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Have your say: Should National let Act leader Rodney Hide win Epsom, or can they afford to lose the Act Party?

Have your say: Should National let Act leader Rodney Hide win Epsom, or can they afford to lose the Act Party?

Act Party leader Rodney Hide, who was interviewed last month by Bernard Hickey (above) was given a 50% chance of retaining Auckland's Epsom seat for Act yesterday.

This was before Prime Minister John Key indicated National may let the Local Government Minister keep his Epsom seat by focusing in that seat on keeping the party vote for National, rather than winning the electorate.

The contract on iPredict for Hide to retain Epsom had jumped up to 66 cents this morning after Key's comments that National would focus on its party vote in Epsom.

Here's what iPredict said yesterday in its weekly snapshot, taken before the PM's comments yesterday:

Epsom has joined Ikaroa-Rawhiti, New Plymouth, Te Tai Tonga and West Coast-Tasman as one of the five most marginal electorates in the country.  There is now just a 50% probability Mr Hide will retain Epsom for his party, down from 67% last week.  The probability it will be won by a National candidate (other than Mr Hide if he stood for National) is now 48%, up from 31% last week.

The problem for National is if they were to stand a credible candidate against Hide and win the electorate seat, Act would not be returned to Parliament. Although current polls suggest National could govern alone, there is a lot of water left to go under the bridge before the November 26 election.

Act currently has five MPs in Parliament supporting the government on confidence and supply. If National were to win Epsom, that could effectively mean five fewer seats for forming a government, with its only possible coalition partners being the Maori Party and UnitedFuture.

Your view?

So should National let Act back into Parliament by not standing a candidate against Hide in Epsom?

Would Hide even lose Epsom if he was up against a credible candidate? (Remember there has been polling done on whether Epsom voters would vote for former National leader Don Brash or former MP and Auckland Mayor John Banks - and the likelihood of Brash leading a new party into the next election rose slightly this week, although it is still very unlikely at 8%.)

Here's this week's snapshot from iPredict, released yesterday. CPI inflation came through at 4.5% annually for the March quarter, while Prime Minister John Key signalled yesterday National would let Act leader Rodney Hide

Key Points:
•       National forecast to govern alone – even if Act and UnitedFuture leave Parliament and NZ First reaches 5%
•       Epsom now one of top five marginals, along with Ikaroa-Rawhiti, New Plymouth, Te Tai Tonga and West Coast-Tasman
•       Hide’s hold on leadership weakens while Goff’s strengthens
•       Economic growth expectations remain low
•       Inflation, unemployment and interest rate expectations unchanged

Commentary:

This week’s snapshot from New Zealand’s online prediction market, iPredict, indicates John Key’s National Party would be able to govern alone, despite market expectations that its support will fall significantly, from that suggested by recent opinion polls, before the General Election on 26 November.

National’s ability to govern alone holds true even if it is assumed that both the Act and UnitedFuture parties were to leave Parliament and New Zealand First were to return with 5% of the party vote.  Mr Key’s strongest governing position would be under a scenario where both Act and UnitedFuture left Parliament – the former being increasingly likely – while New Zealand First did not reach 5%.  Under this scenario, the National Party would have 65 MPs in a Parliament of 121.

Economic Context

Recession fears have remained constant over the last week, with the probability the economy will be in a recession in the June, September and December 2011 quarters remaining broadly steady at 22%, 15% and 12% respectively.  Expectations for negative growth in the March 2011 quarter also remain steady with just a 26% probability growth will be above 0% for that quarter.

Growth forecasts are also unchanged and remain low.  Growth for each of the next five quarters to be reported is expected to be -0.2% for the March 2011 quarter 0.2% for the June 2011 quarter; 0.6% for the September 2011 quarter; 0.7% for the December 2011 quarter; and 0.5% for the March 2012 quarter.

Unemployment forecasts also remain steady.  Unemployment is expected to be 6.8% in the March 2011 quarter; 6.7% in the June 2011 quarter; 6.3% in the September 2011 quarter; 6.4% in the December 2011 quarter; and 6.5% in the March 2012 quarter.

Inflation expectations are also relatively unchanged.  Annual inflation is expected to be 4.8% in the March 2011 quarter (steady); 5.2% for the June 2011 quarter (down from 5.3% last week); 5.0% for the September 2011 quarter (steady); 3.4% for the December 2011 quarter (up from 3.1% last week); and 3.1% for the March 2012 quarter (steady).

Big petrol price rises continue to be forecast, although the strength of expectations has continued to ease back slightly.  The probability that unleaded petrol prices will exceed $2.20 per litre in 2011 is 89%, down from 90% last week; the probability it will exceed $2.30 per litre is 52%, down from 54% last week and 60% the week before; and the probability it will exceed $2.40 per litre is now down to 30%, from 34% last week, 35% two weeks ago; 40% three weeks ago and 45% four weeks ago.  The probability it will go above $2.50 per litre remains 24%.

The market continues to expect that Reserve Bank Governor Alan Bollard will leave the OCR at 2.50% for most of the year before raising it to 2.75% on 8 December.  There remains a 98% probability he will leave it unchanged on 28 April (steady compared with last week); a 90% probability he will leave it unchanged on 9 June (up from 87%); an 86% probability he will leave it unchanged on 28 July (down from 87%); an 88% probability he will leave it unchanged on 15 September (steady); a 70% probability he will leave it unchanged on 27 October (up from 69%) and a 50% probability he will increase it to 2.75% on 8 December (steady).

Expected yields for 90-day bank bills are largely unchanged from last week.  The expected 90-day rate on 1 June 2011 is 2.55% (down from 2.57% last week), the expected 90-day rate on 1 September 2011 is 2.76% (steady) and on 1 December 2011 is 2.97% (up from 2.93% last week).

Average floating-rate mortgages continue to be expected to stay low.  The probability they will reach 6.50% in 2011, from the 5.90% reported by the Reserve Bank for March 2011, is now 18%, up from 17% last week and 16% the week before.

Election Date, Parties & Personnel

The market continues to indicate a 97% probability that the election will be held on Saturday 26 November.  All current leaders of parliamentary parties have at least a 76% probability of remaining in their positions until then.  The most vulnerable is now Act Leader Rodney Hide, who has a 24% probability of being replaced before the election, up from 7% last week.  The probability that Labour Leader Phil Goff will be replaced before the election has now fallen back to just 12%, from 17% last week, 22% two weeks ago and 42% three weeks ago.

The probability of a new party being registered prior to the election involving at least two of Independent MP Hone Harawira, Unite National Secretary Matt McCarten and former Green MP Sue Bradford has slipped back to 27%, from 30% last week and 34% the week before.  The probability that a new party will be registered involving former National Party Leader Don Brash is 8%, up from 7% last week.

Key Electorate Contests

Epsom has joined Ikaroa-Rawhiti, New Plymouth, Te Tai Tonga and West Coast-Tasman as one of the five most marginal electorates in the country.  There is now just a 50% probability Mr Hide will retain Epsom for his party, down from 67% last week.  The probability it will be won by a National candidate (other than Mr Hide if he stood for National) is now 48%, up from 31% last week.  UnitedFuture Leader Peter Dunne continues to have a 55% probability of being re-elected in Ohariu, still well ahead of a National candidate (26% probability, down from 27% last week and 28% the week before) or a Labour candidate (20% probability, up from 19% last week and 17% the week before).  The probability Winston Peters will be returned to Parliament has risen to 31%, from 30% last week.  The probabilities he will stand in Epsom or Helensville remain steady at 17% and 11% respectively.

In the Maori electorates, Labour’s hold on Hauraki-Waikato has strengthened from 70% probability over the last month to 72% in this week’s snapshot.  The probability Labour will win Te Tai Tonga from the Maori Party has also strengthened (from 50% over the last month to 52% this week), as has the probability the Maori Party will pick up Ikaroa-Rawhiti (from 52% the last two weeks to 53% this week).  Mr Harawira’s hold on Te Tai Tokerau has continued the recent trend of weakening slightly, with him now having a 74% probability of retaining the seat, down from 75% last week and 78% the previous two weeks.  There have been no changes in Tamaki-Makaurau, Te Tai Hauauru or Waiariki, all of which are expected to be won by the Maori Party, with 74%, 77% and 82% probability respectively.

Other than those mentioned above, there are five seats where the projected winner has less than a 75% probability of winning.  Auckland Central continues to have a 71% probability of being retained by National’s Nikki Kaye; New Plymouth now has a 52% probability of being won by Labour’s Andrew Little from National’s Jonathan Young, (down from 53% last week); Waimakariri a 74% probability of being retained by Labour’s Clayton Cosgrove (up from 73% last week); Waitakere a 66% of being retained by National’s Paula Bennett (steady); and West Coast-Tasman a 50% probability of being won by Labour’s Damien O'Connor over National’s Chris Auchinvole (steady).  Mr Auchinvole has a 48% probability of retaining the seat, steady compared with last week.

Overall, there has been no change in expected electorate seat tallies over the last week, with National expected to win 39 electorates, Labour 24, the Maori Party 4 and Act, UnitedFuture and Mr Harawira 1 each.

Party Vote, Election Result and Alternative Scenarios

There have been material changes in forecast party vote shares, which are now: National 48.0% (up from 46.5% last week), Labour 29.7% (down from 31.9%), the Greens 7.2% (up from 7.0%), Act 4.0% (steady), New Zealand First 3.8% (down from 4.7%), UnitedFuture 2.4% (up from 2.2%), the Maori Party 1.9% (up from 1.7%), a party around Mr Harawira 1.1% (down from 1.3%), the New Citizen Party 0.7% (steady) and the proposed Reform New Zealand Party 0.4% (steady).

Based on this data, and the electorate results above, Parliament would be as follows: National 62 MPs, Labour 38 MPs, Greens 9 MPs, Act 5 MPs, the Maori Party 4 MPs, UnitedFuture 3 MPs and a party around Mr Harawira 1 MP, for a total of 122 MPs.  A government would be required to have the support of 62 MPs on confidence and supply so that Mr Key’s National Party could govern alone.

iPredict has also examined the impact of Mr Hide and Mr Dunne losing their seats, and New Zealand First reaching the 5% threshold.

Were Act not to win Epsom but Mr Dunne to hold Ohariu, Parliament would be as follows: National 64 MPs, Labour 39 MPs, Greens 10 MPs, the Maori Party 4 MPs, UnitedFuture 3 MPs and a party around Mr Harawira 1 MP, for a total of 121 MPs.  A government would be required to have the support of 61 MPs on confidence and supply and Mr Key could govern alone.

Were both Act to lose Epsom and UnitedFuture to lose Ohariu, Parliament would be as follows: National 65 MPs, Labour 40 MPs, Greens 10 MPs, the Maori Party 4 MPs and a party around Mr Harawira 2 MPs, for a total of 121 MPs.  A government would be required to have the support of 61 MPs on confidence and supply so that, again, Mr Key could govern alone.

Were both Act and UnitedFuture to leave Parliament and the New Zealand First Party to secure MMP’s 5% threshold, Parliament would be as follows: National 62 MPs, Labour 39 MPs, the Greens 9 MPs, New Zealand First 7 MPs, the Maori Party 4 MPs and a party around Mr Harawira 1 MP.  A government would be required to have the support of 62 MPs on confidence and supply so that Mr Key could still govern alone.

Overall, the market indicates an 86% probability there will be a National Prime Minister after the election, up from 84% last week and 83% the week before.

Miscellaneous

In the Rodney electorate, where the National Party’s selection process was scrapped and started again, Mark Mitchell remains favoured with 66% probability, up from 62% last week.  Brent Robinson is second-favourite, with 34% probability of being selected, steady compared with last week.

The probability New Zealanders will elect to retain the MMP voting system in the referendum to be held on Election Day remains steady at 80%.

iPredict is owned by Victoria University of Wellington.  Details on the company and its stocks can be found atwww.ipredict.co.nz  The company is providing full election coverage this year, with contract bundles for the party vote and for every electorate race in the country now available for trading, along with other contract bundles on a wide range of economic, political and social issues.  The weekly political snapshot is taken at a random time each week to avoid market manipulation by political parties or activists.  This week’s was taken at 11.52 am today.

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19 Comments

The best thing hat could happen to Act, would be to get rid of Hide. 

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Absolutely, he showed his true colours during his taxpayer funded overseas jaunt with his female companion. 

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Why wouldn't National support Hide in Epsom, it's  3 or 4 seats for the price of one to the right of centre - it's just arithmetic. 

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you're right that it's just arithmetic les, but that's the only justification there is.

the other side of the argument is that here is a man barely in control of his own party, who is a devotee of an ideology that is thouroughly discredited, and who simply cannot be trusted to be telling the truth.

 

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It is just arithmetic,but wonder if the Nats wont eventually feel backlash from the centre of their party.For me Nats are more ACT  in their leadership ,so policy moves move it to the right, when most fo NZ is centre,centre left.It`s a shame that we don`t have a real alternative.Used to feel that NZ First reflected my old Nat philosophy,but they can be seen as tainted by Helengrad .Perhaps the country has to see that the breaking of small business in NZ,while proclaiming the importance of "earners" and selling concrete assets to overseas printed capital is not the way to have NZ the way we would desire.There`s a feeling of helplessness,trust that we all will be refreshed by the revival when/if  that eventuates,but don`t believe we will.

 

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VL - Are you talking about Winston Peters?

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Probably all true VL, but that won't stand in the way of the electioneering logic.

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My thinking exactly Les, although if Act loses out on its party vote then it could just be Rodney and say 1 other. National may revisit that closer to the time. If Act is polling poorly for its party vote, then maybe National could look to stand someone credible...

Was a bit more surprised by Key's comments on Ohariu as UF is only Peter Dunne, who will never bring in any more MPs from his list in my view, meaning National could push harder for the seat if they think Shanks and beat Chauvel.

But then again, who would want to be Revenue Minister?

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me.....me.....me.....swan about in a big car, do naff all, say things everyone ignores and get paid a shed load for it.....except not the haircut...

regards

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Alex, "if Act loses out on its party vote then it could just be Rodney and say 1 other." So what? Where will the disaffected Act party-voter go? Unlikley to go through centre to the other side, esp given JK's stance on WP. So if it's RH and one other, that's one other JK couldn't pull without Epsom returning RH. Without a credible right(+) of centre candidate Epsom is unlikely to drop RH, I think. My pick is Epsom will return RH and Act will pull at least one other from list, and still be under the 5%! All gravy for JK.

Changing subject, do you (anyone) think Greens could take some electorate seats? Hence multiplying their weight out of the list. With Labour weak, a possibility perhaps?

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Also FYI all, Winston Peters gave this speech over the weekend. His contract on iPredict spiked up after the speech, but has fallen again slightly today.

http://www.nzfirst.org.nz/press-releases/display.php?t=1&i=2941Interesting to see the similarities between NZ First policies and Labour policies. No wonder Goff isn't ruling him out, because they agree on almost everything:

No asset sales

Don't sell farms to nasty foreigners

Control the NZ$ to help exporters

Against private company bailouts

The nasty rich were the big beneficiaries from the tax cuts, and everyone else lost out

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Alex, that's right, Winston has adopted left wing politics as a result of John Key saying he won't deal with him...Winston is a dangerous politician who won't progress NZ at all, let's hope he doesn't get back in...what more do you expect from someone that was trained by Muldoon...

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Depends on were you stand as to "left" I guess these would tend to be centre ground, about which Whinney has always wobbled...

Progress? progress to what the mess of say the US? no thanks...

Muldoon was Labour?

regards

 

 

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MMP offers few friends to National , as the many smaller parties usually swing to the left . And  that being so  , as soiled as ACT currently is , JK would be daft to stand someone against cousin Rodney in Epsom . .....

... . And isn't that what MMP is all about , doing deals and creating strategies to endure political survival ? ......

....... And whilst the pollies , both left & right are engrossed in that , the " NZ-Debtanic "  flounders onwards towards rough economic  waters .......

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National should field a strong candidate and give Rodney a hiding, he deserves nothing less.

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Based on the weekend polls , a National candidate would flog Rodney's hide by 30 % ........ Yet as loathed as Hide is , National have few other credible partners in power ........

....... A rejuvenated Labour under Cunliffe and Jones would close the gap on the government prior to November 26 .

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ACT will lose the seat so they may as well have a decent national candidate. Hide lost all credibility when he went on his junket and his ex-wifes comments about him did not help.

Actually I'm not impressed with National putting up the GST it has added a huge margin to the cost of living to those who can least afford it. I am opposed to the sale of public utilities, all that happens is the new owner extracts all the income from them and do minimal maintenance expenditure while the public pay more for the service. How can that be any help? Nationals policy of mining conservation areas, selling assets, allowing more dairy farming in the South Island thus polluting the rivers and lakes is seriously flawed.

I have come to the conclusion we are better to just keep borrowing money to pay for essential services like the rest of the world is doing, the money is basically worthless any way.

We need to look after the worthwhile members of society, woman, children and working people, cut back on expenditure for criminals, prisons, endless quangos and commissions etc. Why are we paying for a rapist to have a 24 hour minder? Its absurd.

The Govt ignored a report by Wayne Brown and a team of engineers who assessed the damage in Christchurch offering some low cost solutions to the immediate problems they are facing. Fat old Brownlee is running around like an idiot dishing out money to everyone, but nothing is actually being done to get the situation under control.

 

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The" Cane Toad" should fight a fair election and National should put up a candidate,voters should have a choice. The best person wins.

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I recon Key will want Hide and ACT back. He's demonstrated he's prepared to play the long game, as he has with  the Maori Party. Hide and Act are essentially harmless to him and the danger would be more if another right wing party gained traction with someone like Brash(or younger version of) at the helm.

National would be particularily vulnerable to that I believe because essentially they have carried on supporting a bloated welfare system and been prepared to borrow heavily to do so.

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