
Here's my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 4 pm in association with NZ Mint.
I welcome your additions in the comments below or via email tobernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.
I'll pop the extras into the comment stream. See all previous Top 10s here.
My must read today is #3. Its a sobering read about Europe. Another one. Have a great weekend.
1. 23 years of weaker growth? - Anyone hoping (and forecasting) a rebound to 'normal' growth rates may have to wait a long time.
That includes John Key and Bill English.
Simply betting on economic growth, which seems to be what most of the western world is doing right now, may be a forlorn task.
Carmen Reinhart, Vincent Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff (R3) say growth for indebted economies has been lower than 'normal' for an average of 23 years in the periods of high debt they studied since the early 1800s.
Here's the chart that shows what means for cumulative growth over that period. I've linked to a report on this study before, but it's still blowing my mind a little. Needs repeating.
The implications are profound. It means wholesale revaluations of assets and massive debt restructures. Sounds a lot like what Europe is going through right now.
Here's James Pethokoukis with his view:
This paper represents a deeper dive into the issue than previous research by Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart, though their general conclusion — high debt lowers growth — is the same. And the chart at the top of the post shows the cumulative impact of years of slower growth. There’s a big different between having a $21 trillion economy in 2035 and a $28 trillion one. Anyone have use for an extra $7 trillion?
Two other key points that R3 make:
1. Don’t wait for markets to freak out before cutting debt levels. “Contrary to popular perception, we find that in 11 of the 26 debt overhang cases, real interest rates were either lower or about the same as during the lower debt/GDP years. Those waiting for financial markets to send the warning signal through higher interest rates that government policy will be detrimental to economic performance may be waiting a long time.”
This observation fits well with one now being made by Eurasia Group. As the consulting firms sees things, the U.S. will continue to be able to finance its deficit and debt cheaply in part because of continued global safe haven status. “But while this is a benefit, it also ‘curses’ the U.S. into a period of fiscal complacency.” As long as rates are low, there will be little pressure for a “grand bargain” to cut debt, according to the firm. But as R3 show, that path may doom America to years or decades of subpar economic growth.
2. Another cracker from Michael Field - Fresh from exposing the Foreign Chartered Vessels scandal, Michael Field from Fairfax has dug again into what seems like a bottomless pit of New Zealand shell companies being used to commit fraud overseas.
When is the government going to act on this? It's bizarre that Commerce Minister Craig Foss still has confidence in the Companies office on this.
Another New Zealand shell company has been linked to an alleged fraud worth more than US$150m - this time involving Ukrainian state-owned companies.
The company, Falcona Systems Ltd of Albany, Auckland, was struck off the New Zealand Company Register last October but only after it was used to gain $150m in kickbacks for Ukrainian and Latvian officials, according to East European media reports.
The latest allegations involving New Zealand shell companies comes five days after Fairfax Media was told by the Latvia Finance Ministry that New Zealand had been struck off a European Union banking and corporate ''white list'' over our weak money laundering and terrorism financing controls.
3. Europe's bond exodus - The FT's Richard Milne reports on the run going on in Europe's bond markets and how it may be more important than any bank run.
JPMorgan analysts estimate €200bn of Italian government bonds and €80bn of Spanish bonds have been sold by foreign investors in the past nine months, more than 10 per cent of each market.
Matt King, a credit strategist at Citi, has gone further, peering into the detail of the infamous Target2 balances, which track cross-border payments in the eurozone. Much attention has focused on how Germany’s Target2 surplus has been increasing rapidly while peripheral eurozone countries’ deficits have soared. Mr King takes balance of payment data from each country, which shows all cross-border capital flows, and subtracts Target2 and other public sector flows to show how much foreign capital flight there has been. The results are pretty frightening.
Spain has seen €100bn of outflows, about 10 per cent of GDP, since the middle of last year. Italy has been even worse affected – the latest figures show €230bn has flown out of the country in the same period, close to 15 per cent of output.
Much of the selling has been done under the cover of the European Central Bank’s cheap-loans programme for banks, known as longer-term refinancing operations. Foreign investors have used the thirst from domestic bondholders for local paper to get out.
And China is catching up fast. All this ageing helps explain #1 above too. A structral shift lower in economic growth is happening as populations age, the world fails to distribute income fairly and technologists fail to find new breakthroughs to boost productivity and economic growth.
Companies are rushing to grab a bigger chunk of the estimated 109 trillion yen ($1.4 trillion) that consumers over 60 spent in the year ended March 31 in Japan. The number of Japanese over 65 hit a record 23.3 percent of the population in October.
“We perceive this change as a golden opportunity for growth,” Shohei Murai, executive vice president of supermarket operator Aeon Co. (8267), told reporters in March. “In the ‘80s and ’90s, Aeon set families that were the massive majority in terms of population as its main target. Now the elderly are going to be the engine of consumption.”
Unicharm, Japan’s largest diaper maker, said it’s counting on just that. The Tokyo-based company said the lessons it’s learning in Japan will help its expansion in China, where the population at or above 65 rose to 8.87 percent of the total as of Nov. 1, 2010, up 1.91 percentage points from the 2000 census. China introduced a one-child policy in 1979 to curb population growth.
“China will necessarily face the aging society at a faster pace than Japan because of the one-child policy,” said Unicharm Chief Executive Officer Takahisa Takahara in April. “We have the responsibility to take Japan’s standards and spread it into Asia.”
5. Watch out for India - Reuters reports: "India faces mass default and restructuring as devaluation looms."
The headline caught my attention. The story itself is more nuanced, but still...
India's mounting economic and political woes are prompting market players to raise the specter of a Greek-style crisis in Asia's third largest economy.
This is not simply idle speculation. Last Friday, the rupee crashed to an all-time low against the dollar of 54.9 and it was stuck most of Tuesday at the psychologically significant Rs55/USD level, where the currency is seen as having no obvious technical support. And the implications of a rupee collapse would be immense.
"It could go to stratospheric levels against the dollar and it looks to me as if the Indian government is aiming at a de facto devaluation in an effort to prop up flagging economic growth. And you then have to worry about all the unpleasant boxes such an action would inevitably tick, such as straining further the country's already strained balance of payments as well as bringing on an almighty wave of inflationary pressure," said a credit analyst at a ratings agency in Singapore.
6. I want this guy on my side - This Reuters profile of bond lawyer Lee Buchheit is fascinating. He represented the Greek government in ...aaah.... negotiations with bondholders. More like he held the gun of default at their heads and restructured the debt.
Over the last 30 years, presidents and finance ministers have turned to Buchheit, 61, more than any other lawyer to help call off creditors when their governments run out of money.
His clients love him because he can help wipe away billions of dollars of debt. His legal opponents - bond investors, some of them so-called vulture funds - hate him for the same reason.
Among the folders in Buchheit's office is one labeled "VULTURES." It refers to investors who specialize in buying distressed debt and often end up battling Buchheit and Cleary in courts around the world for payment on the bonds they have bought, often at pennies on the dollar. There's no love lost.
"Yeah, they hate my guts," Buchheit said. The sting of the Greece write-down and particularly the way Buchheit engineered it has served to harden those positions. Some investors fear the increased use of collective action clauses has tipped the debt restructuring game in favor of governments over investors forever.
7. Chinese crackdown - CNN reports Chinese police have begun turfing out foreigners without their papers in recent weeks. Things are getting more heated in Beijing by the day as a leadership transition grinds through the gears. This is another reason why China may not be able to bail out Australasia again.
The crackdown has left a bitter taste in the mouths of many, not least those who have resided in the city for years and see it as home. Media worker Jacob Trent was pulled off his bike by the police on Saturday and demanded to produce his papers. "I have been living here for a decade and yet I still get treated like -- and sometimes called -- a foreign barbarian," lamented the American, who speaks perfect Mandarin and is engaged to a Chinese girl.
Another longtime expat, David Park, was equally distressed. "I have noticed a change in how I am treated. It has gone from curiosity to hostility," commented Park. The 27-year-old, an employee at a renewable energy firm, has been contemplating a move back to England. These events will make his decision easier, he said.
Lars Laaman, a professor of Chinese history at London's SOAS, who has lived in the capital on and off since the 1980s, says these incidents only occur when the government is feeling uneasy," he commented, alluding to events that have gripped the nation over the past few months such as the dramatic fall from power of Chongqing party chief Bo Xilai.
8. Under water - Think America's economy is going to recover any time soon? Check out this interactive map at Zillow showing which parts of the country are underwater on their mortgages and by how much.
In Clark County in Nevada (Las Vegas) 71% of houses are in negative equity.
9. Don't take your money out - The Guardian reports Greek police telling locals not to take their euros out of their bank accounts and stuff them in their mattresses.
They say this could be dangerous and lead to theft...
Watch out for a bank bailout over the weekend.
Greece's banks are likely to be shored up on Friday or Monday with €18bn (£14bn) of bailout funds they have been due to receive for weeks but which were held up by political uncertainty caused by inconclusive elections. Greece goes to the polls again on June 17, further stoking fears about its future within the euro.
The scale of withdrawals from Greek banks – almost 25% of deposits have been taken out in the past two years – and fears that other countries may suffer mass withdrawals has led to speculation that a eurozone-wide guarantee is needed to maintain confidence in the banking system.
Greece's national police spokesman, Thanassis Kokkalakis, told Reuters: "Many people have withdrawn their money from the banks fearing a financial crash, and they either carry it on them, find a hideout at home or in storage rooms.
"We urge people to trust the banking system, leave their money there, or at least in a safe place, not hide it at home, where they must anyway take the basic security measures."
10. Totally Clarke and Dawe on the Western Australian Premier charging business leaders A$25,000 for a meeting...
He could do a cup of coffee and a croissant for A$23,000...
37 Comments
The #1 article would seem to suggest that borrowing for stimulus may actually reduce growth for a very long time? Well that's interesting. So the choice is borrow and spend for some growth while the money is pouring out of the helicopter, followed by decades of repayment headache, or trying to live within your means starting from now. It's a shame we've given the choice to people seeking re-election before the headache kicks in.
uh no......that is not correct what a pair of austrian blinkers u wear. The idea is stimulus is to get us back to the previous state of the economy, hence we can repay. Further austerity isnt working and that can be clearly seen in the Great Depression and its being repeated now eg UK.
regards
Hell steven, do you actually re-read what you type?
Where has there been austerity? The budget just delivered by Bill English has in dollar terms a much bigger government spend than the last budget delivered by Labour. Outside of possibly the UK, no European government has whittled down State spend at all: all austerity has boiled down to is more taxation: little wonder Europe's next step is the high-jump, and people with any sense are bailing out (as they are from US).
And how do you expect the 'stimulus' that got the West in the debt-ridden mess it is, is going to be solved by more stimulus? You have the thinking of a credit-addict: and that has been the problem, because that is what governments have become to build their police states that we're all now trapped in.
... one leetle thing that has been overlooked in the austerity which Germany was demanding of the other Eurozone countries ..... the Eurozone commissinars have granted themselves an increase in their operating budget far greater than all the austerity " savings " of the Eurozone saps ....... ooops , I meant " participants ! " ..
Yes , the bureaucratic monster that controls these countries , has an insatiable appetite for their money !
Austerity doesn't "work" in the sense of recreating the standard of living that you would be able to enjoy if your earnings were (what you earn + what you borrow), it works in the sense that at some point the gyrations will settle down close to what you earn anyway. And as mentioned above austerity doesn't mean literaly living withing your actual income, as that would be an immense shock to people who have an "inflated" view of what their efforts should be able to purchase.
#9. Almost laughable. The money at the top-table has long gone. Only 25% ?. That's a laugh. That statement is for the consumption of the plebs, the soldiers, the poor, the remainder who couldn't afford to get out, the ones left carrying the bag. Plenty of articles over the past two years. This is just one of them.
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/greeks-bearing-gifts/
Remember when this all began.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zcTjhXSmnmc
FYI from China, via Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-24/china-banks-may-miss-loan-targ…
China’s biggest banks may fall short of loan targets for the first time in at least seven years as an economic slowdown crimps demand for credit, three bank officials with knowledge of the matter said.
A decline in lending in April and May means it’s likely the banks’ total new loans for 2012 will be about 7 trillion yuan ($1.1 trillion), less than an estimated government goal of 8 trillion yuan to 8.5 trillion yuan, said one of the officials, declining to be identified because the person isn’t authorized to speak publicly. Banks are relying on small and mid-sized companies for loan growth after demand from the biggest state- owned borrowers dropped, the people said.
And more here from NY Times on China's slowdown:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/business/global/chinas-once-hot-econo…
XI’AN, China — A nationwide real estate downturn, stalling exports and declining consumer confidence have produced what a Chinese cabinet adviser, quoted on the official government Web site on Thursday, characterized as a “sharp slowdown in the economy.”
China’s economy was 8.1 percent larger in the first quarter of this year than a year earlier, but virtually all of that growth took place last year. The economy barely grew in the first quarter compared with the fourth quarter of 2011, and the second quarter of this year is likely to show even less growth from the preceding quarter, said Diana Choyleva, a China economist in the Hong Kong office of Lombard Street Research.
The World Bank also warned on Wednesday of a slowdown.
“Clearly the economy is much, much weaker than most people thought until recently,” Ms. Choyleva said. “They have a real mess on their hands.”
... love the MIB Barack Obama cartoon ........
Gotta question for the troops ( re. Facebook IPO ) : Why do retail investors still believe the likes of GS and JPMorgan ? .... have they forgotten the GFC already ...... feck , we're still mired in it !
... if you wanna lose face , biff your money into an overpriced overhyped internet stock , from which the insiders & founders are selling out ! ....
.. and if you really wanna make a tit of yourself , attempt to deflect blame from your own stupidity by blaming the underwriters , and sue them !
Their job was to spruik the IPO : That was what they were paid handsomely to do ...... your job is to brush up on your Latin : Caveat emptor .
hindsight.....eh GBH......
but yes Im god smacked that ppl stupid enough to think FB was a goer are now sueing....
regards
Many forgot that the initials FB also stand for " flat broke " ......
...... but people do love to use Facebook ( so I am informed ) .... the question is , how does FB cash in on that ? ......
Which is why Google , and Amazon are surer internet bets ..... there's greater clarity to how they monetize their services ......
Hey Hugh : The CEO of Lend Lease ( ASX : LLC ) was on Radio National ( Australia ) this morning ..... being interviewed about the construction of the world's tallest wooden building , a 10 storey tower in Melbourne .....
... sounds perfect for Canterbury !
He said the wood composite is fire impermeable ... And cheap !
..... apparently the Canadians have plans for a 30 storey building , using 20 metre lengths of LSL ( laminated strand lumber ) .....
Buttering up to the lefties at the Listener I suspect, who are programmed to think every silly idea is "visionary".
Ah, I was wondering why I thought that cheap sections on the periphery of cities was so visionary.
Hugh
I suspect NZ's future is very grim indeed unless the govt sort out the housing supply joke in the next 3 years
If they don't then I would label this govt the worst in NZ's history
Sure is a dangerous game.
A young engineer in our Auckland company committed theft as a servant this week. His excuse? Can't afford to live on a grad's salary, and eventually wants to afford a house. He's basically stuffed his entire career.
Why would anyone with half a brain want to live in Auckland unless they already have significant equity in property?
Oh wait, It's the lifestyle, the lifestyle, the fresh air!
Most Aucklanders don't have time for a flipping lifestyle, they are too busy sucking exhaust fumes in traffic jams, and working to pay a mortgage for their cold, badly built, leaky house. May as well be living in any other metropolis around the globe, earning and saving more $ than is on offer here.
Yes, yes, there are other benefits of living in Auckland. but can someone please, please, remind me of them?
The zoo is good .
I thought the zoo was in Wellington?
... the animals in the Auckland zoo are better behaved ....... a freaking sight more cuddly & personable too ...
Len Brown cudly and personable? Well I guess we have to cater to all tastes.
... hmmm ... seems there are two zoos , one with an extra scratching post ......
Resorting to crime in order to obtain the better things in life will get sympathy from no one.
There aren't really any mitigating circumstances because I'm sure if there was dire need (such as family illness etc) that in approaching the employer, assistance may be offered especially to a young graduate.
I suspect that anyone dishonest enough to embezzle simply because they wanted a house should be fired and never again employed in a professional industry that requires integrity. (It reminds me of the disgraceful Otago Health Board employees who stole $17m most of which is still not recovered and probably held in foreign accounts or with others).
Auckland is only expensive in the desirable inner areas, further out house for house it's not dissimilar to other major centres. You can buy a nice big modern home (not leaky) in a close in suburb on the North Shore for $600s or $700s or perhaps a bit more in the outer Eastern Suburbs (St Johns etc). These are big family homes not starter homes.
http://www.realestate.co.nz/1762236 if that had been in Avonhead ChCh it would have been low $600s at least
http://www.realestate.co.nz/1771012 if that was in a similar area in ChCh it would be late $500s
or further out in the $500s
http://www.realestate.co.nz/1732805 that one probably would be too much less in an equivalent area in ChCh
You can get a foothold in the market for around $500k in the close in suburbs. An ex state on a full 670m2 section in Meadowbank sold for $463k at Barfoots last week - not exactly breaking the bank to get into decile 9 or 10 school zones.
If you don't work in the CBD the outer areas offer plenty of selection in the $300s and $400s.
Houses have always been expensive, fantasies about dirt cheap houses relate to when areas such as central Auckland were undesirable and in a state of dereliction.
This single young woman would perhaps disagree with it being hard to buy in Auckland (and it's even subdividable):
http://www.3news.co.nz/Saving-for-a-house---its-possible/tabid/817/arti…
Hugh, people have been carping on about affordability for years even when prices were relatively more affordable!
Do you recall Charles Drace? He wrote a book published in 1998 talking about the forthcoming 40% crash in property prices:
http://www.wheelers.co.nz/books/9780958376204-how-to-survive-the-new-ze…
Instead we had a 100%+ increase in prices.
Why?
For the same reason you don't understand housing markets at all. Housing never looks particularly affordable at the outset, however a number of factors mean that (apart from when the market is crazy) you are better to be in the market as an owner than a renter.
It struck me as bizarre that at a time (late 90s) you could buy a do up in ChCh for $60,000 and interest rates were coming back down to the 7/8% levels, that anyone would think property was unaffordable. But they did. And they moaned. And they missed out.
I went to auctions and the only people bidding on houses in the $30,000 to $40,000 range were people like me wanting to rent them out and get ahead. No first home buyers, even though they could have probably saved the entire purchase price in a couple of years if 2 people were working full time in average jobs!
Today we see something similar (in ChCh). You can buy a house for $90,000 with a bit of EQ damage and no insurance (but perfectly liveable). It's below land value and the banks will lend the money if you have a deposit, yet no one is buying except people like me! Even with insurance (to do all the repairs) some quite good houses are only $170ish, and pretty good ones for low $200s. Is it really that unaffordable?
Yes we have an issue with bureaucratic cost in consenting, development contributions and imposed consent conditions. However making those changes will not change affordability in sought after locations, it will only affect the cost of new housing and by my reckoning it would perhaps reduce a $550k new house to maybe $450k. It's not going to change the world, but I'm all for making those changes, as there will be some good benefits of there being more construction activity.
It always concerns me when people quote US figures biased by the rust belts and dereliction of city centres.
Take a look at CNBC's recent "most expensive places to rent" list. Detroit, the home of the $100 house and a $7,000 median one month a couple of years ago, is the 5th most expensive city in the US to rent in (ahead of Boston etc):
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46428574?slide=7
That tells me one thing: there are thousands of worthless uninhabitable houses that no one wants, but quality homes in good locations are actually relatively pricey and relatively sought after.
The same is true in all of those cities with cheap centres. People don't want scunge-ville they want something desirable.
So why should we be knocking up new Manurewas and Aranuis all across the farmland borders of our cities?
For who would we be building? And to what end?
We need quality development, competitively priced with sufficient suburban space without the wastefulness of South Auckland's ghettos of 90m2 boxes on a quarter acre over grown paddock.
As I said a hundred times before Hugh, it's simply not viable to build at the prices you suggest, these new homes will not be $250k all up, they will end at being at least $400k all up.
We've had the mass rezoning (enough for 26,000 sections - ChCh only had 120,000 odd to start off with so a 20%+ increase) and nothing has happened to prices.
So why not Hugh? Because land rezoning isn't the only factor. It's the real cost of development that is the main component of price and pushing the actual cost onto the future owner (via municipal funding as you suggest) is the only way to achieve significantly lower prices. But is that what homebuyers want? An extra $2000 a year in taxes (probably in perpetuity) which they could have avoided by paying up front an extra $30,000 or so?
Personally I believe that a large amount of the artificial development contribution costs need removed BUT as I've said before, it would only cut section prices to perhaps the $110k level - which would be about the best that could be achieved.
Campaigning for $50k sections is not only unrealistic but unnecessary and even if it did happen on the fringes, wouldn't alter the prices in the centre of Auckland or Wellington (who knows with ChCh with so many other factors in play).
I welcome your contributions on this topic Chris, but I read your reference to Aranui almost as a slur. My dear wife bought there in 1995 after the breakup of her first marriage, because with her share of matrimonial property settlement it was one of the few areas in Chch she could afford without mortgaging herself to the absolute limit as to what she could repay. Two lessons here:
1. Cut your coat according to your cloth.
2. Wife understood the value of home ownership as opposed to renting. Bought her first house at age of 18 (Hugh please note).
Later on when we married we extended the house in Aranui (it was in one of the better streets) and later still sold it for what could have been a record price for the suburb (in 2005) to move to Avondale and a bigger house for our larger family. While we lived in Aranui the nature of the street started to change, when my wife moved there almost all houses were owner occupied, most owners (but not all) it was their first home and they eventually (like us) bought something (maybe bigger or in a better area) elsewhere. Sort of a stepping stone suburb if you see. But the Aranui houses started to be bought by landlords (after a few months it was easy to spot the rentals) rather than first-home buyers. This trend got what I call self-perpetuating critical mass so that the situation became streets largely composed of rentals that first-home buyers (for the most part) didn't want to buy into, even though it was still one of the most afordable areas of Chch.Questions:
1. Is affordability more important to landlords than first-home buyers, or did growth in the landlord group start to crowd out first-home buyers?
2. Are first home buyers becoming more discerning (or snobbish)?
No one seems to build houses like the Aranui ones anymore. No garage (usually biult later when funds allowed), one bathroom, one lounge, basic kitchen, 3 bedrooms, all up under 100m2. They didn't leak though. Why no build? Is it high land prices, or no market for something this basic (i.e. have tastes changed)?
Re your observation on municipal bond funding of infrastructure, I tend to side with Hugh on this one. Either way, the money is borrowed. Surely the local authority ( with its monopolistic revenue stream) can borrow on better and longer terms than the homeowner.Yes rates would be higher, but you would be paying MORE money to the bank otherwise. Also, local authority loans used to be a feature of our capital markets, better than dodgy finance companies by a long chalk. Furthermore, when you own a house, effectively you rent the infrastructure from the provider (the council), if you paid for it upfront YOU should own it, not the Council.Up front figures are the biggest obstacle to first-home buyers in my view. I believe this barrier should be lowered, so I welcome any debate as to how this can be achieved.
agree with Hugh that this is a load of bollocks Chris, with all due respect
If "Cheap" houses are late 300s, early 400s, then how many low-mid income households (on say 50-70K) can afford that?
Not many
It's a farce. In Adelaide NEW 3 bedroom starter homes are selling for circa 280K within 30-40 mins of the CBD. Allowing for Auckland's slightly higher average salaries, thats probably equivalent to say $320K in NZ. And these are new homes that should hardly need any maintenance or expensive renovation work in the next 15-20 years, unlike old dungers in NZ selling for early 400s and needing plenty of maintenance
Its not as if there isn't a solution. The solution is not difficult at all. Liberalise planning controls in both the urban areas and on the fringes and we'll start seeing construciton surge again, and NEW starter homes selling for less than 320K in outer Auckland, and less than 420K in middle Auckland
The National Govt's appallingly slow action on these issues really makes the blood boil. Thanks to "smile and Do Nothing" KEy, the country is going down the gurgler
You're looking with rose tinted glasses Matt. Auckland is a slightly bigger population in a much more difficult geographical layout.
A similar property to what you suggest is probably something way out south in Papakura at mid $300s:
http://www.realestate.co.nz/1734024
But out there a starter 1970s on its on 700m2 is under $200k:
http://www.realestate.co.nz/1732509
Developing desirable suburbs with quality houses where people want to live is far more important than creating lots of cheap rubbish.
I'm amazed you didn't buy in Central Auckland when you were moaning 2 years ago Matt, if you had you probably would have picked up a 20% capital gain. (I remember a bargain I linked to on here in Epsom (just down the road from Bernard's) for $600k is easily worth 50% more now in just 2 and bit years).
In big improving cities there is always demand from newcomers to the city wanting to buy into those desirable inner areas. Buying a less than perfect house on a good piece of land is the best way to get into those areas and it can still be done in Central Auckland at a reasonable price (that is over $600k though). I'm not sure why young people expect to be able to buy into the most desirable and expensive locations 6 months after they start work on a single wage!
The strange thing is that nearly all the normal young couples I know, who worked for a few years before having families now own their own home with no or next to no mortgage aged early 30s (many have rental properties too) and some have upgraded at least 2 or 3 times to very upmarket homes (and they all only have regular type jobs).
A lot of people could never buy even if prices were a tenth of what they are. It all comes down to actually just getting on with it.
All that being said, I think there are ways housing could be done better, including selling down state houses in central Auckland, and cutting development contributions and consent costs, as well realistic zoning changes.
All up that won't however make any significant change to existing house prices unless there is a lot of overbuilding.
Because Auckland has such a good record at providing "quality houses" !?
You're right, the leaky fiasco and the low standard of housing being built (in terms of design quality) needs addressed.
Those are issues that should be focused on together with reduced council fees and contributions. Hugh's talk of going further and actually having the services and possibly roading paid by the council via municipal bonds that are repaid by the future owners is a step too far.
Hugh should focus energy on getting the fees and costs back to reality and getting quality design and construction methods adopted.
The housing issue needs a whole package that looks at developing state housing assets and creating growth through a more stable housing construction industry.
$50,000 sections are not even part of the solution. $120,000 sections could be a goal. Then focus on how to actually get construction of new homes which aren't leaky dungers at a reasonable price level.
Would there be enough people in New Zealand who want to live in a 111 story building in the first place?
I agree with selling down state houses in central Auckland. Get beneficiaries into newly built, higher density, well-insulated homes a bit further out. Let home-owners in to maintain & upgrade the homes & perhaps make better use of the land.
Exactly....if I had to go to Auckalnd, I might as well go to OZ or UK....pointless.
regards
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/90c47616-a581-11e1-a77b-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1vsTcJPdz
By Michiyo Nakamoto in Tokyo
Asahi Group Holdings is re-examining the NZ$1.5bn it paid last year for New Zealand beverages group, Independent Liquor, in an unusual admission by a company that it may have overpaid for an acquisition.
“We felt there was a gap between the price that we paid and the actual value of the company,” a representative of the Japanese beer group said.
uh huh.....Im sorry what part of stupid is hard to understand.....they did I assume due diligence....signed a contract.....then find they paid too much.....
regards
uh huh.....Im sorry what part of stupid is hard to understand.....they did I assume due diligence....signed a contract.....then find they paid too much.....
regards
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Dear Nigerian Scammer,
I am a Greek Prince desperately trying to get my money out of the country but because of restrictions on the amount of money one can take out of Greece I'm worried my vast wealth will disappear when my country is booted out of the Euro.
I need you to let me transfer the sum of 38,000,000 Euro into your bank account as a matter of great urgency. I am willing to pay you 75% of this deposit in return for your help.
If you agree to help, please send me your bank account details and your sisters vital statistics. You will have to send me the transfer fees of 76,000,000 Euro or the bank won't put the money in your account. Do this immediately, my terminal illness will prevent me completing the transfer if you don't send me all your money now.
Please hurry, my fortune is vaporising quickly.
Phillip.
".....the ultimate JPM loss will reach several hundred $billion and grow with time"!
So how will the poorly performing UK border security system cope with the flood of piigs peasants ....the exodus will block the highways and choke the rail systems of the EU.....!!!
Are we to see boat people crossing the Atlantic...!Greek oil tanks.
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