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A 23-month long streak of increasing annual migration gains finally comes to an end

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A 23-month long streak of increasing annual migration gains finally comes to an end

Population growth from migration appears to be finally flattening out at just under 70,000 new residents a year.

Latest figures from Statistics NZ show there was a net gain (the number of long term arrivals minus the number of long term departures) of 6450 people in July, down very slightly form the net gain of 6525 people in June (see the interactive chart below for the long term trend).

On an annual basis migration provided 69,015 new residents in the year to July, marginally down from the 69,100 in the year to June, ending a 23 month run of record breaking annual net gains in migrants.

However the net gain of 69,015 in the year to July was still hugely up on the 59,639 gain in the year to July 2015, and the net gain of 41,043 in the year to July 2014.

The biggest source country for migrants remains India with a net gain of 11,313 people from that country in the year to July, followed by China and Hong Kong 10,851, The Philippines 4926, the UK 4384, South Africa 3222, France 3122 and Germany 3029.

In the year to July there was a net loss of 3069 New Zealand citizens to other countries, and a net gain of 72,084 citizens from other countries.

Auckland continues to be the destination of choice for migrants with 53,213, new long term arrivals indicating they intended to reside in the region, followed by Canterbury which attracted 12,631.

However there were another 21,059 new arrivals who did not indicate where they intended to live and many of them probably also settled in Auckland or Canterbury.

Classified by visa type, the biggest category of total arrivals was the 39,384 people who arrived on work visas in the year to July, up 10.8% on the previous year, followed by 36,459 Australian and New Zealand citizens (who do not need visas) up 4.3% on the previous year, 26,782 on student visas which was up just 0.3% on the previous year and 15,543 who arrived on residency visas, up 12.2% on the previous year.

In a First Impressions note on the figures, Westpac senior economist Anne Boniface said migration inflows were expected to slowly decline.

"We continue to expect annual net migration to slow over the coming years from current record levels," she said.

"Foreigners who have arrived on temporary or student visas over the past three years will start to depart.

"In addition, an improving Australian labour market is expected to once again entice New Zealanders across the Tasman.

"However this will take time, meaning annual net migration will remain at elevated levels for some time yet."

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So on an annual basis it's still rising ie 69k is greater 59k
And on a monthly basis it dropped by 100 ending the streak.

What the annual streak at the moment ? 6 years ?

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Apparently we need more high skilled shark soup chefs who don't pay tax. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=116…

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Watch the fast food stalls at Albany Mall. All cash sales.

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DP

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TP damn tablet

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I understand the motives for having migrants , GDP Growth , an increased tax base , possibly more / better productivity , but we seem to be overdoing things right now .

One of the worst unintended consequences is the massive housing crisis we now have in Auckland

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And then we scratch our heads and wonder why we have no housing for our poorer folk who find themselves crammed at a rate of 10 in a two bedroomed house in South Auckland

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All a false economy. The reality is more like inviting new participants to a Ponzi.

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And who's at the top of the pyramid!

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The increased tax-base myth - if you can nail it down
Today's Herald
Auckland Chinese restaurant owner jailed for evading $800,000 tax
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=116…

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Hopefully deported along with his elderly parents after that right?

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So he rips the tax payer off, claims family credits then we pay to have him jailed. Brilliant.

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I think policies around immigration and tax (or stamp duty) on foreign house buyers are gonna be election deciders next year.

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I predict Chong Kee will come up with some token measures near election time. Perhaps a tax on foreigners which can easily be avoided via a company or trust like Canada have done.

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Canada are taxing 15% stamp duty on companies and trusts where a beneficiary is a foreigner (offshore or temp workers or student)

That loophole has been closed.

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the pig is out of the tunnel in Vancouver...collapse in house prices...now everyone can see, like NZ, it was foreign buyers all along

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-18/vancouver-housing-market-implo…

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Yes, it's not a supply issue. It's dirty money being laundered
Changing the unitary plan to build more houses, fast, eroding environmental laws to cram more dwellings on the same patch, will make this city less liveable, not more so.
And it actually feeds the problem: more money will pour in, as the political appetite to discourage speculation is low. And so more houses will be built and then sold for record prices....
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Vancouver did the right thing - New Zealand should do the same. And not just for Auckland: make it countrywide.

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Melbourne has introduced a similar measure to British Columbia (Vancouver), I'm not sure how hole-proof theirs is. But if there's a similar collapse in Melbourne then there'll be nowhere to hide for the Nats....everyone will know

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Even staunch Key supporter Fran O'Sullivan calls for a investigation into money being laundered through real estate.
I sure hope National are starting to feel the heat.
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if they keep ignoring the issue, then we'll know for sure they don't really give a damn about the people they're supposed to be serving.
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As posted out in other threads - forcing AC to open up more land for housing, without turning off the overseas money tap, is futile.

Sorry forgot to include the link.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=116…

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Well, it was revealed that the Chinese business community had him by the balls and was giving them a twist over the flag referendum.

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Akshually at the end of the day slapping big taxes on foreign money laundering does work.

Wonder what the excuse will be this time why NZ has to keep its legs open?

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I have just came from Toronto. There is a Chinese buying spree there. It came absolutely insane in the last 8-10months in Toronto. Maybe Vancouver, Auckland and OZ became too expensive - well .... you can buy a brand new house in very good area for 2.5m on 600m2.

The same scenario of ghost houses is happening. Canadians are outbid and pressed out of the market - sounds familiar ????

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lololol, "chong kee".....classic

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Just in time for elections next year nats are slowing this down...note, work visas issued in the last year were 207,000, so this is just part of the crazy new world introduced by current govt...that they will try to fade out before elections

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Now we entered the world of competition. Why to blame government If some one living in two bedroom house with ten. People must work hard to achieve something. Lucky we still have social benefits here.

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Massive 50% drop in indian visas issued after huge visa fraud uncovered, and all we get is a tiny

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Good. We need to avoid any fraudsters coming to this beautiful country. Same time you shouldn't forget those migrants who put their tremendous efforts to develop this economy.

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Did anyone watch Nigel Latta's program on immigration?
A real estate agent said half of her office were Chinese yet she claimed only 8/49 sales were to Chinese.
When asked why we need so many migrants Professor Paul Spoonley said: Ageing. I always say “whose going to wipe your chin”.
That is a notion debunked by The Australian Productivity Commission:

And it warns that trying to slow the impact of an ageing population on the economy by bringing in young workers is only a sugar hit.
"Any effect would be short-lived," the report says. "This is because immigrants themselves age, and progressively higher levels of migration would be needed to sustain the current age structure into the future."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/immigratio…
Spoonley said :“Politicians visit and see the positive things happening, but they don't want to say too loudly for fear of upsetting their constituents. Immigration is having a very beneficial effect.
and lastly an immigration agent stated: "We are incredibly selective. All those migrants should have a medal on their chest."

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Speaking of fraud:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/83235642/dairy-worker-visa-frauds…

More than a third of Filipino dairy workers here on fraudulent grounds? That's a huge number.

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"In addition, an improving Australian labour market is expected to once again entice New Zealanders across the Tasman." Yet New Zealanders are complaining about immigration when 40,000-50,000 New Zealanders moved to Australia annually over the last 15 years.

The Australian economy isn't going to improve in my opinion if it was going to improve then the RBA wouldn't be cutting interest rates to record lows. The U.S. federal reserve kept cutting interest rates until the GFC in 2008.

The Australian economy & banks getting negative outlooks from major ratings agencies.

15% of the total NZ population or 650,000 New Zealanders live in Australia so we have enough New Zealanders over here in Australia. About time more New Zealanders moved back home to New Zealand.

The NZ unemployment rate (5.1%) is also much better than the Australian unemployment rate (5.7%).

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One small note about the stats ... it is interesting that only about 10850 combined chinese have entered the country last year .... everyone is blaming them for the boom in house prices, maybe so .. but the other 40,000 odd combined ex pat kiwis, Aussies, German, French, UK and the like migrant can, and certainly did, buy houses in the last year .. I don't think many Indians or SA.s have that buying power , However.... my point is .. It is not only the Asians (they were only 15%) who have contributed in inflating the market, hence closing the door on China could not be the issue here, we have to explain that to our German, UK and Aus immigrants too - or are we going to exclude our cousins across the ditch? --- looks like the stamp duty is going to be a tricky one!!

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Gosh, a voice of reason! Nah, it's always the Chinese and only the Chinese that drives up prices. Who else could it be? Surely not that Kiwi investor sitting on equity who has heard of stories about mythical Chinese investors using cash in suitcases and buying up everything in sight or that Kiwi who has just moved back after a high paying stint overseas?

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Have you looked at the LINZ statistics for buyers and sellers? The Chinese are accumulating 4 houses for every house they sell while other nationalities tend to buy and sell in roughly equal amounts.

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Eco bird you are conveniently excluding temp visa workers and students in the 10,000 figure you are quoting. How many temp workers how many students. Add those two to the total migrants and you get your grand total.

Remember per LINZ students + temp workers made up THIRTY TWO % of the resident buyers. They bought 13,500 homes which equates to approx 13BILLION dollars worth.

These should be classified as foreign buyers as has been done in Canada, Australia and Singapore.

The 32% is likely to be higher as it doesn't include trust and companies with foreign student or temp workers as beneficiaries.

Time to dispel the myths created by nz media and govt. Foreign buyers are a huge factor in the NZ housing market. The number one factor.

Total temp visa workers is 200k
"The 200,000 people issued temporary work visas in the year ending June is the highest ever annual figure."
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/311052/key-ignoring-immigration…

The total foreign students is 93k:
The number of international students increased by 12 per cent to a five-year high of 93,137 in the January to August period last year compared to the same time in 2013, having declined by more than 6 per cent between 2011 and 2013.
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11391…

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So 70k Migrants + 200k temp work visa + 90k foreign students

The migrants have every right to buy a home in NZ however the 290k temp visa and students should be forced to pay a 15% stamp duty when buying existing homes like vancouver has done.

There were 33k chinese students
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/309485/over-33,000-chinese-stude…

Immigration New Zealand figures showed it approved 33,425 visa applications from Chinese students in the 12 months to the end of June.

Foreign buyers are pushing up NZ house prices AND Chinese form a large part of that group as they do in other countries. Fine let them buy however ALL foreign buyers whether Chinese,American or British should pay 15% stamp duty on existing home purchases.

Benefits
- encourage new supply
- help fund the new infrastructure NZ needs
- is allowed under FTA
- gives citizens and permanent residents a chance to get on the ladder.
- reduces house demand and prices (see vancouver)
- 230bn household debt needs to be contained

Without the foreign buyers there will be less speculation by mums and pops investors In nz.

perhaps this is nz version of TOO BIG TO FAIL. Foreigners buyers are proping up the economy and the large student numbers are driven off not quality education but the fact it is a way to buy property in NZ having someone on the ground.

How many nz media articles have yoy seen investigating how many students and temp visa buyers are out there. How many articles in nz media on bringing in a stamp duty?
Very few if any. Vested interests it's actually sad companies/people sell out so easily.

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Fine, But I would be careful of making Vancouver as an example - there are huge differences- and I would stay away from exaggerating assumptions ..etc.

I am not excluding anyone, I was just commenting on the figures in the stat above .. I do not have an issue with applying 15% stamp duty at all, I just noted that it will be tricky to apply ...there are some "niceties" to be observed as you might well know.

I also commented that the Chinese immigrants out of the stats above were only 15% or the total and my point was NOT to only blame the chinese for that - there are others who are capable of buying homes.

It seems that the "Asians" made the majority of bidders and buyers present in Auction houses I
I have been to in the last 18 months, but there were lots of others too ... but it also depends on the area ...

BTW, mixing too many stats and numbers together is misleading because non of us really knows what the actual numbers are - but we will in about a year's time when LINZ and others get their numbers together and conduct proper surveys ... You have noticed that the Real Estate companies are keeping it under raps after the last blunder .. but they are the ones who have the actual numbers, but I guess that is politically sensitive at the moment ( either way).

Until then everyone is floundering with these numbers and I am not yet convinced that we have real credible data.

I want to make another point here, IF the 13500 houses bought by students @ $1M average each = $13.5B were available right now on the market ..who was going to buy them??? Certainly not the FHBs nor anyone looking for " Affordable" housing, .... if people would like to buy houses at these prices then great... there are heaps of them around and now is a good time to buy ... so I cannot understand why people are crying over houses they couldn't afford to buy in the first place!!. Some might argue that should they were not bought by the students they would have now been at 900k, or even 850k ... great, again there are tons of these around in new and old !!
There are heaps of nice apartments off the plans in 2 and 3 bdrms on the North Shore for 600 - 700k and they have been advertised for a long time now - still unsold....and I know there will be ton to come out next year -
In 18-24 months this saga will become history when the new build starts flooding the market again ... and no one will mention chinese again other than for their bad driving !!

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Without the foreign and non resident buyers the ponzi scheme grinds to a halt.
The mum and dad investors along with foreign investors will all race for the back door.
Prices will drop and their will be many tears.
When the dust settles the real investors who have been ditching their bad investments on the current market will get active again.
Its called the property cycle. Its all about timing, the current property market is driven be emotion and greed. Think back to the GFC folks. All those coastal sections that had been all the rage became almost worthless.
This time it will be negatively geared overpriced rentals.

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The houses are 1 million average in Auckland BECAUSE 13,500 buyers are temp visa & foreign students.
ie if they were not buying the average prices would not be 1million.

The LINZ data was fairly conclusive it is just the media & govt agencies (LINZ) that are making out that it is not.

Ask yourself a question why would NZ be any different from Canada or Australia in terms of student and temp worker foreign buyers buying a large amount of properties?

http://www.linz.govt.nz/land/land-registration/prepare-and-submit-your-…

open this file on that page (attachments area bottom of the page) :
Property transfers and tax residency report: 1 April – 30 June 2016PDF | 1.09 MB

Scroll to Page 12 and see the box
Q2.2* Work or student visa and intend to occupy
8751 (21%) Yes
4707 (11%) No

Add those two numbers together and you get 13.5k

Of the 41.6k sold to tax residents, 13.5k were to temp workers and students. This is the 32% of resident buyers I am quoting.

If someone is smart enough to buy a house they are smart enough to be able to tick N/A in the LINZ form if they are not students or temp workers. At a guess lawyers probably help fill this in.

I think its is just National PR spin
- trying to downplay the foreign buyer data so they don't need to change the rules
- so they don't have a housing correction before the general election.
- same way they don't classify students and temp workers as foreign buyers unlike Canada and Australia

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Bang on and though it reads like it, it is actually not rocket surgery (or brain science) to come to the same conclusion. Let's just say that I believe without foreign money that doesn't really give a toss how much it has to spend own freehold property, prices would absolutely reflect the buying power held by the citizenry of this country. End. Of. Story.

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Thank you for that Joe...

It says in black and white that some NZ residents have answered yes too because of confusion :

" Improvement is still needed to the guidance we provide for question 2.2. This asks
whether those on a work or student visa intend to occupy a property. However, analysis
has shown that New Zealand residents have responded with ‘yes’ or ‘no’. We will improve
the guidance to make it clearer that New Zealand residents should respond with ‘not
applicable’ to this question "

Sooo, how can we assume it was $13.5B ?? ... where did that number come from? I would like to know if possible ... I could assume that most students have bought apartments in the city worth 300-500k each ( maybe 400K average) why assume it was all million $$ mansions ?

I did say in my comments that should they have not bought in the last 6 months this year then prices COULD have been 10 or even 15% lower but there are lots at that price now... so where are the buyers? some might like to assume that these prices would have fallen to 500 or 600K ... there isn't such a thing!! prices did not increase by 50% in 6 months!!

http://www.crockers.co.nz/media/120753/july%202016%20sales%20table.pdf

Let us not underestimate mum and pop motives and capabilities .. or insult their intelligence .. it is unfair to let people believe that they follow herd mentality in buying houses for investment because everyone else is doing so ... they know very well what they are doing and why !! so do most New investors with high income jobs and extra cash coming through every month or the ex pats returning home. Yes they have found encouragement due to increased demand , BUT with interest rates going down consistently in the last two years and nowhere else to park your money , buying a house or two was a no brainer !!

As I said let's wait a bit for some good numbers instead of repeating the same mistakes as the MSM does on flying stuff that might not be accurate.

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Like I said if "someone is smart enough to buy a house they are likely smart enough to fill in that form."

I don't buy what LINZ has put there (as an explanation as to why the figure is high) and until someone proves otherwise we need to take the answers as filled in on the form.

THE BURDEN ON PROOF IS ON LINZ TO PROVE THOSE FIGURES ARE INCORRECT. We need to take the figures as accurate until proved otherwise. Even if this does not suit the Government's Agenda.
Burden of Proof (Google)
"we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning."

The evidence is

http://www.linz.govt.nz/land/land-registration/prepare-and-submit-your-d...
open this file on that page (attachments area bottom of the page) :
Property transfers and tax residency report: 1 April – 30 June 2016PDF | 1.09 MB

Scroll to Page 12 and see the box
Q2.2* Work or student visa and intend to occupy
8751 (21%) Yes
4707 (11%) No

13,500 people ticked the Occupy Yes & No boxes relating to Q2.2* Work or student visa and intend to occupy

Also 1million doesn't buy a mansion in Auckland.

The 13billion is an approximation based on average price (no reason to use lower or upper quartile)
12.5k houses * Auckland Average = 13billion approx.

End of the day the students are backed by
1. parents wealthy enough to send their children to NZ
2. with enough money to buy a property in NZ. Remember a villa in Auckland gets you a 3 bed apartment in Shanghai.
These students are not borrowing the money based on their NZ incomes are they ?

Anyone that thinks somehow NZ is somehow any different to Australia or Canada needs stop being so naïve.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=114…
"New Zealand is the second-cheapest country in the world for Chinese property shoppers but also one of the most popular, according to information gathered from a Chinese real estate site."

Student buyers are an issue in Vancouver hence the stamp duty and LINZ has shown us students and temp workers are a problem in NZ.

No amount of squirming, wriggling, flipping and twisting by the National Government, Media or LINZ is going to change that.

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here's a good article on mainland Chinese and their effect on the Vancouver market

The Highest Bidder
How foreign investors are squeezing out Vancouver’s middle class
https://thewalrus.ca/the-highest-bidder/

What is galling is the complicity of the government and real estate industry (and the usual cries of racism)

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Migration is welcome it just has to be of quality. Auckland again this week has been nominated one of the top 10 places to live in the world(I know many will beg to differ) and I have no doubt people will continue to want to emigrate to NZ. What is worrying is the Govt projections are for immigration to fall to 12000 per annum in 2019....if that is all they are budgeting for then I am worried. The reason Auckland was not higher than 8th was that it got a bad score(rightly so) for infrastructure.

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Vancouver shows us exactly where NZ is heading if foreign buyer demand is not reined in.

Vancouver's average house price was 1.6m CAD which was a rise of 32% from the previous year.

This is where Auckland is heading if a STAMP DUTY of 15% is not applied to foreign buyers and we don't classify foreign buyers correctly.

Foreign buyers include
- some of the 200,000 temp visa workers
- some of the 96,000 foreign students

The exact number last year was 13,500 houses which is 250 a week. This is huge when supply is so limited.

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Migration is welcome
I think a whole lot of assumptions need revisiting. The last few paragraphs of this paint a distopian future

“It’s sad to see the passing of old Vancouver,” says St. John. But at the same time, he argues, it’s short-sighted to ignore the fact that BC reaps huge benefits from the money being dumped into the province by mainland investors. They are giving boomers a windfall they could never have imagined—a windfall that’s then passed along to their kids and put back into the economy.
“It just means your economy won’t be doing what you thought it would be doing,” St. John continues. “Now it’s a financial-services and retirement-support and construction economy, and I think that’s okay. I think we should recognize that’s a natural transformation, driven by immigration and the fact that our corner of the planet is a beautiful, stable place with very little corruption.”
But according to Yan, the intergenerational transference of equity is an illusion. Parents are giving their kids a down payment on an overpriced house, which means a massive mortgage that may never get paid off. “One generation has scored—they are the victors in this game. But they’ve shackled their kids and their grandchildren to an albatross of debt.”
And what happens twenty or thirty years from now, when the last boomer cashes out? When huge pockets of the city and the region are controlled by wealth generated in another country? When there is no financial district, there is little manufacturing, and there are no industries other than those that cater to rich people?
Stripped of civic culture, the city becomes a seaside resort ossified by wealth. Few historic buildings remain. The east side is densely packed, having been carved up into blisteringly expensive duplexes, laneway houses, and granny suites. The west side is effectively a gated community. The downtown has been overtaken by multi-million-dollar condos in skyscrapers, high-end chain stores, and luxury car dealerships. With so few mom-and-pop businesses, pubs, or cafés, the core is dead at night—the streets, empty wind tunnels.
In this dystopia, nobody talks about the crazy house prices anymore. Vancouver isn’t even on the radar of the average wage earner. The middle class has been hollowed out. With nowhere else to go, the city’s citizenry has pushed inland, filling up acreage in the east and to the south. Residents in need of space—elderly boomers, immigrants, young families—have settled in formerly pastoral areas of Surrey, Langley, and Chilliwack and now live in massive townhouse developments. The bulk of the population has grown around bustling transit hubs such as Surrey City Centre, Coquitlam Centre, and Burnaby’s Brentwood and Metrotown. They are the new glass-tower cities, the new urban cores.
As for Vancouver, there is not much reason to go there—unless you work in the service industry, or you go to ubc, or you have guests in town. It’s a knock-off Monaco, where you drop by to enjoy the view.

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Corin Dann interviews JK at national party conference
Corrin Dann
you don't want to get immigration down , to fall though, do you. I just got to say something. I saw you in a speech after the budget and you were in a big room of business people, now some of those were the biggest business minds of the country and you stood up and said: “don't worry about treasuries figure the estimation that it will go back to 12000, you were confident the figure was going to be a lot higher than that.

JK
I just think it is likely to be higher than that

Corrin Dann
But it's like telling them you wanted immigration to be up. You were telling them “ don't worry the demand will be there, the economies going to stay there, that's what's keeping New Zealand affloat

JK
No, what I like about the fact that migration is strong is that I think that it reflects both returning Kiwis and that it shows they have confidence in New Zealand and that we have an open economy, but personally I think New zealand is a much more successful country/ for that.

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Seeing is believing. Vancouver really was an extreme case. It was/is many times worse than Auckland. Over there the legal system has no recourse to not reporting money laundering which just made it the capital of laundered money.

Thankfully, and not before time, I think the amount of shonkey money coming over here has dropped a lot over past 10 months

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Shonky money is not the only problem.

The problem is ALL FOREIGN BUYERS as locals are squeezed out of the property market as prices grow to absurd levels like what we see in Auckland today.

Auckland is no different that Vancouver. Maybe we are just 2/3 years away from where Vancouver is when our houses will be 1.3-1.5m NZD a house.

Let these foreign buyer buy New builds to encourage supply. Leave the existing houses for NZ Citizens & Permanent residents. If Foreign buyers want to buy existing homes well let them pay 15% ie 150k on teh average Auckland house for the privilege. Use that money to pay for the new schools, trains etc the city will need.

Foreign Buyers = Off shore + Students + Temp Visa

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The proposition requiring Foreign Buyers to buy "new builds" only has been going the rounds here for years .. so nothing new .. it's too simple .. too obvious .. its the rule in AU .. but, the ratbags still spend most of their time getting around the rules .. can't help themselves .. they don't want to do the build

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Fran O'Sullivan is correct instead of paying attention to the content of whistleblower ( if can say so) so many experts are shooting the messengers

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=11697…

Why shooting the messenger for is 100% truth and Truth hurts.

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A friend of mine works for a private tertiary education institution that caters to mainly foreign students. It is staffed by almost all Indian recent migrants who are paid next to nothing even though they are skilled (many having masters degrees or PhD).

Some of the employees are expected to work many more hours a week unpaid providing domestic duties to the boss, such as shopping, laundry etc, and happily carry this out as the are promised that they will be sponsered by the company for residency. Some of the employees have already lost their job because they were involved in fraudulent activities approving students who lacked the requirement for a student visa, however, they only lost their jobs after immigration started asking questions.

My friend has asked the staff if this is common in the industry and they have said it is the same in every school they have worked in. Pay rates in this industry have plummeted in recent years. You cannot tell me that immigration is not driving down wages and working conditions in this country

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John Key's Message to new immigrants: ''You're welcome but please bring a tent"

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