuckle despite the tradgedies occurring in Japan.

To use an oft used quote - "Better to keep quiet and have people think you are stupid, rather than open your mouth and confirm it.."

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I don't profess to know much about nuclear power stations and how they work but I believe I know what is required to produce nuclear power.

There is, in my opinion a more important issue than the possible safety aspects mentioned about and that is the environmental/social impact. 

The process requires Uranium, which is apparently in abundance in the earth's crust, but spread out over vast areas.  The volume of uranium required is quite significant and as with any other mineral needs to be mined.  To be financially viable there also needs to be large volumes in concentrated areas.  Uranium is not a renewable source.

 Olympic Dam[6]:

  • Olympic Dam, located in the South Australian desert outside the town of Roxby Downs, is Australia's biggest uranium resource. The mine is on the land of the Kokatha people and draws water from the land of the Arabunna people.
  • In 2005 BHP Billiton (BHPB) took over Western Mining Corporation inheriting not only ownership of Olympic Dam but the Roxby Indenture Act. This allows for extravafant exceptions to environmental and cultural heritage legislation protection.
  • BHPB plans to make Olympic Dam the largest open-cut mine in the world by digging a pit of about 20 cubic kms. Export of uranium is expected to increase from an average of 4000 tonnes per year to 19,000 tonnes per year and production of copper, gold and silver is also expected to increase.
  • Tailings: The production of radioactive tailings, stored above ground, will increase to 70 million tonnes annually. Currently, tailings are producted at a rate of 10 million tonnes annually and the stockpile amounts to 100 million tonnes. The tailings dam contain a toxic, acidic soup of radionuclides and heavy metals and are responsible for large numbers of bird deaths - over 100 deaths in a four-days period in 2004. There have been numerous spills and leaks - most significantly in 1994, when it was revealed that three billion litres had leaked from the tailings dams over two years.
  • Water: BHP Billiton proposes an increase in water consumption from 35 million litres daily (from the Great Artesian Basin) to 150 million litres daily (up to 42 million litres from the Great Artesian Basin, the remainder from a proposed desalination plant at Port Bonython). The water take from the Great Artesian Basin had adverse impacts on the precious Mound Springs and needs to be reduced or stopped altogether. BHP Billiton pays nothing for its massive water take despite recording a profit of A$ 22 billion in 2007/08.
  • Electricity: Electricity demand for the mine will increase from 120 megawatts to 690 megawatts - equivalent to 42 % of South Australia's current total electricity consumption. Electricity will be supplied from the SA grid and/or an on-site gas-fired plant, with no government requirement or company plans for any electricity to be supplied from renewable energy sources.
  • Nuclear Weapons Proliferation: There is an unacceptable risk of uranium from Roxby Downs finding its way into nuclear weapons. Accounting discrepancies involving Australia's uranium exports are common. International Atomic Energy Agency Director-General Dr. Mohamed El Baradei has acknowledged that the IAEA's rights of inspection are "fairly limited", that the 'safeguards' system is subject to "vulnerabilities" and "clearly needs reinforcement", that efforts to improve the system have been "half-hearted", and that the safeguards system operates on a "shoestring budget ... comparable to a local police department". Uranium production at Roxby is expected to increase to 19,000 tonnes per year, sufficient to fuel 95 power reactors which will produce 18.5 tonnes of plutonium each year - enough for 2,850 nuclear weapons each year.

There are many more mines like this one around the world.  Kazakhstan is the worlds largest producer of uranium (14.000 tonnes in 2009) followed by Canada.  As with any other "commodity" recent increases in value mean increased activity in discovering and extracting the mineral.  In 2009, 10 companies marketed 89% of the world's uranium mine production.

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The Wikileaks Bank of America stuff is starting to come out via the Anonymous hacker group

http://twitter.com/OperationLeakS

Could have implications for QBE, the new owners of Balboa.

"My name is (Anonymous). For the last 7 years, I worked in the Insurance/Mortgage industry for a company called Balboa Insurance. Many of you do not know who Balboa Insurance Group (soon to be rebranded as QBE First by Australian Reinsurance Company QBE according to internal communication sent to all Balboa associates) is, but if you’ve ever had a loan for an automobile, farm equipment, mobile home, or residential or commercial property, we knew you. In fact, we probably charged you money…a lot of money…for insurance you didn’t even need."

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The nuclear reactor at Fukushima may be blowing off radioactive steam for weeks or even months according to this NYTimes report...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/world/asia/japan-fukushima-nuclear-reactor.html?_r=1&hp

"Japanese reactor operators now have little choice but to periodically release radioactive steam as part of an emergency cooling process for the fuel of the stricken reactors that may continue for a year or more even after fission has stopped. The plant’s operator must constantly try to flood the reactors with seawater, then release the resulting radioactive steam into the atmosphere, several experts familiar with the design of the Daiichi facility said."

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Great article about an old record, stuck in a groove.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=107…

More neocon nonsense of course, however you should never let a good crisis go to waste.

 

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What do we call heaps of Black Swans all flying in on the same day!....I sit here wondering whether the sheeple in NZ are capable of understanding what the ramifications might be of the Sedai quake if that is to be it's name.

Hey Alan...did you generate confidence or did you cement in place a growing fear that the RBNZ and the govt have lost the plot?

 

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The heritage facades can be rebuilt in GRP and faked to look like walls of rubble.

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 "Aluminium and timber, New Zealand's two most valuable exports to Japan at more than $1 billion, could be even more in demand after the devastating earthquake and tsunami. But Japanese businesses already have large stakes in both commodities here because they are major long-term foreign investors." herald

I did ask which would be first to announce price increases..looks like it will be wood and ply

Japanese demand will certainly lead to this hike and it may mean more employment for those in the forestry to lumber yard chain...which region will benefit from that...but the demand for cement in japan will drive construction costs much higher here...contractors in Chch will factor that in plus a risk % when they submit prices.

Elsewhere across NZ in the regions...expect building activity to grind to a halt.

So how will Alan determine the duration of his 'Heroin fix for confidence' move when Auckland and Chch have heated inflation but elsewhere we have a deeper recession! 

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OIL:  I think attention is drifting off the unrest in Arab countries and the risks to both supply and price of oil, which are likely to escalate over time with scarcity and demography issues.

As reported in Stuff:

"it is difficult to see prices easing here. Finance Minister Bill English said in parliament last week that more oil price spikes were "possible".

Asked why New Zealand didn't have a strategy to reduce its vulnerability, he said: "People are pretty sensible. When they see prices going up, they start thinking about whether they want to continue with their energy-intensive lifestyles."

And English said the government would "probably not" support an official inquiry into how New Zealand could best protect its economy from ongoing high oil prices"

So its put your head in the sand, hope for the best, and business as usual.  Typical of our "do-nothing" governments. 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4763712/Dependence-on-oil-comes-a…

Cheers to all.

 

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Seems to me the consensus round here is that all "pollies" are incompetent, possibly even corrupt, and don't have a clue about the way the real world works; and simultaneously, that they should be playing a far more active role in intervening in markets, anticipating supply and demand developments and correcting the individual choices that none of us, even in response to a strong and clear price signal, is capable of making for ourselves.

Don't agree with either.  I think Mr English is very wise to recognise that Governments probably can't do better than market forces in developing responses to changing supply-demand balances, and usually stuff it up when they try.  I only wish he and his like woudl do so more often.

 

 

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Ms de Meanour:  Well, I am a fan of market forces in many situations.  However, if there is some crisis in the future, would market forces be able to react in time?  eg oil suddenly bumps up to $200 / barrell, & petrol to $3 / litre or so.  Or a shitty Israeli - Iranian war, supply suddenly cut off.  Is everyone suddenly going to dump their gas guzzlers & electric scooters & public transport suddenly fill the gap over a few days or weeks? 

Hard to imagine, isn't it.  So govt can massage behaviour in a better direction eg by increasing tax on fuel (NZ has one of the cheapest fuel in the OECD), having higher registration costs for gas guzzlers than small vehicles, etc.  Take a look at Europe, where they run far less energy-intensive economies that we do.  We stick to the US / Oz model, to our peril.

I'm not saying English is corrupt.  I'm just saying he is as readily influenced by past history, short-termism, myopia, & the power of special interests as other pollies.

Thanks for your comments. 

Cheers

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With the NZ economy in the fragile state it is in and voters under the financial pressure they are, the immediate costs, both political and economic, of a petrol tax hike are not trivial. Are those costs justified?

That requires a judgement about the potential future benefits; and I would submit that market participants have just as much information about the probabilities of various future developments and their impact on oil supply and prices, just as much (if not more) analytical resource and expertise to help them get it right, and just as much incentive to make the call as to whether it is worth incurring costs now to enable a better response to a potential future scenario, as Governments do.

That's because if there were to be such a crisis, anybody who had invested in being able to provide energy-saving technology or alternative forms of energy generation would make a lot of money. But if there were no such crisis, they might wish they had invested in something else like their competitors.

I'd rather not look too closely at the European model, thanks. I came to NZ to escape from it ...

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Mde M - eh????????

can you simplify that a bit?

Do you mean that you think there's something called 'the economy', that its' 'important', and that something called ' the free market' ( which closely resenbles a school of baitfish) is the way to address it?

 

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Sorry, my prose does get a bit involved sometimes.  I'll try to explain more carefully.

Should Government impose certain costs on the economy now, in order to avert potential costs later? 

That decision requires a comparison of the present costs, with the benefit of  reducing the potential for future costs. If the present costs are greater than the probability-weighted future benefits, then it is not worth incurring the present costs.

Present costs are reasonably easily calculated.  The benefit of avoiding future costs, however, is more difficult and requires a judgement as to the probability of various potential future scenarios, and the costs that they will impose if they do occur.

Proposition #1: That Government has no especial information or expertise which makes it better able to assess the probability and cost of different potential future scenarios, than market participants.

Since we all seem confident that "pollies" are a bunch of short-sighted idiots, I'm sure you'll have no problem agreeing with that.

Proposition #2: That businesses who are interested in making a private profit, have every incentive to carry out that assessment and to make investment decisions accordingly.

I imagine that this is where I lose you, but my reasoning is as follows: If it does come about that the oil price doubles, businesses who have invested in being able to supply energy-saving technologies and alternative forms of energy, will stand to make a great deal of money; and businesses who have decided instead to take their chances and remain exposed to the oil price, will stand to lose a great deal of money.

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MdM

I thought that was what you were about.

 It's not the price that is the worry - at all. It's the energy supply. I suspect you're of the persuasion that at a certain price, an alternative is always found, ad infinitum. That persuasion almost always ignores the fact that work requires energy, and absolutely fails to grasp the possibility of ultimate scarcity.

No energy, no work.

No work, no money. (or at least, nothig to buy).

Peak energy (calorific content) = peak work, the only variable being efficiencies.

When the 'making or not making' of money is your only yardstick, it's a bit of a nonsense-measure to use to 'value' its underwrite, isn't it?

A whole lot of 'this year's bottom line, or my ass is on the line' decision-makers, aren't going to address the Limits to Growth. That needs good leadership, long vision, courage.

That won't be found in business circles, and maybe not anomg our current crop of pollies.

But good governance is what will be needed.

 

 

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Ms de M:  What extra costs?

If the govt puts more tax on petrol, it can simply reduce tax elsewhere - so zero extra costs

If it chooses to charge a higher registration on an SUV (eg $1000), but makes the rego on an 800cc Suzuki free, then there is again zero cost.

If the govt introduced these things, people would start to think "Do I actually need those two SUVs in the driveway, & live on a lifestyle block 20 km from the city limits?" 

It is just about massaging behaviours to allow for a less friendly future environment.

Good debate

Cheers

 

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Philly,Raising fuel tax doesn't always target those that pollute. The less efficient a dielsel vehicle is in NZ the less it pays for diesel.  The more efficient a diesel vehicle is, the more it pays for diesel.  Why, because road user charges are based solely on weight - nothing to do with efficiency and no differential between cars and trucks. Here's an example using figures to keep the math simple and using a base rate of $1.50/l for diesel at the pumps:

A diesel 2ton vehicle that does 7.5litres/100km. Pump cost for diesel for 100kms is $11.25 PLUS road user charges of $4.43 = $15.68 or $2.09/litre 2 ton would cover a diesel car

A 3ton vehicle does 15litres/100km. Pump cost $22.50 PLUS road user charges of $4.65 = $27.15 or $1.81/litre 3 ton would cover a ute/small truck

Diesel is supposed to be less polluting yet the less you pollute, the more you get penalised.  Likewise for electric cars that pay RUC.

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Casual Observer:  Sure, I accept that.  I think that some commentators have suggested that road user charges should be euthenased as past their use-by date, & replaced with a tax-from-the-storage-tank system, similar to petrol. 

From vague memory, I think that the road user chargers were put in place to meet farmers' need (much of their diesel not related to use of the roads); however with the advent of diesel powered cars etc only a small fraction of diesel is now used on farms

As you point out, another example of unintended consequences, which should be tidied up.

Thanks for your comments, cheers to all. 

 

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The difference with Govn's is they have a responsibility to the Nation and hence its future, a company is only concerned for its own well being its actions can even be detrimental to other companies, persons and the Nation....Enron would be a classic example.  Pollies are short sighted, yes, unfortunatley,

Busineses dont seem to be carrying out that assessemnt because their focus is the next 20 weeks, not even 20months and no way 20 years....

So the oil price doubles, well it has in a few years, it was not that long ago we were paying $1 a litre...now its over $2.......and what action have Comapanies taken? some have indeed clubed together and tried to raise concerns to Govn....very little traction.

Where your logic breaks down is right now we can afford to do something about future energy problems, by investing (though frankly its limited, its too late to do much), but 5 and certianly 10 years from now lots of businesses will be going bust....the changes will be too fast and too large for them to cope with....if the Govn had or does start some really serious redirection this year, NZ is small enough for such action to pay off.... it wont happen, this is the second oil crisis, maybe on the 3rd or 4th the then Govn will get it....

The alternatives are frankly not going to do much, as there are no alternatives with the energy return and the scalability....in terms of likely future scenarios try looking up the Robert Hirsch report 2005.....its quite simple the impacts of peak oil back then looked bad, today the rate of increase in consumption of india and china is way more significant than expected, so its even worse....

Busineses will indeed loose a great deal of money and value....those without a govn granted monopoly or with same by some private method are vey liekly to close up....thats serious un-employment.

You shouldnt worry about losing money, you should be worrying about losing society.

regards

 

 

 

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Ms de Meanour

There's only one answer to that:

"Yeah, right!"

Cheers

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she probably lost focus already.

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Lol this all makes me think of Mad Max.

Anyone want to take odds on when the first petrol tanker gets carjacked.

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can we have someone other than Tina Turner this time around please?

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I think I'd rather have Tina than Rantin' Mel, thank you

 

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The fourth turning is upon us!

 http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article26899.html

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 "The fuel rods at a third nuclear reactor in Japan have been fully exposed to air, allowing them to heat up and raising the risk of a meltdown. But the International Atomic Energy Agency says a full scale catastrope is unlikely…"

So why are so many running like hell...

Don't they have any faith in the announcements from the bureaucrats and pollies....

Why not?

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1) off that is a piece tums up how i feel about the situation,

http://blogs.hbr.org/haque/2011/02/we_all_work_at_enron_now.html

regards

 

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Inspiring stuff! A good read.

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"That is roughly $65 billion a year that is being saved rather than spent had pre-crisis savings patterns been maintained. Recollecting that about $20bn a year was the most that the federal government was able to shovel out the door in a single year under its stimulus programs gives some idea of the dimensions of the wet blanket that consumers are throwing over the economy now."

and here comes inflation? or higher OCRs?  no way jose....

When you take $65Billion out and the best you can do is put $20billion back, thats $45billion in sales lost that means something has to give...so deflation in the retail and non-essential areas.

Ditto monopolistic services likes rates etc....they take more 4 to 8% so the hole just gets bigger in other areas.....

and the rest of the world is doing the same, and house prices will [continue to]  rise?  I dont see how....

regards

 

 

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re #1 

 

does anybody know where i could download an mp3 of that interview (or any radio live interviews for that matter) ?

 

streaming isn't that convenient for me....

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BH, are you saying that Hotchin and Watson personally made off with $20 million from the sale of this development in Queenstown? Or are you basing this just on an article in the Sunday Start Times? 

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David M:  you are very right to challenge Bernard on this point.  After all, any such behaviour would be very inconsistent with Mark & Eric's proven transparency and ethical concern for and treatment of their investors.

Darn, when is this site going to get that sarcasm font installed!?

Cheers

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I used the word profited (quite a legal phrase) rather than 'made off'. Just reporting what the SST reported...

cheers

Bernard

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AUD in freefall and NZD close behind.

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And that'll push petrol past $2.50 a litre.... diesel to close in on $2 and what will this do for food prices...transport....everything!...will the unions suck it and see?

 

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they'll blame it on the bank executives being paid too much.

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Don't worry.

Ms de Meanour (see thread above) tells us that all users of fossil fuels will have been fully informed of this likelihood, & will have made rational decisions to protect themselves from its effects. 

So business as usual

Cheers to all

[& memo to Bernard: you really must work on that sarcasm font!]

 

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and their choices are what?

Kick up a huge stink now and hand National the next election?....because that would be the result........ppl would look at Labour and say Union stooges....Phil has little chance of ever being elected PM anyway.....that would seal it.

The problem is no one is prepared to dictate what we do, ie a re-direction of the whole economy....thats actually a huge task and no one will do it becasue short term those that dont will cream them....so it has to be the painful way.....coming to us inside this decade...

regards

 

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Goofy has ruled out doing a post-election deal with Hone Harawira ....... Even if that hands victory to the Nats in November .... What a splendid fellow  Phil  is ....... he who lambasted JK for ruling out any deal between the Nats and Winsome Peters .......

........... Another 3 years Goofy , 3 more years !

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Reports of radiation levels 400x annual limits around reactor at Fukushima.

Winds could blow this to Tokyo in 8 hours.

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We drove down from BoP to the Mainland today.  MOTH does this several times a year but today he commented on how few cars there were on the road, compared to times past.  The price of fuel finally making an impact?

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