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Henry Thomson is following two elections this year and is looking at how COVID politics play out in each of them. Voters have choices soon about who we want in charge making pandemic decisions

Henry Thomson is following two elections this year and is looking at how COVID politics play out in each of them. Voters have choices soon about who we want in charge making pandemic decisions

New Zealand and the United States have two things in common this Fall (or Spring, depending on which side of the equator you’re sitting on): Both countries will have elections, and the Covid-19 pandemic will play an outsized role in the contests on each side of the Pacific. But the terms of the debate over Covid-19 and the likely resonance of proposed policies are vastly different.

In New Zealand, the debate between the incumbent Labour and opposition National parties on Covid-19 is occurring within very narrow bounds.

The virus was (initially) eliminated from the country after the government imposed a quarantine regime for arrivals. Labour is running on that record, promising voters it will impose measures to eliminate the current outbreak in Auckland and optimize the quarantine regime to prevent further outbreaks in the future.

The National party is criticizing the government’s handling of the quarantine and promising to implement an even more stringent control on those entering the country, thus preventing further outbreaks.

Kiwi voters can choose which improved Covid-19 quarantine measures they prefer.

There is no secret behind the lack of variation in these policy platforms: Surveys in New Zealand, and Victoria, show large majorities supporting strict policies that restrict travel, business operations and individuals’ activities to prevent the spread of the virus.

In the United States, party conventions over the past two weeks have shown a much broader debate over Covid-19 and its implications for the country.

Nominating conventions have long been a feature of US presidential politics. It is at the convention that each party’s state delegates formally nominate their candidate for president. Today, the nominee is usually clear before the convention because delegates are pledged to support nominees after the primaries and caucuses that occur through the Winter and Spring. But primaries are a relatively recent (post-1970s) development and conventions used to be much more important. The populist William Jennings Bryan became the youngest ever presidential nominee on the strength of a barnstorming speech railing against the Gold Standard at the 1896 Democratic National Convention. (It is somehow hard to imagine contemporary populists making hay out of such a technical issue.)

This year there were no barnstorming speeches or surprises of any kind because the nominees are uncontested and the conventions have been held virtually, making them chillingly reminiscent of a Zoom faculty meeting, online corporate compliance training session, or in the memorable words of Marianne Williamson, like binge watching a Marriott commercial.

Readers, in a profound manifestation of my commitment to you, I subjected myself to several minutes of both the Democratic and Republican conventions to be fully informed before writing this column. (I then watched the most important speeches on YouTube where, blessedly, you can skip the boring bits – or perhaps it is more accurate to say, pause for the snippets of useful information.)

The Democratic Party held its convention first, last week. Amidst the attacks on Donald Trump, the Covid-19 pandemic emerged as a major theme of the party’s presidential campaign. All the Democrats’ events were fully virtual, mostly one person speaking into a camera in an empty room, showing that participants were masked and following social distancing protocols. A response to the virus was the first policy issue that nominee Joe Biden mentioned in his speech. He has called for a nationwide mask mandate and in a recent interview promised that he would shut down the economy to prevent the virus’s spread, if this was recommended by experts.

The ongoing Republican Party convention is a stark contrast. Each day has been held in a different location, some of which were outdoors, but at all there has been some kind of audience in attendance. They have been seated somewhat apart but only very few have been wearing masks. Speakers are accompanied to their podiums by their spouses, in some cases. In short, the optics of the Republican convention are a lot closer to those of a normal convention, if still very far removed.

Covid-19 plays a much smaller role in the GOP’s policy pitch for the 2020 presidential election. Like the Labour party in New Zealand, the Trump-Pence ticket is running on their response to the virus so far – arguing, for example, that although there was severe shortage of ventilators in early April, government procurement programs quickly alleviated this problem.

Unlike the Ardern government, Trump does not want to focus on what he will do to combat the virus in the future. His message is: The economy was doing great before March of this year, let me “make it great again”. For this administration, the Covid-19 pandemic is a thing of the past.

It is unclear whether the Democratic or Republican strategy is better in this pandemic environment. In some parts of the country – such as New York, New Jersey and Arizona – Covid-19 diagnoses and deaths are only a tiny fraction of what they were a few months ago. But in others, including key battleground states such as Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, infection rates remain stubbornly high.

If the spread and lethality of Covid-19 continue to decline between now and November, Joe Biden could appear to be fighting yesterday’s battle as voters’ focus moves from combating the virus to rebuilding the economy. But if the virus is resurgent, Trump’s approval and chances for reelection could plunge to the depths seen at the height of the pandemic earlier this year.

The US presidential election campaign remains unpredictable and promises a much broader and more contentious debate about the necessary and appropriate response to Covid-19 than Kiwis will see before their own election in October.


Henry Thomson is originally from Amberley, North Canterbury and is now an Assistant Professor of Political Economy at Arizona State University. His research focuses on the political economy of authoritarian rule and transitions to democracy. You can read more about his research here and follow him on Twitter @HenryRThomson. His earlier letters are here.

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Will be interesting to see whether Pelosi allows Biden out for any leaders debates.
Perhaps Harris will do a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of speeches and availability to the press etc.
The street protests and their movement towards violence and harassment of the public is going to favour Trump.

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Biden better not take the stage with Trump.... well first he's gotta find the right stage... that will be a challenge.

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Lol. Could be embarrassing.
I mean, how are they going to keep him away from any live appearances?

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At least Biden actually cares about the American people. Trump is still incompetent that was clearly evident during his tedious RNC speech which he fumbled through very slowly. What was most glaring is that he does not care about his voters or even his political party. Who were packed in there mostly without face masks to give him the gratification he sought on the White House grounds which looked like a fortress.

MSNBC Despite Pandemic, Trump Holds Crowded NH Rally After Crowded RNC Speech | The 11th Hour | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ks1RALDAQM&feature=emb_rel_pause

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No one is disputing Biden has a more conventional communication style - the issue is his competence and health.
And the paid anarchists ‘protesting’ on his behalf are simply playing into Trumps hands.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-08-28/ussenator-rand-paul-…

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I very much doubt anyone paid protesters and if they did then it would have been Trump. Biden still has far more competence then Trump, again clearly evident during Trump's speech which was very slow and packed with lies.

CNN Fact Check: Daniel Dale: President Trump is a serial liar. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/08/28/daniel-dale-fact-che…

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I doubt whether anyone takes anything CNN produces seriously anymore.
CNN is basically a nonstop anti-Trump tirade - which once again improves Trumps support.
NZ will benefit better economically from a Republican presidency.

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LOL where have you been MB, There's only one kind of pro Trump news outlet and that's Fox news pretty much all the other US news networks are against Trump and are heavily critical of him.

And how on earth will NZ be better off economically if Trump remains in power?? One of the first things Trump did when he got in to power was to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Have you forgotten how John Key did a runner soon after Trump got in to power.
BBC Trump executive order pulls out of TPP trade deal. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38721056

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Yes and even the Fox news presenters get fed up of Trumps ramblings, though those occasions have been hilarious. Clip: Trump Ranting to "Fox & Friends" | The Daily Show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtE0acRimSw

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Biden is on record as being anti free trade, moreso than Trump. MB is correct.
Those who hope that an electoral defeat for Trump in November will signal an enthusiastic return to the US’ long-standing commitment to open trade and ever-deepening economic integration are likely to be disappointed. The Rubicon has been crossed. Biden himself has been crystal clear on this point: “There's no going back to business as usual on trade with me."
https://www.hinrichfoundation.com/research/article/us-china/us-trade-po…

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So you and MB still haven't explained how US 'anti free trade' attitude with other countries is supposed to help NZ? Keep in mind that it was Trump who pulled out of TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) trade deal in Jan 2017.

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Wow.. how myopic can you possibly be?? That is exactly not what we're saying. US' attitude to free multilateral trade agreements (i.e Trump doesn't like them much) is currently negatively affecting our exports to them and will continue under a Biden presidency, in fact it may well harden.

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LOL so can't you see that you're the myopic one. All Trump has done is to build a scared inward looking nation. And if you haven't noticed the US isn't doing all that well at the moment with massive unemployment and an out of control virus etc.. All Trump want's to do is to support his stock market buddies.

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The discussion was about whether Biden would be a worse result for NZs trade efforts. He is on record as being potentially more protectionist than Trump, so overall a potentially worse result for NZ. Getting into Trumps other failings wasn't what we were talking about.
Overall a Republican govt in the US would be better from NZs point of view as they are more trade friendly than a Democrat one

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Total BS! Where's your evidence that Biden is to quote you: "He is on record as being potentially more protectionist than Trump". You're just making stuff up and if you're quoting stuff from Trump then we know it's an obvious lie.

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The link got deleted by the Ed as part of my reply.. so do some research of your own. I'm pretty much done with trying to educate those who can't be educated

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LOL Oh you're hilarious! :) So you had your dodgy lies pro Trump propaganda link deleted by the good people who take responsibility for this social media site. And you're telling me that I should go and look for the Trump propaganda. How stupid to you think we are! Remember we're not Americans and have a much better global perspective. :)

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You wrote "Remember we are not American". Yes that's right so why your obsession with Trump? Ask yourself, what information do we get on the USA politics and from where? The media is extremely biased when it comes to politics, policing, religion, race, personal responsibility etc.
Where I live in south east asia, there has been slave camps with over 300 murdered and no media coverage from the west. Ex prime minster stole billions, had his mistress blown up with grenades. I've witnessed mobs beat people and the police look the other way due to race or religion. Hardly ever media coverage as it's not about President Trump. So yup we are not American but it looks like you think alot about President Trump and all the bad trait's told to you by the USA mainstream media. I personally believe there is such a thing as Trump derangement syndrome and it show's in the interest.co.nz articles / comments.

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This whole thread s/he is participating is Kiwis being a bit unhealthily obsessed with Trump. Whoever thought we'd see Kiwis so eagerly and passionately defending a dull reality TV star and multiple times failed businessman / rape accusee.

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Hard to see why what has never been a concern for Trump supporters should be a concern for Biden voters. Gone are the days when American politics concerned itself with trifles such as competence and health.

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Yes Trump will need help..2 hands to hold the cup and pre audited for that sniff.

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Lol, hopefully Musk gets that brain chip going so you can have Trump tweets railed straight into your cortex. Have some self respect, for God's sake.

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Seems to be that when things get down and dirty, push comes to shove, the Republicans have more shove. Perhaps in that regard the relative party symbols of elephant vs goat is apt. For instance in the aftermath of scandal of rigged voting in 1876 eventual Republican president Rutherford was widely lampooned as Rutherfraud. Likewise in 2000 a similar scenario in Florida Democrat Gore looked like just making it until forthcoming Secretary of State Baker arrived on the scene, thence 8 years of Bush junior. And if you think about it that Bush, with a questionable service record, was successfully able to attack and discredit two decorated war heroes in McCain of his own party, and Kerry for his second term. And so you get to Trump, with more dirty flak about him than probably all previous nominees combined, and so there he is.

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Yes it's incredible how much dirt gravitates around Trump. He can't even use his major election promise of a Boarder Wall because his cronies (Steve Bannon) defrauded hundreds of thousands of donors who thought they were contributing money to build a wall on the US-Mexico border to block illegal immigration. Then there's all of Trumps other campaign managers who have also been convicted over the course of his presidency.

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Seems the Green New Deal lite may also have taken a back seat. Surprised the Republicans haven't hammered that. Maybe the other states don't know what's happening in California.

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I think like the last election apathy will be a huge decider of the US election.
If the Democrats can get a large portion of people voting, then they will win. If the pols show Biden too far ahead, then many Democrats may not get around to voting or registering As they assume it’s a done deal. Let’s hope the Democrats base have learnt their lesson this time from the dangers of apathy.

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Not to mention the Dems actually won the popular (majority) vote last time by 3 million odd votes. Just a convoluted system in the USA unfortunately. Hopefully some of the uneducated idiots that voted for trump last time will see that he is in fact the same person they voted in i.e a narcissistic, uneducated habitual liar that has without a doubt the most disgusting and inept character traits of any president in the history of the USA. Biden is no prize but at this point for the sake of America and the world it simply has to be anyone except trump.
The economy was doing fine when trump was voted in and only rose to its pre covid level due to uneducated corporate tax cuts that caused approximately another 4 trillion dollars (yes, trillion) to be added in debt (pre covid). Anyone could have done that. The trick is to get the economy growing while keeping debt manageable. The problem is, trump has NEVER used his own money in his life, he just racks up debt, declares bankruptcy and walks..and that is where the USA is headed under him. He is an absolute worthless, uneducated pile of crap who I would not let over the threshold of my door.

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Hopefully Trump is gone burger in November, the world will be a better place.

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But Biden will embolden China even more. He will not check them. Their power will grow as will their aggression. NZ will not be safer with Biden in power.

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Don't you see it? The United States has been in decline because of its rotten core. Trump is part of it.

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Show me a senator of either colour (blue or red) who isn't part of the problem. That's what happens when you let money buy democracy and influence

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Certainly why we should be vigilant against the same with ALL parties in NZ: National and JLR, Dalziel, Labour, NZ First, Auckland Council. There is nothing good that comes from enabling the buying of power.

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Their power won't grow, or at least not much. Their glory days of growth are over and unless they start behaving themselves better their economy will not prosper.

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Fritz, I think you'll find China could easily be self sustaining, especially if they cosied up to Russia. Whilst large multinationals continue to fall over themselves to establish a presence in China due to the size of it's internal market they will continue to prosper

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Valid points. Note I didn't say they will fall away. It's just I don't think their power will grow much, if at all. Internally, much of their population is still poor, and rapidly ageing.

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" It's just I don't think their power will grow much, if at all." Remember China has refined the art of "chequebook diplomacy", something they have been quietly but steadily rolling out as part of their BRI. You may be surprised to learn that China has a 100 year lease on the port of Darwin. China, in particular, and some other countries are capable of taking a far longer view of their influence in world (or local) affairs than many may give them credit for.

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You obviously seem much more bullish on China's prospects than I, so we will have to agree to disagree.

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I'm not sure if "bullish" is quite the right sentiment Fritz. I would say more "wary" and perhaps less dismissive.

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Whomever is president (or PM for that matter in NZ) - it is no so much the leader but the team that they bring with them.

If the team as a whole isn't competent and credible - you're pushing water up hill with a rake .

I think the whole world is currently pushing water uphill with a rake - and has been doing so for sometime (long prior to COVID 19).

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Good points.
I wasn't a fan overall of the last Natiinal govt but overall I would argue they had quite a competent cabinet.
By contrast, while I favour the philosophy of the current government they can't deliver on it, largely through incompetence.

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One of my favourite memes doing the rounds is:

FYI. The Trump ad that shows fires and looting with the tag line, "You won't be safe in Biden's America" shows actual footage from Trump's America.

I really don't hold out any hope for the US no matter who wins this election. You can't have citizens walking around legally with AK47s strapped over their shoulder. Their 2nd Amendment has stuffed the place. I often think they might fight another civil war based on appeal/retain the 2nd Amendment.

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Yeah that 2nd Amendment thing should have been tossed years (actually decades) ago. Wait for the rednecks and NRA members to go ballistic when Trump loses.

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The retention of the 2nd amendment is just nuts.
It was put in place so that citizens could protect them selves from a bad government.
Just what use is an AK47 against a cruise missile or an Abrams tank?

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It's not about the weapons actual effectiveness (most MSSAs are completely ineffective in untrained hands) but more about the bolstering of egocentric and insecure personalities. Just look at some of the news footage lately showing "wannabe's" prancing around all cammo'ed up with an AR around their neck, and a pistol on the hip like they're some sort of SFs guy.. how pathetic.

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And how deadly.

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Tulsa rally , only 6000 turned out . Trumps base won't bother voting in numbers, so he will lose.
American elections are all about who turns out to vote, thats why trump is so anti postal voting.
Neither Trump , Biden or Pence, have the pulling power to get people to vote , But Kamala Harris might. i think we will see more of her than Biden .
Some say Trump's only hope was to ditch Pence , and pick a female vice president running mate, i think they may have been right .
The other wild card is how many republican senators and congressmen will ditch trump to save to try and their own hides. If he drops any further , i am sure the will. but then I thought Trump with never make it to been their nominee either.
covid 19 deaths are set to pass 200 000 before the election , infections could reach 10 million, again the republicans may break with Trump at that point.

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Yeah Trump is toast and no this is not 2016 all over again because things couldn't have changed more in the USA in the last few years since he has been in. Its boardline civil war over there now and it's going to get worse before there is any chance it improves.

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I believe it's high time the world in general moves to another "default trading currency", away from the USD and into the EUR, it certainly seems more stable. Maybe just slowly pivot away from American influence. Imo they have outlived their usefulness as a stabilising influence and are now part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution. Trump's tenure has shown how disruptive they can be, but I'm not sure Biden will be much better

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The problem is which one. China's? Too dishonest. The EURO? Too shaky a future. The NZ Peso? Sure, why not? And would physical war follow a currency war, to get there?

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Read a quote : Trump has not grown as a President, instead he has bent the Presidency to his will.

True in many senses. Biden may not become a great President, but he would restore some of the lost prestige of that Office, for sure. There won't be any inflatable nappy wearing huge dolls of an American President flying in Foreign Skies. So America better do the right thing to restore some value to its highest office.

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