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Terry Baucher takes a look at more CGT criticisms, reviews upcoming changes to online GST and loss ringfencing

Terry Baucher takes a look at more CGT criticisms, reviews upcoming changes to online GST and loss ringfencing

This week in tax:

  • We look at more criticisms of the Tax Working Group’s proposals on capital gains tax;
  • The Finance and Expenditure Committee hears submissions on a new tax bill for online GST and loss ringfencing; and
  • Finally, it’s terminal tax time!

We will be hearing a lot over the next few weeks and months until the election about capital gains tax. The government will be enhancing later this month its answers to the recommendations made by the Tax Working Group.

In the meantime, there’s plenty of speculation flying about and already groups such as the Taxpayers’ Union and a new group Tax Justice Aotearoa are busy trying and putting their spin on proposals. Taxpayers’ Union is against; the Tax Justice Aotearoa is in favour.

In the meantime, a businessman, Troy Bowker – a former tax consultant and ex-colleague of mine, by the way, from my days at Ernst and Young – wrote in this week’s New Zealand Herald, taking aim at the statistics behind the Tax Working Group’s proposals. He took issue with the household income survey prepared for 2014/15 and thought that the data used was inaccurate on that and then formed a basis of criticism of trying to base the CGT on the data drawn from that.

Now, what Troy didn’t address that is also in the Tax Working Group is a pattern of what happens in capital gains tax in other jurisdictions. What other jurisdictions have found is, the wealthier the individuals involved, the bigger the proportion of income is derived from capital gains.

For example, the Tax Working Group cited Canada and America as examples. But, when Deborah Russell and I were researching Tax and Fairness – our excellent book is still available – in Chapter 5, we looked at this issue and we saw statistics from America, but also looked at Australia and the UK. The pattern was pretty much the same. The wealthier the individual, the more likely the greater proportion of income they would derive from capital gains.

For example, in Australia, in the 2013/14 Australian tax year, 1,205 taxpayers derived over Australian $4.1b in capital gains. That was 30 percent of all capital gains reported in the Australian tax returns.

For the year ended 31st December 2014 in America, in the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers reported 34 percent of all capital gains.

Finally, in the UK, in the same period, the year ended the 2014/15 year, 48 percent of all capital gains were reported by the 17.9 percent of taxpayers who earned more than £100,000 that year.

The pattern is quite clear even if some criticism could be directed at how the survey was conducted and then used by the Tax Working Group. The packing is the same around the world. The greater the wealth of the individuals concerned, the greater the percentage of income is reported that represents capital gains. This will run and run, and it basically will go backwards and forwards.

But bear in mind the old adage – “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”

This can be used both ways. But, statistically, the survey is relatively sound. Her 8,000 responses which I understand by statistics standards is good, and the pattern across those jurisdictions which have capital gains and are providing analysis show the same. The wealthier the individuals involved the greater the proportion of capital gains they report, and this was at the heart of the Tax and Fairness argument that the Tax Working Group brought forward in introducing a capital gains tax.

Just as an aside, the Inland Revenue doesn’t provide a lot of great detailed statistics. That was something the Tax Working Group did recommend should happen going forward. I would certainly wish to see this for two reasons – one, being a tax nerd, it’s always interesting to see what these things could do but; two, it also puts pressure or reminds taxpayers of where they should be and which sectors are paying tax and whether businesses are doing as well as they should be doing.

Inland Revenue did look at a proposal in this space about surveys and matching to income across various sectors, but that program appears to have been put on hold while Inland Revenue gets on with its business transformation programme.

Upcoming tax law changes

This week, on Wednesday, the Finance and Expenditure Select Committee at Parliament heard submissions on the new tax bill relating to the introduction of online GST and loss ringfencing.

It’d be fair to say that neither of these measures are popular with the parties affected, but one criticism that seems to be constant looking at the submissions is how rushed the legislation is.

The legislation for this tax bill – which, if you give it its full title, is the Taxation Annual Rates for 2019/20, GST Offshore Supplier Registration, and Remedial Matters Bill – was introduced just before Christmas. It is for the loss ringfencing provisions meant to take effect from the start of the 2019/20 tax year which was on the 1st April – and, by the way, happy new tax year to everyone! – and, for the GST, 1st of October this year.

Now, as was pointed out, that’s a pretty rushed timetable. Although Inland Revenue as part of the generic tax policy process had released discussion documents on both topics, the timetable has been still pretty compressed. The discussion document for the loss ringfencing was introduced at the end of March 2018 and yet we are supposed to have that legislation enforced a year later.

But, as was pointed out, actually, for some cases, the legislation has a retrospective effect in that the so-called early balance date taxpayers’ people who start therefore are able to adjust their tax to adopt a different balance date of 31st March. Those with the 31st October 2019 balance date, their 2019 tax year started on 1st of November. They’re already within the regime, yet the legislation which puts them in the regime loss ringfencing hadn’t even been introduced to Parliament at that stage.

This is something that’s attracted a great deal of criticism in the process with just about all these submitters talking, and live submissions I have seen made this point, and the submitters speaking on Wednesday to the Select Committee by video can submit by the live stream as well. The loss ringfencing legislation is a particularly poorly drafted piece of legislation.

If you want to have an idea of just how poorly drafted it is, have a look at NSA Taxation’s submission on their website. They really climb into it. The returns introduced which have never been used in the tax act before are poorly defined. It’s not great drafting, and rushed legislation never looks good. Inevitably, what happens – and we see this still with the Look-Through Company regime – it really is often a case of enact in haste, amend at leisure.

We’ll see plenty more on this as it goes by.

One interesting comment quite a few people made this submission on the loss ringfencing was that, if given the government is considering capital gains tax proposals, are these measures really needed and should they be rushing straight through when further legislation which could have effect inside two years will be required. It’s a fair point.

The other point that was made by several submitters – myself included – is that the initial proposals in the discussion document suggested phasing this in over two to three years, and that was something that Treasury and the Ministry of Business, Innovation, and Employment suggested.

The Inland Revenue overruled that when they put this legislation forward for loss ringfencing. Why they did that? Inland Revenue, to be honest at times, is a little bit of a law unto itself, if I put it like that. They cited concerns about setting precedent, but that seems overstated in my view. I also, as a matter of fact, consider that the loss ringfencing rules address the symptoms, not the cause.

A better approach would be to look at restricting interest deductions either by expanding the interest deduction restriction rules in the mixed-use assets’ regime or through the thin capitalisation regime extending that which is something that some other submitters have made.

There is also, way back into the early 1990s, the losses from what we call specified activities which included residential property letting will limit which could be offset against other income was limited to just $10,000. That legislation could easily be reinstated if Parliament wanted to actually get something on the books which was actually workable rather than the rather messy legislation we have at present.

The Australian budget came and went this week. There were some changes. It’s a typical election year budget. The Australian election is due next month, but there’s not much to say about it at this stage because the tax cuts for mostly low-income and small businesses are proposed in the budget, but they’re, of course, really contingent on the Liberal-National Coalition getting back into government.

At this stage, it’s wait-and-see as to what exactly will come out of the Australian budget.

Terminal tax time

Finally, it’s terminal tax payment time for New Zealand taxpayers with a 31st March 2018 balance date. Terminal tax is due on the 7th of April which is effectively going to be next Monday, the 8th of April.

Just a reminder here that, if you are struggling with cashflow or you’re looking at an interest bill because you didn’t pay enough provisional tax, always look to consider making use of tax pooling companies such as Tax Management NZ. We use those for our clients, and it saves thousands of thousands of dollars for our clients, so that’s something to keep in mind.

Also, today is the end of the UK income tax year which, for individuals, runs from the 6th April to the 5th April. Why? Lost in the midst of time. But I can tell you that, back in the 1990s, a suggestion was made to a precursor to HM Revenue and Customs that maybe it should become 31st March. Companies, by the way, can choose 31st March balance date.

The response was that changing the year end from 5th April to 31st March would cause confusion which is bureaucratic speak for “well, we really can’t be bothered,” but it does reflect on the current state of British politics that, if managing a change from 5th April to 31st March was deemed confusing, it’s more wonder Brexit has been a huge headache.


This article is a transcript of the April 5 edition of The Week In Tax, a podcast by Terry Baucher. This transcript is here with permission. You can also listen below:

 

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Just some Saturday afternoon musing.
As a nation, we are proud of being Kiwis and will bond together in unity in times of celebration such as Rugby
world Cups (and again later this year), America's Cup (again next year), Olympic Glory, and at times of shock such as Christchurch earthquake and March 15.
However, when it comes tax issues we seem to become self-centered and self-interest. The majority of those who stand to be affected by a capital gains tax put up every reason why it shouldn't be introduced or won't work. Conversely, the majority of those who won't be affected strongly support the fairness of such a tax.
It is interesting however, that many in the first group feel that Gareth Morgan should have paid tax on his $50 million profit from Trade Me and the $11 million from GMI - two investments made for capital gain and income. And this is despite Gareth presented an academic argument base on the premise of an Economics 101 textbook definition of income.
Me? I have made capital gains and are likely to do so in the future and feel that such gains are no different from any other of my income. I make those investments on the basis of a gain and income and so support a CGT. So, maybe it is just that I am saintly - despite my wife vehemently believing to the contrary. :)

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@printer8, I disagree with you regarding the "fairness" argument .

For the record , I am unlikely to be affected significantly by CGT, but I think is just a resentment tax by those who have not been careful with their money or made no effort to save.

I also think its a bad idea to tax Capital gain when we are so hopelessly short of capital to the point we dont even own our own banks, as we dont have a strong Capital market , a low level of Capital formation and a low level of savings compared to Australia which has strong capital markets , and a robust Super system .

This tax can also be avoided or reduced . In our personal case , our share portfolio can be sold off piecemeal when I retire as and when we need the money , and the CGT will be minimal .Secondly our share portfolio is jointly owned with my wife and the gains can be split , and the likely effect will be close to zero.

I own a share in a commercial property and have already recently transferred those shares into a Trust for our children , so no CGT payable there .......... ever .

FAIRNESS MY BACKSIDE

This CGT has nothing to do with fairness , its just bollocks to even suggest this . Its like a suggestion that we should make the All Blacks cede 10 points as a handicap for every match just because they are successful and do better than all the other teams .

The All Blacks are successful because they are focussed , hard-working , all their time energy and effort in being successful .......... why would you want to take that away from them ?

SMALL BUSINESSES

Take someone who starts a small business ( take interest .co .nz as an example ) , the owners risk all starting the business , often forgo income sometimes for years , burn through cash and savings , and could end up with a viable valuable business, or fail completely .

Now if they succeed do you really want to take that away from them ?

Is that fair ?

Good luck to them , they should be allowed to keep their gains , enjoy the fruits of their risk taking , planning and success , just like the All Blacks .

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Boatmans answer sums CGT nicely. The Govt of today is just looking for a Cash Cow to push its Agenda. Cullen killed all private Superannuation funds, look at the mess Kiwi Saver is becoming

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The capital gains tax needs to be fair to everyone, not just targeting landlords or lifestyle blocks, farmers.

It needs to be applied to every one including the family home, which after a while if capital gains tax is implemented, it will include the family home, do not believe the lie, it will not.

The Government is doing this so to prevent political suicide, they also know many people rent, many landlords will leave the market and there will be more of a rental shortage and rents will increase, their is talk that some landlords will invest in Australia, of course the Australians will welcome the easy investments.

This Government is reckless and seems not to plan anything properly

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Hi ddp
“Many landlords will leave the market.”
I disagree - a very few misguided landlords may leave because of the CGT. However the reality at the moment is that currently there is little chance of a capital gain in the medium term and in fact a capital loss is on the cards if one listens to the DGMs. So landlords are hanging in there even without the likelihood of any capital gain let alone a taxed one.
In the longer term, if there is capital gains, landlords will keep the vast majority of any such gain.
It may interest you that up until 2011, landlords could claim depreciation of the value of the building - from memory about 3% - against income. When this was abolished, there wasn’t a wholesale exit of landlords - in fact quite the opposite from 2012 onwards.
Landlords looking to increase their portfolio will be looking at total likely return, and at the moment it is very poor yields and unlikely capital gains - along with high LVR - that are the key and reason RBNZ figures for investor lending are so low.
The only reality I see is that a CGT is likely to come in at 20% to appease those against a CGT. However, just like GST introduced at 10%, it will increase.

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As for the suggestion that NZ residential landlords will invest in Australia - that is highly unlikely.
Property investment is largely a hand-on investment involving screening tenants, chasing up rents, monitoring what’s happening with drive bus, and attending to minor maintenance and contracting larger repair jobs. A leaky tap washer in a rental in one’s own town is a 20 minute no cost job, a phone call about a noisy party can be dealt with readily and face-to-face; however if these are in other towns forget it let alone Australia. And don’t talk to me about property managers; expensive and inefficient and lots and lots of horror stories.
And whilst talking about Australia, I think that you will find their stamp duty payable up front, makes any CGT look like a lick from a pussy cat.
To suggestNZ property investors shifting to Australia is just further anti-CGT alarmist comment that is ridiculous.

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The Capital gains tax must be fair to everyone, which its not, they say the family home will be exempt, for how long, do not believe the lie it will not happen , it will after a while, mean while some landlords with all the changes are looking at Australia to invest, of course Australia will welcome the investment

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@ddporter ........... the family home will only be exempt until the registered owner dies , after which the beneficiaries ( likely your kids ) will have to fork our for any gains , real or deemed .

So they will be forced to sell Nana's house to pay the tax .

CGT is an insidious form of taxation only ever introduced by lefties , and is founded on resentment by those too lazy to save , or too careless with their money .

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CGT is an insidious form of taxation only ever introduced by lefties , and is founded on resentment by those too lazy to save , or too careless with their money.

Better to stick with Right-leaning economist Milton Friendman's approach of using a straight Land Value Tax then eh? At least then no one can whinge with half-baked theories about resentment, laziness, carelessness etc.

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