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Thursday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: How do banks grow profits when lending growth stops?; 12 signs of Hyperinflation; Portugal is broke; An automatic heat ray oven; Dilberts

Thursday's Top 10 with NZ Mint: How do banks grow profits when lending growth stops?; 12 signs of Hyperinflation; Portugal is broke; An automatic heat ray oven; Dilberts

Here's my Top 10 links from around the Internet at 10 to 8 pm in association with NZ Mint.

I welcome your additions in the comments below or via email to bernard.hickey@interest.co.nz.

I'll pop the extras into the comment stream. See all previous Top 10s here.

My apologies that there was no Top 10 yesterday and that this one is late. A bit hectic. Will have to change something. I've included some cartoons about Obama and Libya. The public in America really don't want another war. The mood there is feral, at best.

1. The game is over - Houses and Holes over at Macrobusiness has written an excellent piece calling Australia's debt fueled property boom the ponzi scheme it really is.

Houses picks up on this vague feeling of unease that is settling over the banks as they realise they can't rely on 5-10% lending growth forever. If fact there is virtually no lending growth to rely on.

It's no different here.

The banks are scrambling to understand what the new world of zero or no credit growth means. How can they increase profits when lending isn't growing?

How are they going to get the profit growth and high return on equity that shareholders have gotten used to?

Will they actually have to win real market share off each other?

Will they find profit growth from higher fees and margins? HT Stephen via email.

Houses says it best here:

In my view, savings are climbing because punters know, or at least sense, that the above system has passed its use-by date. Punters are not as stupid as the government thinks and despite all of the mollifying balderdash poured forth by “the system” since the GFC, they feel in their bones that something has changed.

For starters, the vast majority know that Australian housing is a debt-fuelled rocket in a world that is suddenly calling debt to account, and that’s an uncomfortable position to inhabit.

Moreover, we have a population bubble that is massively over-leveraged and over-exposed to said discomfort as they approach retirement.

Finally, for anyone that missed the Waterloo moment of Australia’s old system, the RBA has made it very clear that it will not let debt grow as it used to. Canberra knows the old system has passed, even if it keeps shreds alive in the endless China boom thesis.

So the system has lost its lynch pin. And the fallout is amazing to watch as Australia’s cartels writhe, trying to find ways of competing that doesn’t overly-expose their market dominance. It’s a dance of mock competition and high moral ground.

2. The 12 signs of hyper-inflation - America's National Inflation Association has published its 12 warning signs of hyperinflation here. They seem pretty convinced. I'm not so sure.

America may well export it, but with demand so weak it's hard to imagine prices catching fire.

But there's the thinking.

the majority of the warning signs that hyperinflation is imminent are already here today, but most Americans are failing to properly recognize them. NIA believes that there is a serious risk of hyperinflation breaking out as soon as the second half of this calendar year and that hyperinflation is almost guaranteed to occur by the end of this decade.

In our estimation, the most likely time frame for a full-fledged outbreak of hyperinflation is between the years 2013 and 2015. Americans who wait until 2013 to prepare, will most likely see the majority of their purchasing power wiped out. It is essential that all Americans begin preparing for hyperinflation immediately.

3. Headwinds for Australia - Economist Dave Hale is closely watched in Australia. Now columnist Terry McCrann at Rupert Murdoch's Herald Sun in Melbourne has written about Hale's warning that the lucky country faces a Chinese slowdown. HT Paul via email

US ECONOMIST David Hale has delivered a huge warning to Australia overall and to BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto in particular. It is all about China.

That rise and rise in our dollar is built on the China-driven commodity boom. Hale's big warning was that China's spectacular growth might -- indeed, would -- slow. If it ended up slowing dramatically -- not Hale's prediction -- our dollar would clearly plunge.

According to Hale, China's growth would slow first for cyclical reasons. China was experiencing serious inflation pressures from soaring food and energy prices. And then subsequently as the country grew richer and changed structurally. With wages pressures and a shortage of skilled labour, and a likely sustained rise in interest rates.

This came together in a rebalancing of the Chinese economy, as the consumption share increased and the capital spending share declined. That fed into his more specific warning that China was embarked on breaking the Australian-Brazilian iron ore "cartel".

4. China's ghost cities and malls - Adrian Brown from SBS' Dateline programme in Australia has produced an excellent documentary about a ghost city in China. The pictures are stunning. Vast, empty shopping centres. Shopkeepers who don't sell anything for days at a time.  64 million empty apartments. These are China's pyramids.

This is today's must watch. HT Blair via Twitter.

TIAN YU GAO (Translation):  Yesterday – I sold one toy.  Once it took four or five days

His shop is a rare sight in the Great Mall. The majority of this vast shopping centre remains as empty as it did when it opened six years ago. Back then, developers boasted that it would become the world's biggest shopping mall, with plans for 1500 shops that would attract 70,000 shoppers a day - the mall was heralded by the New York Times as proof of China's astonishing new consumer culture. But today, the not so great Mall of China, as it is known, is a glaring indication that this consumer culture has been grossly overestimated.

A gondola ride through the mall lasts 20 minutes and takes you past an unsettling and almost unending vista of emptiness. For the few workers kept on to maintain this vast and now eerie complex, it is boring and lonely work and already, there are signs of creeping neglect. Even filming an empty shopping mall is a sensitive issue in China - police arrived and ordered us out but the mall is so vast, it was easy to slip back in unnoticed and just like in the city of Zhengzhou, building goes on.

Despite repeated requests, the mall's management refuse to talk to Dateline, but Tian Yu Gao wonders if the mall may become another victim of the government's obsession with big infrastructure projects.

Gillem Tulloch is a Hong Kong-based analyst who has been investigating China's residential and commercial real estate market. He maintains that there's massive oversupply and over valuation of properties right across China.

GILLEM TULLOCH:  It's essentially the modern equivalent of building pyramids. It doesn't really add to the betterment of lives, but it adds to the growth of GDP.

And maintaining economic growth is the government's number one priority.

GILLEM TULLOCH:  It's basically happening because China is a command economy and the Chinese Government can dictate where the resources are spent.

REPORTER:  And so, if the order goes out to build, local governments build?

GILLEM TULLOCH:  That's right. If the central government a GDP target, they have to meet the target and the easiest way to do it is just to build.

REPORTER:  Isn't all this construction a good thing? It's creating jobs and getting the economy moving? That's a good thing?

GILLEM TULLOCH:  People forget that it is not the quantity of GDP that matters but the quality and essentially, they're building things for where there's no demand and so they're creating a large problem for the future.

5. Beef prices jump - Bloomberg reports Cattle futures prices in Chicago hit record highs overnight on expectations that fears about food and land being contaminated in Japan would increase Japanese imports of beef.

Japan was the largest importer of U.S. pork and the third- largest buyer of U.S. beef last year, government data show. In Japan’s northeast, hazardous radiation levels are delaying repair work at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi power plant, site of the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.

Surging prices of corn, the main ingredient in livestock feed, have boosted costs for meat producers. In Texas, the leading U.S. cattle producer, the worst drought in 44 years is forcing ranchers to reduce herds.

“With the high price of beef, it’s getting real hard to move in the States, but export demand is really strong,” said Troy Vetterkind, the owner of Vetterkind Cattle Brokerage in Chicago. Japan has “been having to buy more beef, pork and chicken because of the problems they’ve got, so that’s been a pretty major factor,” he said.

6. Portugal is bascially broke - The Telegraph reports that Portugal is unable to pay interest payments due in June.  Brace yourselves.

The debt-laden nation faces around €9bn (£7.9bn) in bond redemptions by June, but currently has no more than €5bn in cash, analysts at Barclays Capital estimated.

"Portugal needs to find financing in the coming weeks in some way," they said, suggesting credit lines or some sort of bridge loan. "In our opinion, Portugal is likely to find financing, but it is not in a comfortable position."

Portugal denied that it could not afford to pay off its debt.

"The writing is on the wall for Portugal," said Kathleen Brooks, a research director at trading platform Forex.com. "A bailout is just a matter of time in this environment."  

7. Working for Families a two headed beast - Brian Easton from Victoria University has written a fascinating historical analysis of how New Zealand's social welfare system has developed over the years and how it has now become so pragmatic as to be a complete mess. The historical context he puts it all in is enlightening.

The scheme is incredibly clumsy. It is said that a committee designed a camel – a calumny on the ship of the desert; the committee that designed the Working for Families package designed a pushmi-pullyu.

To give an example of its two headedness, the scheme requires a decision as to whether two people are in a marriage-type relationship. In order to minimise the cost of the scheme the Department of Inland Revenue will declare a couple in particular circumstances as not married. Meanwhile in order to minimise benefit entitlements Work and Income New Zealand may declare the same couple as married. So one’s marital status may depend on which department of state is reviewing you. Coming to think of it, the pushmi-pullyu is much better designed.

8. An accident waiting to happen - FT reports via CNN that China's state run banks lent US$98 billion to state governments and their property development arms during the lending boom of late 2008 and all through 2009. The Chinese think they can control the problem and that all will be fine... See the video above for a reality check.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Jiang Jianqing, chairman of Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, the world's biggest bank by market capitalisation, acknowledged that unbridled lending to development companies controlled by local governments did carry some risk for the economy.

The development companies now account for 10 per cent of ICBC's loan book. In the aftermath of the 2008 global financial crisis, Chinese banks roughly doubled their lending activity.

"It is important that people pay attention to this problem and we should be alert to the risks," Mr Jiang said. "[But] I don't believe this problem poses a systemic risk to the Chinese banking system. It is my belief that within three years we will have solved this problem smoothly. Within three years we want lending to fully return to normal [pre-crisis levels]."

9. The end of Empire -  David Korten—author of When Corporations Rule the World and Agenda for a New Economy, The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community, writes here at CSRWire Talkback about Wall St and the end of empire. I tend to agree with him. HT Vault.com and Umair Haque.

Great civilizations were built and then swept away in successive waves of violence and destruction. War, trade and debt served as weapons of the few to expropriate the means of livelihood of the many and reduce them to slavery or serfdom. Whole empires were subjected to the delusional hubris and debaucheries of psychopathic rulers.

As powerful as Wall Street appears to be, it’s abuse of power has so eroded the economic, social and environmental foundations of its own existence that its fate is sealed. We the People have a choice. We can allow Wall Street to maintain its grip until it brings down the whole of human civilization in irrevocable social and environmental collapse. Or we can take control of our future and replace the Wall Street economy with the values and institutions of a New Economy comprised of locally owned businesses devoted to serving their communities by investing in the use of local resources to produce real goods and services responsive to local needs.

Either way, Wall Street’s days are numbered. Ours need not be.

10. Totally prescient prediction about The Astounding World of the Future. HT Mashable.

I like the automatic heat ray oven the best.

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21 Comments

If banks were forced to do number portability like the telcos, banking would look very different

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FYI RaboDirect have just cut their term deposit rates

6 months 4.80%  from 5.35%  9 months 4.85%  from 5.45 % 1 year 4.90%  from 5.55% 

 

Details and all term deposit rates up to 1 year here

http://www.interest.co.nz/saving/term-deposits-1-to-9-months

cheers

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Wow, those are seriously big drops! What do Rabo know or think about the next year or so? Some possibilities are:

RBNZ lowering OCR heaps to counter

1. rampaging Kiwi?

2. deepening recession?

3. both?

China slowdown? If it occurs they will stop buying Oz minerals but maybe not Kiwi foods.

 

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Rabo didn't move their depsoit rates at time of last adjustment at OCR time and guaranteed rates to 31/03.

They have now just moved back closer in line with rest of market.

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Wow, the links about China are fascinating...we are watching the largest misallocation of capital the world has seen...how and when will it blow up?

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Trouble is brewing in Ireland

Anglo Irish Bank reported a record €17.7bn (£15.5bn) loss on Thursday ahead of stress tests which will uncover the full extent of the black hole in the Irish banking system

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8417869/Anglo-Irish-Bank-posts-17.7bn-loss-ahead-of-stress-tests.html
 

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Bank Account Number Portability. (by rhys.lewis 31 Mar 11, 6:46pm)

A simple idea with immense ramifications for the banks. Think it through. It has the potential to transfer the power of the banks to the proletariat. Imagine a "universal account number" allocated by a central independent banking organisation which holds all banking details and securitised collateral documentation, a once only event, and using that number a bank account can be moved, via internet banking,  from one bank to any other bank or Building Society without any adminstrative overhead. Then a "collective" organisation recommends at a specified time for everyone to transfer their funds at 5:00 pm on a given day, from their individual banks over to Govt.Guaranteed.Building.Society. That would/could frighten the horses. Then a week later another recommendation is issued to transfer to Bank A. A week later a transfer to Bank B. And so on. Instead of the power of the few, the power of the many. It would encourage the banks to compete aggressively and offer "interest rate specials". Won't happen though.

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"It would encourage the banks to compete aggressively and offer "interest rate specials". Won't happen though."

 

I am sure it happens to a certain extent here.  I locked into the rabo rates this week thanks to this site.  I am sure a lot of people use the tables here to compare rates and make decisions where to move funds.

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Term deposit rates are terrible now.

You get a far better yield from housing...and the potential of capital gains.

With the possibility of hyper-inflation around the corner, one would be mad to be in term deposits, glad to be in housing.

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Term deposits are the closet thing to a risk free rate of return....so these are the base investment...

Housing may well give you a better yield but it is at a risk, if it the magic ratio was 3:1 the risk would be small and the impact (risk of a drop) small, at 6:1 its the other way...Capital gains? what capital gains?  houses are down 5%? so unless that rent covers the loss of capital you could be doing worse than a deposit account and at risk...

Hyper-inflation? Im pretty sure not....about as sure as I can be....even if we have some inflation houses dont have to increase in value.

Im sure of deflation in which case a deposit account starts to look safe and the capital buys more....a way better deal in such a scenario.

But I have come to the conclusion that experience is the best way of learning....one of us will be right, but hopefully both of us will learn.

regards

 

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Is Bernard attempting to hype up a ho-hum story by excessive usage of the term "hyper-inflation " .

........ Does anyone have an accepted definiton of this term , to differentiate it from common everyday ordinary " inflation " ....... ?

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Ahh so you show your true colours now, after proclaiming how your were really an investor not a speculator.

But you let those magic words 'capital gains' give you away. 

It is quite clear that those chasing captial gains in housing are leeches. Sewer dwellers that contribute nothing to society, and in fact detract from it.

 

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Hi scarfie.

My concern is that inflation may well be on the horizon, I agree with those who are concerned about it.

So I see an advantage of housing is that it protects me from that possibility of inflation. My capital will increase along with the inflation.

But of course to protect me I have to stay invested in housing. Hence I have to be an investor, not a speculator.

To be a speculator would mean I lose the inflation protection I believe housing investment gives me ie I would have sold the house!

My comments backed up that I am an investor, not a speculator. But I am also concerned that if my money was only in a bank account inflation would chew it up.

NB. I don't live in a sewer and my tenants seem to like the houses thay live in as they often stay quite a long time. I think you are a bit tough on sewer dwellers as I think they do contribute to society by keeping out of sight and making the homeless issue look not quite so bad.

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You assume the future will be like the past....personally I dont know that thats the case...im pretty sure not. This is because I think we are looking at push inflation in some things and not pull inflation in everything.

There are three possibilities, 1) Inflation, 1b) Hyper-inflation,  2) Stagnation (where some things inflate and some thing deflate), 3) deflation....3b) depression.

If you look at 1) yes property is probably as good and better than most things....1b) hyper-inflation examples were house values protected? I dont know (I need to research) but I wouldnt be surprised if the answer is no....for the rest, no house values are not protected...and in fact are decimated in the last two.

Risk and impact.

regards

 

 

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We already have 'hyperinflation'? If by definition it is the arbitrary creation of 'bits of paper'. After all, there must be US$13 trillion ( or is that US$130 trillion...) worth of live derivatives floating about the planet at this very moment - 3 or 4 times the annual GDP of the entire planet. Does it matter how many time more than, 1 time GDP, that we create?

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(PS:) After a quick check about, it looks like it's actually in the quadrillions of dollars; so maybe >US$1,300 trillion...But who really knows...

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Nope...

regards

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The 90 day " stand-down " workplace legislation comes into full force today ..... And I caught the EPMU's advert on RadioLive this morning , having a crack at it ........ shit that was so funny , I thought that it must be April 1'st or something , those EPMU guys are in Lady Gaga land .

......... Anyone ever been sacked for breathing too loudly ? ....... No ???

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So come the Day of the Big Bang in Fukashima, will those displaced millions of Japanese people be flocking to New Zealand (the hope of many a property owner here) to inhabit the remains of our leaky buildings? Or will they head for the pristisine new cities that China has lying in slumber,  just waiting to be filled?

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#1  "...In my view, savings are climbing because punters know, or at least sense, that the above system has passed its use-by date..."  Lincoln said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." This awareness is increasing exponentially as personal wealth is eroded by society's biggest parasite: bureaucracy. Funny, some people still think that Bill English is holding the reigns.

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Those ghost cities in China are simply bizarre. Goes to show the extent of the false economy the government is running over there.

Australia really needs to watch things closely. Would be a disaster for them if China decides to pull back on it's "infrastructure" projects.  

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