The coalition is pressing on with plans to increase the 'bright line' test for residential property sales to cover a five year period; law changes expected to take effect in March

Wow? Where to start? At least, you have just detailed why you have the giant chip on your shoulder, and highlight why you are incapable of the objectivity needed to make anything other than an angry, embittered point but i'll hold up my end of the bargain...

1. when I say radical centrist that rejects the left/right polarity that does not even remotely imply fluff. I am rejecting the very labels within politics that you yourself above describe (as used for nefarious purposes and diminished rights). IMO the issues thrown up by globalisation are causing much more pressing issues for societies (including farming) and would prefer the political spectrum to thrash out that issue, rather than the old left/right bluster. You're making assumption after assumption, based on zero evidence. I actually share your disdain for mindless bureaucracy, for instance. However, that is only one aspect of the housing crisis. I really don't know how you got to the position where you think you have a clue who I am or what political views I hold. All I can say is that so far, on each assumption you have made, you have been wrong.

2. I was a foster kid without family. I worked 90-100 hours a week through my teens and 20's. Put myself through university. Taught myself carpentry, brick laying, plastering etc. Worked evenings and weekends to afford a house for my kids after the GFC. Had spine surgery mid way through the renovation but still got there. No inclination whatsoever to sheer sheep but did spend a decade working in adolescent psychiatry, with some of the most horrifically abused kids you could ever imagine. Which I can assure you, was no walk in the park.

3. Co-own and run an award winning, productive business, so presumably you will stick up for me because you like business owners right? Or is it only the people who run their own business BUT also share your hyperbole and penchant for angry ranting that deserve your support? Quite how you equate those who disagree with your views as anti-business is beyond me. Many here would love NZ business to thrive, they just happen to think that swapping ever increasingly expensive houses or buying up the limited supply of houses to rent out is not good for the long term future of NZ. The business I co-run gives us a post-tax income in the top 5% of NZ earnings, even better, most of our clients are overseas, so the revenue we make comes from overseas in to the NZ economy. We're in our 30s with 2 kids, we have no debt, but we do have substantial assets and investments. But just because we are wealthy, doesn't mean we are going to throw a protectionist tantrum and pull up the ladder in regards to the social problems we foresee in NZ's future. Or make wild generalisations based on very little evidence and lay claim to that privilege because i'm an "old biddy".

4. I wasn't actually referring to you owning 7 properties, PKchew commented about owning 7 properties. My reply was to that comment, and you just happened to reply in that same thread, with mine coming under yours. Presumably as you replied to that thread, you also read PKchew's comment about the 7 properties. I have to ask, have you tried to twist the discussion to suggest that I said that to you, to justify your butthurt or just looking to vent on someone? Yvil then makes a comment about envy IN THE SAME THREAD, which I also reply to within my comment. The only section of my comment that was directed at you was;

"It's also an utter nonsense to suggest that becoming a property investor signifies no 8 mentality. You're just trolling. But not clever, amusing troll_skillz, just transparent, obvious, boring, predictable troll_yawn. 2/10"

Which I stand by. But please evidence how you know who has no 8 mentality and who doesn't? Or how being being a landlord demonstrates any such mentality.

5. The problem with your example of empathy is that you are only able to describe empathy for those who are like you, you were a farmer (or still are) so you are empathising with farmers. You want to support business, but presumably only business owners who share your rhetoric and biases. Not business owners like me, who hold a different opinion. My perspective would be that unless we can look outside of our own immediate interests and the interests of those we identify with, then we aren't being objective. Which was my point. You can't possibly know the mentality of all of NZ and are in no objective position to say who does or doesn't have a No 8 wire-can-do attitude.

6. I also disagree with you. I haven't heard any negging on business owners, tradies or farmers on here. I've read concern about farms being sold off to foreign interests, i've read concern that we don't have enough tradies, and i've heard a lot of concern about insufficient financial investment in productive business. I wouldn't ever want to lump all those groups together. They all have unique issues, and the criticism on here about landlords is pretty specific. If you weren't trolling then i'm lost as to your point so do please enlighten me.

7. Yes, property speculation, government incompetence, unbalanced tax treatment of one asset over others, perfect storm. It's been discussed ad nauseum and still no clear solutions in progress. Nothing to do with the no 8 mentality though is it? so why make that nasty snub?

8. I am your typical rags to riches success story with no8 wire mentality out the wazoo (sorry to disappoint). I just disagree with you. You say that some professions have no8 mentality and some don't . I would never put farmers, tradies or business owners in the same boat as the landlords on here, that constantly gloat about their wealth when there is a housing crisis but I would say that managing to become a landlord does not require a no8 mentality, sometimes all it requires is good timing. I could start up a property empire if I want to. However, I specifically don't want to because in the current economic climate and housing crisis, I would consider that immoral. I would prefer wealthy NZ-ers to invest in productive businesses, rather than real estate. I believe, based on an objective look at the data, that this would be better for NZ economically and socially, again that's not an idea that belongs to the left or right of politics.