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In any struggle between Parliament and the Courts there can be only one winner – and it’s not the Courts

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In any struggle between Parliament and the Courts there can be only one winner – and it’s not the Courts
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By Chris Trotter*

It's just simmering at the moment, but a boil-over between the Judiciary and the Legislature cannot be far away. Former Solicitor-General Una Jagose KC is much too good a lawyer to present her arguments in such blunt terms.

Nevertheless, it is difficult to interpret her recent breakfast address to the Law Association as anything other than a call for New Zealand’s politicians to straighten-up and fly right.

“I think we are in trouble as a society and a democracy, and I think it matters more than ever that we lawyers speak into that.”

There will of course be many New Zealanders who see the intervention of lawyers as the cause of their society’s and democracy’s troubles, not the solution.

In the month of July, that scorching month of the Northern Hemisphere in which the Americans declared their independence, and the people of Paris attacked the Bastille, one can easily imagine Kings George III and Louis XVI muttering: “God protect us from intervening lawyers!”

A forlorn prayer. Lawyers are the Constitution’s electricians. They understand its hidden wiring. They are trained to recognise the tell-tale signs of overloaded circuits. When the smell of ozone fills the air and the switches start sparking – who ya gonna call?

“We lawyers need to speak up more about the constitutional settings that our democratic system rests on”, warns Jagose. “Because in our system of democratic government committed to the rule of law, understanding constitutional settings matters – and it can’t just matter to us.”

To make the rule of law matter to the rest of us, Jagose urges the nation’s lawyers to take up that burden with apostolic urgency:

“Speak to people in your running clubs, in your book clubs but make it interesting”, said the former Solicitor-General, “because it is the people who hold the democratic legitimacy for each of those three branches of constitutional government.”

Jagose’s choice of examples is telling. Could there be anything more redolent of middle-class self-improvement than a running club or a book club? Because, let’s face it, how many working-class people have the energy, education, or inclination to devote what little down-time they possess to jogging with their besties around the nearest leafy park, or discussing the latest novel by David Eggars?

Jagose is not mistaken, however, in targeting the middle-class for her profession’s constitutional proselytising. At its core the battle between the Judiciary and the Legislature is a battle between the aspirations and values of the educated middle-class and the beliefs of those occupying less exalted positions of the socio-economic hierarchy.

“We might already be on the road to a cynical citizenry,” warned Jagose. “ If we don’t continue to promote and protect some of the [constitution’s] important elements […] we can lose that delicate fabric forever. And once it’s gone, it will be very hard to reinstate.”

The problem would appear to be that in New Zealand’s idiosyncratic take on the Westminster constitutional model those “important elements” are notoriously difficult to define.

It was Lord Robin Cooke of Thorndon who first raised the subversive possibility that there might be a constitutional limit to the “lawful powers” of the Legislature:

“I do not think that literal compulsion, by torture for instance, would be within the lawful powers of Parliament. Some common law rights presumably lie so deep that even Parliament could not override them.” 

But Cooke’s dicta invites his fellow jurists to set off down a very slippery slope indeed.

His example of an Act of Parliament authorising the state to carry out torture in circumstances sufficiently critical to justify its use is likely to (and was almost certainly intended to) evoke severe moral misgivings among thoughtful citizens.

Perhaps not as many today as in 1984 when Cooke offered his “rights that lie so deep” aside in Taylor v New Zealand Poultry Board.

Seventeen years later, after Al Qaeda’s terrorists had delivered the horrors of 9/11, the question of torture (“enhanced interrogation techniques”) ceased to be of purely academic interest.

Faced with the imminent explosion of a bomb powerful enough to kill thousands of innocent citizens, who would quibble with the proposition that its creator, now in state custody, be compelled – by torture if necessary – to reveal the bomb’s location and how it might be defused?

No, the looming showdown between the Judiciary and the Legislature is most unlikely to be triggered by a governing coalition attempting to legalise torture.

Where the rupture is most likely to occur is in response to legislative efforts to halt and reverse the legal manifestations of the decolonisation and indigenisation projects in which a substantial number of New Zealand’s leading jurists have enrolled themselves.

Legislative efforts to roll back the advances of transgenderism – as exemplified in Jenny Marcroft’s Legislation (Definitions of Woman and Man) Amendment Bill – are another potential flashpoint.

It is in relation to issues such as these that the ideological confrontations between the educated middle class and the rest of the population is likely to be at its sharpest.

Jagose’s concern for the health and longevity of New Zealand’s democracy merits some examination. Democracy may deliver a government like that of Jacinda Ardern, under which a plethora of causes dear to the hearts of middle-class New Zealanders are supported by Acts of Parliament.

That such acts may be regarded by less educated, older, and more conservative citizens as tantamount to legalising torture simply does not cross the minds of the professionals emerging from today’s universities. That’s why, when a reversal of electoral fortunes occurs – as it did in 2023 – the legislative responses of the new government are greeted with horror.

“These attacks on Māori and Trans cannot be allowed to stand,” declare the losers. “Their rights run too deep for a House of Representatives temporarily occupied by Far Right troglodytes to simply cancel them. If this is ‘parliamentary sovereignty’ at work, then it is a false and dangerous principle, one which the Judiciary is morally obliged to over-rule.”

Mahvash Ikram, covering the breakfast meeting for LawNEWS, quotes Jagose on the subject of parliamentary supremacy:

“[It] is a foundational principle, but it has its own rules and conventions [and] operating model [of] how it works that defines and confines its authority.”

“Quoting a former Attorney-General, the late Sir Michael Cullen,” Ikram continued, “she said Parliament’s supreme authority is not self-sustaining and depends on the government adhering to deep constitutional norms.

“‘Can Parliament conclusively define, without Māori, the meaning of that treaty that occupies the foundational place in our constitution… Do you see limits to constitutional legitimacy there? Because I do… These sorts of questions… illuminate the limits to our democracy and to parliamentary supremacy.’”

Sir Michael may no longer be with us, but his question is still very much alive. Upon the answer received, and the number of New Zealand voters willing to accept it, hinges the enduring legitimacy of the doctrine of the separation of powers that has distinguished our constitutional arrangements since the Seventeenth Century.

Jagose vouchsafed to her audience of lawyers that she did not believe that the courts were overreaching their powers when they “tested Parliament’s limits”. Many lawyers and even some judges would take a very different view.

A proper respect for democracy will always accord supremacy to an elected body of legislators, because the idea of according supremacy to a small number of unelected jurists is constitutionally unacceptable to most New Zealanders (if not most Americans!) The Judiciary has the right to advise, even caution, the nation’s lawmakers, but it has no right to test them.

Jagose is dubious:

“Judicial independence does not threaten Parliament, she said. Rather, it keeps power within lawful bounds.”

Ah, but who sets those bounds? And under what circumstances? Posing such questions can be injurious to a nation’s constitutional health.

An anointed king of England sparked a civil war by attempting to overawe his kingdom’s legislators.

It cost him his head.


*Chris Trotter has been writing and commenting professionally about New Zealand politics for more than 30 years. He writes a weekly column for interest.co.nz. His work may also be found at http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com.

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21 Comments

Who gets to control the country: a class of legal mandarins or the elected representatives of the people?

Isn't the insistence of the former on their 'rightness' more damaging to democracy than the latter taking things to the citizens? 

Given we have a body of laws and conventions rather than a formal constitution, and that those laws and conventions are vague enough to allow apparently endless attempts at reinterpretation, isn't it the actual job of parliament to define things clearly to remove uncertainty end enact the will of the people?

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The latter. What shouldn’t be overlooked though are the safeguards in the role of the Solicitor General and power of the Governor General. Parliament can be dismissed. The Australian Whitlam government suffered, whether fairly or not,  exactly that fate.

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The original writers of The US Constitution wrestled with this one - knowing the probability that someone would grab power. 

What we are seeing now, though, both there and here, is a usurping of democracy by business - via corporate donations and the lobbying revolving-door (Bishop being a prime example). That has proven to win - money buys elections, especially in lockstep with the repression of thinking (Stanford's Standards being a prime example). 

I've long assumed that the less-funded will 'lose' - and therefore have mentally extrapolated societal trajectory possibilities. They all end in collapse - via unchecked resource reduction (which is what we're seeing in the current Govt - commandeering the DoC land, drill drill mine mine deplete deplete. The joke is that there isn't even one remaining doubling-time left. We're into the last one. 

Pick your percentage - most folk think 3% is harmless and forever; that says all-over inside 24 years. Except we're finding out that growth based on the last half is kinda moot...

The question of all is: can we maintain democracy and laws and policing and penalties - ex GROWTH? I'm tending to 'no'. 

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Israel is a current example of the disastrous consequences of an activist judiciary accumulating enough power to usurp parliament and effectively create new law.    

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There are some in Israel who would think you have that back to front:
https://archive.is/dt1xz
https://archive.is/ZiDx4
https://archive.is/Mh5eQ
And back before 7 October 2023:
https://archive.is/gKJHu

 

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FG. Speaking of safeguards, did I correctly understand you to indicate your computer may be in need of some ?

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Baffling. Calling me a computer luddite is high praise but it wasn’t my fault. Went in and paid my annual thru Press Patron. One week later code name Foxglove got replaced by Outsider. Not so long ago we shared thoughts of Greene & Le Carre. My conspiracy antenna is on high alert.

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David Chaston is rumoured to be head of an FSB sleeper cell which has tentacles through all levels of NZ society and institutions.    

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Jagose positions the judicial activism generating so much concern among the electorate, as simply 'independence' and 'keeping power within lawful bounds'. Her artful proposition dismisses the widespread public perception that judges decisions are increasingly politicised and increasingly step outside the intentions of parliament. Plummeting confidence in the judiciary should be ringing alarm bells to Jagose rather than bringing her out swinging.      

 

      

 

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"In any struggle between Parliament and the Courts there can be only one winner – and it’s not the Courts"

Which is exactly the way it should be.

 

UnaJagose: https://share.google/aimode/6ulbjZnNyeHjVaDV4

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Its moments like these that the lack of a written constitution shows its worth....long may it last.

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Amen to that. Any attempt to produce a written constitution in NZs current social political climate would be disastrously divisive. Contemplating what the agenda driven output of the academic and managerial classes charged with the task would look like, is the stuff of nightmares. The allegedly devious insertion by bureaucrats of an UNDIP clause in the Indian TPA a salutary reminder of the politicisation of our public service.    

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Aye Sir Geoffrey Palmer has consistently tried to bring such a document into being. Likely, in a Washington sense, he sought the stature of both author,  and father of the resultant nation. Gets a bit obvious in terms of self acclamation. Key wanted to be the man behind the flag ( scuttled by the people) and further back,  McKinnon the name of the big new parliamentary wing (scuttled by Winston.)

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Palmer was the person responsible for inserting the undefined Treaty "Principles" into the SOE Act. 

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No, the looming showdown between the Judiciary and the Legislature is most unlikely to be triggered by a governing coalition attempting to legalise torture.

Could it not be argued that with the govt having been proven to have enacted lockdowns illegally, and having had no accountability whatsoever, has pushed NZ society towards questioning authority more, and losing faith in the rule of law?

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No.

What has happened is that the societal narrative has increasingly been shown to be false. 

The narrative went: We are good (they are bad). Our religion is the best (theirs is invalid). Our leaders are valiant and true (theirs are evil, despots, bad). Out political construct is the best (theirs is evil, bad, not as good). Growth lifts all boats (so we don't have to feel guilty about screwing them). Growth is forever (see: boats). 

Unfortunately, that narrative is running into the limits of a very finite planet. And is therefore increasingly unsupportable. One way to mentally assimilate that, is to lie (Trump). Another is to pretend it isn't so (real-estate Ponzi; others) and continue the increase of unassuageable forward bets. Yet another (often overlapping the other two) is to blame someone (see kknz upthread). People self-reinforce and end up well down rabbit-holes - as we see here, where some posters are always slanted. 

Clear thinking starts with honest self-appraisal. Then honest appraisal of the topics and things around one, then wider until wide-boundary. Then you realise that no Government can have a pre-mandate for reacting to a virus with unknown potential - they did their best (and better than the current mob would have). The reaction since - the indignation - is likely fear-driven; a manifestation of the 'I don't want to ever die' theme. How dare they curtail my.... right to live? It's an arrogance, shielding an insecurity. Just like Maga. 

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Then you realise that no Government can have a pre-mandate for reacting to a virus with unknown potential - they did their best

Irrelevent. This does not make them above the laws that govern the land, set by parliament itself, whom should lead by example by adhering to them. If the govt's best is to circumvent their own legislation in the largest exertion of power seen in a generation, it is a poor example of leadership and we would never wish a repeat. Every individual should be held to the standard of the law no matter what level of authority they hold, this being a fundamental necessity of a functional society. Why else do we have the rule of law?

The reaction since - the indignation - is likely fear-driven; a manifestation of the 'I don't want to ever die' theme. How dare they curtail my.... right to live? It's an arrogance, shielding an insecurity.

On the contrary, many have had their assertions proven correct in that the govt overstepped their bounds, and by current trajectory, are never to be held account for their actions. Its egregious.

People self-reinforce and end up well down rabbit-holes - as we see here, where some posters are always slanted. 

This is rather amusing coming from yourself PDK, especially given.....

 Clear thinking starts with honest self-appraisal.

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Tell us what you think about vaccines. It’s a good litmus test.

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This is a bigger debate, one around the quality of government. "This does not make them above the laws that govern the land...." They make the laws, so they get to decide what "the laws of the land" are. Those laws are tested and interpreted by the courts. what you're really talking about is the quality of the laws, which is a reflection of the quality of the government elected by the people. Your reference point being the COVID lockdowns; I suggest the came to their own conclusions based on the best information and advice they had and chose to try to save lives. That I suggest was proven successful. That you disagree with their decisions and how they did it is your right, and I think history is proving that they were less right and you less wrong. But the external politics (American re the vaccines, Chinese re the origins of the virus) were beyond any control that could be exercised in NZ and we had limited ability to produce the required vaccines in the timeframe needed. In short they did the best the could with what they had. Could they have done better? Absolutely. Did internal politics influence what was done? Certainly!

Hold the players to account, think about who you would vote for in the coming election, but make sure you do vote.

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National needs to pull it's head in. Thank goodness, unlike activist lawyers, we can kick them out.

"The second bill amends the Policing Act. …Historically, Police surveillance has been legally permitted only for people suspected of crimes …Under the new Act, surveillance will be allowed for ‘an intelligence purpose connected with a function, or an activity, of the Police, or any other lawful purpose connected with a function, or an activity, of the Police.’ In other words, the Police can conduct surveillance of the NZ public for any reason they can come up with. There is no limit. Further, the Police will now have the authority to conduct surveillance against any private property, so long as they do it from a public space. The Police could, for example, legally set up a surveillance site in a hillside park that could easily look into private property, 24 hours a day. No warrant required; no suspicion of wrongdoing needed, even. They just need to “consider that the information will or may support the Police in performing a function, or carrying out an activity, of the Police”.

https://x.com/darkwaterjack/status/2068836186999963953

https://singularity.kiwi/nz-government-surveillance-expansion-encryptio…

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The current National-led coalition government has processed 125 bills under urgency

since taking office in late 2023. [1]

The erosion of the democratic process is worrying. We have no second chamber to act as a check on parliament, so surely few if any bills should be passed under urgency. How many of them will turn out to have been poorly drafted? We are seeing the wholesale destruction of local democracy and not too many seem to care. I find it sad.

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