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Costco economics: make this bigger, drop the price - walking the floor with Patrick Noone

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Costco economics: make this bigger, drop the price - walking the floor with Patrick Noone
Patrick Noone is managing director of Costco in New Zealand and Australia.
Brands, brands, brands: Costco boss Patrick Noone thinks New Zealanders can get a better deal.

Even Costco’s New Zealand boss Patrick Noone can’t believe how much cheaper the US firm’s new Auckland store is than its competitors.

Costco’s New Zealand managing director says he popped to retail rival Farmers and was surprised to see a three-pack of Calvin Klein-branded men's underwear for sale for more than $100. 

A three-pack of Calvin Klein-branded men's underwear at Costco? It’s selling for $37.98 at the global retailer’s brand new Westgate store in west Auckland which opened early on Wednesday morning.

“I couldn’t believe it,” Noone says. “And I believe it’s the same for jeans, and with everything. There’s fat in this market.”

That will be welcome news for NZ consumers, grappling with ever-rising inflation and a cost of living crisis.

The American retail giant brings competition across a number of markets; petrol, groceries and fresh produce, tyres, hearing aids, prescription glasses – and of course, all the other nice-to-haves you start to expect at Costco like branded televisions, outdoor furniture and branded discount clothes, underwear, shoes, Christmas decorations and even diamonds. 

It has opened its first store, and has flagged it may open further stores in Christchurch and Wellington. There are murmurs there may be a new store announcement for 2023.

But many of its items do look different. Costco is obsessed with value and bulk buying.

A pack of sausages might be a six-pack at your usual supermarket. Or a punnet of blueberries will be sold in a small pack.

Costco blueberries only come in a 1 kilogram pack, with a price tag of $59.98. Strawberries are also available, but only in bulk, for $26.98.

The trays of fresh meat are huge. The famous cakes are a similar size.

Want one tube of lip balm? Unlikely at Costco, but you could buy a bulk pack of Burt’s Bees with many different kinds of its branded lip balm, instead.

The focus on size, and value, is relentless.

Noone is blunt about why.

“Members pay a membership to shop here, they need to save money. If we don't do our jobs properly, then we don't exist. So that is a great motivator. Constantly, every day.”

That membership in New Zealand is $60 a year for a regular shopper. The membership is the not-so-secret special sauce that makes Costco such an interesting player, and proposition for consumers.

The membership underpins the savings the firm is able to pass on to its members. The fees paid every year allow Costco to drive prices down, which Noone says is the deal it has with members. Pay the membership, save when you shop.

There was recent talk of the US membership fee potentially being increased, but Noone says that was a “North American” discussion. NZ's membership price is set.

Noone himself is working hands-on with suppliers to decide what a product sold at Costco Westgate looks like. What size will it be? (Big.) Does it need to be a two-pack, or a three-pack, or more? Costco goods need to have as little packaging as possible. (Keep costs down). And it also needs to be a good size for filling a pallet. (Efficiency).

And of course, it has to be “the best quality,” Noone says.

Noone says the thing that excites him most about this new store is working with New Zealand suppliers – which he calls partners – to create new versions of their products to satiate the Costco market.

The firm had a Zoom call attended by something like 600 NZ food producers before opening. Enterprising types might send Noone a message on Linkedin.

Noone says Costco will work with NZ suppliers on everything from what the packaging looks like, to the size, to the recipes, to the production, and once the products have been tested in the Auckland store they may well be rolled out to Costco stores in other countries – if they sell well.

“The feedback will be in the sales,” Noone says. And he will be checking sales regularly. Every couple of hours, he says, he’ll be looking at what people in the Auckland store are buying.

“Looks pretty normal so far to me,” Noone says, as he looks into the trolleys being pushed past.

Noone picks up a meat product made in New Zealand for the store, branded Grandpa’s. He turns it, looks at it from different angles. He seems pleased with what he sees, but says there are improvements to be made.

“This is a new vendor of ours. They're making a good product, a great product. In Australia, that product would be double the size. And a very competitive price point. But perhaps in the future, we'll work with these guys and say, how can we drive more value into that? How can we make it better for the member to buy more, but save more money as well?”

Noone sees another product from Grandpa’s. This one is “probably a little too retail size for us”, he says.

It’s not big enough. It’s not Costco-sized. But the product is excellent, Noone says.

“We'd like to probably have that a third bigger, or a half bigger again,” Noone says. “And if we did that, we can actually have less packaging and drive that price down. So it's $14.99 now. Maybe we can make it $20, but double the size of it, for example.”

Noone says the firm buys about $400 million worth of New Zealand made goods, and when it embarked on its NZ store the retailer looked at how much it already bought that was NZ made, and “we were shocked”.

For example, Costco in Japan was selling carrots from a NZ supplier. Now Costco has better visibility of the New Zealand products it sells, it can sell those products both in New Zealand but into other markets too, Noone says.

“Now that we are here in the marketplace working with partners, I think we will see that number [$400m] grow.”

Noone sees another new New Zealand product. Again, he says the packaging is excellent. It's eye-catching. 

“But can we make it bigger? And drive more value into that as well?”

Noone doesn’t buy into the idea that bulk won’t work in New Zealand. That somehow our shoppers are different

He says that view is “snobbery”.

“When we first opened in Australia in 2009, I remember there was a lot of retail gurus on TV, saying 'you know, it's not going to work here, because the people don't have big freezers. They have small cupboards, we’re not Americans here.' But the secret is, around the world, people are all the same. They want to buy great stuff and save money doing it. And so that's all we do. We provide that great stuff and save people money doing it.”

And the people did come to Costco’s first day.

One floor of its 800-strong car park building was almost full by 7.30am, and the strong consumer appetite for the new store saw its official opening dragged forward.

In the end it was a low-key kick-off, a spokesperson says, with a decision made to just cut the ribbon and let people in, rather than have them queuing and crowding outside the mega store.

Noone says he thinks it was a record turnout for an opening. 

Why were shoppers there? Competition, says one. 

“Finally,” she says to Noone. “I’ve been waiting for Costco to come here for years.”

“I’m sorry it took so long,” Noone says.

Another shopper says she knows Costco from the US and Canada. She says she’s not looking for anything in particular – some groceries, a bit of Christmas shopping, maybe some new headphones.

But she wishes this NZ Costco had more kids’ clothes. 

“Other stores I’ve been to had more.”

No one has really been talking much about Costco and clothes.

But Noone thinks it’s a “major.” Branded clothes, sold cheap, are a key part of the Costco offering, and he believes there is plenty of competition it can inject into New Zealand.

Noone says competition makes “us all work harder.”

“I think the people that benefit from competition are the consumers. Our members will benefit from us always being on guard to make sure we do the right thing. And the consumers in other markets will be the same way. So, I think it's a good thing for New Zealand that we've got this global retailer here bringing the merchandise from overseas, that's available now in the big markets of the world. I think that's a good thing for New Zealanders."

Costco by the numbers

$100m to build Auckland store

$60 annual membership fee

$55 annual membership fee for business

800 car parks at Westgate

14,800m² Auckland store size

More than 275,000 employees globally

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Margin of Costco is around 1 to 14%.

Margin of NZ's supermarkets is around 50 to 500%.

See.

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Do you mean mark-up? Margin can't be more than 100%

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If I buy for 20c and sell for $1.20, the margin is 500%. Margin is sell price - cost price expressed as a percentage of the cost.

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Incorrect. Where did you get this information from?

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Welcome to New Zealand.

I am sure other cities around the country would welcome you too.

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I'm expecting 4 Costcos within 5 years ... 2 in Orc Land , 1 each in Wellington & Chch ... 

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Its spelt Auckland...doubt they will be in a hurry to open in the little other hamlets across NZ

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Why would a grocery business want to enter and expand in NZ’s highly regulated grocery market? I think they will stop at 1 store… 

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so they beat Ikea by about 12 months!

 

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IKEA is likely 18-20 months away.

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I go for the flat packed furniture. i go back for The Swedish meatballs!

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A three-pack of Calvin Klein-branded men's underwear at Costco? It’s selling for $37.98 at the global retailer’s brand new Westgate store in west Auckland which opened early on Wednesday morning.

For the past 10+ years, I've been buying Uniqlo daks and socks on trips to Japan, S'pore, and Bangkok. Hooked. 

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Uniqlo clothing is great.

I used to stock up whenever I traveled to Australia for work, but doing everything remote now means I haven't had the chance.

Their Airism line stuff is very comfy and durable, and they make great functional clothes e.g. smart looking trousers that have enough flexibility and breathability for biking to work in. 

Definitely my favourite clothes shop and I cannot wait to stock up when I finally go back overseas soon ... I really need a job as a climate policy advisor or something like that so I can travel lots on other people's dime and stock up more, as opposed to slumming it in Zoom calls all day.

I hope Costco comes to the South Island in due course ... I'd happily pay the fee to buy in bulk. And I hope other retailers are forced to drop their pants a bit too in response. 

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I used to stock up whenever I traveled to Australia for work, but doing everything remote now means I haven't had the chance.

Been to the Melbourne store too. You're on it bro. I'm stacked with Airism as well. And the HeatTech. 

Cheaper than Costco and Farmers. 

Their formal range is pretty damn stylish IMO. 

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I agree on Uniqlo. Really durable and well made. 
Leaves H & M for dead.

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Ha. 

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I bought most of my clothes there when I lived in Asia. My last 3 work trips I even bought my wife some items she specifically requested. Great value, price point, quality and style. Let's invite them to NZ! Costco, Sam's Club, Wal-Mart, Carrefour all make NZ retailers look like pirates! Their margins must be huge by comparison.

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Agree with the comments on clothing from Uniqlo - good quality and style. Also Carrefour which incidentally left the Japanese market when the home team chains threatened the local suppliers with a buyer’s boycott if they dealt with the French interlopers. Very Japanese.

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A three-pack of Calvin Klein-branded men's underwear at Costco? It’s selling for $37.98
 

Very timely. I actually went underwear shopping today! Best I could find was $30 per pair, that’s across all the standard brands. All made in China or Cambodia. I mean I am pretty frugal but I refuse to pay that, unfortunately I don’t live in a large centre where there is more competition. I might look online. Would love to know what Farmers pay for a $30 pair of Jockey boxers???

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Thunderpants.  Not cheap but well made in the Wairarapa.

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Don't let anybody tell you that competition is bad.

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The irony is that Costco will eliminate much of the competition here. There's no way local players can match Costco prices, they just don't have the same clout with suppliers.

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There may not be that much goodwill for local players, given what they expect Kiwis to pay over and above what our Australian cousins pay for many of the same, if not identical items.

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"Local" isn't something people really associate the large supermarket duopoly with, anyway. Local is the small butchery, greengrocer, baker or cafe. People are often happy to support their actual local business, where they're less happy seeing the supermarket duopoly pricing high while squeezing local suppliers.

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From the pricing I have seen in store. I think the local players may have had the hard word from Foodstuffs and Woolworths to not be too generous on pricing to Costco or risk retaliation from their 2 biggest customers. Costco should focus on home brand and imported alternative products to get the value they need for their customer base. Until they develop the scale to exert real pressure on the incumbents. 

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I think once global shipping goes back to normal the local suppliers who wont bring prices down will be replaced.  I remember in Australia the smoked salmon I used to buy was Norwegian.  So there is no problem bringing in imported meats and seafood.  This is just a temporary post-Covid situation, which is why Noone is going to push back on those suppliers.

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Anecdotally it sounds like that. The NZ branded food ain’t cheap because why would those brands risk losing the duopoly for one single Costco store. The international clothing sounds like a much better deal. 

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Anecdotally Costco expected margins are half of what Countdown and Foodstuffs demand and they are also just more interested in a win win relationship with suppliers. Rather than the duopolies  win loose, cost plus business model. Costco should forget about dealing with the big brand local food supply corporations for now and focus on their home brand as well as introducing their customers to new  imported products. The world is a huge place and  awash with great quality products that don't get a look in here in NZ. Due to the symbiotic relationship between established suppliers and the duopoly supermarket chains.

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Whole large cooked chicken $7.99.

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Similar to Japan. And massive pizza slices and hot dogs for 100 yen. Bottomless soda as well. 

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Soda?

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Have they got milk cheese butter, are the prices much cheaper 

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What's "milk cheese butter"? 

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One poorly-made product

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It started as milk, but after three weeks in the clapped out fridge of one of Flying Highs' rentals it has the consistency of butter and smells rather like Limburger cheese.

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Appropriate username

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What do ya mean.

Promoting the reeferendumb in 2020

Remember dont drink and drive... Smoke dope and fly home 

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I only have one rental in another city mate not a string of them and I keep closely to my landlord obligation... so, very funny. How are your rentals I bet they are not up to scratch. 

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Please accept my Apologies, I thought you were a reincarnation of DD BLSH and his various other identities. 

I don't own rentals, and have little desire to.

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It's more likely to be Milq™, Cheez™, and Butta™.

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Two 500g blocks of Mainland unsalted butter were $14.98 or $1.50 per 100g, six cents cheaper than Pak ‘n Save.

Kirkland’s milk was $5.29 for 3l, 3l homebrand bottle at Pak ‘n Save $5.69.

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$7.49 per block is not a bargain. Costco is promoting 20 percent saving.

Thanks for the info Rebecca

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I am surprised that they can’t compete on milk. Tesco in the UK sell 3l for $3.66 NZD: https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/254957550 Actually I think our local petrol station sells milk cheaper. 

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... the last time I went into a Warehouse the milk & butter were considerably cheaper than at the local supermarkets  ... 

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Membership terms and conditions:

  • Shirts and shoes are required.

Looks like they have a good understanding of New Zealand...

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Says nothing about pants...

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... a two piece suit ... top half bought in 2022 ... botton half in 2023 ... 

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Does an oodie count? What about dressing gown and slippers, they seem to the fashion of the day out West.

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In some parts it is the fashion. Out West it is laziness.

You forgot the apostrophe at the start of 'oodie.

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I would recoup the $60 membership fee merely by buying ONE bag of cat food.  The savings are that extreme.

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Food stuff are allegedly using ipsos to obtain costcos prices - theyre worried i bet!

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Excess profits attract competition and inevitably foreign players want a slice of the New Zealand market. Where Government regulation has failed market forces will succeed.

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Same reason we’re now seeing South American cartels in NZ.

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Indeed. Of course setting aside for the minute that the extremely tight land use regulation we have in this country is one of the ways the duopoly is reinforced...

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Why do they always end up in the middle of nowhere? If they were more central than people can easily come from everywhere in Auckland. When they are in Westgate its too far from 80% of Auckland to bother. 

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Hmmm, whats the cost of buying a few 10s of acres of Central Auckland land  (Costco warehouse and the carparking required - no, a bloody bicycle or public bus won't work when you are bulk buying), and then the annual rates which all of cost factors into the cost of goods sold. 

Then the likelihood of actually getting all those small parcels of land that make up the area you want without 1 holdout that thinks they can bend you over a barrel like has happened with St Lukes mall.  Finally resource consent, and development contributions, and traffic management etc.  Just imagine having to deal with Auckland Council on that lot.  You'd be a braver man than me to even try.

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Somewhere like the old foodstuffs site in Mt Roskill?

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The last people Foodstuffs would have knowingly  sold to would be a competitior.  Besides, they sold it back in 2018ish to Goodmans Property, for $93m.  Currently being redeveloped.

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It's not really in the middle of nowhere, it's prime Auckland Council NIMBY "that's where we should be intensifying, not close to the CBD" land.

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True that. The inside out city with the ring of density on the outside and the single house zoning in the middle (but still secretly spend all the rates money in the middle). 

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Land use regulation + of course higher land costs in more built up areas. Bulk retail chains typically locate where land is cheaper, because they need a lot of it, but still has good infrastructure connections to reach customers. Westgate is an obvious choice.

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This can’t be a bad thing for groceries inflation moving forward.

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For a small part of west Auckland. At current fuel prices and the membership fee it wouldn’t make sense to drive far.  

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I think their catchment will be bigger than that.

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Incentivising excess consumption 

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Or just making it possible to not pay through the nose for stuff we get fisted for here? 

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Costco blueberries only come in a 1 kilogram pack, with a price tag of $59.98.

That's outrageous.  1kg of Pams blueberries at New World is $12.50! 

 

There's fat, and then there's fat

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Guessing there's a wrong number somewhere in there.

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Fresh vs frozen.   125g fresh blueberries at countdown is $12.89

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And NZ blueberries, not imported frozen berries from China full of Hepatitis. 

https://www.mpi.govt.nz/news/media-releases/risk-of-hepatitis-a-from-fr…

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