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Nathan Field points out there is no 'fair price' for ageing technology, so investors need to assess their exposure to companies that will fade as the new takes over, despite rear-guard defences from those affected

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Nathan Field points out there is no 'fair price' for ageing technology, so investors need to assess their exposure to companies that will fade as the new takes over, despite rear-guard defences from those affected
Driverless taxis in San Francisco

Like it or not, robotaxis are finally coming. Perhaps not to New Zealand any time soon, but to several major cities in the US over the next year, including Seattle, Miami, Los Angeles and Houston.

The two leading robotaxi companies, Alphabet-owned Waymo and GM-backed Cruise, have already been operating in Phoenix and San Francisco for several years, clocking up millions of miles and valuable data points. However, despite their improving efficacy, robotaxis are yet to win over the hearts and minds of the general public.

It doesn’t help that every negative robotaxi story is gleefully reported in the media. Most are minor annoyances, such as cars holding up traffic or failing to adapt to roadworks. There have also been a handful of more serious incidents – a Cruise car pinned a fallen pedestrian to the ground, another crashed into a fire truck. A series of indiscretions recently prompted the California Department of Motor Vehicles to suspend Cruise’s robotaxi permit.

But if it’s public safety that concerns people about self-driving cars, it’s likely a misconception. Admittedly, reliable data is thin on the ground, but early indications are that autonomous cars are already safer than their human-driven equivalents.

A recent study led by reinsurance giant Swiss Re observed that self-driving Waymo cars in San Francisco and Phoenix were significantly safer than human driven cars. After 35 million miles, property damage claims dropped by 95% and bodily injury claims fell by 92%.

It makes sense when you consider robotaxis don’t speed, or get tired, or drive drunk, or succumb to road rage, or apply their make-up in the rear-view mirror, or text and drive. At worst, they get a bit confused sometimes.

It may take time to convince everyone, but there is already plenty of consumer interest in robotaxi services. The Waymo One app has been downloaded more than 500,000 times in the US despite the service only being available in two cities. The number of passengers who feel comfortable riding in a driverless car will continue to grow.

Aside from safer streets, the incentive for cities to promote autonomous ride-hailing services is the promise of a more efficient and affordable transport network. The savings generated by eliminating drivers from ride-hailing services would be significant – a 2022 McKinsey analysis suggested that by 2030, autonomous rides could be less than half the price of current human rides.

There could also be benefits to urban congestion. If the robotaxi network works effectively, with people sharing taxis and shuttles to minimise costs, there will likely be fewer cars on the road.

While Waymo and Cruise are the current leaders in the US, there are plenty of potential new competitors lying in wait. Tesla is the most talked about potential player, as robotaxis have long been an obsession of Elon Musk. Musk has said many times that robotaxis would eventually eliminate the need for people to own cars.

Apple, which recently scaled back self-driving plans for its first electric vehicle, might still surprise the market. Or competition could come from outside the US, such as XPeng which recently had its G9 electric SUV approved for autonomous driving in China. An over-the-air software update can effectively turn a regular XPeng G9 into a fully self-diving vehicle – an important step on the road to commercialisation of robotaxis.

China is also leaning into the technology in its own cities. As of September this year, a suburb in Beijing is allowing robotaxis to operate and charge fares for driverless rides. If the first stage is successful, it is envisaged that services will be rolled out over the wider city.

How quickly the technology spreads to the rest of the world will largely depend on the public’s response in these test-case cities. If robotaxis prove to be affordable and safe, and there is an improvement in urban congestion, we expect other countries to embrace the economic and social benefits of driverless fleets.

From an investment perspective, it’s too early to say which listed entity will be the direct winner from this new mode of transport. However, the technology is intertwined with other generational themes, such as the rise of electric vehicles, artificial intelligence and urbanisation. The leaders of these trends – such as Nvidia, Tesla and BYD – are easier to identify.

Conversely, the losers from these trends will likely continue to struggle, such as legacy automakers and second-tier chipmakers. While their valuations might reflect their challenged outlooks, in our view, there is no fair price for aging technology.


*Nathan Field manages the Global Thematic strategy at KiwiSaver and Wealth provider, Generate. No part of this is intended as financial advice; it is intended as general information only. Past performance is not indicative of future performance. To see a copy of Generate’s Financial Advice or Product Disclosure Statements visit generatewelath.co.nz/disclosures. The issuer of the scheme is Generate Investment Management Limited.

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Your right, but picking the winners this early isn't easy. Remember Netscape and then came Google.

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Surely you mean Alta vista? Netscape was a browser 

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Surely he means Internet Explorer,  Google Chrome is a browser.

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Personally I prefer to stay driving for as long as I can because I actually like driving and really its good for you mentally and your coordination skills etc....unless you are stuck in Auckland traffic that is. 

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New Zealanders are generally relaxed, positive people who love to work hard, spend time with friends and family and enjoy the beautiful country they live in. New Zealanders – or Kiwis, as they're often known – balance time at work with time to relax and unwind.

This all changes when they drive cars...

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Rally drivers determined to be first, let's not forget truckies 5 inches off your rear bumper 

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So if you're involved in an accident with one of these, who does your insurance company go after? And if the car is in the wrong and a serious accident, can the police prosecute a car?

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If you are killed in a car crash caused by your brakes failing, do the police prosecute your brakes?

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I imagine the serious crash unit may do some sort of investigation as to last WOF, last service on the brakes etc if indeed that was the cause. Faulty part or sub-standard service.

Maybe that answers my question.

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In NZ, the registered owner is deemed to be the driver, unless the police are shown otherwise. 

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I agree legacy car makers are on their way out. Even just with electric cars, I would be thinking Tesla or MG or BYD over Toyota or Honda. The Chinese car brands will take everyone out except maybe Tesla and a handful of others. The older brands were way too slow to go electric. 

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My hope is some existing car makers chase a single seater sports car with a much smaller turbo ICE engine. There is going to have to be a push in alternative directions, not everyone wants an EV. Existing EV's are going to have to get a lot smaller, 2 tonnes to carry one person about most of the time is nuts.

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Agreed. If we want to electrify the fleet, then we really need a 2 tiered set of vehicles. A small, lightweight car of very modest range for city duties... shops, school runs, work and back, not built for speeds over 50kph, so much less weight, much more modest safety frame, much cheaper to buy and run.

Then more traditional builds for the highway / intercity transport. Not everybody will need this scale of car.

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> A small, lightweight car of very modest range for city duties... shops, school runs, work and back, not built for speeds over 50kph,

This already exists, it's called a bicycle, and it's much cheaper than a fullsize EV.

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MG has been around since 1920s, despite numerous ownership changes, i'd call that a legacy.

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I think light weight driverless cars are the future.  In Auckland I often saw electric trains with one or two people on them.  Those trains weigh over 100 metric tonnes and use somewhere between 1000 and 6000 kW.  In Tauranga saw yellow buses constantly driving in circles with between zero and three people on board.  Those buses weigh around 10-15 metric tonnes and consume goodness knows how much precious diesel fuel every day.  What's the marginal cost of getting a person from A to B in the above scenarios?

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I guess once it all goes driverless the cars can be tiny plastic EV bubbles. People have chosen to getting bigger and bigger SUV's over the years because they are perceived to be "Safer". I guess the "Safer" applies to other stupid drivers smashing into you but once it goes driverless the "Safety" problem gets resolved. 

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Indeed.  I have a crash investigator friend who once mentioned to me that the chance of death in a crash depends on, among other things, the centre of mass of both vehicles.  The big SUV sheers over the top of the Porsche 911, for example, decapitating the driver.  A little light-weight EV made with composite materials would be a death trap in a crash.  

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EVs don't change congestion issues.  If you get all of Aucklanders train passengers to drive, the city will grind to a halt and need $100s of billions in new road capacity.  It doesn't matter if the driver is human or a computer, it's simply a matter of space.

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And trains can be automated too. a train every 5 minutes would make public transport way more popular. And if you have a automated taxi from home to the station , really no need for a car. 

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Meh. I’ll drive my own car till I’m dead and buried. 

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You wouldn't outsource driving even if it's cheaper and safer, and allows you to read a book instead of focusing on the road?

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Hell no. I love driving. But it is almost all regional. 

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Looking forward to full driverless.  I can use the time to study or whatever.  44 years of driving so far is enough to get to the bored stage.

I still remember the first experience of driving though - an incredible rush of getting speed for free by just pushing a peddle.  I hope to God that PDK doesn't read this.

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The big issue not discussed here is the Crony Capitalism required to allow these things on our streets. Remember how Uber had to kill a few people before their autonomous driven cars were finally abandoned? The same will happen with these ones. The only way these will work is to ban driver driven cars. Which is of course being worked on one step at a time , as we watch. But a few more cycles of investors coming in too soon will be gone through before the Crony Capitalists will finally win....or not.

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When tech like this is coming down the pipe, be it 5 or 10 years away why would we invest silly amounts of money (billions and billions) in light rail in Auck for example. Seems like a great future, point to point transport for a fraction of the cost, safe and no need to hunt for a carpark. Sounds like a 10/10 solution to me compared to a bus that never turns up haha.

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Tech like this has been coming down the pipe in 5 or 10 years for 5 or 10 years.  How long to you wait?  Like the the flying robo taxi helicopters that Dubai that are just about to start taking commercial passengers in 2017.

And taxis don't solve congestion issues, some think they will make it worse because taxis have to turn around and head back to pick up a new passenger, so morning and even peaks at the same time twice a day.

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Driverless taxis could work in countries like Switzerland, Japan and China but not in most western countries. They would be vandalised within days. 

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